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Ain’t That America: The Virtue of Five White Men

It’s no secret around here that America is anti-White. This is our core argument … America is anti-White, anti-Southern, anti-Christian, and anti-conservative, and White Southerners should secede and form an independent nation.

Don’t believe me? Listen to what US Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid had to say about the Hobby Lobby decision below.

Note: Imagine what would happen if the US Senate Majority Leader said that the virtue of seven “niggers” on the Birmingham City Council should not decide the fate of the millions of White men who live in the Birmingham Metro Area. Such a person would surely have to resign from office like Trent Lott, right?

In the United States, “White men” is now casually used in the same sense that “nigger” was used in the Old South. What does that say about America? Does it follow that America is the greatest in the country in the world? Does it follow that America has the greatest system of government ever invented by man?

  • Warspite

    Brad:

    May I politely suggest you consider the implications of your statement on the fundamental difference between WN and WS. First of all, I have to again remind you that what you regard as some crucial difference is almost no difference at all. WS believe in keeping the nation as is, except everyone serves some undefinable “white race”. WN believe the non-Whites should simply be expelled. Do you really believe there is any intellectual honesty in suggesting there is a whit of difference in these two positions? If you do, you are simply incorrect. The only difference is apparent to those willing to regard this rather bizarre monkish dispute as being worthy of serious consideration. Believe what you will about various races and ethnic groups, it is your privilege. But only a fool would suggest there is any sort of substantial divergence in thought between the positions you have outlined.

    Second, are you aware that as you describe the differences, the White Supremicist beliefs sound more “reasonable” or at least more realistic than those of White Nationalists? Supremacists sound pretty upfront on a neo Nazi philosophy. Sort of like the Nazis planned in conquered Soviet land less, I hope, the planned “depletions” in population. WN, however, sound like they propose a racist pipe dream in which expulsions result in a “white” nation. Leaving aside defining your acceptable Whiteness, only a total kook would ruminate about the possibility of expelling perhaps 125m or more persons.

    If WN indeed want a “White” nation the only possible solution is emigration away from the US. The country imagined is absolutely not consistent with the United States formed via the Constitution. Any argument to the contrary is lunacy and inaccurate. Because the number of people actually desiring to leave would be (let’s face it) small, you could actually realistically consider the maybe (?) 50,000 WN and WS in the US emigrating to another land to form your own country. To some extent the Zionist movement would offer a roadmap, although the Zionist leadership was infinitely more capable.

    Where to locate I have no idea. Didn’t some Confederates attempt to set up emigree communities in South America? I think one even stuck. If I had to make a suggestion of someplace close by I would point to Cuba. The White population of Cuba left in droves during Castro’s time, leaving a dearth of white people. It likely represents the best possible ground floor opportunity for Supremicists and Nationalists. Another possibility in Venezuala, for some similar reasons. To be candid, what other possibilities could exist? Your rhetoric has not exactly won friends and admirers throughout any part of the world.

    If the only response you put forward is some nonsense about expelling non whites and seceding, don’t bother. Further, if you actually believe such a scenario possible it undermines any credibility you desire for your economic commentaries. No one will be interested in the opinions of a crackpot.

  • Warspite

    Denises: state your plan.

  • Warspite,

    “Brad:

    May I politely suggest you consider the implications of your statement on the fundamental difference between WN and WS. First of all, I have to again remind you that what you regard as some crucial difference is almost no difference at all.”

    Once again, there is a substantial difference – a racially homogeneous ethnostate, which is what WNs advocate, or a multiracial state dominated by Whites, which is what white supremacists have traditionally advocated in the United States. I’m willing to grant, however, that from the perspective of an anti-racist the difference might look smaller than it actually is, which is approximately the difference between antebellum Mississippi and Oregon.

    “WS believe in keeping the nation as is, except everyone serves some undefinable “white race”.

    As you know, the white race was defined in both federal legislation and state statutes until the 1960s. The matter was also litigated in the courts. See, for example, the Dred Scott decision.

    “WN believe the non-Whites should simply be expelled.”

    Expelled or granted independence along the lines of Lesotho. Regardless, the goal of WN is to create a racially homogeneous White ethnostate, which is hardly the same thing as keeping around a black labor force to work on cotton plantations.

