New York Observer: “The New Doom”

If the handwringing in the below is true, it means stories like that of Tracy Hedgepath and Austen Minter will soon be over. It means we’ll have a serious economy again, with local production overseen by local people. A girl like Tracy Hedgepath will be part of a community that likewise oversees her, and a disgusting animal like Austen Minter will not be allowed anywhere near white girls.

Back in the 1990’s I worked in NYC for 6 months and had a few passing acquaintances with Wall Street types, the guys who whore blue shirts with white collars. I told them my theory about their blue shirts with white collars is that those are gang colors that mean “white collar” crime. After all, a blue shirt with a white collar emphasizes the “white collar” of the shirt, right?

I also floated my theory that the economic growth system is unsustainable, and that the high tech boom would run its course in a few years. I didn’t even know about peak oil at the time. I had just seen enough boom and bust in my lifetime.

The Wall Streeters at the time, 1996, would say that the high tech boom is going to last for decades. Vorsprung durch Technik (advance through Technology) was back with a vengeance. Energy will be made out of air, there will be more than enough for everyone.

In the 2000’s, they were saying we can import immigrants and print money and build houses for permanent prosperity. Even if the radical high tech future isn’t here, economic growth must continue. Economic growth must continue . . .

Now they are singing a new song. My dear readers, however bad things get in the coming years, rejoice, for all the chaos and poverty will at least mean one thing — the end of race-mixing, the end of the mandatory diversity religion, the end of so much whacky and harmful nonsense being imposed on us by sinecured, tenured ivory tower types who have no business telling us what to do or how to live. All Hail the New Doom!

The New Doom

By Max Abelson
July 13, 2010 | 9:25 p.m

“Life is such a fucking disaster,” a prominent New York hedge fund manager said recently. “We all live in some kind of world we create for ourselves. And I think that what happened is that built into that world were very enlarged expectations about what life was going to be. There’s been this sensation of excessive expectation that, frankly, became unsustainable.”

He had just returned from his ranch in the wilderness of central Idaho. “I just like it because it’s massively low human density. It would be a place you could hole up in. But, gosh, I hope that doesn’t happen.”

Last week, not very far from the hedge fund manager’s ranch, the billionaire John Malone gave a little-noticed interview to The Wall Street Journal from Allen & Co.’s annual Sun Valley conference. Asked about the biggest risks to Liberty, his media conglomerate, Mr. Malone said his concern was this country’s survival. “We have a retreat that’s right on the Quebec border. We own 18 miles on the border, so we can cross. Anytime we want to, we can get away.”

His wife is more concerned: She’s already moved her personal cash to Australia and Canada. “She wants to have a place to go,” said Mr. Malone, No. 400 on this year’s Forbes list of the richest people in the world, “if things blow up here.”

Before the financial crisis, furious pessimism about the national economy started with a small and mostly scholarly group of doomsayers, like N.Y.U.’s Nouriel Roubini and Yale’s Robert Shiller. But that pessimism has now gone mainstream, spreading from wonks in finance to the city’s daily conversation as last year’s rebound drifts further away. Growth is slow; unemployment is enormous; the world feels sludgy. It won’t help if banks post withered profits later this week, as they’re expected to.

‘Humans have this poignant desire to feel that we’re in control,’ a prominent New York City hedge fund manager said.

Part of what makes this second wave of gloom different is the sense that the rot isn’t going anywhere. You read through The Times and worry that the country will sink into a third depression-Paul Krugman said a few weeks ago that it already has-unless the U.S. government does something serious. But then you think about where money for another stimulus would come from, and what will happen if trillion-dollar deficits get worse.

“I think that a lot of people are becoming realistic over the outlook, because let’s face facts,” said David Rosenberg, the chief economist and strategist at the investment firm Gluskin Sheff. “It’s going to leave some pretty deep emotional scars, don’t you think?”

Still, optimism lives. After this month’s Times profile of Robert Prechter, the forecaster who says we’ve begun the worst market decline in something like 300 years, Mr. Krugman’s colleague Ross Douthat used his Independence Day column to complain about worrywarts. If Jimmy Carter was wrong about shortages, grim sacrifice and an energy emergency, he said, the new pessimists are, too.

HUMANS HAVE THIS poignant desire to feel that we’re in control,” the hedge fund manager said. “I know there will be abrupt change.”

“We have Ben Bernanke, who has figured it all out; but you and I know he’s just guessing,” said Mr. Shiller, the Yale professor. The first edition of his book Irrational Exuberance warned in 2000 about a stock market bubble, and the second edition in 2005 predicted the real estate collapse. “When you see something like the BP oil spill, you know we’re just plunging headlong into the future without knowing what we’re doing.”

