Alt-Right vs. Alt-Lite


Boy, many of us woke up yesterday to find ourselves in a strange place.

I’ve spent much of the last 24 hours defending Richard Spencer on Twitter. I say this is a strange place because we are on the opposite end of the Alt-Right. We’re populists, not elitists; Christians, not atheists; more downhome than fashy. We’re more likely to drive a pickup truck than to hail a cab with Uber.

Still though, we consider ourselves natives of the Alt-Right. We’ve been involved in the larger scene for many, many years now. We have been around from the beginning. We might live on the opposite side of the Alt-Right island from the NPI fashy dude bros, but it is still our freaking island. We have long known everyone on White Man’s Island. We know everyone’s longstanding beef with everyone else.

Well, that was until they came along. It was going on before Trump’s campaign, but it has dramatically accelerated over the past year and a half. They are the Alt-Lite. They are conservatives and libertarians who have only recently immigrated to White Man’s Island. Some of these interlopers are now using The Heil Heard Around The World as an excuse to stake a claim to our freaking island.

By the Alt-Lite, I am referring to Breitbart, the Milo phenomenon, Paul Joseph Watson and Infowars, Cernovich and a few other people. A few years ago, none of these people were around. They certainly weren’t nationalists. They saw that our movement was steadily gaining ground and opportunistically hopped on the bandwagon. We’ve always known this would be a problem once our movement began to hit a critical mass.

I’ve seen this up close. In fact, I think I can explain why and how it happened. It started around the time of the Trayvon Martin case when we were writing about race hoaxes and black crime. We’ve covered the race beat for years, but it was starting to generate enormous traffic. That was the precise moment when all these conservative clickbait websites suddenly began to cover racial issues which they had long ignored.

They noticed that there was a large audience and growing market for our issues. The top management at these websites must have realized that there was a lot of money to be made by adopting our issues while watering down our Narrative in order to maintain plausible deniability. All these stories about black-on-white crime, illegal aliens, political correctness, anti-White outrages, etc., etc., generated those sweet clicks which allowed them to gain marketshare over rival conservative clickbait websites.

That’s how the Alt-Lite was conjured into existence. It was basically conservative websites pushing Alt-Right material in order to generate clicks and revenue. It was their version of crack cocaine. I’ve never listened to talk radio, but I assume they were in on the act as well. After two or three years into second Obama term, all these clickbait stories had produced a hybrid of conservatism and the Alt-Right.

Now, we suddenly have a new problem on our hands. We have all these people running around with half-baked ideas on social media. We’ve got all these clickbait entreprenuers and bandwagon jumpers in search of an audience who had nothing to do with us until they realized they could make buck off the plight of our people. They’re out there selling e-books, gold coins, water filters, survival packs and pop-up advertisements. Get your Silver Bullet Collodial Silver for only $19.95. You will need it to fight the globalists!

I’ve got a lot of differences with Richard Spencer, but we all know he is ideologically driven. He’s a longtime resident of White Man’s Island. We know what Richard Spencer is about. Breitbart, however, is the Wal-Mart of nationalism. It is the premier Alt-Lite conservative clickbait website run by some Jews out of Los Angeles. It’s useful in the same way that Wal-Mart is useful, but no one in the right mind would say Joel Pollack in his yarmuluke crying about “racism” is one of us. They’ve set up shop in our hood and we’re their customers, but none of us work there. What the hell does Milo Yiannopoulos – a Jewish homosexual who boasts about carrying on interracial relationships with black men – have to do with us?

Anyway, I’ve steadily grown disgusted with all these triangulating hucksters, johnny-come-latelys and money-making poseurs boasting about all their clicks and e-book sales. They’re all condemning Spencer who boasts about the spread of his ideas while they are boasting about the growth of their audience. It was especially offensive when several of these Alt-Lite types tried to purge Spencer from the Alt-Right – he’s banned from Twitter and unable to defend himself, so they kicked him while he was down – because they concluded he was having an adverse effect on their marketing gimmick.

That shit just rubbed me the wrong way. It made me want to get all Red The Angry Bird on them. Don’t walk into another man’s house, smack your gums, put your feet up on the coffee table, and tell the man who lives there to get out. Bro, show the man of the house some damn respect! He’s allowed to make mistakes!

Note: It even rubbed Andrew Anglin the wrong way!


  1. Some people like to impose their ideal onto reality.

    Others like to observe and study the reality before coming up with solutions.

