Could America Split Up?

Possibly.

Maybe not though.

The Week:

“All week I’ve been haunted by a brief few seconds of video posted on Twitter late Sunday night by a student journalist in Eugene, Oregon. Two men face off at a protest — the one standing on the left is demonstrating for Black Lives Matter; the one on the right, sitting in a pickup truck, is a counter-protester. Each is pointing a handgun at the other’s face at point blank range. …

The left, meanwhile, views things exactly in reverse. The story of the country is one characterized by unjust domination by a narrow class of white, male, heterosexual, cisgendered oppressors, and then a slow, grinding fight toward greater liberty and equality for every identity. Yet instead of giving up its exclusive privileges and conceding the justice of continuing with progress toward ever-greater democracy, the right has mounted a counter-assault that aims to reverse the progress America has made, with the ultimate goal of propping up its remaining power and then actively narrowing the circle of citizenship in the hopes of turning back the clock to a time when white, heterosexual, cisgendered men were in charge of everything. That poses an existential threat to all that’s worthwhile about the country and fully justifies uncompromising acts to thwart its realization.

But today? We talk of red states and blue states, but that’s obviously simplistic. It’s not even possible to speak of an archipelago of progressive coastal cities arrayed against a much less densely populated inland empire of conservatism. The fact is that even small cities in America are significantly more liberal than the small towns and countryside that surround them. I live in an inner-ring suburb of Philadelphia that is heavily Democratic, but just a few miles from my house there are neighborhoods and towns filled with loyal Republicans. We are politically intertwined. That’s the way a country is supposed to be — at least when those on different sides of political disputes don’t hate each other.

Do we hate each other? And if we do, what are our viable options as a polity? I don’t know how to answer those questions. What I do know is that it is long past time to begin posing them. …”

Breitbart:

“But conveniently, a group of former top government officials called the Transition Integrity Project actually gamed four possible scenarios, including one that doesn’t look that different from 2016: a big popular win for Mr. Biden, and a narrow electoral defeat, presumably reached after weeks of counting the votes in Pennsylvania. For their war game, they cast John Podesta, who was Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, in the role of Mr. Biden. They expected him, when the votes came in, to concede, just as Mrs. Clinton had.

But Mr. Podesta, playing Mr. Biden, shocked the organizers by saying he felt his party wouldn’t let him concede. Alleging voter suppression, he persuaded the governors of Wisconsin and Michigan to send pro-Biden electors to the Electoral College.

In that scenario, California, Oregon, and Washington then threatened to secede from the United States if Mr. Trump took office as planned. The House named Mr. Biden president; the Senate and White House stuck with Mr. Trump. At that point in the scenario, the nation stopped looking to the media for cues, and waited to see what the military would do.”

I’m convinced it is a natural and cyclical process. Every period of cultural unraveling or degeneration is inevitably followed by a crisis. We have been here before in the 1910s, 1920s and 1930s (the rise of Modernism) and before that in the 1830s, 1840s and 1850s (the rise of Romanticism) and before that in the 1740s, 1750s and 1760s (the rise of Enlightenment).

America had a fierce culture war in the 1920s. During Prohibition, people who wanted to relax and drink alcohol were driven underground in our society for committing what was thought in that time to be the great national sin. The utopian crusade to stamp out alcoholism was written into the Constitution. Back then, the “wet” was the equivalent of a “racist” to the temperance movement, an object of hatred and puritanical moral fervor and a threat to America that was repressed by the government.

It sounds ridiculous and impractical to us now like our present day crusade to stamp out the “systemic racism” of whiteness. The Modernists decisively triumphed over the Romantics after the shocks of the World Wars and Great Depression. Prohibition was repealed. The world was steadily rebuilt from the 1930s and 1940s in the image of Modernism. Everything was changed by the Modernists including how America came to see itself as a melting pot and Nation of Immigrants with no racial, ethnic or cultural core. The past was a burden to be shaken off in the name of universal liberalism and cosmopolitanism.

Like their historical predecessors, the Modernists created their own great national sin, which after achieving a critical mass and permeating and polarizing all of society has to be dealt with in their waning days. The great national sin is now being a culturally conservative White person who is attached to your race. Culturally and legally, it is shameful and against the law to be a “racist.” It is “discrimination” in favor of your own kind. You can’t be a “racist” in the Modernist mainstream. Unlike in previous ages, you can be every conceivable type of moral degenerate and be publicly celebrated for it. You can consume any product including drugs. Modernism, however, is fundamentally about shaking off the past, the liberating experience of being uprooted, transgression and celebrating the self and the other. Modernism is the perspective of the “mainstream” which represses those who reject modernist values.

