The Alternative South

Editor’s Note: This is the full text of my address to the 2017 Atlanta Forum.

Southern Nationalism is facing a crisis.

The crisis began around late 2014 when a year and a half of public rallies by the League of the South had begun to take its toll. We had spent the previous two years building up an amazing real world network of activists across the South. There was nothing else like it on the American Far Right. We were holding monthly rallies, annual national conferences, state conferences, private events, etc.

Believe me, it was FUN taking it into the real world after spending a decade or more camped out in the anonymity of cyberspace. We learned that our enemies in Dixie were not as organized as we had imagined them to be. We learned that doxxing is not as problematic here as it is elsewhere. We learned that various issues like opposition to immigration and refugee resettlement were broadly popular in our region. In hindsight, I think you could say that we saw the Trump movement coming.

Somewhere along the way, we began attracting women to our movement. It is striking how most of us are married and have young children now. We can’t do the public activism like we used to anymore because our responsibilities have multiplied. If you look at the Far Right as a whole, it is not a problem we should complain about. Whereas White Nationalists have argued about the lack of women in the movement, our wives spend enormous amounts of time talking and networking on Facebook. Women seem to really enjoy the social aspect of our movement that you can’t get by interacting exclusively with anonymous people online. We don’t go to immigration rallies now so much as weddings and baby showers.

Anyway, I look back fondly on 2013 and 2014. I got married, had a son and met lots of great people who share my views all across the South. That was FUN. That was VALUABLE. That was a GOOD INVESTMENT. We needed an institution that would enable us to propagate our views, coordinate our energies, build real world networks, challenge the status quo in public space and overcome the well known weaknesses (i.e., the autism and extremism) of a purely online movement.

At the same time, we eventually came to see the limitations of this approach. It was easy for the opposition to violate our civil rights and knock down billboards which were very expensive to put up. It was impossible to keep up the pace of the rallies – too expensive, too much traveling, we hit a ceiling, etc. More than anything else though, the constant bickering on Facebook over small points of disagreement and the willingness of some to tread into violent territory which made others uncomfortable began to fracture the movement. What’s the point of spending so much time recruiting ordinary people at public rallies only to squander it by alienating them with extremism on social media?

During the first half of 2015, the pace of our public rallies began to slow down. Several leaders including Michael Cushman dropped out of the League of the South. That was the case until the Dylann Roof mass shooting in Charleston ignited a campaign of cultural genocide across the South. We lost the Confederate Battle Flag at the South Carolina Statehouse. The Southern Heritage movement and the League were briefly reenergized. We held more rallies than ever before, but eventually the news cycle rolled on, the enemy was repulsed, enthusiasm faded and burn out returned as a major problem.

In the midst of the reaction to Charleston, Donald Trump announced he was running for president on June 16, 2015. Everything was about to change. The inconceivable started to happen.

Donald Trump Changes America

Southern Nationalists weren’t prepared for Donald Trump.

We are so accustomed to thinking regionally, but the anger and alienation that we saw at our protests in the South was national in scope. It was even global. No one was even trying to summon all that anger and alienation and channel it against the liberal establishment.

How should we feel about this? We have been too narrowly focused on the Confederacy. We never entertained the possibility of a successful nationalist and populist revolt in our lifetimes, another Andrew Jackson, put into the White House by a MARS coalition led by the South. The Populists had mounted a fierce challenge in the 1890s and even briefly captured the Democratic Party, but they were beaten back. We have just witnessed the most improbable election since Jackson’s victory in 1828.

In light of our own history, we shouldn’t be surprised. It actually makes sense. Radical Reconstruction changed the nature of our people. Previously, the South had been much less coherent, which was one the major reasons we lost the War Between the States, but living under the boot of radicalism changed America. The differences between the lowland and upland South faded into the Solid South of the Jim Crow era. White Northerners lost interest in pushing Radical Reconstruction. The Yankee mind of the late 19th and early 20th centuries turned instead to imperialism and commercial progress.