    “Do you really believe there is any intellectual honesty in suggesting there is a whit of difference in these two positions? If you do, you are simply incorrect.”

    Absolutely.

    The difference is that white supremacists are okay with multiracialism so long as Whites are the dominant caste whereas WNs want an ethnically-based society, not a caste-based one.

    “The only difference is apparent to those willing to regard this rather bizarre monkish dispute as being worthy of serious consideration. Believe what you will about various races and ethnic groups, it is your privilege. But only a fool would suggest there is any sort of substantial divergence in thought between the positions you have outlined.”

    This is an irrational ad hominem argument. I’ve explained the difference between the two.

    “Second, are you aware that as you describe the differences, the White Supremicist beliefs sound more “reasonable” or at least more realistic than those of White Nationalists? Supremacists sound pretty upfront on a neo Nazi philosophy. Sort of like the Nazis planned in conquered Soviet land less, I hope, the planned “depletions” in population.”

    1.) American white supremacy was around 300 years older than Hitler’s Germany.

    2.) For generations, federal immigration law kept out large numbers of Hispanics and Asians. Their numbers here today are due to a sweeping policy change, the Immigration Act of 1965.

    3.) As I have pointed out to you, 46 percent of blacks no longer live in the South, and mass deportation wasn’t even necessary to remove almost half the black population of the Southern states.

    “WN, however, sound like they propose a racist pipe dream in which expulsions result in a “white” nation.”

    Seeing how Mississippi and South Carolina had a black majority until the 20th century, why is it a racist pipe dream to imagine that blacks would evacuate the Deep South in large numbers? Actually, the notion that Whites would cede control of Atlanta to a black majority for decades sounded even more preposterous as recently as 1955.

    “Leaving aside defining your acceptable Whiteness, only a total kook would ruminate about the possibility of expelling perhaps 125m or more persons.”

    How come?

    Nearly half of blacks no longer live in the South in 2015 and of those who do the vast majority of them no longer live in the old plantation belts. Ever hear of the Great Migration?

    “If WN indeed want a “White” nation the only possible solution is emigration away from the US. The country imagined is absolutely not consistent with the United States formed via the Constitution.”

    The US Constitution itself counted blacks as 3/5ths of a person. A black president was certainly not consistent with the US Constitution as it was originally ratified. The abolition of slavery required a constitutional amendment and was only forced on the South at gunpoint.

    “Any argument to the contrary is lunacy and inaccurate.”

    There was mass expulsions of Hispanics under Eisenhower, a mass exodus of blacks in the 20th century, and Asian immigration was curtailed by the Chinese Exclusion Act and the Gentleman’s Agreement with Japan.

    “Because the number of people actually desiring to leave would be (let’s face it) small, you could actually realistically consider the maybe (?) 50,000 WN and WS in the US emigrating to another land to form your own country. To some extent the Zionist movement would offer a roadmap, although the Zionist leadership was infinitely more capable.”

    Now that I think about it, the Zionist movement offers us a model of the mass evacuation of Jews from Europe. How many countries have Jews been expelled from again? I know they were expelled from England and Spain.

    “Where to locate I have no idea. Didn’t some Confederates attempt to set up emigree communities in South America? I think one even stuck. If I had to make a suggestion of someplace close by I would point to Cuba. The White population of Cuba left in droves during Castro’s time, leaving a dearth of white people. It likely represents the best possible ground floor opportunity for Supremicists and Nationalists. Another possibility in Venezuala, for some similar reasons. To be candid, what other possibilities could exist? Your rhetoric has not exactly won friends and admirers throughout any part of the world.”

    Since there are more blacks in New York than Georgia and Chicago than Mississippi, why do you keep suggesting that mass deportation is impossible? In Mississippi, it was common practice to buy them a bus ticket to Chicago and provide them with information about all the jobs and superior welfare benefits available in Illinois.

    “If the only response you put forward is some nonsense about expelling non whites and seceding, don’t bother.”

    Didn’t we expel the American Indians too from Alabama and Georgia? And didn’t both states secede from the Union before?

    “Further, if you actually believe such a scenario possible it undermines any credibility you desire for your economic commentaries. No one will be interested in the opinions of a crackpot.”