The mainstream Right is a Modernist poodle. It is content to conserve moral and cultural degeneration and repose in luxury. It cuts taxes and slashes regulations on businesses. It polices the world. It only crosses the line into ethnonationalism when it is championing the interests of Israel for its donors. The mainstream Left does not feel threatened by the mainstream Right because it is equally Modernist. It fears people on the Right who are rejecting Modernist values. It is the rise of the “Nazis” all over again. As Obama recently said, Trump is Bull Connor in Birmingham. The Modernist imagination always harkens back to the 1930s and 1940s or the 1960s when good triumphed over evil. It is terrified that “dark forces” on the Right are interrupting the great moral arc of the universe which bends toward perpetual social progress. The whole internet has to be censored and cleansed of the virus of anti-modernism!

If Trump is reelected in November, Democrats are now even floating the possibility of secession and civil war simply because in their minds he is associated with this. Why is there so much hysteria? Why is there this comical and delusional panic about “white supremacy” on the Left which controls the commanding heights of every cultural institution in our society? It is because there is a palpable fear among our Modernist elites that in spite of all their institutional power they are losing their grip.

How many times can you watch Hollywood movies which are remakes of remakes? How long can you ignore all the severe consequences of Modernism and pretend it will work out? How long can a political, economic and cultural establishment hold out that has lost its legitimacy? What happens when the public is no longer enchanted and lulled to sleep by Modernism like in the good old days?

My belief is that Modernism will exhaust, unravel, convulse and destroy itself like all previous social orders. It is Amazon that does the book burning these days in service to a decrepit idea. The country won’t break up permanently, but if it does temporarily, it will cease to be Modernist.

From the Declaration of Independence:

When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. …”

It is an Enlightenment founding.

From Lincoln’s First Inaugural Address:

“I am loath to close. We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies. Though passion may have strained, it must not break our bonds of affection. The mystic chords of memory, stretching from every battle-field, and patriot grave, to every living heart and hearthstone, all over this broad land, will yet swell the chorus of the Union, when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature.”

It is a Romantic refounding.

From Jefferson Davis:

“Fellow citizens and brethren of the Confederated States of America – for now we are brethren, not in name merely, but in fact – men of one flesh, one bone, one interest, one purpose, of identity of domestic institutions – we have henceforth, I trust, a prospect of living together in peace, with our institutions subject to protection, and not to defamation. It may be that our career will be ushered in the midst of a storm; it may be that, as this morning opened with clouds, rain and mist, we shall have to encounter inconveniences at the beginning; but, as the sun rose and lifted the mist, it dispersed the clouds and left us the pure sunlight of heaven. So will progress the Southern Confederacy, and carry us into the harbor of constitutional liberty and political equality. We shall fear nothing, because of homogeneity at home and nothing abroad to awe us; because, if war should come, if we must again baptize in blood the principles for which our fathers bled in the Revolution, we shall show that we are not degenerate sons, but will redeem the pledges they gave, preserve the rights they transmitted to us, and prove that Southern valor still shines as bright as in 1776, in 1812, and in every other conflict.”

An equally Romantic refounding.

From FDR’s First Inaugural Address:

“I am certain that my fellow Americans expect that on my induction into the Presidency I will address them with a candor and a decision which the present situation of our Nation impels. This is preeminently the time to speak the truth, the whole truth, frankly and boldly. Nor need we shrink from honestly facing conditions in our country today. This great Nation will endure as it has endured, will revive and will prosper. So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself–nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance. In every dark hour of our national life a leadership of frankness and vigor has met with that understanding and support of the people themselves which is essential to victory. I am convinced that you will again give that support to leadership in these critical days.

In such a spirit on my part and on yours we face our common difficulties. They concern, thank God, only material things. Values have shrunken to fantastic levels; taxes have risen; our ability to pay has fallen; government of all kinds is faced by serious curtailment of income; the means of exchange are frozen in the currents of trade; the withered leaves of industrial enterprise lie on every side; farmers find no markets for their produce; the savings of many years in thousands of families are gone.

More important, a host of unemployed citizens face the grim problem of existence, and an equally great number toil with little return. Only a foolish optimist can deny the dark realities of the moment.”

It is a Modernist refounding.

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  1. If I hear most Americans clearly, it would seem that most do not want to break up, certainly not if you ask them directly.

    Yet, if you listen to them pontificate politically for a bit, you get the feeling that most of them would like the country to stay together – AFTER they deport, hang, and or shoot, many tens of millions with whom they do not agree or like the sight of.

    Personally, I do not want to act out on folks I disagree with, or dislike, but, would prefer an amicable divorce.

    Divorce (segregation) has existed since time immemorial, because when it gets to the point you don’t want to live with someone, or they you, such an act becomes a positive good.

    • “Personally, I do not want to act out on folks I disagree with, or dislike, but, would prefer an amicable divorce.”

      Here is how it will go in the real world. If the USA splits up, a cold war followed by the most bloody war in history will be waged to make it whole again.

      If you don’t see it, look at what the loon Pelosi said about the buffon Trump. She said quite plainly that they will use Poison Gas on the White House to get him out. While you want to be left alone, they are ginning up their people for your extermination.

      • @Matty…

        I agree with you, Sir – we may have no choice but to act out on folks, if they threaten our neighbourhoods, or if they take over state and national governments and begin to improve upon the treacherous tyrannies that they already practice.