“If you’ve got job security and wealth preservation under lethal pressure, then you’re going to take the negativism into a place that it hasn’t been before,” Stephen Roach, Morgan Stanley’s non-executive Asia chairman and the firm’s former chief economist, said. “TARP, zero interest rates, trillion-dollar budget deficits, you name it, we’ve thrown anything we can at the system. And that has been successful to a limited extent at stopping the bleeding, but it has not really allowed the patient to get up off the table and resume a normal life again.”

One problem is that there isn’t a consensus about what our catastrophes are, or how they can be fixed. Mr. Roach and Mr. Krugman, for example, have feuded this year over China. (One said a baseball bat should be taken to the other.) This week, Lloyd’s of London and the monolithic English think tank Chatham House warned about peak oil, the semi-apocalyptic moment when the world’s oil production will max out and then decline. Not preparing for the new energy realty, they say, will have “potentially catastrophic consequences.”

On Friday, just before that report was published, the blog Zero Hedge, a kind of global hub for catastrophists, posted a “wall of worry.” The American government, said the first of 50 factoids about the economy, is projected to issue about the same debt this year as the other governments of the world combined.

“Few appreciated that the shift would be as deeply structural as it was demonstrated to be,” the site’s editor, who writes pseudonymously as Tyler Durden, said in an email. “With trillions of dollars spent to prevent an all-out economic collapse we have only managed to buy under two years of time and the economy is once again starting to roll over.”

The hedge fund manager said he doesn’t even trust gold. “It’s worthless if the social fabric tears,” he said. “We’re going to have to do something different, before we get down to where it’s really bad.”

  • Earl Pitts Sr.

    “There goes the neighborhood” is as true a statement now as it was 50 years ago.

    Real estate prices may never recover!

    Section-8 only adds fuel to the fire. See what a Section-8 apartment building does to the surrounding White community real estate values.

    It’s not just Blacks, it’s also Latinos, and all the various riff raff of Asia & the Orient too. White folks, who may swear up and down that they are not racist—move out and sell at a discount. There goes the real estate value. Down, down, down…

    That said, I expect a jobless recovery. There is NOTHING else for most people to invest in except the stock market.

    Earl

  • Jay

    “…however bad things get in the coming years, rejoice, for all the chaos and poverty will at least mean one thing — the end of race-mixing, the end of the mandatory diversity religion, the end of so much whacky and harmful nonsense being imposed on us by sinecured, tenured ivory tower types who have no business telling us what to do or how to live. All Hail the New Doom!”

    I’ve often wondered just how a major social catastrophe translates into a new era of freedom of association, and it seems to me that we could do some study of the “prison model.” While prisons forcibly integrate inmates, the inmates separate with a vengeance along demographic lines.

    It could be that the stresses & tensions that apply to prisoners will apply to the population at large with the same fault lines expressing themselves countrywide.

  • Simmons

    If no one wants to waste their time on a peak oil website I can tell you that most of the effite libs there have no faith in “Diversity”, but of course they couch that in delicate language so as to not send the emotional cripples of the Left into an emotional fit.

    The Left is a sad collection of losers with college degrees who believe in more fantasies and lies than a psychopath D&D player, they are nothing.

    Once we turn the white herd around from their stampede, and they learn not to fear the “racist” word weapon, “diversity” will join other leftist nonsense in the ash bin of forgotten lefty atrocities.

  • Kievsky

    Jay,

    Multiculturalism is very expensive, high maintenance social engineering. It will fail when they can’t pay for it any more. For example, when public schools go out of business, white kids will get educated in neighborhood, home schools and blacks and Latinos will go totally illiterate and feral, if they don’t starve to death outright.

    It will be the social conditions of the early 20th century again. No one will be pushing multiculturalism with the threat of yanking purse strings (that no longer exist). Multiculturalism is a costly charade and it depends on an infinite growth economy.

    With economic contraction, we’ll return to our natural, racially segregated state of Nature.

  • HelenChicago

    Kievsky said: “With economic contraction, we’ll return to our natural, racially segregated state of Nature.”

    When do you expect this to occur? Within our lifetimes, or more than a century in the future?

  • Bob

    Kievsky said: “With economic contraction, we’ll return to our natural, racially segregated state of Nature.”

    Or we’ll become a vaguely mixed race, vaguely third world mess like the ex-Roman Empire.

  • Discard

    “Or we’ll become a vaguely mixed race, vaguely third world mess like the ex-Roman Empire.”

    I don’t know about that. The survival of hundreds of millions in the First World is dependent on the continued functioning of systems that Darks cannot maintain. De-Whitening means mass starvation. When the Romans withdrew from Britain, the average Briton continued to plow as he always had. But when the dollar evaporates, will the average American continue to sell Chinese-made shoes as he always has?

  • Jackson

    It could go a lot of ways.

    Some parts of the country may go one way, and other parts another. It’s really hard to say. Hell the system could right itself still. There are hundreds of millions of people with some sort of vested interest in the status quo. That’s a significant anti-entropic force.

