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  1. I can’t even f**king watch – it makes my blood boil to to this non-white illegal alien in my country. GO HOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  2. If people got ticked off over an incredibly boring 2000 page health care bill, just imagine how furious they must be now with President Hussein, Mmm, Mmm, Mmm, shoving queers into the military and dismantling it with START. If any of those independents and bluedogs who voted for him in 2008 because they thought he was a “safe” negro were still sitting on the fence, I doubt they are anymore. There’s also much to be gained in making those who were already against him hate him even more. We want for there to be more than a vague dislike, rather that in tens of millions of households white men curse at the magic negro every time his face is shoved before us on the TV screen. One could say the health care bill was misguided, but this is an out and out declaration of war on traditional America.

  3. I remember when Clinton pushed “Don’t ask, don’t tell” when he was first elected back in ’92. I was LIVID! I wasn’t angry because homos would be in the military. I was angry because I knew it was just a stepping stone to allowing OPEN homosexuality in the military. I don’t care if homos are in the military or not. But they should be discrete and keep it to themselves. The problem will be the same as everywhere else. They say it’s no one’s business what they do in the privacy of their own bedroom. And then they shove it in everyone’s face. I don’t care if someone is a homo. I just don’t want it shoved in my face.

  4. Solutrean Social Club: How many European militaries are serious fighting forces? And do the serious ones put homos in the infantry, or in an office somewhere?

  5. What is the agenda of the gays? Marriage is of course out there; but it is likely to be hung up in the legal system for years. What will they go for next? No one I ask this question to ever has much of an answer.
    One thing I would guess is that they will make principled arguments that see homosexuality as problematic for a society and the fact that such thoughts have been with humans for a very, very long time..well they will make all this hate speech.
    How tired I am of running into people who say “hay, it doesn’t brother me.? If they had a brain it might.

  6. At the onset of the homosexual agenda “the camel’s nose under the tent” appeal was “what people do behind closed doors is no one’s business”. Since then it’s been the homosexual’s life style crammed downed every one’s throat and in your face and up your ass if the homo’s can get it there.
    The repeal of the DADT in the Armed Forces is an event of apocalyptic dimensions. We shall all pay the price and it won’t be cheap.

  7. Discard: “Solutrean Social Club: How many European militaries are serious fighting forces? And do the serious ones put homos in the infantry, or in an office somewhere?”

    I don’t know where European militaries place homosexual soldiers, but I agree that the situation between them and us is probably not equivalent.

  8. What me worried says: What is the agenda of the gays?

    The ultimate agenda of homosexuals is legalizing sex with children.

  9. “The ultimate agenda of homosexuals is legalizing sex with children.”

    I don’t believe this is true. Homosexuality and pedophilia are not the same thing, although there is undoubtedly a higher percentage of pedos amongst homosexual men than otherwise. What homos want is normalcy, which is something they will never attain, and hence they will never be at peace with the broader society around them.

  10. Open homosexuality in the military is just one aspect of the larger progressive agenda of destroying and leveling all social institutions. Plenty of articles have been written about the subject lately.

  11. Since some of you folks have a real objection to homos, how exactly would you handle the situation? I’m not even talking about the military. I’m just talking about overall. If you don’t like them then that’s your opinion and you’re certainly entitled to it. But from a purely practical standpoint, not liking homos isn’t a policy. So what should be the policy towards them? Do you want to beat them up? Keep them from having jobs? Heck, even if you killed them all they wouldn’t go away. In another generation they’d just come back. They’ve always been around and always will be. So what is it that you want to do with them?

  12. Hunter writes, Open homosexuality in the military is just one aspect of the larger progressive agenda of destroying and leveling all social institutions. Plenty of articles have been written about the subject lately.

    I’m as disgusted by the “progressive” agenda as you are. But I’m not convinced that “progressives” are really causing the situation. Now, I’m not saying “progressives” aren’t a problem. What I am saying is that rather than being the cause “progressives” may actually be the result of trends that started a long time ago. And you can’t cure a disease by treating the symptoms. You have to go after the cause.