        That said, I saw the Soviet Union dissolve peacefully, that follow by a horrific decade or civil breakdown.

        So, I just do not know about what will happen here.

        My wife and I are assiduously studying Hungarian every day, in case we must do what has happened to so many in history – resettle to a different land.

        If our own Southern kind will fight, we will stay and fight, but, if they just want to tuck under and be sheep, we won’t stay for that.

        We ain’t finishin’ the last years of our lives in a Dixie where there is no fight – but, only the shame of skulking about with excuses in our pocket for why things are become so dadburn repressive…

        • The left can leave i wont marse robert counseled his soldiers to stay and rebuild this shattered land. We aint lost yet! Sir!

        • I am a southern blooded detroit whiteboy. I know posturing when i see it.stop being spooked so easy. Very unbecoming.

        • Supply chain interuption and this coming war with china really concern me antifa nfac dont one look at our leather clad cavalry and i notice a quick change of heart among that sorry bunch.

          • @Terry…

            Thank you for your encouragements.

            We, here at Occidental Dissent – the home of Southern Nationalism, Confederates, (living & dead) and all around Southern Patriots, are very happy to have the support of Wolverines – not just in the far Upper Peninsula, but, if need be, then downtown Detroit.

            Much of my wife’s family, Alabamans, resettled in Pontiac in the years immediately after WWII, and there they have remained, though, there values have not changed.

            Though this is the online home of the True South, we have many friends and supporters – from as far afield as The Ukraine, to as unlikely a place as New England!

            If no one else has, let me now take the opportunity to welcome you here.

            Please share this site with family, friends, and fellow patriots.

            God be with you!

    • “Why is there so much hysteria? Why is there this comical and delusional panic about “white supremacy” on the Left which controls the commanding heights of every cultural institution in our society?”

      Because they are unregenerate, Idol-worshiping N-word lovers, whose sexual debauchery has damned them to hell. The sooner we cut ourselves off from them, the better. I want NOTHING to do with the Jew World Order. I’d rather see them all perish, for their evil.

      “Theology—not philosophy, literature, geography, economics, politics, law, art, music, or science—was and is the mainspring of our culture and history.  It is that which set it in motion, and maintained its cohesion and harmonious movement. – Anthony Flood

      “Kill the colonizers, Kill Whitey”- written upon the statue torn down of Francis Scott Key in S.F. What does this mean? In other words, “Murder AMERICANS for the color of their skin.”- T Carlson

      “Ask yourself, ‘Who is being targeted for destruction right now?’ Anyone who is not on board with their [Democrat] program…. that includes local police departments, gun owners, ‘Traditional Christianity.’ That’s not a random assortment… It’s the people standing in their way. There’s a reason that BLM Leader Shaun King called for the desecration of Churches…

      None of this should surprise us; it’s obvious. Much of the poison emanates from the universities. We keep funding them, we send our children there.” – Tucker Carlson, “Our Institutions are not serving us equally” broadcast

      “Recently I heard [Tucker] Carlson say, quite rightly, that the terrorists of Antifa and Black Lives Matter should be opposed. Language is sermonic: calling terrorists terrorists is certainly a good start; they are not ‘protestors.’ Carlson went on to say that Trump should do something. Yes, he should. But what should be done to stop terrorists? The answer is simple – terrorists should be shot and killed. No government that is still a government can tolerate what is now going on in the name of Black Lives Matter. “

      “Truth is truth till the end of reckoning,” Isabella declares in Shakespeare’s Measure for Measure. And negro worship is demonism; that is and always shall be true till the end of reckoning. You cannot serve two masters. If your Christian faith consists of proclaiming the compatibility of Christianity and negro worship, you are not a Christian. If we are true to our Jesus, we must renounce the devil and all his works, even if that means we must stand alone against the demon-possessed liberal swine who command us to bow down before the sacred negro….We cannot avoid this thing called faith. Do we serve Christ or the negro?”

      https://cambriawillnotyield.com/2020/06/27/back-from-the-dead/

      After the war [WWII], while sending one of his priests to a parish in a village, Metropolitan Joseph (of Serbia) gave him a cross and asked him: ‘Do you remember how the Spartan mother saw off her son to the battle, giving him the spear? I give you the cross of Christ, and am sending you to the terrible war with the godless. Here, my son, is the cross and the vow with it or on it.’
      https://www.academia.edu/10287440/NEW_ZION_IN_BABYLON_-_PART_4_1941-1965_?email_work_card=view-paper

      • @Fr. John…

        ““Why is there so much hysteria? Why is there this comical and delusional panic about “white supremacy” on the Left which controls the commanding heights of every cultural institution in our society?””

        Because, as you know, Dear Father, it is a psychic ploy – both for their own heads and those of every other around them, to seize total control to shape every single detail of the world in which they live.

        But, yes, I agree with you – they are running, in some ways very unconsciously, and not only from the legacy of their own sin nature, but, from earthly reality, and, as well, from what they would think of themselves IF they admitted to themselves who they were and what they really were up to.