    I’m not the crackpot who believes that black majority rule isn’t anything but an albatross for Birmingham and Atlanta. Oh wait, haven’t you already admitted that too?

  • Warspite

    Junius:

    In addition to your intermittent odd spelling quirks, may I politely suggest you completely ignore the issue of personal responsibility. I am not really sure how much you know about the post-Civil Rights South, but one item you certainly misunderstand is the loss of the Confederate Flag symbol.

    The CSA flag was lost because middle class, educated, respectable Southerners allowed the flag to become a symbol for racists and racism. We were apathetic and failed to pay sufficient attention. By the time a concerted effort by certain forces came about to crush the flag symbol we had already lost the war. The flag had been shorn of its associations with honor and became “owned” by the worst, crudest and most ignoble elements of the South. This comes from someone who never, ever, ever would have believed the CSA flag would disappear from anywhere in the South other than redneck bars and trailer parks.

    On the subject of whites only drinking fountains, something I can actually recall with great shame (can you?), I think you incorrectly understand the desires of your colleagues. In my opinion the majority of WS/WN would be fine with that. How would this influence your opinions on the WN movement?

  • Warspite

    Junius:

    May I ask you refrain from using the term, “negro”? This is not 1965 and you are well aware it is a pejorative term intended to needlessly inflame people. Please help all of us maintain the highest level of decorum.

  • Warspite

    Damn! That Don showed a wit on the rapier side with the “Denises-gender test” comment. Please note I would normally deplore Don’s comment as skirting just barely inside the BGG’s. However, my position on the veracity of the “Denise Character” need not be repeated.

    In addition, Don shot a hat trick on the DNA testing. Might it be possible to set out results in an organized manner? Each poster with his results.

    Not that you would listen, but you might want to be a little less gung-ho, Brad. I know but will not bore you with a story I am aware of involving results received by a certain DAR type in Atlanta. The advantage Don and I have is we don’t care about our results from a eugenics perspective. You, Brad, are well-aware of the extent of miscegenation in the antebellum South depending upon locale. Your colleagues likely do not have that same knowledge. A WS proudly tracing his heritage back to 1810 New Orleans may not be prepared to the possible results of a DNA test.

    In my case I am quite sure I’ll be posting results showing a direct link to Aaron. But if instead signs more likely point to Temujin, so what?

  • FYI, my wife, sister-in-law, father-in-law, mother-in-law and my wife’s nephew have already had the DNA test. All were 100 percent European and the test even conveniently broke down their ethnic ancestry by European sub-region.

  • Warspite

    Brad:

    I’m simply shocked by your reference to the expulsion of Jews. To the extent you think the actions of 13th century England or 15th century Spain in any manner relevant, I am sure you agree they are clearly superseded by those of 17th century England.

    You’re apparent belief that 125m individuals could be expelled from America is irrational. You’re understanding of the Founding Fathers is rudimentary. Even if you relied upon the execrable 3/5 of a man compromise, it gets you nowhere with your drive for racial purity vis a vis Jews. Have you tackled that Jews in 1790 hypothetical yet?

    The only way to achieve what you claim to be your ends is through cherry picking racism and eugenics throughout history. Blacks from 1800 Mississippi. Jews from 1936 Nazi Germany. Hispanics from, I am sad to say, quite recent times. Asians (i.e., Orientals) from the early 1900’s West. Indians from pre-WWII Britain, and so forth. Does not plotting out a dream that very specifically excludes the best aspects of the post Enlightenment West disturb you in the least.

    Might I also add that were I to consider the position of American Blacks regarding your planning, you might have to deal with a few other issues. How precisely is it equitable to steal blacks away from Africa, transport them to the New World in inhuman conditions, place them in involuntary servitude, deny them Civil Rights for 100 years even after the Civil War, and now seek to expel them?!? Would there not be a pretty good argument that historical treatment and conditions demand ceding part of Dixie to blacks before your grand secession? Yes, Brad. Objectively speaking I think this plausible. What states do you propose awarding to blacks? Please not Florida, since you know how we Jews love to retire there.

    Finally, regarding the Dred Scot case, you need to avoid further discussion. It is not about what you have referenced. Please do not embarrass yourself, just concede the point and move on.