As hard as it is to believe, eight years of living under President Barack Hussein Obama may have had a similar effect. The experiment seems to have cooled the enthusiasm of non-Southerners for ‘social justice’. Maybe it was all the Black Lives Matter rioting in the streets? Whatever the cause, a critical mass of White Northerners in rural areas started voting a lot more like rural White Southerners and changed the world. The racial and cultural gap between coastal urbanites and interior ruralites has widened to such a degree that it has become the primary polarity of American politics.

I’ve occasionally written about this over the years. We have seen Upper South states like Arkansas, Missouri, Kentucky and West Virginia become much more Republican. The same process has now moved across the Mason-Dixon line and into the Rust Belt and Midwest. The Left has demonized and written off the White working class. President Donald Trump is the result.

Living Through History

When Donald Trump began to steamroll over his Republican rivals during the “Summer of Trump,” I dropped everything else I was doing and started blogging about it. I sensed that something historic was unfolding in this country. I wanted to capture it and be a part of it.

This was not because I had changed my convictions. As always, I remain a proud Southern Nationalist, but there were a lot of exciting developments going on outside the movement. Suddenly, the Alt-Right was rising like a sleeping giant that had awakened after a long slumber. I found this extremely fascinating because I had come to Southern Nationalism from the world of the Alt-Right in 2011. The Alt-Right’s focus on identity raised awareness of my Southern ethnic and cultural identity.

Unlike other Southern Nationalists, I backed Trump to the end, voted for Trump in the primary and general election and preferred a Trump victory. I was delighted when he won the presidency. In my view, Trump was weakening mainstream conservatism, undermining taboos, polarizing the electorate and mainstreaming a diluted form of populism and nationalism. He was having an impact like Pat Buchanan or Ron Paul, but on a vastly greater scale. Just from experience alone, I knew it would redound to our benefit. I saw Trumpism as a necessary stepping stone on a much longer journey.

The Tea Party was another stepping stone. It looks like nothing more than silly mainstream conservatism in hindsight, but it too was part of a long term process. The populist wing of the Tea Party moved to Breitbart and eventually pushed the Right in a more nationalist direction. We need to be more historically conscious because one day President Trump will be gone, we will still be here, and something else probably even more radical will emerge as the successor of Trumpism.

As with Jacksonian America, this moment too will pass sooner than we think. It is an episode, not the season finale. We’ve got to remain historically aware and take a longer view.

The Rise of the Alt-Right

2015 and 2016 were breakout years for the Alt-Right.

Southern Nationalists have a lot to learn from why and how this happened. The Alt-Right aggressively pushed itself into the national conversation and by doing so reaped a windfall of publicity and converts. Southern Nationalists were consumed by bickering on Facebook. The Alt-Right was pragmatic, worked within the system to promote its own ends, and rallied behind President Donald Trump. Southern Nationalists, who are convinced the system is hopelessly beyond reform and that they should have nothing do with it, were ideologically inflexible and sat on the sidelines.

The Alt-Right through its links to Gamergate and the Manosphere grasped the importance of memes, swarming social media, particularly Twitter, to discourse poison or push a Narrative. The Alt-Right moved and planted its flag on Twitter and learned how to roll with the news cycle. In contrast, Southern Nationalists retreated further into their own bubble and away from their audience. Southern Nationalists were becoming more militant, more open to violence, more alienated and thus more divided during this same period. The Alt-Right understood the appeal of being edgy, having fun, and smashing taboos to a younger audience. Southern Nationalists were becoming more dour, pessimistic, and angry. Overall, they were in a really sour mood and that had a negative impact on the movement.

For the Alt-Right, the most striking development of 2016 was the rise of the Alt-Lite brands. I’ve been extremely critical of these brands many of whom I believe are financially motivated hucksters, but they are not without their virtues. We can still learn a lot from their success. First and foremost, there is Breitbart which transformed the Right and the entire American political spectrum. There are also brands like PJW and Cernovich who amassed huge followings by skillfully exploiting social media to reach new audiences. There is a lot here we ought to study and adapt for our own purposes.

The Alt-South

Southern Nationalism has become a bit unglued.

We haven’t adapted to the Trump era. The movement is being pulled in different directions: some want to move closer to our people, as they have moved toward us under Trump, while others want to move further away. I’m here today to share with you a vision which I have named the Alternative South. This is actually a project which I have talked about with Michael Cushman many times over the years which never came to fruition. Strangely enough, we unconsciously began working on it years ago.