        But, then, I already said that.

        Great comment of yours, by the way – full of fantastically pertinent allegory!

        God bless you, up yonder, as always!

    • Wrong Ivan. MOST ( white ) Americans DO “NOW” want to separate. The question is, are there any “founder types,” who’s calling it is … to massage that separation into reality ?

      A very enlarged ‘white only’ Confederate States would obviously be OUR section.

      May the conversation begin …

      Or not … and just ALL of us sink on The Titanic …

      • Yes gray ghost yes!!! We have no king but jesus no law but liberty the war was won on calvary we fight for the souls of men!!! His will be done on earth as in heaven!!!

      • There were already white only states both in America and Europe.Liberal white people doomed them.

        White only state mean that lets reverse Titanic and lets hit the iceberg one more time. Maybe next time is different.

        Without genetic white liberals we would not have diversity problem in the first place.

        Soviet Union was white state with madness and ca 50 million dead.

        • For that reason if a choice was offered between white ethnostates, I’d choose the white ethnostate that was created for pro whites only. “If you ain’t pro white, you get thrown off a cliff.” , will be the first line in their constitution.

      • @Gray Ghost…

        Sir, if folks around your community want to separate, I can only be happy for that, for Lord knows, I sure do – and it ain’t no recent development.

        In Eastern Virginia and North Carolina, I can only repeat what I hear – that folks are very unhappy, but, they have no positive regard for thinking as either our Founding Fathers did, or those Confederate.

        Moreover, online, I read umpteen zillion comments online and what they think I summarized above.

        Very few talk about designing a civil break.

        I hope you are right, because I do miss a South controlled by White Southerners.

        This alien-designed South just don’t work – or, at least, not for Southerners.

        Stay tough!

        • Juri Mark Ivan … It STARTS with a conversation. A basic PLAN has to be formulated and debated to Kingdom Come to iron out the kinks and disagreements to hone polish and tweak it to perfection, THEN present and sell it to the people. Of course the 1st 10 years would have to be strict. Deport any freaks and anyone showing signs of libtardation. Also a ban on hip hop and ball sports. If I continue this would be a book not a comment.

          Let’s just start the conversation. We all have great ideas but none of us have ALL the answers. We need each other.

          But we must begin NOW, not next week or next month …

          Also, remember 40 + % of all comments you read out there are trolls paid and otherwise.

          • @Gray Ghost…

            I agree – it starts with a conversation, but, it’s a conversation I’ve had with many, and for many years, at that, that very few wish to have.

            If your area is an exception to this I think that is great, but, where I am it’s a dead fish.

            As to being on line, I have also spoken for secession for many years. As to whether it has taken or not, I do not know.

            In my opinion, the conversation will have to be started by events, such as President Trump being elected, but, The Left, again unwilling to accept the results –

            That (the unwillingness to accept the results of the 1860 election) started the last ‘conversation’.

            I think what will happen a few months from now is the following –

            #1. After several days of counting votes, President Trump will be in a small lead.

            #2. Many states and districts will be disputed.

            #3. The election will be fought out in court.

            #4. Many in the country, particularly, The Left, will be UNwilling to accept the results, they rioting throughout the months – sometimes more sometimes less.

            #5. In January, speaker Pelosi will bring the matter to the floor of The House, which will spark a bitter process that no one will accept – this time The Right, as much as The Left.

            #6. President Trump will refuse to leave office, citing many good reasons why it cannot be.

            #7. Far Western Cities and states will draft resolutions stating that, though, technically, they are not seceding, they will not accept the president of The United States.

            CONCLUSION – at that point Southerners will begin to have ‘the conversation’.

            Not before.

            That said, as I have said before : —— if Southerners get their independence in the next decade, it will NOT be because we secede, but, because we are the only ones left in The United States, or, we are left in it with those other Red States from The Plains and Midwest.

            All during the processes tens of millions of Americans will be migrating to where they wish to continue their future.

            In any case, Be well!

          • Gray ghost yes agreed the german general staff plan for any and every possibility. I have 2 ideas about the new csa 2.0 ist i nominate franklin graham as our president if not that at least csa supreme court justice. 2nd. Mr trump had a good idea but those people wont do anything but we could and can we must impress upon the danish goverment thee absolute necessity of out purchase of greenland we will meet their price whatsver. Being that we will be the leading component of this new northern alliance ae can take.this unscarred unblemishef land we can build a showcase society. For all our people while we rebuild restructure here. It can be a example for the other peoples of the world which they can view from afar real.far that is. What think ye?

          • The biggest enemy of whites are whites. This has been a thorn in our shoe since this experiment started. Splitting up is the only answer but will never be excepted by the forces of evil. The thought of White Christians prospering in their own land would only contribute to the already seething hatred that chaos has for us.

  2. Lincoln supposedly settled the question of whether it’s “legal” or possible to secede from the holy Union. So starting a new nation would be difficult. Most people just suppose the matter is a dead issue.