    Idealists tend to be impositionists. Realists tend to be repositionists.

    Idealists tend to ignore reality or even deny it.

    So, if the ideal happens to be ‘equality’, it must be the way of reality. If reality isn’t made of equal things, idealism feels a need to impose its ideal onto reality. If the reality doesn’t conform to such demands, idealism pushes harder and harder and demands the outcome of equality.

    Of course, idealists could force every student to get the same score of 50. They could force the teachers to give everyone the score of 50.

    But this outcome would have been imposed. It is not organic and intrinsic to the actual reality that, if left alone, will produce different outcomes on tests among the students.

    In contrast, realists first observe and study the students as they really are. But since society calls for achievement, realists understand that even the lesser minds have to be molded to learn something and gain some skills. So, instead of just resigning the lesser minds to hopeless ‘dumbness’, realists call for sufficient training to reposition them toward some useful goal.

    But it doesn’t try to impose equality on all students.

    Now, idealists might pretend to make realist argument. They may argue that research shows that the reason for the differences among students isn’t due to innate inequality of individual intelligence but to social factors as malnutrition and economic factors.

    And realists may actually agree that those are factors worth looking into.

    But realists would still argue that, while such factors may play a part in retarding the performance of certain students, there is no guarantee of equal test scores that once the social factors have been reduced.

    In contrast, idealists continue to insist that their ideal must be proven correct. So, if it isn’t manifested in real outcomes, idealist may once again insist on imposing equal outcomes on all the students.

    Or consider the ideal of universal beauty.

    Suppose beauty idealists believe that everyone must be equally beautiful.

    But reality says otherwise. Some are beautiful, some are not.

    Realists would point this out.

    But idealists cannot accept this because of their ideal of universal beauty.

    They feel a need to impose equal beauty on everyone.

    But no matter how much they impose this rule, the reality says otherwise.

    Now, Realists understand the yearning to be beautiful and would recommend that the less beautiful seek to ‘reposition’ their looks for improvement. With makeup and other means, looks can be made better. Realists would understand the yearning and look for ways to heighten beauty among the homely, but they would also understand that universal beauty is simply not a feature of reality. It just isn’t.

    Of course, no one is a total idealist, and no one is a total realist.

    No one is calling for All students to get same grade or look equally good.

    And no one is saying the dumb can only be dumb and homely can only be homely.

    Even hardcore realists know that dumb people can be made smarter through education and experience. And they know that even plain, even ugly, people can be made more appealing with cosmetics, dress, and etc.

    Still, idealists want to impose an ideal that simply isn’t feasible in the real world. It’s like NYT coming up with yet another possible solution to fix the Gap.

    Realists believe that education can be improved, but we cannot impose equality on reality just because we want it. Reality doesn’t work that way.

    It’s like a dog with a broken leg. A realist can recognize the injury and treat the dog so the injury can heal. It wants to make the dog better, but it also knows there is no guarantee that it will run as fast as it did before.

    In contrast, an idealist looks at a dog with a broken leg and insists that it be made to run as fast as it could earlier. It has no interest in reality and its limits and variances.

    It’s like communist economic planning. The state would come up with some ideal goal, and then it had to be achieved regardless of whether it was possible or not in the real world. The Great Leap Forward was one of the most epic tragedies of radical idealism.

    Idealism cannot be imposed on reality simply because idealists want it. If a bunch of people are of different height, you can’t make them of equal height by imposing the same height on everyone.

    A realist might argue that better diet might make the shorter ones grow a bit taller, but there is no guarantee that they will reach the average height, let alone the tallest height.

    Much of western social/political discourse doesn’t begin with close and honest observation of reality. If that were the case, we would carefully study every group and see what they are made of. And then, we can work from that reality.

    Instead, it begins with certain ideals that have turned downright dogmatic over the years. And these ideals are so sacrosanct that reality must conform to them. If reality doesn’t, then reality is blamed than the ideal.

    If an idealist wants a cat to be a dog, it tries to impose dog-ness on the cat instead of accepting the cat as a cat and dealing with the animal on that basis.

    To be sure, there are certain idealisms on the ‘right’ as well.

    On the homo issue, both homomaniacs and religious anti-homo folks are idealists.

    Arch-religious folks see homosexuality as mere wickedness that can be driven out of homo people. They believe homosexuality is a condition than a permanent feature of homos. This condition, like a disease, can be cured or driven out. But in fact, people who are born homo are naturally homo, even though homosexuality is a natural abnormality.