    There was a book that was recently republished titled “Family and Civilization”. It was written by a Harvard professor back in the 1930s. And he lays out a very convincing argument for why everything is going to hell. It’s the result of the kind of civilization we have created. The nature of our civilization is affecting the nature of our families. And this has resulted in more degeneracy, including falling birth rates, divorce, teen pregnancy, illegitimacy, etc. And the amazing thing is that all of it was predicted in this book written 80 years ago.

  13. Fred: Every society that I’ve ever heard of recognized that homos are a group that bears watching. Even the ancient Greeks despised willing cum-catchers. Athenian “homosexuality” was a brutal teasing game where beardless boys were forced to play female roles, but definitely not let themselves be penetrated. The Thebans put them in a separate fighting unit, the “Lovers Phalanx” or something like that, and made them an elite. But no civilization I’ve ever heard of has ever pretended that it was a matter of no importance, that fags were just like everyone else.
    Think of it. Any healthy society, that is, one that intends to replicate itself, wants its children to breed, and their children’s children too. In dangerous times, parents willingly sacrifice themselves to protect their offspring. Even in a safe society like ours they go to a whole lot of trouble to raise children, and yet we should be indifferent to our children’s children? Be wholly accepting of a rejection of family continuation? And no, mockeries of family like fag “marriage”, sperm donors for lesbians, or adoption by queers are no substitute for normal, biological families. This doesn’t mean that we have to beat up all the queers, but it does require a reasonable suspicion of them. (Yes, it’s true that they are horny for adolescents, they are to pedophllia what Blacks are to homicide.) So, if they mind their manners and know their place, we don’t fuck with them. This is how most societies have dealt with the problem. If they wish to rise up against normal families and normal society, then they will be fucked with, deservedly so. Big time.

  14. Fred, I have a problem with ascendant homosexual culture. Don’t Ask Don’t Tell suited me alright. Gays going about their own affairs in moderately discreet fashion is generally okay with me. Even civil unions suit me fine. Gays have entered a hostile stage in their evolution. In many ways they remind me of Jews. About the same percentiles of the population, affluent, and spoiling for a fight.

  15. Discard-
    Everything you said was true. But society isn’t going to collapse because of homos. AIDs may be contagious but buggery isn’t. They’re only 2-3% of the population. That’s all they’ve ever been and that’s all they’ll ever be. So why weren’t they a problem a hundred years ago?

    The only thing that’s different about homos today is that they’re out of control. But they aren’t the only ones out of control. Have you taken a look at the birth rate, divorce, illegitimacy, teen pregnancy and promiscuity? They didn’t cause all that. And most of them aren’t any worse than anyone else. The problem is that the nature of our civilization has reached a point that it’s undermining the family. You can blame homos all you want. But it’s not going to make any difference. What we need to do is fix civilization and the family. If we fix that then homos won’t even be an issue.

    By the way, the book I mentioned “Family and Civilization” actually discusses Greece and Rome and says that we’re collapsing for the same reason they did. Aggressive homosexuality was a symptom of their collapse the same way its a symptom of ours. Notice, however, that it was a symptom. It wasn’t the cause. Fix the cause and the symptoms go away.

  16. SSC-

    Then we agree. Realize that I’m not arguing in favor of homosexuality. I don’t even know any right now. That I know of. The point that I’m trying to get across is that we’re shooting at the wrong target. If we had a healthy family and civilization then homos wouldn’t be a problem, jews wouldn’t be a problem, immigration, illegitimacy, divorce, etc None of those would be a problem. None of those were a problem a hundred years ago.