    As far as intrastate separations go, there have been failed efforts by rural parts of states to breakaway from the urban areas. I remember that some rural counties in Kansas wanted to separate and call themselves Paine. Every few years, northern Minnesotans get tired of being kicked around by the Twin Cities and put together proposals for a new state that go nowhere.

    That’s why I think there will be de facto secessions. As cultural and political divisions deepen, rural and urban areas will separate. States will have the same name, but actually be split in (at least) two parts. There will be autonomous regions within each state. Legislatively, that will probably mean splitting budgets and letting each region do as they see fit with their share. The process might be praised as a further expansion of the “laboratories of democracy” idea, but it would really be a divorce that staves off a civil war no one wants to fight. As the American Empire decays and weakens, I hope we’ll be able to split off from the multicultural CivNat regime and live more as we see fit.

    • We already have de facto secessions. Big, socialist “blue” cities have already seceded. Manhattan voted 86% for Hillary. In the Bronx it was 88%. The Constitution does not apply in New York. You have no “right”
      to own ANY gun. ALL guns must be registered if the government so chooses to grant you the temporary privilege of possessing one. You have no “right” to walk the street without being searched by the cops without a warrant. Everything is on camera. They have the biggest police force in the nation. The population is majority-minority. New York has the biggest Jewish population in the world outside of Israel. The mayor is a white communist who took his mother’s maiden name and married a coal-black lesbian and fathered two mulattoes with her. His predecessor was a Jewish multi-billionaire. It has the highest abortion rate and the highest taxes in the nation.

      That is not “America.” That is not a free country. It is a polyglot socialist clusterfuck, and they do whatever the hell they want an nobody can or will stop them.

      That is not MY country.

      • You’re describing the ability of cities to do as they like. I don’t know about recent times, but people in small towns used to be able to largely live as they wished. There’s an advantage to being under the radar. As work either moves away from cities due to safety, or because many jobs can now be done remotely, I think the appeal of rural areas will only grow. Especially as frustration with the woke society finally takes hold in the European heart and mind.

        • I hear these novep phrases everywhere wake up woke up. We need to wise up boy as my ole kentucky daddy would say!! I dont think we are going to be able to talk them to death people. Sooner or later. Some action will be requires but till our king commands !!! Hold fast dont anybody go out and do anything stupid!!! Remain at your post do your duty. !!! Therefore keep watch for you know not what hour the son of man come!!!

    • @Boomer…

      “That’s why I think there will be de facto secessions. As cultural and political divisions deepen, rural and urban areas will separate. States will have the same name, but actually be split in (at least) two parts. ”

      It sounds like you are describing what we already have now, Dear Boomer, so, it begs the question : ——— what you mean by this?

      Are you seeing free city-states, as they used to have in Europe, with the rest of the states governed as a whole, with a state capital relocated to a historic town?

      • We don’t have a rural/urban equality in terms of legal or economic control, though, Ivan. The seat of power is in the urban capitol. The rural is under the sway of the votes that come from the metropolis. I’m writing about a time when the rural/small town folk are more autonomous, when everything from small business regulations to educational policy are in their hands. Such is not the situation now. An autonomous region would be like a state within a state.

        In essence, we DON’T have de facto separation, because the rural part of the polity doesn’t have their say on most matters pertaining to themselves. The states will probably keep their shape, but ruling power will be diffused. I’m hoping for a variation of the Swiss canton model, as that strongly restricts the ability of centralized control to regain its grip on the people. But most likely, we will just have a state legislature and executive acting as a rubber stamp for what the various factions want, in order to keep the peace and maintain the appearance of unity.

        • @Boomer…

          Okay, I get it. So, to my way of thinking, we will evolve to an Olde Europe of different Confederacies and free city-states, or, as you suggest, the Swiss Canton style, which,. more or less, sounds like what we used to have here.

          For whatever it’s worth, I think this would be the best arrangement, because it would provide a lot of diversity that Federalism has extirpated.

          I think one of the geniuses of this country was that it’s founding provided for a lot of community diversity, and that was the key reason why my forefathers wore The Grey – to keep the diversity and local control.

          If memory serves, when Jefferson Davis boarded the train out of Richmond to Danville, on that early April night of 1865, he was heard to remark two things, one of which was that he was sure that there would be a day, perhaps 5 decades up the road, when Confederate ideas would once again come to be.

          Is this the 5th generation out?

          God bless you and yours, Sir!

  3. America may go the way of diverse India, with an obscene clique of plutocrats lording it over a poverty-stricken, billion-strong mass of Bruenenvolk.

    • @Banerjee…

      I would say that we, in the U.S., have headed off in y’all’s direction, though, in fairness, what you have described your country as is a good description of this land, before WWII.

      For centuries we had tremendous poverty in Dixie, with a very very powerful oligarch class.