    But homomaniacs are also nutty with their idealism. They say homosexuality is of same biological and moral value as real sexuality. They say there can be ‘two mommies’ and ‘two daddies’. But the fact is ‘two mommies’ or ‘two daddies’ cannot produce kids. So, we must make believe that they ‘had’ the kids. Instead of recognizing homos for what they are and trying to find solutions from that basic natural reality, homomaniacs have an ideal about homosexuality as being just as good, wonderful, natural-normal, and functional as real sexuality. So, we must believe that anus is a sex organ. Or, in the case of trannies, we must believe that if a guy says his mutilated penis is vagina, we must go along with such imposition of idealism(or fantasy)onto reality.

    It is a grafting of sorts.

    In contrast to both Christian idealists(who deny the reality of homosexuality as a natural occurrence) and homomanical idealists(who deny the fact that homosexuality is a biologically useless natural defect/deviance), we have the realists who recognize the fact of homosexuality and recognize the need to accommodate homosexuals in society without going full retard with the notion that homosexuality and transsexuality are just as natural-normal, sane, healthy, and functional as real sexuality.

    Idealists always try to impose or graft their wish onto reality than work from actual reality, derive conclusions based on honest observation, and then formulate palliatives to the problems observed in reality.

    The only way idealism can work is with radical bio-engineering in the future.

    Prog idealists rail against eugenics, but their future might be possible only with something similar: eugenetics.

    The only way to make everyone equal is if scientists can toy with the genes of every person and rejig them to be equal in intelligence, looks, health, strength, etc. That wouldn’t be imposing the ideal but programming it into the core of the DNA.

    But unless such method is possible, leftist idealism is just fantastical imposition on reality than a development of solutions based on that reality.

    Equality can only be seeded from within, not imposed from without. But as the current left is fixated on sociology against biology, it still thinks it can achieve equality through more social policy.

    To an extent, even realists are idealists in that they want the good thing for everyone.

    People want to be smart and good-looking, and even realists understood the desire for such ideals.

    The difference is that realists accept the obvious fact that reality isn’t made of equally intelligent and equally beautiful people. So, if people want to strive for the ideal of higher intelligence and beauty, they can take some measures to be more mindful and more attractive… but they should not expect to be equal in IQ and looks with everyone else, especially the best.

    Radical idealism disagrees. It insists there can be and must be equality in intelligence and beauty. When reality doesn’t produce their desired results, they then turn to sophistry that says there are many kinds of intelligence and that even ‘dumb’ people are intelligent in other ways and that ‘ugly’ women are beautiful in their own way. That explains the Lena Dunham phenomenon.

    But then, so-called leftist idealists are not really into universality. After all, their disaffection always seems to favor certain groups over others. They are never concerned about all groups despite their universalist rhetoric.

    So, if blacks are underperforming in education, that is a great reason for concern.

    But if they are overperforming in sports, there is no complaint about their unequal superiority over others and the ‘unjust’ inferiority of non-blacks.

    And if Jews are overperforming in education and overrepresented in elite centers of power, there is no complaint whatsoever. Indeed, even the overrepresentation at Princeton wasn’t enough for Jewish groups. Though Jews are 2% of population and overrepresented as 10% of student body at Princeton, the complaint from Jewish groups was not that Jews were overrepresented but underrepresented.

    So, much of leftist idealism is really bogus and play loose according to ethnic opportunism.

    I mean how sincere are Jewish ‘leftists’ who profess to be about equality. If such idealism were truly to be achieved, then Jews who are 2% of the population would only make 2% of lawyers, 2% of doctors, 2% of media, 2% of academia, 2% of Hollywood, 2% of Silicon Valley, 2% of Wall Street, 2% of upper echelons of US government, 2% of lobbying power, and etc.

    Do ‘leftist’ Jews really desire such outcome where Jews are like everyone else? If that were so, a people who are 2% would only own 2% of everything.

    Complaint of inequality only plays out in US political and social discourse when certain favored groups are underrepresented in prestigious areas or fields.

    There is no bitching about how the Jewish minority is more represented in prestigious and privileged areas than Muslims are.

    And there is endless bitching about how blacks are underrepresented in everything from physics department at Cornell to quarterback positions in football.