    I think places like California are so race-mixed already that it’s unlikely that anything will reverse that.

  • Discard

    Jackson: Ponzi, or pyramid schemes don’t right themselves, they collapse. The hundreds of millions of people who are invested in this economy won’t get their money back. The only ones who gain from a Ponzi economy are those who withdraw their money in time and put it elsewhere, like the hedge fund manager and the billionaire described in the article.
    As for California and other diversity infested parts of the country, as I wrote above, the Darks cannot maintain White technology, or support themselves without it. Just as the government’s power is largely in its ability to give or withhold money, Whites have it in our power to give or withhold water, electricity, fuel, and electronic communication, just for a start. As a race, we hold all the cards.

  • TabuLa Raza

    “the guys who whore blue shirts with white collars.”

  • Nightowl

    But even California, are the non-whites peasants who farm the land? No they are clustered in the big cities where they don’t have very deep roots. A lot of these people use some of their money to invest in fancy homes back in their native countries and have backup plans to go home worse comes to worse. I worked with a Cambodian who always prophesized doom and gloom and told me how he was going to fill out every single one of those annoying junk mail Credit Card applications and max them all out buying diamonds and then just take off to Cambodia with lots of money he never plans on paying back. These colonies of minorities in the big cities are unsustainable and live off excess money created by whites. White people own the ranches and large tracts of land out on the West Coast. The minorities and liberals are recent interlopers with few ties to the local communities and will go back to where they came from when times get really tough.

    Multiculturalism in America is a horse of a different color from that in Ancient Rome. In Rome the Emperor never made the Barbarians a privileged class with priority in jobs, education, legal disputes. They were slaves and the Roman men were still in charge. The demographic change took centuries, not twenty years. The Barbarian were also there to provide sex on demand for their Roman masters. They would never let a Roman Boy who went to the university to get an engineering degree step aside and let Jose get the job that rightfully should go to the citizen.

  • Biased Observer

    “Darks cannot maintain White technology, or support themselves without it. Just as the government’s power is largely in its ability to give or withhold money, Whites have it in our power to give or withhold water, electricity, fuel, and electronic communication, just for a start. As a race, we hold all the cards.”

    There are differences even among “darks” and they are not all the same. If you mean blacks, then I would have to agree with you. If you are including all Asians or Orientals in that group as well, then perhaps you are being too inclusive. Some Asians especially Chinese and Japanese are very intelligent (as a matter of fact their IQ’s have been shown to be at least 5 points higher than that of Whites; of course this refers to an IQ averaged for each group and the averages compared). Besides, the technology is “out there”- it is not like it is secret and held only by Whites. What the Orientals don’t seem to have as much of as Whites is the “innovative” or creative nature that we do. But they can invent new technology from old when circumstances necessitate it, though they would much rather take existing tecnology and copy it.
    Peak Oil, mentioned above, will be a gradual decline in supply, not a “fall off the cliff” catastrophic event. That said, as it progresses, the pesticides, fertilzers, and other various products that derive from petrochemicals will becomes unavailable or limited in supply, and it was really the vastly increased harvests per acre that these made possible (along with mechanized farming-also dependant upon the petrochemical industry in the form of gasoline and oil) the incredible population growth of the last century. That will come to an end. The numbers of our people (Whites) will continue to decrease, and maybe they will even achieve their goal of causing our extinction as a race (I certainly hop not), but theirs will soon follow after ours. OTOH, it could be that Peak Oil will serve to help increase the numbers of Whites in the future, by reducing the world’s capability to feed the outrageously prolific non-Whites, helped along by the blacks own self-destructive sexual habits which increase their rates of death from AIDS and other STD’s.

  • Nightowl

    I attended a world of science lecture at the local planetarium in which several university physicists talked about the world after petroleum. They were not optimistic about any of Obama’s “green technology” like solar panels, windmills, etc. But said that America’s uranium reserves can supply our energy needs for the next two million years. Such a system would be electrical based and there would be some sacrifices if you always needed to be plugged in. Still we could work it out, for example electrical cars that take hours to charge could be built with batteries that slide in and out in a few minutes time. Sort of like reusable milk bottles or BBQ propane tanks. Just pull up to the station, undo a few latches and an attendant comes out with a pallet jack and slides the old one out and a freshly charged new one in and you are off down the interstate for the next few hundred miles.

  • Discard

    Biased Observer, I use the term “Darks” to describe Blacks and non-White Hispanics, peoples who are actually dark. Some people use the phrase, Non Asian Minorities, (NAMs). Yes, the Orientals and Hindus could maintain the technology. From a tyrant’s point of view, it’s much better to have your middle class drawn from a minority that needs your protection, rather than from the masses who might wonder why they need the protection of a tyrant. Historically, Jews, Armenians, overseas Chinese, and other peoples have served many ruling classes as a docile bourgeois, and that is what Asian immigration is all about.
    But once the Whites leave California, I don’t think the Orientals and Hindus will want to be left in the cage with the much more numerous Darks. Even if they lived in secure enclaves, they wouldn’t be willing to pay the taxes that the Whites were no longer paying. (Rich White Californians are becoming tax refugees, even if there’s not a Dark living within miles of them.) Hell, the Blacks will leave too, or be run out by the Mexicans, either way. The Mexicans will squat down and wonder where the food stamps are. Without White management, California, garden of the nation, won’t be able to feed itself. We still hold the cards.