      • The money is going bad. Rampant inflation is coming back, worse than the 1970’s. In 1975 NYC was bankrupt and Mayor Abraham Beame asked President Ford for Federal help. At first Pres. Ford said: ‘No!’ then, foolishly believing it would help him get re-elected, he agreed to the bailout. He lost in 1976 anyway. Good riddance.

        This scenario is going to be repeated all across the U.S. because everyplace is broke from overspending, over-borrowing and overtaxing. The Federal Government is bailing everyone out by printing money backed by hot air. This causes rapidly rising prices which creates chaos, especially in the cities. Maintenance on electrical, water, sewer, mechanical and other systems necessary for city life will rapidly decline because of financial difficulties.

        This will cause Whites of all or no political persuasions to flee to the suburbs and the countryside to get away from the vibrants and their chaos. The cities, with very few exceptions will be left to the dusky hordes who cannot do anything useful or pay taxes. Wakanda is fiction, there are no flying pyramids.

        The rapid decline of the U.S. dollar will be the catalyst for this trouble. For decades the vibrants have been paid off with welfare and other gibs to keep them quiet, they have been paid not to riot. When the dollar goes bad that strategy fails because the gibs fail.
        Don’t be near the vibrants when the gibs fail.

        The contrast with high functioning White areas will be even starker than now resulting in even more envy and hatred from the vibrants with their obvious failure to maintain civilization, again. The calls to destroy the suburbs will get louder in the name of “justice”. The Karens will be vilified by their chocolate colored friends to the point that even they will realize that they are in danger from the dusky hordes.

        At some point it will become obvious to the thickest numbskulls amongst White people that the dusky hordes hate all of us because we are White. Period. Your color is your uniform, whether you like it or not, whether your idiot college professor can prove it or not, no matter what the infallible guy on TV tells you either. This is the dividing line, not the Mason-Dixon line, not the Mississippi River nor the Rockies; the color line is and always will be the dividing line, whether you like it or not.

        • Right you are. About time somebody mentioned financial calamity. Because after all is said and done, that is what it’s about.

      • Its obviously a fake name. Banerjee is a brahmin surname and patel are middle class shudra merchants famous for running hotels.

        • Exactly. Banerjee is a Bengali Brahmin surname. Patels are mostly Gujarati shudras (are they running the hotels in Canada too? LOL).

          And, yes, “Banerjee Patel” is a fake name and probably a troll.

  4. there are large internal migrations taking place right now – numerous Whites leaving urban Jewscapes and fleeing to the countryside, or simply moving from “blue” state to “red” state. This is called

    choosing up sides. I myself will be evacuating central coast mexifornia and heading for flyover country ASAP, hopefully before the next fake-election.

    • But isn’t it mostly older folks with pensions, nest eggs, etc. who can just pick up and leave. Not everyone is in that category. I can’t see as how anyone cares if a bunch of boomers go live in the sticks or if it will make any difference. At least not for long.

    • @Lt. Col Boomer…

      Resettle in North Carolina, Sir.

      We are an open-carry state, with militias, friendly, polite, with many military retirees, such as yourself.

      We welcome Conservative Whites and life is still largely unspoilt here, outside of Charlotte and Asheville.

      You would feel right at home here – particularly in these rural parts – far Western Carolina, (not the Asheville area) Northern Central Carolina (Eden to Roanoke Rapids) and anywhere in Eastern North Carolina, which is filled full of people who think and feel as do you.

      You would be very very welcome here, Sir.

  5. The Racialist Right in America can be divided into three factions: One faction wants to return to the world of Mayberry and the Brady Bunch. Others think it is the night before Gettysburg when all things seemed possible. Another faction thinks it is in the Weimar Republic with change imminent in the air. The thing all these factions have in common is they are reactionary looking back to bygone times and ideologies that did not survive Liberal Modernity. Instead of thinking of multiple Ethno-States which will do nothing but dissipate our strength and empower China, and God knows who else on the world stage, what about granting complete and total independence to those areas in Anglo-America (the U.S. and Canada) that are non-white. (This will be our reparations to them) and then consolidate the remaining majority white and politically sane English speaking areas of the United States and Canada into one new metapolitical entity( United Albion, Albion United, or the United Anglo-American Union?) which in time could absorb the rest of the Anglo-Sphere elsewhere in the world. In other words maybe Ethno-Spheres, not Ethno-States, are the vision of the future we should adopt. It may be the only way we can challenge China on the world stage as Nation-States have been rendered obsolete because of national interdependence, free trade global capitalism, modern transportation and communication, and the malevolent influence of transnationalist elites within the Western world.

  6. I’m glad to see you entertaining ideas that a mere 5 years ago you would have discounted on this blog HW.
    I’m hoping that in the very near future you will advocate something that I have suggested for a long time here, under one pseudonym or another. Get prepared.
    The center will not hold and the rug is going to be violently yanked out from under the majority of Whites in this decade.
    Advocate for Preparedness. It’s a lot more than bunkers, guns and boogaloo fantasies for those of us that make Preparedness a lifestyle.

    Our future depends on it.