The Alt-South isn’t a membership organization. It is inspired by the relationship of White Nationalism to the Alt-Right. Basically, the Alt-South would be a space for everyone in Dixie who isn’t some kind of leftist or mainstream conservative (i.e., nationalists, populists, reactionaries) to come together to discuss our past, present and common future. Southern Nationalists would be at the core of the Alt-South. The Atlanta Forum could become our annual gathering similar to the role the NPI conference plays with the Alt-Right. Instead of narrowing our influence and alienating people who are somewhat sympathetic, the idea here would be to reach out to all kinds of different rightwing tendencies as well as average Trump supporters and imbue them with a renewed sense of Southern national consciousness.

The Alt-South would be a TON of work:

– From our experience with the League of the South, we would love to continue the real world meetups, networking and conferences. There is no reason why these meetups or conferences have to be public. We don’t have to host public demonstrations to take our movement offline. In fact, it would probably make more sense to host several private gatherings in major Southern metro areas to get the movement started. We’ve already tested a model of this at the Augusta meetup.

– There’s no reason why we couldn’t host public events like the Amren conference. James Edwards has suggested to me organizing another conference like the one in Memphis in 2014. I’m sure there are plenty of people who would love for us to do that who would volunteer to provide the security.

– Many of us have already gone public with our beliefs. There is no reason why we couldn’t continue the demonstrations at a far slower pace. They were a useful entry point into Southern Nationalism. We have to learn from our mistakes though and avoid burnout. We’re also living in a different era with the Trump administration in Washington being broadly sympathetic to many of our issues. Instead of holding our own protests, maybe we could engage in some counterprotesting for a change?

– There is no reason why we can’t continue to publish deconstructionist e-books. I have in mind here Michael Cushman’s Our Southern Nation and Paul Kersey’s The Truth About Selma. We need more books in this vein about a variety of subjects. I highly recommend both of these books. You can find and purchase them through the OD sidebar. We need to build our own canon and make it available to newcomers.

This probably sounds familiar to you. It is what we have been doing for a number of years now. How would the Alt-South be any different from Southern Nationalism?

– Specifically, we need to borrow the meme warfare and swarming from the Alt-Right. I was shocked by the efficacy of trolling in 2016. Sadly, the golden age of Twitter trolling is over, but we can still manage without the aggression, the targeting and the hard edge racial language that gets our social media accounts banned. The #DraftOurDaughters campaign is one example that was very effective.

– From the Alt-Lite brands, there are many lessons to be learned. We need to look at Breitbart as a model of what we should be doing. We need to pool our resources, organize as our own company, generate enormous amounts of content and roll with the news cycle on Twitter. We need elbow our way into the national conversation. That’s what we are attempting to do right now with AltRight.com

– We need to get into punditry, build platforms and learn how to monetize our content. We need to build more attractive websites to propagate a discourse about Southern ethnic and cultural identity.

– Perhaps the most important thing we need to be doing is mastering and building up our presence on social media platforms: Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and Periscope. The Rebel Yell podcast is a great example of the content we ought to be producing. Ideally, we would have the means to distribute our content (blogs, podcasts, e-books) to large receptive audiences. The Alt-Lite brands now have the power to do this with a few tweets. That’s worth thinking about.

– We need to be far more ambitious and serious about our writing and podcasting. The success of BREXIT and President Trump should inspire us to believe that the future we want to achieve is possible.

– We need to be looking for nationalist and populist candidates in state and local races – the Southern equivalents of Paul Nehlen – that we can rally behind and support.

In such a way, we will blend the Alt-Right and Southern Nationalism into the Alt-South. We will take the strengths from both and try to minimize the weaknesses.

Occidental Dissent Will Be A Model

Just watch what I am doing at Occidental Dissent.

I’m already in the process of implementing everything I have said here and more. I haven’t spelled it out, but many of you have no doubt noticed the recent changes. I’m confident that Occidental Dissent as a platform of the Alt-South will explode and reach never before seen heights.