    Those who bitch most about inequality are most unequal in their focus of complaints. The only people who matter in the equation are the favored groups, especially Jews, Negroes, and homos. And the other people who matter are the scapegoated group that is held responsible for all the inequality. And that means white folks. So, if there aren’t enough blacks in a certain area, don’t blame Jews and homos who may be vastly over-represented in that area. Just bring out the straight white male effigy and light it again.


  2. The ones he disavowed were trying to ride his coat tails to advance their own cause. What they were attempting would require a high degree of skill considering WW2 history, the way Pro Whites behave on the Internet and who the establishment really (((is))). Don’t try it at home if you are not a professional.

  3. The funny thing is that Richard Spencer is rather alt-lit himself, homosexuality is part of White culture and even associate with manosphere homo Jack Donovan (at least Milo isn´t trying to mix homosexuality with masculinity).

    Anyone who calls Richard Spencer a White Supremacist and a Nazi is either completely dishonest or completely stupid, possibly both!
    Notice how he calling himself a classical liberal, just like those tranny cultural-marxists proclaiming that no communist governement was actually marxist.

    Hey… stop struggling Watson, stop struggling while we bog you!

  4. Agreed. I find Spencer, Donovan, Johnson et al to be more subversive of White culture than obvious opportunists and enemies like Milo, Kikebart, Kike Pollock. It was the Spencer-types who opened the gates for the Milos, Kikes, fags.

  5. Of course the small number of altrighters didn’t elect Trump. Just like the small number of neocons didn’t elect Bush (or the small number of Kike voters don’t elect anyone outside of their enclaves in NY, FL, CA, etc) The point is who sets the media agenda, moves the overton window, campaigns, and gets the large mass of malleable and apathetic voters out.

  6. It is a fallen world where Jews are worshipped.

    Also I saw this too…it’s a shame that Spencer failed to mention that many CEO types are Jewish. People who can present White but are ultimately hostile Semites. It gets funny in the last 5 minutes. One thing about Egypt. Stonehenge and New Grange went up st the same time as Giza. Could have easily been the same technicians and designers. Who designs big projects like that today? Whitey architects.

  7. Prediction: Trump will not get re-elected if he stabs white people in the back.

    We are watching what he does.

  8. I don’t even blame Spencer.

    How was he to know there were some bumpkin Nazi LARPers in the audience who were going to get excited and perform Roman salutes for the cameras?

    Were these people collaborating with Alt-Lite figures to make Richard and NPI look dumb?

  9. It’s funny that the Alt-Right stupidly welcomed Cernovich, PJW, and Lauren Southern into the movement only to be betrayed by them, while vilifying loyalists such as Roosh.

  10. The jews in Washington and the jews in the mainstream media NEVER protested and never railed against Alex Jones all the years the trolls on Alex Jones’ payroll working from their offices in Saul Alinsky’s University of Chicago were very ardently promoting and inculcating the “KILL THE COPS! KILL THE PIGS!” meme, that the jews in Washington and in the mainstream media never protested and railed against. Alex Jones’ media corporation is named “Red Cow Productions” and the “Red Cow” refers to the RED COW of the jews, it’s a jew religious thing, “RED Cow”. The jews in Washington and the jews in the mainstream media fully well do know Alex Jones works for them, they fully well do know that “Red Cow” refers to a jew religious sect of die-hard Jew Supremacists working to advance the One World Government to be ruled from Jerusalem, Israel, and how they pretend not to know, and how they pretend Alex Jones is “really” “opposed” to them. It’s ALL bullshit.

    And the jews in Washington and the jews in the mainstream media NEVER protested and never railed against Alex Jones all the years he CENSORED , and to this day still CENSORS, anyone who mentioned/mentions THE TRUTH ABOUT KENT STATE. Jew Communist agitators from Chicago are the ones responsible for KENT STATE. A sharp-shooter on the Communist payroll fired the first shot at KENT STATE, NOT THE NATIONAL GUARD. And the night before KENT STATE JEW COMMUNISTS FROM CHICAGO STARTED AN ARSON RIOT IN THE TOWN RIGHT OUTSIDE THE CAMPUS OF KENT STATE. None of that was reported by the jews in the mainstream media and Alex Jones doesn’t want it to be known either, the jews in Washington don’t want it to be known either, and the jews in the mainstream media and in Hollywood don’t want it to be known.