  • Brutus

    “I attended a world of science lecture at the local planetarium in which several university physicists talked about the world after petroleum. They were not optimistic about any of Obama’s “green technology” like solar panels, windmills, etc. But said that America’s uranium reserves can supply our energy needs for the next two million years.”

    Yes, nuclear will be the way to go. Here is some info regarding nuclear Vs. Coal fired produced energy:

    “Nuclear Waste Disposal
    WHAT ABOUT IT?

    Following the items I’ve posted advocating nuclear as ultimately the only way to go, a number of people have repeated the frequently asked question of what to do about the waste. My response is that it’s a needlessly manufactured political problem, not a technical one. And in any case the problem itself is minor compared to what we have at present.

    A single 1,000 Megawatt coal plant releases something like 600lb carbon dioxide and 30lb sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere per second, and as much nitrogen oxides as 200,000 automobiles, all of which is estimated to cause 25 premature fatalities and 60,000 cases of respiratory complaints per year, per plant. In addition, it has to get rid of 30,000 truck-loads of ash annually–enough to cover a square mile sixty feet deep–full of carcinogens, highly acidic or highly alkaline depending on the kind of coal, and, ironically, emitting more radiation from trace uranium than a nuke is permitted to. That’s a real waste-disposal nightmare for you.

    The hysteria about toxicity is not justified by anything factual. After its initial on-site cooling-off period (i.e. at the point where it would be transported to a deep-burial site as currently proposed) high-level wastes would be about as toxic as barium or arsenic if ingested, and 1/10th that of ammonia or 1/1000th that of chlorine–which we use liberally to clean our bathtubs and swimming pools– if inhaled. After 100 years, these figures drop to 1/1000th, 1/100,000th, and 1/10,000,000th respectively.

    The “conventional” types of waste remain lethal, and far less easily detectable, forever.

    Some figures:

    250 nuclear plants would generate enough waste to kill 10 billion people. True, if it were freely accessible, and people obligingly lined up to receive their daily dose or intake of it. The same is probably true also of gasoline. By the same token the U.S already produces enough:

    — arsenic trioxide to kill 10 billion people

    — barium to kill 100 billion.

    — ammonia to kill 6 trillion.

    — phosgene to kill 20 trillion.

    — chlorine to kill 400 trillion

    As for plutonium having a long half-life, so what? Compost heaps and incense sticks have long half-lives; napalm bombs and gunpowder have short ones. The public health limits on plutonium in drinking water are 400 times higher than for radium, which is used safely as a matter of course in practically every hospital.

    In short, N-waste turns out to be significantly less hazardous than many other substances that are handled routinely in far greater volumes, and with far less care.

    The sensible way to deal with waste (actually a potentially valuable by-product) is to reprocess it into new fuel and burn it up in reactors, which not only solves the “problem” but would save about $4 billion in imported oil costs in the lifetime of a 1,000 MW plant. Roughly 96% of the spent fuel that comes out of a plant can be handled in this way. The remaining “high level” waste from a year’s operation of a 1,000 MW (large) plant takes up about half a cubic yard.

    This is what the U.S. nuclear industry was set up to do–as the rest of the world is doing–until political obstructionism in the late 1970s halted work on the Barnwell facility in South Carolina, which was being built to handle commercial wastes. Legislation passed at the same time cut the utilities off from the military facilities that had been handling commercial wastes safely since the 1950’s. The result was that 100% of what comes out of the reactors is having to be treated as if it were high-level waste, to be stored in ways that were never intended, and this is what gets all the publicity.

    So, in answer to “What about the waste?” What about it?”

    From:

    http://www.jamesphogan.com/bb/category.php?id=4

    There are more articles and links here concerning criticism of solar power and windmills, as well as more info on nuclear power.

  • TabuLa Raza

    Thank you.

  • Earl Pitts Sr.

    @ Brutie

    That’s a wild exaggeration of the byproducts released by a coal fired plant. Most of the byproducts are captured and sold. You could stand next to a modern large coal fired power plant, and you would not even know it. Sure, some of the older plants without scrubbers, and dust collection are a problem—but–they are being phased out.

    Btw, complete combustion means little or no pollution.

    If O’ Darkie in the White House spent more time on clean coal technology we would be much much further along.

