The Porn Debate: E. Michael Jones vs. Styxhexenhammer666

E. Michael Jones is right.

Porn is a scourge. We live in a deregulated culture that has been flooded by hardcore pornography which is now easily accessible on smartphones. This is a very recent historical development of the last 25 years. American society has become more permissive than it had previously been in the past because of series of federal court decisions that relaxed obscenity laws.

Unfortunately, this debate between E. Michael Jones and Styxhexenhammer666 got stuck on the absurd question of “how do you know that porn is addictive” with Jones insisting that he didn’t need a study to know this and Styx taking the disingenuous position that there are different studies that say different things. It would have been more productive to focus the question on the volume of pornography that is being consumed and where it is being consumed.

Pornhub is ranked as the 7th largest website in the United States and the 10th largest website in the world. It got 2.71 billion visits in November and 24% of its traffic came from the United States. Xvideos is the 10th largest website in the United States and the 7th largest website in the world. It got 3.10 billion visits in November and 16% of its traffic came from the United States. Of the Top 15 websites in the United States, Pornhub, Xvideos and Xnxx are porn sites. The only websites in the United States which have more traffic than Pornhub are Google, YouTube, Facebook, Amazon, Yahoo and Twitter. Pornhub has more traffic than Instagram and Reddit. Styx’s position that online pornography isn’t addictive is laughable. Compare Pornhub’s traffic ranking to Betnow.eu which is a top online sports gambling site.

According to Styx, the government can’t do anything about online pornography because banning it would only drive it underground and create a black market. He also claims that St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas are antiquated and have nothing of relevance to say about pornography in advanced modern liberal society. It is also impossible for the government to legislate morality. In contrast to Styx’s libertarianism, the People’s Republic of China has banned and suppressed pornography as “spiritual pollution” and those who are found guilty of producing, disseminating and selling pornography can be sentenced to life in prison.

While there are still Coomers in China who are locked in a perpetual battle with the Chinese state, we can easily contrast porn consumption in the United States under neoliberalism with porn consumption in Xi Jinping’s authoritarian China. There isn’t a single adult website in the Top 50 websites in China. The Chinese are not consuming pornography at anywhere near the rate of Americans. The Chinese government can and has regulated morality in China. It is a choice to live in a libertarian society with a deregulated and degenerate culture.

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    • Two guys the elties don’t gibe a damn about debate whether porn should be banned.

      The only way porn will be banned is after the United States is smashed to pieces.

      • A solution might be, put a gigantic excise tax on all commercial porn, a crushing tax.

        Then the available porn would be amateur private stuff without profit incentive.

        The quality could only improve 🙂

    • Yeah, they’re probably my least two favorite people. Jones more so because he’s smart academically but his conclusions and assumptions are laughable dog shit. Jones has argued that man sleeping with lots of women is akin to homosexuality, he also describes homosexuality as *the same* as heterosexual debauchery. (It isn’t)

      E. Michael Jones and Styx lack humanity, Jones thinks ALL humans are dirty perverse primitive savages without Christianity and styx thinks humans are bound to no one and thus have no one. Ironically Jones agrees with styx about humans not being bound to other humans but instead bound to God.

      Jones’s and styx preach the politics of personal responsibility which is a trap for white people. Obviously personal character should matter to you but peoples behavior has very little trickle up effect on culture.

      We are not going to no fap or come up with market based plans to get out from under the thumb of global capital and organized jewry.

      Weaponizing the market is something a wealthy white person needs to do, but it wont be about providing a better service and letting it win out in the market place. Any market ideas that would at all be realistically desirable would be if wealthy whites strategically targeted bottle necks of markets. And that’s not what styx means when he says it.

      Outside of his research Jones is equally worthless. Jones has zero desire to undermine church leadership and try to get them out, his response is pray and be a good Catholic(whatever that means)

      Jones and Styx are much closer that people would think from the surface level, but scratch just beneath the surface and you’ll find they both tell you “be the change you want to see in the world”

      Which is just the elites telling you to fuck off. Oh you wanting better living environment? Well be the changed you want to see…

      • ” Jones thinks ALL humans are dirty perverse primitive savages without Christianity”

        And he’s right. Atheism and Paganism have done nothing to reverse the decline of the west.

        • Jones thinks ALL humans are dirty perverse primitive savages without Christianity”

          “And he’s right”

          Speak for yourself. Not everyone needs to somehow attach Jewish Rabbi Yeshua to their psyche in order to not be a “dirty perverse primitive savage.”

          It doesn’t put you or Christians in a very good light.

      • “ALL humans are dirty perverse primitive savages without Christianity…” – Strawman, indeed!
        THEY ARE.