  • Warspite

    My turn for what? Certainly, I am aware your results indicate a likelihood of non-European ancestry. But the Greek and East European portions are in the minority. You are still predominately European.

    Or did you think your “Greek” meant heritage from Achilles and Alexander? And your E. European meant Decebalus? While this is certainly not intended towards you, the idea of some white trash celebrating heritage from Plato is nothing if not mildly hysterical.

  • Warspite

    I must ask that you watch the tone of your commentary Celestial. Everyone should be making an effort to engage in meaningful discussion. Please don’t hurt my feelings.

    I’m happy to do the DNA thing. How much does this sort of thing run? I still have a kid at Stanford!

  • RichardBird

    WarSpite
    “except everyone serves some undefinable “white race”.”

    So now anti-White WarSpite is saying there is no such thing as White. Dehumanization is one of the 8 stages of genocide.

    So who does WarSpite and his anti-White pals blame for colonization, slavery and Holocaustin’? How come they only notice when things are too White? Why are only White countries expected to accept third world immigration, until their inhabitants are annihilated as a group? How come anti-Whites like WarSpite only chase White people around?

  • RichardBird

    Warspite // December 8, 2015 at 2:34 am //

    “I must ask that you watch the tone of your commentary Celestial. Everyone should be making an effort to engage in meaningful discussion. Please don’t hurt my feelings.”

    You anti-Whites have no problems “hurting White people’s feelings” when tell us over and over that we do not exist. That is genocide according to UN Law.

  • Warspite

    European, huh? Irish? English? French? Maltese? Polish? Ukrainian? Albanian? Dodecanese?

    Such incredibly embarrassing use of terms. You best stick to your fields, maybe.

    I remember this picture of Jesus a friend of mine in college from Jacksonville had in his dorm room. His Jesus was blonde with blue eyes. A friend of mine in grad school from Ga. had a pic of Jesus in which he was Black. Personally, I figure him along Semitic lines. Guess many of us see the world in a rather inaccurate manner that suits our needs.

  • Warspite,

    “Brad:

    I’m simply shocked by your reference to the expulsion of Jews. To the extent you think the actions of 13th century England or 15th century Spain in any manner relevant, I am sure you agree they are clearly superseded by those of 17th century England.”

    How come?

    Jews have been expelled from many countries throughout history. The Jewish people have migrated from place to place. We have this on the authority of your own Torah. The great concentration of Jews in the New York area, or their current presence in Israel, illustrates how easy it was to remove large numbers of Jews from one country to another. Thus, it is quite comical in light of the history of your own people that you are here tut-tutting about mass expulsions. Does it being back had memories?

    “You’re apparent belief that 125m individuals could be expelled from America is irrational. You’re understanding of the Founding Fathers is rudimentary. Even if you relied upon the execrable 3/5 of a man compromise, it gets you nowhere with your drive for racial purity vis a vis Jews. Have you tackled that Jews in 1790 hypothetical yet?”

    Is that so?

    As I pointed out to you, the negro question was addressed by the Founding Fathers. For the purposes of determining representation in the US Congress, blacks were to be counted under the US Constitution in the ratio of 3/5ths of a person and fugitive slaves were to be returned to their masters. Among other things, black immigrants were disqualified from becoming naturalized US citizens under the Nationalization Act of 1790. Jefferson, Madison and Monroe supported their deportation to Africa with Madison serving as the president of the American Colonization Society.

    “it gets you nowhere with your drive for racial purity vis a vis Jews. Have you tackled that Jews in 1790 hypothetical yet?”

    In 1790, the ancestors of the Jews would cause so many problems for the United States in the 20th century were still in Europe. Their ambitions were strictly limited by their ghettoization at that time.

    “The only way to achieve what you claim to be your ends is through cherry picking racism and eugenics throughout history. Blacks from 1800 Mississippi. Jews from 1936 Nazi Germany. Hispanics from, I am sad to say, quite recent times. Asians (i.e., Orientals) from the early 1900’s West. Indians from pre-WWII Britain, and so forth.”

    As a Jew, you should know better than anyone that mass expulsions and restrictions upon so-called universal rights have been commonplace across European history.

    “Does not plotting out a dream that very specifically excludes the best aspects of the post Enlightenment West disturb you in the least.”

    No, actually it doesn’t.

