Editor’s Note: Eventually, the woke mob will topple the Statue of Liberty for being offensive after first blowing up Mount Rushmore and the Washington Monument.
Yes, I have healthy Old English Tory sympathies which used to be present in the Old South, being brought here by way of Colonial Virginia, Barbados, Colonial South Carolina, etc. pic.twitter.com/uJyiNUehwc— ??CarolinaCavalier?? (@oldcarolinian) July 11, 2020
The Old Tory Doctrine of England:— ??CarolinaCavalier?? (@oldcarolinian) July 8, 2020
– patriarchy, aristocracy, order, traditional Christianity, traditional family values, localism/community, & agrarian values needs to be revived in the Old Southern Mainland Colonies & American South which did have a sense of this in its past. pic.twitter.com/jzwSASPP46
We are living a Whiggish Nightmare.— ??CarolinaCavalier?? (@oldcarolinian) July 2, 2020
As I told Thomas Main, it is widely admitted these days on both the Left and the Right that liberalism has failed. Patrick Deneen recently debated Jonah Goldberg on the subject.
“Most people agree that a defining feature of America is that it is a liberal nation. In a way, that is not true of any other country—most of which have known different forms of political governance and political self-understanding. From its political inception, America has oftentimes been defined by its adherence to liberal philosophy. Conservatives such as George Will and Jonah Goldberg, and liberals such as Yascha Mounk and Barack Obama—for all their differences—believe that America is liberal, and that the way out of our current political brokenness is to restore its liberal foundations. …
These Abrahamic traditions, in their various ways, taught radically different lessons about ourselves: including the belief that “independence” from others and from nature is not the true form of freedom, but the longing that drove Lucifer from heaven; that rights are merely aggressions against others without more fundamental duties and obligations; that human society and government is rightly ordered and directed by natural and eternal laws, and not infinitely malleable according to human caprice.
American liberalism was feasible only because America wasn’t fully liberal. But today, we have become what our liberal philosophy imagined us to be: free of obligation and responsibility to each other, free of duties to past and future generations, masters of nature that we regard as our possession to use and abuse, consumers rather than citizens. …
An older—and truer—conservatism recognized that economic health was essential to human flourishing, but was as wary of too much wealth and too much inequality as it was of too little prosperity. …
Conservatives of an older tradition measured the health of society not based upon a purely material basis—such as Marx or Goldberg, in their differing ways—but upon the overall health of its institutions and readily available shared decencies, especially to ordinary people. …
Our politics today has become so unsettled and ferocious because liberalism has failed. It failed not because it fell short of its vision of the isolated and autonomous human person, and the effort to construct a society indifferent to questions of the common good—but because it succeeded in doing so.”
I enjoyed how Deneen name-dropped Lucifer there who was the first egalitarian. He talks about an “older” and “truer” tradition of conservatism which is better than conservative liberalism. I also noticed how Tucker Carlson used the word “diabolical” on his show the other night.
The spirit of liberalism is diabolical. It is always either engaged in its project of loosening up the bonds of society, which it calls “freedom,” or tearing down and leveling the social order, which it calls “equality.” It defines “progress” as the success it has had in turning the world upside down.
“Let me start with a concession: Things are not going great right now in America. I feel this needs little elaboration, so I will just assert it. I do so to grant that this is not the ideal time for a conservative like me to disagree with a conservative like Patrick Deneen on the comparative merits and successes of Liberalism.
Now, of course, what we mean by Liberalism here is not progressivism, woke-ism, or anything else your typical right-wing radio host—or left-wing MSNBC host—means by liberalism. That’s why, for clarity’s sake, I’ll use a capital “L” for the Liberalism we associate with John Locke, Adam Smith, David Hume and aspects of the various social transformations that fall under the all-too-capacious catchall label, “the Enlightenment.” (There were many Enlightenments—English, Scottish, French, American and even German—and not all of their contributions were equal or necessarily positive. But I’ll use the catchall term regardless, for the sake of simplicity.) …”
Jonah Goldberg defends conservative liberalism.
He basically echoes Deirdre McCloskey’s arguments which I responded to last year.