  • Brutus

    “That’s a wild exaggeration of the byproducts released by a coal fired plant. ”

    No. The scrubbers do take most of the pollution out of the exhaust, but carbon dioxide, nitrogen oxides and sulfur dioxide gases are still emitted.

    The figures cited above are not exaggerations. You can look up the numbers yourself. The following source, for example, gives “2,249 lbs/MWh of carbon dioxide, 13 lbs/MWh of sulfur dioxide, and 6 lbs/MWh of nitrogen oxides” as being emitted. So, according to my calculator, and using a 1,000 megawatt coal fired plant as my citation above does, I get 624.7 lbs/sec of carbon dioxide release. He did make a mistake with his decimal point concerning sulfur dioxide, it is 3.6 pounds per second and not 30. But the overall number is still higher than I would have once thought.

    http://www.epa.gov/cleanrgy/energy-and-you/affect/coal.

    Also, some, not most, of the solid waste is recycled for other constructive uses. And it is true about complete combustion, but irrelevant since there is not complete combustion with coal.

    The article I quoted in my original post a good summation and not as flawed as you speculated.

  • “Multiculturalism is very expensive, high maintenance social engineering. It will fail when they can’t pay for it any more.”

    That is the most cheerful thing I have read all day.

    HelenChicago: “When do you expect this to occur? Within our lifetimes, or more than a century in the future?”

    The careful pundits, e.g. John Robb and Pat Lang, tend to hedge their predictions as possibilities.

    Less cautious doomsayers have predicted doom by 2 August 2010.

    Personally, I think the key issue is the strength of the USA dollar. As long as the USA dollar is strong enough to be used for reserve currency, the current geopolitical situation will probably persist.

    When the USA dollar has some kind of international crisis – then there will be sudden change.

    Here are some possible crises:
    a) US dollar hyperinflates; US residents panic and cannot buy food.
    b) US defaults on debts and fails to conceal it; markets panic.
    c) China suddenly refuses to buy more US bonds; markets panic.

    Here are some possible non-crisis turning points:
    d) US defaults on debts but successfully conceals default; markets stagger along.
    e) China buys fewer bonds but US has time to adjust; business as usual.
    f) US cuts entitlements but conceals cuts; US residents blame each other.

    Because a,b, and c would destabilize the US, the Powers That Be will expend a lot of resources to push for non-crisis alternatives such as d, e, and f.

    Forecasting rationally predictable disruptions is important, and I plan to blog a lot about exactly that topic. But recall that there are also black swans, unpredicted disruptions, and those can have a lot more impact because it’s harder to prepare for them.

  • Brutus

    Sorry, deleted some of the address. It is:

    http://www.epa.gov/cleanrgy/energy-and-you/affect/coal.html

  • What me worried?

    What would happen after a major collapse? It’s any one guess.
    I think we would have people moving in all sorts of directions.
    One thing to remember is that even with a major collapse there would still be a massive popular culture industry that would be producing a steady supply of even more decadent performers and products. No doubt both the blacks and gays will at the top of the list.
    For millions of frighten and confused young whites this decadent culture, no doubt based largely on sexuality, will have a tremendous appeal.

    I have just finished reading Joe Webb’s review of Disgrace by J.M. Coetzee
    at OO. In the book he, according to the reviewer, paints a picture of whites people who have excepted the idea that white should be sexually submissive to blacks.

    From the review:

    Why does she submit to this Disgrace? She replies to her father’s demands for Justice, that she will not go to the police; what happened to her is a “private matter, [that] in this place, at this time, it is …my business.” “What place?,” her father demands. Lucy: “This place being South Africa.” (p. 112). David Lurie asks her if she is expiating for the crimes of the past and she says that those words are just “abstractions.”

    Lucy’s father pleads with her, but she is “defeated” (p. 151), she sees the Blacks as debt-collectors, and why should she not pay? (p. 158); she wonders why she experienced such personal hatred from the rapists, Lurie says it is just “history,” a history of “wrong.” (Does this “wrong” belong too to J.M. Coetzee?) Lucy fights with her father, will not listen to him, claims a personal subjectivity that gives her the right to defend the rapists for their payback.

    Finally she says that the rapists, the rape, the African baby in her womb, are “facts of life”. “I am prepared to do anything, make any sacrifice, for the sake of peace.”(p. 208.)

    Well, there we have it, the woman in her White Guilt, her love of any child, even the defective child in her womb, a defective on top of a black African IQ average of 68. This is a total surrender to mere life. This is the surrender of the White race, our genetic White Goodness leading to race suicide. It is our racial Disgrace.

  • Jackson

    WMW: Yuck. I think I’m starting to understand honor killing.

  • Earl Pitts Sr.

    @ Brutie

    According to the EPA that’s per Megawatt hour, not per second.

    “The average emission rates in the United States from coal-fired generation are: 2,249 lbs/MWh of carbon dioxide, 13 lbs/MWh of sulfur dioxide, and 6 lbs/MWh of nitrogen oxides.1 ”

    The above are the so-called greenhouse gasses.