    It was immediately after KENT STATE ,PLANNED AND FOMENTED AND THE WORK OF JEW COMMUNISTS FROM CHICAGO , THAT THE MEME “KILL THE COPS! KILL THE PIGS!” became a mainstream media meme/trope, and was greatly promoted and inculcated in the mainstream media and in Hollywood. Before Kent State, the meme “Kill the Cops! Kill The Pigs!” was promoted in the black neighborhoods in the United States, after Kent State the work of JEW COMMUNISTS , “Kill The Cops! Kill The Pigs!” was promoted to ALL Americans.

    NO jew anywhere ever protested or protests or rails against Alex Jones for being CENSORIOUS ABOUT THE TRUTH CONCERNING KENT STATE.

    Alex Jones is disgusting to promote and spread and inculcate the meme that was started by murderous blood thirsty jews. Jones is detestable. And the jews in Washington and in the mainstream media news and in Hollywood fully well do know Alex Jones is solidily on their jew Supremacist Communist side. The name of his media production company says IT ALL. And the jews in Washington and in the mainstream and in Hollywood fully well do know the name “RED COW” is ALL about Jew Supremacism ;

    So their jew protesting and jew railing against Alex Jones now is all about smoke and mirrors, sowing confusion, all about show business and it’s all jew lies and jew bullshit, and I hope the jews in Washington and in the mainstream media and in Hollywood read this here post. FUCK the jews and their lies. That’s all they do is LIE. LIE and foment violence and WAR, and they want a massive RACE WAR IN THE UNITED STATES AND HAVE WANTED MASSIVE RACE WAR IN THE USA FOR A VERY LONG TIME, THAT’S WHAT THEY’RE WORKING AND STRIVING FOR AND HAVE BEEN SINCE THE 1960S AT LEAST — IF NOT LONGER. That’s another reason they’re so upset Hillary lost, Hillary was going to give the jews the MASSIVE RACE WAR THE JEWS ALWAYS WANTED FOR THE UNITED STATES. MURDEROUS BASTARDS.

    Alex Jones, supposedly a “Patriotic” American, always promoted and inculcated the jew’s COMMUNIST murderous “Kill The Cops! Kill The Pigs!” meme/trope the jews love to promote so much, the meme is promoted by Hollywood all the time, in the mainstream news, the news is abridged and truncated in such a way to make as many Americans as possible to hate cops , espeically blacks and minorities are always being propagandized to hate cops, esp. White cops, , the blacks and minorities are always being goaded on to hate cops and to want to go out and kill cops. That message is always promoted in the MSM and in Hollywood and Washington never protests or gets angry that jew Communist meme is promoted everywhere one turns. Obama and his Al Sharpton actively encourage the blacks to go out and KILL cops, esp. White cops [ and also KILL White Americans period, cops or not cops, KILL Whites ] ; Washington is silent about that, as Washington makes such a big stink about the Alt Right media. The jews never protested against and never railed against Alex Jones for promoting all these many years their COMMUNIST murderous “Kill The Cops! Kill The Pigs!” [ esp. White cops ] filthy dirty murderous blood-thirsty meme/trope.

  11. He’s going to chase the groids out of the best urban real estate. This will be bad for suburbanite whites. The contours of this fight will be quite interesting.

  12. This happens in every movement. It isn”t the labels which define us, it is our handful of core principles. Hunter, I believe you wrote an essay about this very issue a few months ago.

    Also, I am a bit unhappy to see so much Alt Right investment in Trump. Trump is not and never has been one of us. Trump has done great good and will do more, but he is not the answer to anything. Denise the Celt, among others, was making that point more than a year and a half ago.

    I can pretty much guarantee that if Trump does turn out to be a miracle worker, half of his voters or more will happily go back to sleep.

  13. The difference is that he doesn´t claim such behaviour is part of White society or try to pass it off as masculinity.

    Paul Joseph Watson or Donovan might not bath in pig blood but they are worst, into the bog they go!

  14. Thank you, Bill Jackson.

    Hunter, I’m sorry, but anyone in the vanguard, and I am going with the MSM’s definition of the vanguard as anyone who leaves so much as a paper trail or an electronic trail under an anonymous user name, should not expect to have an explicit influence on politicians.

    We all remember how Mindweapons was outed and shut down over two years ago. The blogger’s wife ran for political office and the opposition used his positions to torpedo her campaign. If you want political office, if you want to be invited to the White House and assigned to a cabinet position or anything else, you basically have to be “David Duke without the baggage.” Or even married to a David Duke without the baggage.