Southern Nationalism will thrive during the Trump years as we organize and build bridges with Dixie’s Deplorables. Things are not nearly as bad as so many believe. Southerners aren’t going back to sleep. They’re edged much closer to our way of thinking. The polarization is going to reach never before seen heights as The Resistance begins in earnest. We will live through this, prosper, and come out on the other side like our Southern Nationalist forebearers in Jackson and Polk’s America.

This is not yet our time, but we are closer to it than ever before. Thank you! Deo Vindice!

Note: Let there be no confusion on the matter of security. The recent events by the so-called antifa in Washington, DC and Atlanta continue to illustrate why a security force is necessary. The Left’s open embrace of political violence also makes me wonder if this will all end in bloodshed after all. They are the ones initiating violence and systematically attempting to violate the rights of their political opponents. We’re not the ones doing this and the Trump administration needs to come down hard on them.

Also, I’m extremely happy with what I have seen from the Trump administration so far. I think President Trump has the potential to be another Andrew Jackson. I think he is doing a lot of good things, but like Presidents Jackson and Polk, I am not sure what that will lead to 20 years from now. As with Jackson and Polk, the Northeast has never been known for supporting American Greatness.

51 Comments

  1. An amazing article. You sir are one of the great minds of the South. Your place in history will be guaranteed. We Southerners are fortunate to have you at the forefront.

  2. We are in a moment where events can get away from us. This is why Partition was and is the moral choice; once things get out of hand, there’s no putting Humpty back together again. At least with Partition, we can rationally separate and have maximum comity on the other side.

    I want to be on the record in favor of Trump never ceding power by election, this is a fight to the death.

    • A couple of action items:

      1) The most important thing otherwise unemployed right wing men can do is get jobs in the Deep State; Trump et al should be looking to stack the deck with our people for the Main Event.

      2) Now would be the perfect time to get out there and shore up Trump with mainstream Republicans by making phone calls, going to events etc. The fight over visa restrictions is the whole enchilada in miniature.

    • If Trump proves to be as good as his start over the next months i say we crown him….and makes his family royals and start from there….who needs to risk our futures any longer for a democracy that is so deeply flawed.

  3. While Alt Right plays with frog memes, Jews control the mass media, and this is what they spread to White America.

    The question that should really trouble white Americans is “Are Americans interracist?”

    Show is called BALLERS. Double meaning. Those who play the ball get to ball the chicks. As blacks dominate sports, they ball the white chicks whose wombs produce black babies who grow up to be enemies of white race.

    The problem isn’t that America is ‘racist’. The problem is America isn’t race-ist enough to defend and save the white race. White women grow up with jungle fever, and white males are reduced to cuck-agents.

    And interracism isn’t about equality. It is about white women dumping white males as cuck-losers and going with tougher Negroes. Interracism says white women should go with black men as the racial superiors of white men. And as American culture is spread globally to EU as well, European women come under the same jungle fever rap interracist influence at a time when millions of black African men are colonizing the continent. They will soon colonize white wombs to produce black babies while white babies are no longer hatched from those white wombs that evolved for 10,000s of yrs. 10,000s of evolution that produced the white race will be undone in a few decades as black men colonize white wombs of jungle-fever-beavers while white boys worship Mandela and MLK to redeem their ‘white guilt’ that’s been injected into the minds by Jews.

    The future is about the Closing of the White Womb to white seed and about white wombs producing the enemies of the white race like Colin Kaepernick.

    A race war is really a sex war, a womb war. White Race cannot go on with white women having kids with white men. This is why Jews wage this Race War by turning white women onto Negro men. If white wombs go black, then white men cannot go on.

    This is why THE SEARCHERS is a crucial movie about racial survival. Lose the womb, lose the war, lose the race.

    =================————-

  4. “As with Jackson and Polk, the Northeast has never been known for supporting American Greatness.”

    Nice try. American Greatness and the Northeast are synonymous.

    • The Northeast opposed the Louisiana Purchase, Indian Removal, the Mexican War, and the Gadsden Purchase before successfully blocking the acquisition of Cuba, Baja California and Sonora. It has always been a negative force within the country.

          • I think what is interesting in this strand of conversation is to notice the disparity of view on what constitutes ‘America’

            I know from 3D experience that John’s attitudes are extremely common in The North.