  • Discard

    What, Me Worried?: In the future, this period in history will be viewed much as we view the Black Death or the Thirty Years War. A time of enormous destruction and human waste. The young people swept up in Hollywood-propelled decadence will be counted as casualties of The War of Jewish Empire, or whatever title future historians come up with.

  • Brutus

    “According to the EPA that’s per Megawatt hour, not per second.”

    Right, Earl, that’s why I multiplied 2,249 by 1,000, since we are talking about a 1,000 megawatt unit, and then divided by 3,600, the number of seconds per hour, in order to calculate pounds per second. I thought I had made that clear.

    It is called dimensional analysis.

    (1,000mw)(2,249lbs/1mwh)(1hr/3,600s) = 624.7 lbs/s

  • Erik Nordman

    WMW: I am ignorant of who this “Lurie” is in the book, but that is a Jewish name…

  • I am always highly skeptical of these ‘impending doom’ scenarios. A more likely scenario is a regression to a society without much opportunity aside from the rich, and a vast underclass largely dependent on the government, with the remaining middle class being people working for the government and contractors on programs that serve the underclass (social worker, section 8 landlord, fixing up apartments for section 8, etc).

    The basic necessities are already in the US (housing and food), and I expect them to make cable internet a ‘necessity’ as well (they already made broadcast TV a ‘necessity’ and sent out vouchers for people to buy digital converter boxes a couple years ago).

    As states run out of money, the feds will step in with ‘bailouts’ in return for greater control over the system. The schools systems for example are in trouble, mainly from salary and pension costs, and I expect the feds to bail out these systems in return for more federal control over the curriculum. The schools are not only essential to the establishment’s brainwashing, but also a jobs program for otherwise unemployable college graduates.

    A ‘real estate stagnation’ will just mean that middle class people can’t make a few hundred grand in profit by selling their little house in outer suburbia and moving to the sun belt. Now, Boomers will just be stuck back in New Jersey or whereever, sitting around watching TV (with their underemployed adult kids living with them).

    Here are some possible crises:
    a) US dollar hyperinflates; US residents panic and cannot buy food.

    The US produces a large surplus of food, and the US federal government provides food stamps. There’s no real limit to the amount of food stamps they can ‘print’ since they just send an e-check from the federal reserve to buy treasury bonds to cover it, it’s a pretty much self contained system. Farmers etc will keep producing and selling food, since they’ll need the money, like anyone else. So don’t expect to see any food riots.

    b) US defaults on debts and fails to conceal it; markets panic.

    That would be the best situation all around. Then the government could no longer borrow money, and would have to cut entitlements and govt jobs programs. Much more likely is inflation though.


    c) China suddenly refuses to buy more US bonds; markets panic.

    Possible, but China has a dysfunction economy itself, and keeps its currency low in order to keep up exports to the US, in order to maintain high employment to prevent social unrest. They’ll keep this up for as long as they can.

    Here are some possible non-crisis turning points:
    d) US defaults on debts but successfully conceals default; markets stagger along.

    I don’t know how you could conceal default. People would notice they aren’t receiving payments on treasury bonds, and would make a stink about it.

    e) China buys fewer bonds but US has time to adjust; business as usual.

    Quite possible.

    f) US cuts entitlements but conceals cuts; US residents blame each other.

    Again, I don’t know how you could conceal cuts. People would raise holy hell if any of their entitlements got cut. I expect an increase in entitlements, to try to prevent social unrest.

  • I am always highly skeptical of these ‘impending doom’ scenarios. A more likely scenario is a regression to a society without much opportunity aside from the rich, and a vast underclass largely dependent on the government, with the remaining middle class being people working for the government and contractors on programs that serve the underclass (social worker, section 8 landlord, fixing up apartments for section 8, etc).

    The USA might be able to avoid riots, martial law, etc., at home.

    However, at present, the USA can afford to maintain very large military forces all over the planet.

    If the international financial markets have a “black swan” (a theoretically-impossible, thus totally unforeseen disruption) then the USA might lose international military power. The USA dollar might lose reserve currency status. This might not make any difference to whites living in the USA, but it would be big news to everyone living outside the USA.

  • Joanne Dee

    The little civility that does remains is this country is coming to an abrupt end soon. You’re either prepared or you’re not. Being prepared and mistaken is a helluva lot better than not being prepared and mistaken. All us white nationalists need is a clean water supply, freeze dried food, a personal arsenal, and a ham radio to keep in touch with each other.

  • MGLS

    I am always highly skeptical of these ‘impending doom’ scenarios. A more likely scenario is a regression to a society without much opportunity aside from the rich, and a vast underclass largely dependent on the government, with the remaining middle class being people working for the government and contractors on programs that serve the underclass (social worker, section 8 landlord, fixing up apartments for section 8, etc).