    Obviously, I don’t agree with any number of theories conjured into existence by the idiot savants of the Enlightenment.

    “Might I also add that were I to consider the position of American Blacks regarding your planning, you might have to deal with a few other issues. How precisely is it equitable to steal blacks away from Africa, transport them to the New World in inhuman conditions, place them in involuntary servitude, deny them Civil Rights for 100 years even after the Civil War, and now seek to expel them?!?”

    In West Africa and Central Africa, the blacks were enslaved and sold as property according to their own laws and customs. Centuries later, Western Europeans, not Africans, came up with the idea that there was something intrinsically immoral about slavery. The Royal Navy suppressed the slave trade and it was European colonization that suppressed slavery, an African custom from Cairo to the Cape, in sub-Saharan Africa.

    As for the resettlement of blacks in Africa, Liberia and Sierra Leone were founded for that purpose. Among other countries, I know that Ghana offers dual citizenship to American blacks. Finally, if it was a great crime to abduct blacks from Africa, then returning them there corrects that great injustice.

    “Would there not be a pretty good argument that historical treatment and conditions demand ceding part of Dixie to blacks before your grand secession? Yes, Brad. Objectively speaking I think this plausible.”

    I don’t think so.

    Blacks are already leaving the Mississippi Delta and the Alabama Black Belt. They have been leaving for a century now.

    “What states do you propose awarding to blacks? Please not Florida, since you know how we Jews love to retire there.”

    Vermont would be a good candidate.

    “Finally, regarding the Dred Scot case, you need to avoid further discussion. It is not about what you have referenced. Please do not embarrass yourself, just concede the point and move on. “

    The Dred Scott case established that blacks were not American citizens and that slaveowners were free to enter any of the territories with their slave property. It took the 14th and 15th Amendments to change their constitutional status.

  • Junius Daniel

    ‘To be perfectly honest, I am a Christian in spite of the American churches which have spent the last century tailoring their theology to embrace one fashionable secular liberal cause after another. There’s a lot about American Christianity that I dislike, but because I have a greater understanding of how it has evolved over time, I don’t blame Christianity for the direction it has taken in the US over the last several decades.’

    Sir, it’s hard to get a religion or denomination that has not pickt up the flavour of where it resides.

    Even Orthodoxy, the most stubborn and unchanging, has specifick nationalist flavours.

    That said, Sir, there is nothing about Orthodoxy that reflect anything of the last decades of this country – NOTHING.

  • Junius Daniel

    Gentlemen :

    I see alot here about DNA tests.

    Y’all place a lot of faith that science can thoroughly and properly analyze traits in blood.

    If there is one thing that science, and, in particular, fields preoccupied with human development – such as Behaviorial Embriology- have shown is that very little is clear, and what is …

    KEEPS CHANGING.

    For now the most reliable science will continue to be that of ancient Greek observation and deduction …

    IF IT SMELLS LIKE A DUCK, it is a duck.

  • RichardBird

    “As I pointed out to you, the negro question was addressed by the Founding Fathers. For the purposes of determining representation in the US Congress, blacks were to be counted under the US Constitution in the ratio of 3/5ths of a person ”

    The Preamble to the US Constitution is addressed to Whites and their Posterity and no one else.

    “We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty TO OURSELVES AND OUR POSTERITY, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

    Doesn’t matter who vandalized it later, they made very clear what they meant. No one founds a country for other peoples.

  • RichardBird

    WarSpite sez:
    “Your use of language such as “Muzzies” and sketchy references to Jews either violate or come very close to violating the BGG. Please drop use of pejoratives and cooperate in elevating the debate and discussion.”

    WarSpite sez:
    ” Jews from 1936 Nazi Germany.”

    You can’t complain that pejoratives like “Muzzies”, “nigger” or “kike” break the rules and then use a pejoratives like “Nazi”. The correct name for them is National Socialist or NSDAP.

  • Warspite

    Richard:

    I want to try and put this in a polite manner, but your comment made no sense. I also think it reads in a rather embarrassing and whining tone. Is that what you meant? It couldn’t have been.

  • Warspite

    Junius:

    Your statement is silly. One of the leading clergy associated with the Civil Rights movement was a very prominent Orthodox clergyman.