            I’ve heard them so many times, I could regurgitate them in my sleep.

            Where do we go from here?

            I’ll leave that to your brilliant noodle, Mr. Griffin – but, one thing I’ll say – we, Southern Nationalists, must always take into careful consideration that there are tens of millions of White Northern Supremacists, and that their attitudes will continue to bear upon our existence – secession or not.

    • “Nice try. American Greatness and the Northeast are synonymous.”

      I’d say, from observation, that this sentiment is real, but it’s also believed in the north central states, as well. Places like Illinois, Iowa and Minnesota, Michigan, etc.

      I think, subconsciously, for a lot of folks there, America® scarcely exists south of the Ohio river, or beyond the western borders of Minnesota, Iowa and Illinois. Those beyond places never even enter their minds, much. Most people in “flyover country” don’t notice it. This accounts for much of the ineptness of contemporary Southern politicians. They assume an American universalness that their opponents do not. They assume a system where they matter, when they don’t.

      • James—a few months ago, you were telling me just the opposite: that you never even saw an American flag when you were growing up; that the North seemed to you a foreign country, like Canada. Now, you’re suggesting the opposite, that the naïve little South mistakenly thinks it’s part of the American club.

        For me personally, all of the states always mattered—until I started visiting Occidental Dissent. Not long ago, in fact, someone at this very website remarked unfavorably on my having discovered only very late in life that the South is different from the rest of the country. I learned that here.

        • the naïve little South
          mistakenly thinks it’s part of the American club.

          The Cuckservative political class certainly do. Most average people don’t bother to vote. I’ve asked friends and coworkers if they’re voting and got an angry ” hell no!” But old folks keep voting for Ralph Hall from Rockwall because they like his campaign slogan; “Ralph Hall From Rockwall’. Same one he’s used for forty years. That’s his whole platform, too, plus a vague promise to work hard and promote traditional values. Which is nearly every other candidate’s promise as well.

  5. Excellent analysis.

    Personally I think AltRight.com would be better off as an link/content aggregator of everyone from Cernovich to Anglin (which I think was Ricky Vaughn’s plan).

    The Alt-Right populist sites would have different brands and be linked via the aggregator.

    Imo the break between Alt-Right and Alt-Lite was unnecessary. Cernovich had links to Fox and Flynn. How edgy do you expect him to be?

  6. At least this guy has the sense to say “so-called” antifa. To do otherwise, as Richard Spencer does, is to cede important ground to our enemies. Don’t use their language, don’t let them police yours, and don’t play their games.

  7. I think there ought to be and alternative organisation to the LOS. It seems to me, to be stagnant in and of itself. It hasn’t got as far as the TNM. The younger, dynamic and active folks could move on. LOS seems old hat, as far as the name goes.

  8. Southern Alternative. As a meme and organisation name. Southern independence is the alternative to the same old Union and same old politics.

  9. “We need to be looking for nationalist and populist candidates in state and local races – the Southern equivalents of Paul Nehlen – that we can rally behind and support.”

    We have to have a party, a concrete ideology and a platform, first.

    • There’s far more anti-Southern sentiment in America than most folks realize.

      Even many White Nationalists will get angry if you tell them you support Southern ethnic nationalism. To them, the idea that anyone would want to leave the White American melting pot is incomprehensible.

        • Like you, I’ve seen it there, too, Mr. Owen, but, I’ve seen much more of it, live in technicolour, up North.

      • I think it’s the other way around. In my experience it’s southern nationalists who insinuate themselves into WN, present themselves as WNs and claim to speak in WN’s name, when in fact they represent a distinctly different agenda.

        • Southern Nationalists have been extremely straightforward about what they want:

          An ethno-state in Dixie. There is some overlap between this desire and White Nationalism – but there are also key differences. One of which is that most SNs don’t try to tell people from other parts of America what to do.

          Yet I’ve personally seen quite a few non-Southerners come to this site and constantly harp about how Southern Nationalism doesn’t make sense to them. You yourself are not a Southerner (at least from what I remember). And yet you are commenting on a Southern Nationalist site and attacking SN ideas.

          So what exactly does that say?