        “Ye are dead in trespasses and sins.” – St. Paul, apostle to the Romanity.

        And only Whites are the race for which Christ died, because only whites are the ‘seed’ of which Adam was created [ Heb. “fair, ruddy, able to [visibly] blush”- Strong’s concordance).

        ‘He came to save HIS People from THEIR sins.” [ Matt. 1:21] Not all, not every last bushman, mestizo, cholo, chink, or Amerindian. ONLY the “World” (Ecumene) of the people of the Roman Empire.

  1. It’s pretty easy to find the more intense and unsavory genres on tube sites these days. Stuff you only used to be able to find on BitTorrents or Tor. If you find yourself watching that stuff, or engaging in “free speech” alone for a few hours – you’ve got yourself a problem.

    Wish I’d never seen that garbage, I’ve chosen porn over real women numerous times. It’s not just benign images of naked chicks.

    • There is no doubt that porn is addictive.

      the problem with any addiction is the lack of will power to break away from that addiction, whether it’s smoking, drinking and so on.

      • What has broken the addiction to it for me was Maxwell Maltz’s book Psycho Cybernetics and his reference to the work of Prescott Lecky. Willpower might get you to a month clean from any substance. What any “addict” needs is a complete and total restructuring of their personality.

        If you view yourself as being an addict inherently, no matter the period of sobriety there will always be the risk of relapse or a new addiction.

        P.S. Yes, Maltz is Jewish. But, his work and premise has a validity beyond the classic Jewish psychoanalysis mindfuck nonsense. And the fact that none of his fellow Jews ever lauded his work has removed a great deal of my personal suspicion.

        • “P.S. Yes, Maltz is Jewish. But, his work …..”

          Probably plagiarized.

          Not that I’m a cynic on jewish accomplishments….

    • @lycurgus

      “Wish I’d never seen that garbage, I’ve chosen porn over real women numerous times.”

      That’s the malevolent design of the kosher krew.
      Your experience is repeated by 10s of millions other White males.

      The result, no healthy family formations and bright smiling children.
      With a consequence of race mixing for those without a White partner.

      The sadistic design was cast long ago.


    • “Wish I’d never seen that garbage, I’ve chosen porn over real women numerous times.”

      I hope many others can read that and profit by your regret.

  2. “Porn is addictive”
    It sure isn’t opioid or crystal meth. The problem is the lack of basic willpower among the dissolute. Some of them have come to blame pr0n for their dissolute ways making their lives suck.
    http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2018/12/08/if-not-fapping-makes-you-so-energetic-and-creative-why-are-nofap-memes-so-lazy-and-terrible/
    Are they going to take basic steps to stop being flacid, uninspired weaklings? Nope, cuz you know, that requires actual effort. -)

    I’m not against memes and so on but there’s a actual race war going on, even if it has not turned to open war just yet. It is far past time to be serious about it.
    Think more like Bismarck or Lenin during the civil war, not some Evangicuck that does not even know what the Federal Reserve is.

  3. Styx is such a homo. Styx isn’t pagan, he is a liberal wiccan hippie who thinks witches are cool… Libertarian faggot

    • Ancient European pagans were actually quite moral.

      Germans as described by Tacitus enforced the death penalty against homosexuals, and Rome in the days of Cato the censor would never allow pornography or sorcery or any of the other trash promoted by libertarians.

      Modern “pagans” derive their religion from Jewish-written novels such as Wickerman and Equus. not from the puritanical warrior paganism of our European ancestors.

    • Aye blue division!

      Yep, like the other commenter said and I’m sure you know Tacitus (Roman historian) wrote about the germanic pagans engaging in monogamy. Centuries before Christianity. Styx would’ve had a very hard time in pagan Europe

  4. I’d rather gargle glass than watch Styx, and EMJ’s “Catholicism will make Kenyans into Germans” schtick is CivNat on bad acid. So I’ll stick with your summary of the debate. I’m surprised that the deleterious effects of porn on the individual and society weren’t discussed, outside of the ridiculous back and forth over addiction.

    • “Catholicism will make Kenyans into Germans”

      That is such an absurd concept, but the protestants think much the same way.

      • This, and THIS ALONE, is the ‘bitter fruit’ of the Roman Schism. It even affected Russian Orthodox society, after the Lutheranization ‘reforms’ of Peter the (no so) great and Catherine. That Empire is synonymous with expansion of land, along with the ‘conversion’ of peoples that never were included in the “Great Commission.” The O.T. rule and attendant enslavement under a benevolent [Christian] Hierarch, yes.