    • @Gunny…

      Yes, Sir – the centre is collapsing and, yes, the rug has been, is, and will be ‘yanked out from under Whites’ – and very possibly violently, at that.

      The only question in my mind left is : —- will we fight?

  7. The USA was founded by a group of Freemasons who were funded by the Jew Haym Salomon. I’m not sure if I would fight for a nation like that if I were American.

    • Our republic was founded by men who had/have no king but jesus who had/have no law but liberty!! If your land hasnt been able to produce men of that quality and calibre i offer you my sincerest condolences.

      • @Terry & Wrath…

        The truth, insofar as I know it, is that The United States was founded by a wide variety of men – from atheist Christian hating patriots like Thomas Payne, to deists like Ben Franklin, to a large Christian constituency of men whose name I do not recall, at present.

        Many of these men were masons, and some, like George Washington, were only nominally Christian, our first president attending Anglican Episcopal Church his whole life for reasons of propriety, but, only on his deathbed truly accepting Chryst, in his case, becoming a deathbed convert to Catholicism.

        Speaking for my own country, Dixie, it was not very Christian in the 18th century.

        This I know because of the comments of Confederate nurses, who were shocked to find that most of our soldiers were either not familiar with the bible, at all, or simply did not want to hear anything of it, even when close to dying.

        I think The South started to become very Christian when The Army of northern Virginia become very religious in the last years of the war.

        To be clear, New England was only the country that was very religious – right from the start.

        The Religion of the South was : —— ‘leave me alone to tend to my life, in the here and now.’

        • Thank you sir for sharing that with me sir i wholeheartedly believe you. If i may take the liberty i would like to share a thought with you..the blood that flows thru my veins the name i carry are of a people who served the 45th n.caralina inf under the command of gen.early they took the fight as close to the heart of the beast as anyone did my family also served with distinction for 4 years in the virginia millitia 1777 1781 that makes dixie my country too. I tell you truthfully sir marse robert still has plenty of soldiers everwhere and quite a few right here sir i love my people so i wont hold that slight against you at all.but please know this there a whole lot more than me with the same kind of circumstances. You have a great mind i love your post i hope the weather is as nice where your at as it is here. I am honared that you would even respond to me . i thank you i pray the lord bless and keep you and yours.

          • @Terry…

            Thank you so much, Sir, for the generosity of your thoughtful and very deeply feeling reply!

            I apologize for any slight you felt, for I had no intention of making one.
            I only wanted to try and contribute to the conversation about our forefathers, a level of nuance I felt it was lacking.

            I live in the Northeastern part of North Carolina and, like you, am a descendent of those who served as colonels in the Virginia Militias that fought the Indian Wars of the 17th & 18th centuries, and, as well, those Southerners who fought for Georgia, Virginia, and North Carolina in the 1st Revolutionary War of the 1770s, and, the 2nd Revolution of The 1860s.

            I am not in the SCV because, in my state, those in charge of it do not want secessionists and living Confederates, which is what I am.

            Thank you so very much for your kind comments as to my mind!

            I hope you will regularly come to this blog, as I have for years, for there are many many fine minds here, and, like us, many are not only descendents of Confederates, but, more importantly, hold that spirit alive in their souls.

            Some people here will assault you, but, try not to take that to heart. Most of us are oriented towards polite debate.

            Also, Mr. Griffin, the author of this blog, is not only a true Southern patriot, who has long riskt his life and liberty to say the truth each and eve’ry dang day, he is extremely learned about the history of this country, and as well, a peerless investigative reporter.

            Again, God bless you & yours, Dear Terry!

        • ….on his deathbed truly accepting Chryst, in his case, becoming a deathbed convert to Catholicism.

          This never happened. Why are you making things up, Ivan?

          • @Marcus…

            Why do you believe, Sir, that, every time you encounter history you don’t like, that the reporter of the information is dissembling?

            Instead of regaling me, go find the corroborating info.

            It’s there, and very easy to have, if you want to find it.

          • It’s there, and very easy to have, if you want to find it.

            If it is so easy to find, then it must be easy for you provide a primary source or a corroborating eyewitness account of Washington’s alleged Catholic conversion.

            Of Washington’s final hours, we have the account of Tobias Lear, his long-time secretary:

            https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Washington/06-04-02-0406-0002

            There was no mention of Christ or Catholicism on his death bed. He did not send for a priest or minister even when he knew he was dying.

            You have a history of making ridiculously false statements, Ivan, and here, too, you are making up fake history.

  8. Two Words – unintended consequences. As an example, look at prohibition. It had quite a few unintended consequences. The top one is Organized crime ( and the Feds to combat them) but it also caused the female Alcoholism rate to skyrocket ( Betcha most people didn’t even know that. This is especially ironic considering women were behind the whole temperance movement.)
    Why do I mention this? Because there are going to be all kinds of unintended consequences this time around as well. Grab your popcorn, it’s gonna be quite the show. One thing I can foresee happening is that YT will finally shake off the whole “ White man’s burden” nonsense we’ve been laboring under( in one form or another) for over a century. That alone should make for some interesting times.