          • I agree that it’s unseemly for me to intrude on a SN site. But Occidental Dissent didn’t commence operations as a SN site. Hunter only later took it in that direction and I (and many others) have kept commenting here largely out of habit.

            Moreover, there is value in gathering a range of input on how best to address the issues we face in common. For example, there seems to be widespread agreement that the civic nationalist wedge into mainstream politics serves us by bringing our ideas closer to the people. Our differences regarding the ethnic blocs we represent don’t necessarily form an unbridgeable gap at every turn, and indeed I ordinarily don’t make mention of it unless the issue arises.

      • No, realize it, Mr. Vickstrom.

        You see, the wife and I live up in New England for quite some time, and whenever I would mention The South, or present a Southern perspective to things there were 3 reactions –

        #1. Disbelief & Dismissal.

        #2. Anger and Aggression.

        3. Polite acceptance.

        Many Northern Whites have it in their head that the issues they regard were settled, in 1865, are long gone, and they HATE it when it occurs to them that they are not.

        Furthermore, many Northerners regard their view of the nation as the nation, and see any other competing vision as ‘hateful’.

        Many Northerners are unwitting Northern Supremacists, and thus, anyone who, at any time, has not been in concert with them, they regard as a neolithick retard.

  10. Everyone here should be thinking in terms of fighting for their RACE, not geographical sections of the country. The scheming jew and his army of black and brown savages are all racially motivated, I assure you.

    • Your race is your uniform, not your ideology. To the non White world whitey is the enemy: North, South, East, West.

      • To the non White world whitey is the enemy: North, South, East, West.

        I’m not trying to be argumentative, but it’s a lot more complicated than that.

        Jews really don’t fear Poles or Greeks or Sicilians. To them, those peoples are minor annoyances.

        I know this because I used to live in a heavily Jewish neighborhood and I’ve worked for quite a few Jews. This is how they think. Some self-hating Jews will even admit this.

        • Those groups used to (and to a considerable extent still do) see eye to eye with Jews on American racial issues, in which WASPs and other Germanics were the “enemy,” or at least people who had to be watched in case they turned on you. Jews regarded them as natural allies, and were not wrong to.

          But times change. There are racial political openings that didn’t exist (or weren’t perceived to) a couple of generations ago. These people are finding that adhering to the Jewish line on race is more trouble than its worth. I doubt Jews are sanguine about this development.

    • Mate, Southern Nationalism isn’t just about geography. It is a form of ethnic nationalism. In that sense, the SN movement is far closer to movements like Golden Dawn (Greek Nationalism) or the original NSDAP (Germanic Nationalism) than it is to White Nationalism (which is all about creating a nation-state for White people rather than for a specific ethnic group of White people).

      A lot of folks in Northern states automatically gravitate towards White Nationalism because they’ve grown up in a ‘White melting pot.’ But there is still a huge difference between the two movements.

        • Ethnic Nationalism isn’t petty:

          1. There are clear cultural, physical, and mental tendencies that vary from one White ethnic group to another. And we have just as much right to preserve our specific tribes as we do our race.

          2. Most normal folks don’t want to ‘save the White race’ – a race that stretches from the Americas into Russia. The reason why is that they just aren’t going to feel any attachment to something so broad. Ask them about their specific ethnic group though, and you might get a different answer.

          After all, what exactly do I share with a Russian besides ‘muh Whiteness’? Do we have the same outlook on life? The same culture and language?

          I’ve been friends with Russians, and they have many good qualities, but they aren’t my people.

          3. The sense of community created by ethnic Nationalism is far superior to that which would be created in some sort of giant ‘White proposition nation.’ People feel happier when surrounded by folks who are part of their specific tribe, not those who are just vaguely part of the same race.

          4. It has been the ‘petty Nationalists’ who’ve actually had real world victories (the antebellum South, Hitler’s NS, Golden Dawn, etc.)

          White Nationalists have a history of failure. Sounds harsh, but it’s true (I’m still waiting for them to figure out where they’re going to build their White racial state).

          5. With all that said, if you want to support WN that’s fine by me. All I ask is that you guys realize what you’re doing:

          Quite a few of you come here – an explicitly ethnic nationalist site – and complain about how you think ethnic nationalism is petty.