    I understand and appreciate your point. In most respects the various Orthodox denominations have been generations behind other American churches. But you fail to pinpoint the cause for the ossification. In addition to stemming from the least enlightened and advanced areas of Europe, with the exception of the Greek Orthodox Church the other sister denominations found themselves broken on the wheel of Communism for over 40 years.

    While your point is well-taken it cannot be understood in a factual vacuum.

  • Sam

    Warspite
    Sam: Your use of language such as “Muzzies” and sketchy references to Jews either violate or come very close to violating the BGG.’

    Who died and put you in charge? Muzzies and the insane doctrines of Islam are not worthy of respect.

    Spite
    ‘However, I can educate you on one point where you likely have limited experience. Most Jews have another name for so called “Messianic Jews”. We call them Christians.’

    Well, jews who believe in Jesus as their Messiah call themselves Messianic jews or completed jews.

    ‘Messianic Judaism is a Biblically based movement of people who, as committed Jews, believe in Yeshua (Jesus) as the Jewish Messiah of Israel of whom the Jewish Law and Prophets spoke.’

    http://www.mjaa.org/site/PageServer?pagename=rd_messianicmovement_messianic_judaism

    As for my limited knowledge?

    For several decades I was a fervent Christian. Been to Israel more than once, stood atop Masada, walked the Via Dolorosa, prayed at the Western Wall, traversed the Galilee, floated on the salt sea, hiked the hills of Qumran, studied Hebrew over a year with a Rabbi’s wife and could read O.T. texts fairly well without vowel pointers. No mean feat for a goy.

    I attended Seder services in The States and in Israel in a ministry facility located on the Mount of Olives which belonged to a friend of mine who was at one time a personal body guard assigned to David Ben-Gurion.

    My library was filled with concordances, Greek/Hebrew lexicons and theological reference books written by multitudes of authors.

    You presume to know my motivations and what makes me tick. You don’t have a clue. Let’s just leave it at that.

  • RichardBird

    Warspite // December 8, 2015 at 3:12 am //

    Richard:

    “I want to try and put this in a polite manner, but your comment made no sense. I also think it reads in a rather embarrassing and whining tone. Is that what you meant? It couldn’t have been.”

    As usual you have nothing to say. lol

    Why anyone takes anti-White morons seriously, I do not understand. Can anyone explain it to me?

  • RichardBird

    Junius Daniel // December 8, 2015 at 2:57 am //
    “I see alot here about DNA tests.”

    If you are intellectually curious, read up on separated Twins Studies. They found separated twins ended up leading almost identical lives, regardless of their differing upbringings. God works in mysterious ways Junius.

    I believe WarSpite like other anti-Whites was born to be sneaky, underhanded and to wage war on Whites. He can’t help being anti-White, because he was made that way. Makes all our discussions with him pointless, don’t ya think?

  • Wow Sam – what turned you around?

  • Warspite

    Dick:

    Sir, as someone included within the language you cite- and I appreciate your support, I am struggling to try and understand your position. I recognize you are handicapped by a lack of knowledge in both law and history, but I want to be as fair as possible.

    Do you believe the few words you choose to generally cite out of context limit the Bill of Rights to just those signing and their descendants? (I’m focusing just on the Bill of Rights for the sake of ease). Don’t you think that’s a pretty limited number? May I presume that is not what you are doing? May I instead presume you and the other Supremacists believe the blessings are bestowed on the group of people the Founding Fathers had in mind? Is this what you believe?

    It’s not fair to attack your position based on principles of American Law. In that area you are an unarmed individual. But I strongly suggest you try and get enough courage to tackle my still outstanding and unanswered 1790 Hypothetical.

  • Warspite

    Junius:

    Did the Ancient Greeks really reach such profound conclusions based upon the conduct of ducks? Who knew!

    Really, I want to thank you for your illuminating post. In addition to the duck thing an analysis of the words, language and syntax is revealing. Can we agree the “programming” we receive from such a young age on how to write and speak creates its own sort of DNA-like patterns? As hard as I might choose to try, unless I care to be constantly vigilant my postings must sometimes reveal signs of a rather average Kentucky public school education. All the years at Vanderbilt, et. al. as well as a lifetime of experience cannot change the fact the best HS in Jefferson County is a far cry from Eton or Charterhouse.