    Excellent points. Predictions of collapse and race war have been made endlessly over the last few decades, and they never come true.

    The most likely scenario is a slow decline, like that of the Roman Empire. The United States will become increasingly Brazilianized over time. There may be some sporadic rioting in the inner cities from time to time as in Detroit and Los Angeles, but there is not going to be any widespread organized violence. There is not going to be any collapse or race war.

    Predictions of imminent collapse and race war are enormously detrimental to our cause. They breed fatalism and encourage people to disengage from the real world and just wait for the collapse. Once the predictions inevitably fail to come true, it creates a sense of despondency and betrayal in those who believed the predictions.

    We must get past the mentality that a collapse and race war are imminent. They are not. The decline of our race is slow and gradual. If we are to reverse it, it will be through building a movement to secure racial preservation.

  • The only thing that really stands out about the West today in terms of economics in terms is the level of debt, and the fact that it keeps being built up as opposed to ever being paid off.

    This combined with the tax paying European-Americans becoming an ever smaller share of the population is going to cause some issues of importance over the next I would say 30 years.

    At the same time it’s important to understand that we’ve never been further away from food shortages than we are now.

    Centuries of accumulated economic growth have created a Country were even television, something Kings of the 19th Century lacked, is considered a “necessity”.

    Also it should be noted that the Government is spending a LOT of money it doesn’t have to. It could have a Military more than capable of putting down whatever rebellions might arise, and of holding off the Chinese, while cutting trillions of dollars of military spending.

    Also Government employees are being massively overpaid relative to what the Government could get away with paying them.

  • MGLS,

    We must get past the mentality that a collapse and race war are imminent. They are not. The decline of our race is slow and gradual. If we are to reverse it, it will be through building a movement to secure racial preservation.

    Complete the following sentence:

    Therefore, I consider it essential to alienate as many people who might be supportive of such an effort as possible because____________________.

  • Kievsky

    H. Rock,

    The scenarios of “slow decline” that you describe will actually fundamentally change the culture, and lead to society decreasing in complexity. I don’t think American White will necessarily just “live with their parents” and give up on finding a source of income. The parents supporting this generation will die out, and the kids won’t inherit their pensions or social security.

    Conventional jobs are indeed being closed off to us. What will this lead to? It will lead to a hard entrepreneurialism, like the Jewish rag traders of old, or Chinese dry cleaner shops.

    Ruined aristocrats have to turn to entrepreneurialism when their franchises are taken away. The White race created a civilization and therefore we were its aristocrats, however lowly we were; then our civilization was usurped from us and came to be used against us.

    Corporate working Whites live in between the office, the couch, the bed, and maybe a sports stadium or NASCAR track, and the restaurants. They are isolated from any sort of “community” and this is why we lost everything.

    As entrepreneurs we’ll be all about working in the community. It will be something normal. And this will make us more political and better organized, because our lifestyle will be more designed toward group feeling and the acquisition of royal authority.

    We have to start from scratch. But don’t despair. The acquisition of royal authority will take about 2 generations, and during these two generations, we will be fighting back against the dirty war (inter-racial crime against Whites), and the hidden war (Psy-Ops against whites).

    This is the making of history. Group feeling is here. Look at all the White advocacy blogs. There is no putting the toothpaste back in the tube.

  • TabuLaRaza

    “Again, I don’t know how you could conceal cuts. People would raise holy hell if any of their entitlements got cut.”

    This has already happened, through CACA C.O.L.A.- lying about the cost of living allowance, due to lying about the consumer price index.

    Social security payments are about one-half of what they should be had inflation had been honestly calculated.