    • Could somebody anwser me this when the breakdown/collapse comes whats gonna happen with these nuclear power plants? Our weaponry?

      • @Terry…

        No one can really know what would happen, Dear Terry, if we are to be honest.

        Moreover, we do not know if there will be a breakdown so extreme that there would be no security around nuclear power plants and installations with other weaponry.

        To be clear, this kind of situation did occur in Russia, in the 1990s, after the dissolution of the Soviet Union.

        Fortunately, nothing catastrophick ensued.

        The premise you are broaching is something on a level of Omega Man, and, The Good Lord willing, there will be none of that.

        In my view, two scenarios are most likely –

        #1. The country continues to go through the upheaval, though, after another 5 or 10 years of it, exhaustion sets in and the upheaval stops.

        I saw this occur as a boy in the 1960 – 1970s, everything growing calm after Nixon left office in August of ’74.

        That was a full decade of upheaval.

        #2. The country begins to break up into different confederacies, or which there are several models – A. Confederacies baset on regionality, confederacies baset on race, or, what I feel is most likely – confederacies baset on politicks – i. e. – a division between leftist coastal big cities versus conservative smalltown and rural areas.

        If President Trump wins the election, and or the election is disputed, and he refused to leave, I think you will see a coastal western secession of sorts, though how it will be exactly or worded I know not.

        How other big liberal cities, such as Chicago, Raleigh, Boston, Richmond, or New York, would fit into such a scenario is enigmatic, because, geographically speaking, most of them are in Red State Country and very far flung from each other.

        In my view, there will likely occur a reorganization of the actual states themselves.

        Along this line I refer to the legislature of West Virginia that, just last year offered rural countries in Virginia an invitation to leave Virginia and join their state!

        I know that one state I live in, is not formally acknowledged, but, it does very much exist, and that is the entire area within 30 miles north of south of the NC/Virginia border.

        This area is still living largely like folks did 50,60, and or 70 years back – very very Southern.

        I refer to this area as the 12th Confederate state – ‘ Virlina’.

      • The nuclear plants themselves are bad enough, but do people realize how much nuclear waste is stored in cooling ponds like in Fukushima? Joy.

        Oh, here’s another one I’ve thought about. Do people realize that the CDC stores deadly diseases ( ostensibly to have samples to create vaccines, study, etc in case of an outbreak, etc.) now what happens if deadly contagious pathogen(s) (say like ebola) escapes from their labs during Civil unrest. How many private/University labs also have deadly contagious diseases stored for study? How secure would any of this stuff be during a societal breakdown?

        I’m sure people can think of a lot of other things as well. It’s stuff like this that is gonna sneak up and bite everyone in the butt.

        • Very good comment, Adit. Even if society does not break down, nuclear waste is not secure, and lasts “forever,” and nuclear power plants leak constantly. And yes, even “level three” biological “research” facilities are not fail-safe.

  9. Ivan if i make address you familiar kind sir something i find sir so very sad there are plenty of good folk in california in places like bakersfield fresno etc..i want to express my.solidarity with them and to reassure them we.are not deserting you ! Satan you and those who serve you know this.you have lost and everything you have taken.weare going to take back.god willing!!!

    • If i may people. Mr.g ghost not only has a good idea but thee only idea we must prepare.a develop a.fall back plan we all know where we are headed we couldnt stop this train if we wAnted too its too far gone its too late. Too fail to prepare is to fail our kith our kin i am not interested in the same ole bs with a different flag i am commited to victory our victory nothiing else. I would like to address our soldiers in the field please remain at your post continue with your duty no wack job lone wolf activity you will only wreck yourself and weaken. And bring reproach upon us all watch how you carry yourself.you represent us all these same police that antifa blm nfac hate will arrest and put you in jail if you break the law. You have the right to protect.you and yours same as anyone else but rememher our lords admonishment ” be wise as a serpent but harmless as a dove” be smart be safe we need you.if i may return to my earlier premise. I propose we put together a confederate general staff. I say this in all seriousness. We have millitary issues that must be dealt with. If the republic truly falls i.do not trust satan and those who serve him to have anything carriers submarine fleet air weaponry space forces assets ie. Special forces special ops etc what are we goi g to do about these wicked intelligence agencies research development issues whatever is at area 51 i want it for us and ahatever else their hiding from us i want it all for us all of it let me repeat all of it folks i am concerned about civil war within our millitary did you see how blatantly.brazenly.insolently.condradicted his own commander in chief publicly.the.way sec of.defence esper did yesterday concerning beirut.we need to watch this closely we also need our best minds working on this once again i propose developing establishing a csa 2.0 general staff. Its late sleep well everyone hVe a good night

  10. If there is such a thing as “Modernism,” like any other trend, fad or fashion, it will pass away, but USURY, and the lust for wealth and the Power that comes from holding immense wealth, will endure. (But truth is even stronger and will last forever.) Let’s get to the age-old root of the problem not just look at a recent twig.

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