    In your case, your posting will prove truly revealing on the “real” Junius. And what’s wrong with that!

  • Warspite

    Sam:

    I note and am sorry for your loss. Nevertheless, the BGG’s are not mine. I adhere to the guidelines, as should you. Your travels through the Holyland have no bearing on disrespecting Brad’s guidelines. Since Brad asks little you ought to find compliance simple.

    You are wrong about most things you write. Please do not consider this a threat, for it is not. You and other Supremacists and Nationalists blow the lid off Jewish control of the US and remaining world, yet you believe posting under a pseudonym provides some sort of anonymity. Does that sound logical and reasonable, Sam? Why would you presume everything about you is not well known?

    Sorry to respectfully disagree on the Messianic Jews thing. They are Christians. In the rational world we call people who accept Jesus as the son of G-d and prophecized Messiah, “Christians”. That works for me and I find no imperative to prop up whatever family and psychological problems motivate so-called “Messianic Jews”. This is America and as long as they leave me alone while they do their thing, that’s peachy keen.

    I will not disrespect you by pointing out in too obvious a manner the flaw in using “Biblically based” to justify the rationality of beliefs. Setting aside language and translation problems, there is human frailty (i.e., stupidity). I once actually saw with my own two eyes several persons at an E. Ky. church handle snakes. It’s Biblically based, Sam.

  • Warspite

    Richard:

    I must again object to your conduct. “Twin Studies”? You should be ashamed. How dare you introduce such discredited drivel to your colleagues. I do not know your motivations but you should at least be public that you are pursuing an Agenda.

    As a white person, I am struggling to try and classify your use of “white”. My conclusion has been and must remain all evidence is that White Supremacists and White Nationalists reject the Enlightenment. No other conclusion is possible. I regret to state that in this belief you seem in accord with those you call, “Muzzies”.

    It’s really just another form of extremes on each side circling around and meeting.

  • Junius Daniel

    @Warspite…

    ‘Junius:

    Your statement is silly. One of the leading clergy associated with the Civil Rights movement was a very prominent Orthodox clergyman.’

    Warspite,

    I notice you have a predilection regarding every opinion but your own as ‘silly’

    And so it is perfectly consistent that you, a secular humanitarian, are going to teach me, a practitioner of Orthodoxy, about Orthodoxy – this after you ran to your references, praying to find one exception in a thousand.

  • Junius Daniel

    ‘If you are intellectually curious, read up on separated Twins Studies. They found separated twins ended up leading almost identical lives, regardless of their differing upbringings. God works in mysterious ways Junius.’

    I don’t have to, Warpsite – my uncle was considered to be the leading expert in human development in the world.

    And he warned me about how those, who wish to appear authoritative, and have that authority imputed to their methodologies, exploit ‘articles’ and ‘studies’ to convey their illusions about human development.

    You don’t know, but, we know how such sits with you.

  • Junius Daniel

    Sir, I’m sorry, will you please delete my former comment. I misread it!

    Thank you!

  • Bernie Sanders, a Jew, is now sputtering and whining about Trump being mean to. Some swarthy, heavily accented Arab, who is a member is CAIR, is on MSNBC, calling for the GOP to denounce Trump and it’s bad, and Muslims are great, and “Amereeka eez duh lan’ of eemeegrints”.

    Now, some legal Jew is howling about how barring feral, violent, predatory racial aliens from destroying America is “unconstitutional”. He just invoked “Germany”

    Comedy gelte.

  • Warspite

    I have a distaste for Eugenics, true. But I have no problem with being wrong. Please provide me with a correct citation such as will lead me to your uncle’s study.

    On Orthodoxy. I don’t want to get into this too much since it was your faith. My knowledge of the Orthodox Churches comes out of what I had to learn & had to do during the Cold War. In fact, when Xmas comes up I always remember attending a service for the holiday at a Serbian Orthodox Church in Manhattan. Not to mention the headaches of running into Russian Orthodox adherents who were part of the group adhering to the Julian Calendar. I’m sure you can relate (Christmas? What do you mean Christmas? It’s the second week in January!!)

    You grew up in it & lived it. You know the Orthodox Church on a level I never could or can. But, and I’m really saying this in an amicable manner, I do genuinely know something of it.