  17. fred: I agree completely. Fags are a symptom, not the problem itself.
    I once read a libertarian who wrote that poverty needed no explaining, wealth did. Poverty was the norm, and wealth was something that was created by enormous effort. The same is true of civilization. Sit on your ass, let kids do no work and run wild, and you get poverty and barbarism. Every generation of selfish little brats has to be taught how to act, or they go feral. Why would they do otherwise? What kid wants to get up at the crack of dawn and start banging rocks together? But if you want to live indoors and eat regularly, that’s what has to happen. We have been tolerant of ways that cannot sustain even a medieval way of life, let alone civic order and a modern standard of living, and we’re going to pay.

  18. I’ve had this argument with Robert Campbell before.

    (1) I think homosexuals should be excluded from the military.

    (2) I do not support gay marriage.

    (3) I do not support gay pride parades or the whole identity that has been created around homosexuality.

    (4) I don’t think homosexuality is something to be proud of or something that should be promoted as an arrangement on par with traditional marriage.

    At the same time …

    (1) I accept the fact that homosexuals invariably exist in every society.

    (2) I do not believe in persecuting them.

    (3) I would prefer to return to the status quo before the “gay rights” revolution.

  19. fred,

    Progressives were definitely the driving force behind “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” repeal and fighting Proposition 8 in the federal courts. Unless there was some great groundswell of support for this amongst conservatives that I haven’t seen.

  20. Progressives also see “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” repeal as a bullet point that is only part of a larger agenda which includes the DREAM Act and forcing gay marriage on America.

  21. Hunter-

    I agree with every point with a minor exception on the first one about military. I already gave my opinion on that. Still, we agree on 6.5 out of 7 points. Which is pretty good.

  22. Hunter writes, Progressives also see “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” repeal as a bullet point that is only part of a larger agenda which includes the DREAM Act and forcing gay marriage on America.

    Yeah. I know. That was my objection to DADT. I thought the actual policy was ok. But I knew it was part of a larger agenda and I didn’t like that. It goes without saying I’m against the DREAM Act and gay marriage. I’m alright with civil unions which, in my opinion, is nothing more than a legal contract. And everyone should be entitled to draw up a legal contract.

    I’ve argued with homos about gay marriage before. And they always try to push it as some kind of “civil rights” baloney.

    I always say, “Excuse me. But aren’t you guys for separation of church and state? And now you want the government to ratify your relationship? Isn’t that a religious function?”

    To which they respond, “Yeah, but the government recognizes your marriage.”

    To which I respond, “I wish they wouldn’t. Because I didn’t see anything in the constitution giving government the right to preside over my marriage!”

  23. Fred,

    You are reducing everything down to abstractions with your line of reasoning. This is a serious mistake and most likely the chief reason we now find ourselves in much the same position as a man stranded on a low and narrow island facing an oncoming tidal wave.

    You stated, for example, that Progressives are not the problem, but rather only a symptom, and you go on to speak of such things as “trends…kinds” and the “nature” of “civilization.” But look closer and consider what you are doing here: You are getting away from specific detail and instead turning to vague generalization.

    Civilizations and families are composed of real, living, breathing human beings with names and faces, passions and personalities, desires and visions of what they want of the future. Civilizations and families are not simply faceless abstractions guided only by whichever way the wind happens to be blowing at a given time. Likewise, our problems and the people who have brought these on and continue to push for more of the same are not merely a vague collection of abstractions. No, they, too, are real and have names and personalities, along with specific ideas and a detailed vision of what they want of the future.

    Whenever one begins to drift away from specific information such as naming people, describing in detail their actions and the doctrines that shape these actions, and instead begins to only deal with abstractions, then you can lose your bearings and become easier to confuse and eventually overcome.

  24. Gays: You mean we are allowed to go out here in combat lay our lives on the line, bleed, die for this country and you hets, but we are not allowed to blah, blah, blah, blah? What hypocrits you blah blah blah are. We gays and my supporters, i.e. Jews, Jew organizatons, democrats, ACLU, SCLC, ADL, etc. we will see you in our jew controlled courts.
    Everyone Else: Forgetaboutit.

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