    David Duke has paid and continued to pay a high price for his KKK activities. How much a racial activist is allowed to prosper depends on how much leeway or encouragement is offered by TPTB. That’s why Al Sharpton is rich and has his own television show on MSNBC as his platform and David Duke is only allowed on to news shows because his endorsement is used to discredit a candidate, is barely scraping by, and always has his youtube channel taken down.

    That’s the bad news. The good news is that the Alt-Right is forcing the (((Usual Suspects))) to allow for the creation of the “Alt-Lite,” which is really an official Right medium to allow for a POV which is not only NOT Anti-White, but is even explicitly Pro-White in a limited way.

    I am saying that any Right medium that does not only not explicitly name the (((Usual Suspects))) but has many of (((them))) as its members will be allowed to thrive. The presence of (((Milo))) himself is more representative of the “Alt-Lite” than the Alt-Right to me. The Savage Show with (((Dr, Michael Savage))) could be considered “Alt-Lite” before his time.

    Yes, I know that many Aryans balk at the idea that this is another example of Semite Control on what they do, but I don’t think even an “Alt Lite” would be in effect right now if not for the “Savages” or what Mindweapons used to call the “Jonathans” which could be defined as Jews who have assimilated enough to absorb a sense of Whiteness into their own identities and thus have implicit Pro-White leanings. These are also Jews who may have been mugged by racial realities where people of color are concerned and are starting to intuit that, in a race war, their skin color is going to draft them onto the White side whether they wish
    to be there or not.

    I like the “Alt-Lite,” because I believe it is good for Whites. Vanguards can dismiss it as a safety valve that distracts Whites from (((The Real Problem))). And that could be true as long as the Alt-Right doesn’t continue putting the “Alt-Lite’s” feet to the fire by maintaining their positions.

    However, if the less violent, less kooky elements of the vanguard can pull their collective heads out of their own vanity, which is making them so territorial that they don’t want to share their little island, Hunter, they can see and exploit the “Alt-Lite” as a way of filtering out their ideas to an acceptable venue to Whites who would otherwise be scared off by their “antisemitism.”

    So,”vanguard” sites like this one can Name the (((Usual Suspects))) by ranting about their actions and occupations. The “Alt-Lite” filter rebrands the (((Usual Suspects))) with their occupations of which many include Shabby Goys. So, then the White consumer gets informed about the Lying Media, the Globalists, the Banksters, etc. And the (((Usual Suspects) stop getting away with murder, without being murdered themselves.

    Aside from extreme vanguardists, no Pro-Whites want a Star-Spangled, Red, White and Blue Pogrom. They don’t want to create more antisemitism; they want to end anti-gentilism. They want to end Anti-Christian agendas. They want to end Anti-White agendas.

    The vanguard needs to stop throwing tantrums over their exclusion from the establishment, because their function is to be the anti-establishment. The bad cop. The “Alt-Lite” must be used to be the “good cop” to the Vanguard’s “bad cop” where the establishment is concerned. Good Cop-Bad Cop has worked successfully where racial activism is concerned in the past. We saw this with Black activists during the sixties. Malcolm X portrayed himself as Bad Cop to Martin Luther King’s Good Cop to White Liberals and White Conservative Bedwetters back in the sixties, for example.

    No, Hunter, I understand that you resent every bit of revenue and clicks the “Alt-Lite” is funneling away from even the more moderate vanguard sites like this one, but that’s the price ideological purists pay. You are doing the work of the Lord by keeping the “Alt-Lite’s” feet to the fire with these great, thought-provoking articles of yours, forcing them to be your megaphone wheter they like it or not.

  15. Personally that is what I would advise him to do, offer them unity for a while and once they inevitably refuse…

  16. White people, not ‘pro-white’ people, didn’t fall for the trap of believing Hillary Clinton and the Democrats give a rat’s ass for the white working class, or any whites but elites. That is absolutely not the same as saying they regarded Trump’s attitudes towards women just ‘silly locker room talk.’

  17. You want to talk about a trap? Renegade people have exposed just how contrived the feminists are who Southern taunts. Which is to say, she’s almost certainly a paid op just like they are. This isn’t speculation, it’s been proven. Most of the ‘feminists’ Southern engages in her videos are paid to be there.

    She is as bad or worse. If you and other whites weren’t so ridiculously reactionary you’d see some of the obvious baiting going on.