          If you guys don’t like it, build your own site which promotes your ideas. Stop trying to coopt the movement’s created by others.

  11. I think that the Alt-South is an interesting idea. I did agree when, early int he article, Mr. Wallace pointed out hat the current polarization in the U.S.A. was more “coastal urbanites” against “interior ruralites” instead of North versus South. I live in the rural lower Midwest, and agree on that point. We do live in interesting times. I think the Alt-South and the Amerikaner concept share much in their foundation and goals. I wish the Alt-South boys well in their endeavors. https://putnamlibertynotes.wordpress.com/2016/11/27/i-am-an-amerikaner.

  12. Great ideas but I particularly like the idea of counter protesting. It certainly appears that this is critical right now. It is a way of showing support for the president and keeping him on the path…he too will sooner or later face a reluctance to fight any longer unless he sees that people are positively responding to him….all these protestors must be dealt with one way or another and counter protesting is affirmative. Clear these people aside along with their handlers and we open the road to movement in our direction. Dont limit yourselves to just southerners though, bring all like minded individuals into the fold….i think you are absolutely correct the great mass of us outside the south are sympathetic to your desires and by god if you succeed in creating a southern state i for one would love to settle in with you and contribute to a culture for white people. We have run out of places to which we can escape, we need now to begin clearing the land again and building our world once more. Trump is proving to be a start…we should help him help us while we have him.

  13. Southern nationalists should be focusing on cultural nationalism. Any kind of activity related to Southern culture needs to have Southern nationalist oriented groups. Hunting clubs, Southern food clubs, music clubs etc. Make these groups 100% legal, legit and non-controversial. Membership is by invite only, no reason to have an internet presence. It’s about strengthening the movement, not getting publicity. If national feeling is really so strong in the South, there should be thousands of people who would participate. This is the kind of thing you need as a base for more political activism.

    The problem with white attempts at nationalism is that they don’t have this strong base of cultural nationalism or community support. You get 3 white nationalists together, and they want to talk about revolution.

  14. Brad/Fade/Hunter:

    When the paramilitaries forming under your former leader Dr. Michael Hill are referring to ZOG/Babylon and its ruling jews and anglo-semites as “Edomite-Khazarians” they are actually Christian Identiity — and not just OF a Christian Identity. And yes, they may have some different name like “Indomitables”, but just like the militia movement before the suburban whiggers insisted on calling their paramilitary clubs “constitutional militias” and buying SKS’s for urban niggers, most of them were really nothing more than rural Christian Identity / Klan survivalist groups run by veterans. I should know — I founded two “militias” along with other Klansmen and CI types here in Southwest Missouri just after Waco. Now there are three or four times as many of these groups stockpiling beans, bullets, and bandages who call and are called “survivalists” or “preppers”, or even “doomers” — anythang but a militia, which term is used only by ZOGbots and/or fuktards. Nowadaze a “Klansman” or Grand Dragon is some ZOGbot fuktard sporting a fuchia or lavender robe who is dying to hand it over to some 400-lb nigger who wants to get on PBS to denounce “haet” like I seen last month.

    So Brad, you just try to bring in “pagans” or freemasons or even CreaTards to some of your rural types who found the Council of Conservative Citizens too much like the county-seat Chamber of Commerce types who betrayed their Klan grandfathers and see how fast you get called a ZOGbot fuktard sell-out. Not recommended.

    Like you and Dr. Greg Johnson, back in 1993 after Waco and until after the OKC bombing ZOG false-flag operation, I wanted to use the militia movement for political ends. Two days after OKC, me and this other local militia leader had six local survivalist leaders representing 120-160 men tell us that they were not going above-ground to join our militia. I was disappointed. I was also wrong. By early 1997 I myself pulled the plug on the less than a dozen or so left. When Y2Kaos went bust, there was nothing left except a few ZOGbots snitching on what had largely gone underground with nothing left aboveground but a few head of ZOGbot and fuktard.

    So by all means enjoy the fame and [mis]fortune of the Alt-Right, Alt-Light, Alt-South, Alt-NorthWest, Alt-White and . . . Alt-kike. Enjoy the publicity, enjoy the fame, succumb to the flattery of those you don’t know, actually believe that you are “dangerous men.” I’ve been in the bubble myself before. Luckily I never trusted it to last or wanted it to last either.