  • Discard

    Slow decline is what we are seeing now. The Regime knows the country is collapsing, since they sucked the life out of it, and wants to control the rate of decline so as not to alarm too many Whites. As a look at the Tea Party will show, it’s the older Whites, who have the perspective of age to see what has happened to their country, who are alarmed. Intelligent younger Whites are, by and large, adapting themselves to the world they see. They are going to work, going to school or some online training program to acquire or upgrade their skills, buying more fuel efficient cars, making small economies in their lives, managing their savings, all in anticipation of the country continuing pretty much as they think it is. Newer and better cellphones will come out, new celebrities will appear, things will become more diverse. They are not alarmed, they are not planning for radical change, and would oppose any such change, whether it be a Dark uprising or the mass abolition of all the useless office jobs so many of them hold. These are the people the Regime needs to pacify, and if the decline can be managed, the Regime will win. 200 years from now, a couple “USian” historians named Richard Jose Chan-Mobuto and Shamika Michele Ganges-Goldblum will include us in their footnotes.
    Nothing we can do will change this fate. We are too few and too marginalized, and if the bulk of the Whites in this country remain pacified, we will always be too few and too marginalized. That’s not despair, that’s objective reality. You will no more organize employed middle class Whites who have manageable mortgages and cable TV to overthrow the Regime, than you could organize Blacks to stop littering and to pay attention in school.
    But we’re not the only ones with problems. The Regime has to manage this decline with no real wealth. They can print money and give it away, but that’s about all they can do. Since much of what they print goes directly into the pockets of Wall Street thieves, and Whites know it, they can’t get away with that forever without alarming those middle class Whites they need to keep happy. They’ve got a hundred million non-Whites who take a lot and give back very little, violent cargo cultists who want the White Man’s goodies but have no idea where it all comes from. These people need to be paid, or they will riot, and alarm the middle class Whites. They’ve got two pointless, unwinnable wars to wage and pay for, and the enmity of half the world, which is just waiting to kick us when we’re down. And they got the maniacal arrogance of the Jews always at their back, pushing ever harder for every anti-White measure they can come up with.
    Some people think that the Regime has got it all planned out, but I don’t think so. Do the wars we’ve got going serve the interests of anyone but the Jews? Does immigration serve the interests of social liberals, homosexuals, or Blacks? Do the Wall Street bailouts serve anyone but Wall Street? The Regime is a coalition of criminals, each seeking their own goals, united only by their greed. The different factions will fuck each other over as easily as they fuck us, and that will bring them down.
    As Kievsky says, multi-culturalism is a very expensive, high maintenance sort of social engineering. Forty years ago, we had the wealth to play games and live high, but we’ve pissed it all away like a heavyweight champion. The Regime is trying to manage the decline, but I think they will fail, and I think they know it. They hope to milk us for everything and get out at the last minute.

  • I think it could go either way, or somewhere in between, what Kievsky and Discard described.

    I don’t think American White will necessarily just “live with their parents” and give up on finding a source of income. The parents supporting this generation will die out, and the kids won’t inherit their pensions or social security.

    There’s at least a full generation to go before these boomer parents start dying off, which gives them a fair amount of time to come up with a ‘solution’ to this problem. I think the ‘solution’ here is the growing diagnosis of ‘mental disabilities’ such as ‘ADD’, ‘depression’, ‘anxiety’. We’re going to see an acceleration of the trend of people going on ‘social security disability’ for these things, which gets them access to Section 8 housing, food stamps, and a monthly check of several hundred dollars or so to pay for other living expenses such as cable and drugs. It’s a bare sort of existence, but you get your own place, and if you spend the day smoking weed and watching TV you can make the time pass. In states with the 5-cent can deposit (mostly in the northeast) the more enterprising figures of this underclass can go around collecting cans to cash in for weed money. A lot of the ‘enterprising’ of this class consists of growing and distributing weed and other such substances. If they can get on ‘disability’, they can get on government health care, which can grant them access to free or cheap prescription painkillers, which can be sold at hefty profit to the remaining office zombies.

    The smarter ones of this new ‘drop-out class’ will not have children, thus the problem of these people who might have one time had middle class aspirations will eventually go away. The dumber ones of the white underclass will continue to merge with the nonwhite underclass.

    Some members of this class will eventually inherit their parents house (which they have lived in all their life), and then be able to take in cash by renting out rooms.

  • I Buried My Guns

    MGLS Says:

    “…Predictions of imminent collapse and race war are enormously detrimental to our cause. They breed fatalism…”

    I very respectfully disagree. To folks I talk to (both educated and blue collar), the coming Civil Unrest looks like a great opportunity to undo much of what is wrong about our culture and our Nation. Sure, some eggs will “get broke” to make the New American Omelette, but when the dust settles the visage that emerges will hopefully look more like a Norman Rockwell painting, and less like “Omega Man”. It will mark a moment in history when, for the first time in our lives, the little man on the street actually has influence on our National destiny.

    A Great Cleansing, if you will, and rather than breeding fatalism, it fills my heart with the optimism that my children will grow up in a country unencumbered with much of the moral/racial pollution that currently afflicts us.

  • Kievsky

    IBMG,

    I agree. I’m just not sure we here in the Northeast will even survive. It’s going to get real real ugly because society is so unsustainable. People don’t really how easily the “machine” can break.

    Modern society is not sustainable. Multiracialism is not sustainable. None of it is sustainable, and when it runs it’s course, the downslope is going to be real nasty.

  • J.j. Cintia

    Gee could it be that jews are not superintelligent, but rather a greedy race of ugly self absorbed clueless goblins who stupidly adorn their nests with shiny objects like a pack rat or bird? Yeah could be. That could be exactly what the problem is right there in fact. White people built this world and we’re the only ones that know how it works and can maintain it. By cutting out the”Angry White Male”, these fools have slit their own throats and set their course straight towards the ground. It’ll be a hard landing for them, but fortunately they told us to get off before changing course straight down. Oh too bad. Its almost tragic. I almost feel a tear welling up, for a deceased pet cat I lost. Who cares about them though?