  18. @gubblerchechenova:disqus

    Thank you very much for your insights on Mr. Spencer. I am sorry for my own knee-jerk reaction to the “Sig-Heling” stuff. When I heard about it, I had no idea that it was done by a Phillipina and two Jews. It was just that coupled with Spencer being banned from Hungary which is about as right wing as it gets made me wonder if Spencer was an agent provocateur.

    If Spencer is what you believe he is, I hope he is very successful in the future. I am going to research Kurtagic as you have got me curious about him.

    I just hope the hysterics over Trump’s “disavowals” go. Trump may have dog-whistled to us on steroids, but it was nothing more than the Republican SOP of the past. To his credit, Trump is trying to honor what he can through Sessions and promoting Governor Nimrata out of any position of power in South Carolina so he can replace her with a real Southerner. Trump envisions himself as the REAL post-racial and post-War Between The States President whose civic nationalism is going to magically transform Confederates into loyal Unionists and Non-White American socialists to White Conservative capitalists in blackface, etc. He will be disabused of at least that latter notion soon enough

    Trump did not win the popular vote thanks
    to stupid urban and suburban Whites. Too many Whites either voted for
    Hillary directly or indirectly by voting for Johnson or McMullin. He
    won the electoral vote by a large minority of rural Whites living in
    strategic areas behind the Blue Wall. They were more motivated by
    economic issues than racial issues and that is the voting population to
    which he needs to keep his promises if he plans to run again in 2020 (and I believe he does) and win his next term with not only the electoral vote but the popular vote as well. That must come from ALL White people, including US.

    We need to keep him focused on jobs, jobs, jobs, building that wall, replacing free trade with fair trade, and implementing an immigration program that helps America rather than hurts her. That way we can build his White support by bringing in people who sat out the election altogether or “voted their principles” and also bring in those White liberal Democrats from the cold after Keith Ellison throws them out of the party.

    The best way to achieve any real Pro-White objectives by 2024 is to deliver him a YUUUUUUUUUGE White racial voting bloc in 2020. You add Working Class people of color with their own bread and butter issues, and Trump has the ability to implement these objectives, because he has a clear and unarguable mandate from the American people to do so.

  19. “He has a new book coming out in December about the Israeli psychologists Daniel Kahneman and Amos Tversky, The Undoing Project, who studied why people make bad decisions.”

    I don’t know about the authors’ theories, but I think most bad decisions are based on either instinct or ideology, though if ideology takes over a society, it can almost function as a kind of second-nature instinct, an ideolonct or ideonct.

    Instinct-driven bad decisions are usually connected to the pleasure principle or strong emotions. We can see this with people who eat too much sugary food even though they know it’s bad for them. Or people who won’t quit smoking even though tobacco is slowly killing them. Too much addictive pleasure. And too many guys go with bad women cuz of sexual attraction, and good girls often go with bad boys for same reason.

    But the reasons could be emotional too. If you have a personal animus toward someone, you might want to do things to ruin him(even if it ruins you too) than do things that is mutually beneficial to both of you. Revenge Principle is a strong emotion.

    Also, as humans are social animals, they instinctively want to be approved and liked. So, even if they think a certain proposal is bad, they may go along just to be part of the tribe.

    Also, most humans are followers than leaders, would-be-employees than employers. So, they tend to follow whoever is considered the Best or Top Dog.

    The instinct for approval and authority plays into Ideology-driven reasons for bad decisions. Most people follow whatever ideology that happens to be dominant.

    And all ideologies have its sacred truths and taboos.

    Under PC, what is called ‘hate speech’ is just Critical Speech. Even if you don’t call homos ‘f–s’, you will be called a ‘homophobe’ and hater if you are very critical of homo power and agenda. And even if you don’t wave the Nazi flag, don’t reject the Holocaust narrative, and don’t call Jews ‘k—s’, you will be denounced as a hateful ‘anti-Semite’ if you’re critical of Jewish power and Zionist agenda.

    While I support all free speech, I can see why some speech is considered especially ‘hateful’. Some people get a kick out of saying willfully offensive stuff about various peoples. But what is often called ‘hateful’ is merely critical without being mindlessly hostile and deranged. If anything, the most hateful passions are seen among the Progs who claim to oppose ‘hate’.

    If only mindlessly hateful speech were banned, it wouldn’t do much harm to the cause of truth. Even though I’m for total freedom of speech, I might concede the world might be a better place if people didn’t say such horrible stuff as you often find on the political fringe.

    But when critical speech is banned, there will be much social, moral, and intellectual damage since everyone has to tip-toe and skirt around the obvious and true, the very facts that are essential for better personal decisions and social policy.