    You have gotten pretty good at blogging. By all means write your book. Use the Internuts and social media to amass you herds of ass. I fail to see how you think that in an age of decline and degeneracy that you think that you can form a regional or even a state or even county-wide republican form of government.

    Also, there are whispers concerning Richard Spencer and other “leaders” whom the $PLC, the ADL, and the jewsmedia has anointed. But let me clue you into a real nest of jew and mamzer and ZOGbot fuktards:

    http://www.freedomfront.org/board-of-directors/

    “Foundation for the Marketplace of Ideas” <—- aka ZOGbot Poverty [F]Law Center

    The members of this Board of Directors are Attorney Kyle Bristow, his law clerk Bryan Reo, Attorney Brett A Klimkowsky, James Edwards, Mike Enoch, Thom Robb's lawyer son, William Johnson.

    Bryan Reo took down a dozen of my Church web pages because I outed it as a mongrel homosexual working with a former jew jailer named William Finck that murdered a Puerto Rican prisoner in the Jersey City jail both pretending to be Christian Identity pastors. Bryan Reo sued me for $10.75 million in federal court, lost that bogus case and now is suing myself, Roxie, and my Church in Lake County Ohio. I in turn intend to counter-sue in federal district court all of these jew and mamzer and fuktard ZOGbots and their ZOG false-flag operation for abuse of legal process and violation of my and my Church's freedom of speech and religion.

    http://www.whitenationalist.org/forum/showthread.php?1614

    Our entire bowel Movement is nothing but jews & mongrels & ZOGbots & perverts & idiots. Trying to form anything substantial and lasting out of such material is doomed to failure, prison and death.

    The purpose of any "intellectual" in our bowel Movement should be to encourage the inevitable civil war, the skinning out of traitors and the ethnic cleansing of non-whites. And for now that means to support "lone tards" who actually listen to what we say and write and do something and not run away from what we have said and written until the rising tide of collapse makes us seem prophetic.

    I have never doubted the survival of YHWH's Servant Nation of Aryan Christian Israel or the destruction of the Mighty Evil Empire of ZOG/Babylon the Third and Final. My only question is whether it will be of Ten or Twenty million ex-whiggers ruled over by Ten Thousand Warlords under theocratic petty military dictatorships.

    Any doubt as to why every single one of us potential warlords love watching The Walking Dead?

    Hail Victory!!!

    Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt
    Church of Jesus Christ Christian/Aryan Nations of Missouri
    Ten Thousand Warlords Project
    http://whitenationalist.org/forum

    Also posted on Counter-Currents 2Mar17

  15. @Mr. Griffin…

    ‘Basically, the Alt-South would be a space for everyone in Dixie who
    isn’t some kind of leftist or mainstream conservative (i.e.,
    nationalists, populists, reactionaries) to come together to discuss our
    past, present and common future. Southern Nationalists would be at the
    core of the Alt-South.’

    This vision of the alt-South is, in the longterm, a winning vision, Mr. Griffin.

    Why?

    Because it mirrors what The South is and ever has been – a tapestry of race and ethnicity, within the context of a White Majority.

    By creating a structure where those elements can unit and work together, what you have done is essentially created a circumstance where The League can participate in a leadership with others, whilst retaining the highly select identity that is wishes.

    Lastly, because the Alt-Right will naturally reflect the diversity of The South, it will be much harder to stigmatize as ‘hateful’.

    Call me an optimist, if you will, but, I do think it possible KKK, Chamber of Commerce, Negroes, Tea-Party, Unaligned, Jews, Immigrants, Christian Advocacy Organizations, Nazis, Half-breeds, Libertarians and what-not to collaborate in the broad sense of the New South – The Alt-Right South, as you say.

    Creating a ‘safe-space’ where segregated unit can integrate for a specifick purpose, is harmonious with not only who we are, but, how the world has always workt.

    It takes coalitions.

  16. I wish to say one more thing –

    To successfully form a New South, we will have to present a vision that will not be perceived as merely a reactionary response to modernity or as hatred to other peoples.

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