    And who can deny that PC bans a whole host of critical speech regarding certain favored groups such as Jews, homos, and blacks? This ban on critical speech once almost destroyed Daniel Patrick Moynihan for stating the obvious about welfare and black families. And BLM is the result of such corruption. Since we can’t be honestly critical of black pathologies and realities, we have this surreal situation where we have to treat black bullies and thugs as the main victims of society.

    And Jewish Power, that used to be nearly synonymous with critical speech(against Wasp power), is now so utterly corrupt because it won’t tolerate critical speech about Jews and their influence.

    And when ideology is drummed into kids from a young age, a kind of epi-instinct or epinstinct develops within them. A lot of kids raised on PC have an almost knee-jerk quasi-instinctive reaction to any fact or truth that pricks their precious PC bubble. They bark like crazed dogs cuz they can’t handle the truth or they leap into the PC pond like frogs in fear of the truth that is seen as bogeyman.

    What they call ‘safe spaces’ isn’t for their physical safety. It’s to be protected from intellectual truth and critical thinking. They are like the Boy in the Plastic Mental Bubble. At least Travolta’s character wanted to come out of the bubble. Millennial snowflakes wanna hide.

    I think we need to have an understanding among all sides that it is possible to have different positions(based on emotions) but nevertheless acknowledge certain facts and truths.

    Positions are not entirely about facts. They are about emotions.

    The Zionist position is emotionally pro-Jewish regardless of facts that undermine Zionism.

    The Palestinian position is emotionally pro-Palestinians regardless of facts that undermine Palestinianism.

    Such positions are about tribal identity, sense of belonging, us and them, and etc. While they may be rooted in facts of history — Jews and Arabs have existed over centuries and have developed unique cultures — , one’s loyalty to a particular position is often personal and emotion-laden.

    People hold those positions rooted in emotions and passion, a sense of belonging and commitment(that not everyone in the tribe share but many do).

    In contrast, facts exist regardless one’s position. So, even a diehard Zionist should accept the fact that Palestinians were ethnically expelled and still live under Occupation in West Bank. That is a fact.

    And even a diehard Palestinian should acknowledge the fact that Palestinian terrorists have killed Jewish civilians just minding their daily business.

    But according to PC, positions determine facts and inconvenient facts must be dismissed. They are ‘hate facts’.

    So, since the PC position is ‘blacks are noble’, black thuggery is whitewashed with obfuscating terms like ‘teens’ and ‘youths’.

    And since PC says we must regard Jews as victims forever, even what is clearly Jewish power and privilege in places like Hollywood is just referred to as ‘white privilege’.

    Some people pay attention to Alt Right not necessarily for its positions. Some may not agree with or even be appalled by white identity movement or Alt Rights particular political or racial obsessions. But even non-Alt-Rightists sometimes realize that Alt Right is speaking far more honestly about the BARE FACTS of race, crime, intelligence, problems of diversity, homosexuality, sexual differences, and etc.

    It’s like I used to read The Nation not for its positions but for the facts it dug up about certain dark aspects of capitalism. Since every position tends to prefer facts that back up and justify that position, it’s good to survey other positions that dig up facts overlooked by other positions.

    The failure of MSM, especially since the end of the Cold War, has been its failure to expose and discuss the most consequential facts of power in America and the World. PC turns a blind eye to the sheer destructive power of black thuggery. It also turns a blind eye to all the reckless financial and foreign policy of globalism that is largely shaped by Zionists.

    Suppose someone is anti-Marxist, but the capitalist news he reads is filled with lies and lies. In contrast, suppose the Marxist news, though loathsome from a positional perspective, is more accurate in the reporting of economic facts. He may then read the Marxist news for the facts if not for its ideology.

    This is a valuable asset of Alt Right, and it shouldn’t turn it into its own brand of PC.


  20. ‘I’ve spent much of the last 24 hours defending Richard Spencer on
    Twitter. I say this is a strange place because we are on the opposite
    end of the Alt-Right. We’re populists, not elitists; Christians, not
    atheists; more downhome than fashy. We’re more likely to drive a pickup truck than to hail a cab with Uber.’


  21. Did the alt-right fall for the absurd MSM narrative that Trump is a white nationalist, fascist, xenophobe, nazi, racist, homophobe, and sexist? Are they abandoning him now because they see that Trump is none of these things?

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