        Full equality in the Kingdom, NO. (which not even the Church can give – witness the forbidding by the H.S. of preaching the Gospel in Asia- ” 6 Now when they had gone through Phrygia and the region of Galatia, they were forbidden by the Holy Spirit to preach the word in Asia. “)

        If the ‘sons of Adam’ (Heb.- ‘he who is fair, ruddy, able to [visibly] blush’) are to JUDGE ANGELS, [ I Cor. 6:3] HOW MUCH MORE, the non-Adamic races?

        This site has only confirmed that the South was correct in ruling over the lesser races. Where she erred, was in attempting to make the Negro their soteriological equal… something the entire O.T. is adamantly (Adam-antly?) against. Which means the N.T. is in full agreement with it, and any – ANY ‘interpretation’ that differs from that – is of SATAN.

        Or of his seed, the Jews. [John 8:44]

  5. Out of curiosity I have visited the pornhub site a few times. And I can assure my readers I did not become “addicted”. Truth be told I think HW’s site is far more addictive!

    • Yes, but you have a brain. Most adolescents, in the first flush of hormonal activity, don’t…. And what is not sin for one man (and, for the record, I am NOT saying, viewing porn, is NOT sin- it is!) may not be for another…..

      but your point is taken. With a grain of salt, but it is taken….

  6. Again……..
    Banning porn in the digital age isn’t possible.

    We have to find another angle to attack this beast. We need to find ways to help good quality Whites to avoid this snare.

    Porn is very addictive, for SOME people, others not so.

    I agree with Anglin, on this issue, lift , exercise, and find creative uses for your time and energy.

    We must find another angle of attack.

    • This is the most reasonable response I’ve seen to the porn question so far. Banning it in America under some FCC regulation is highly unlikely. They tried the whole decency angle with Larry Flint and lost. Now the internet exists and the genie is never going back in the bottle.

      As for porn addiction, some people are extremely susceptible to it. For others, they view it with total ambivalence, porn neither titillates or disgusts. Personally, opioids don’t do much for me, and I’ve had broken bones and reconstructive surgeries with extreme acute pain that necessitated their use. I never developed a need for them, however, others appear to have appear a little bit of a problem with them.

      • Same with me on the opioids. I never wanted the stuff, and refused it when I was fully aware enough to do so. I had a sense they were giving me poison when I had some.

    • “We must find another angle of attack. “

      Self improvement, empowering one’s self, what ever that might mean for some people, is always a great advice.

      • This runs counter to the common moral narrative.

        Good quality White males need to become more self-centered.
        In that, I mean , stop looking for external sources that aren’t self-beneficial….drugs, alcohol, porn, careless sex, female approval. Instead, go for things with tangible long term benefits.

  7. The usual divide on issues like this one, is do you have children. Even Steven Jobs, who was no friend of the Right, who had children, did not want porn easily available. Children has changed more than one Libertarian into a populist. I noticed this with feminists to. I’ve seen more than one feminist become more culturally conservative than the Amish, when her own daughter was involved. Styx, has no children as far as I know. His opinion if he ever do could be interesting.

  8. He may be right, but the government would at least appear to be making an effort even if it in reality it can’t do much. It’s sort of the thought that counts.

  9. If the definition of pornography is where a close up of the actual sex act is performed then I have never seen porn. I have no idea whether pornography is addictive or not.

    Only one of my girl friends has now seen porn. She accessed it easily on the internet. She is not exactly college age. She said not only did it not leave anything to the imagination but that it was dumb. A movie with no acting, budget, or plot cheapened the concept of sex. So pornography was not addictive to her but everyone knows that men are more interested in us than the opposite.

    That is because our bodies are made for beauty and to give and receive love. Men’s bodies are made for strength and utility.

    So even without the morality issue magazines and films like that seem worthless.

    For someone named Styxhexenhammer666 to pretend that St.Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas are irrelevant but that somehow he is relevant was so ridiculous that I was amazed. By the way where do these weird names come from?

    E. Jones and styxhexenhammer666 have nothing in common. Therefore a debate between them was bound to be fruitless.

      • Arian,

        Yes. It appears that males hang by a thread at all times. That is why we have to dress and act modestly in order to limit the arousement of guys.

        We were taught not to bend over to pick up an object in class but to kneel and pick it up. In school with our dresses we also have long leggings/stockings.

        As long as a guy is not obese and does not look like Frankenstein a man’s looks will not disqualify him from a pretty girl by most of us.

        • @Cristina

          “That is why we have to dress and act modestly in order to limit …”

          In an all White society, none of that is necessary.
          In pre-mud Sweden, ppublic nudity and sexes intermingled was common in Summer observance. All White societies are a different world.

          • Arian,

            You describe a world I have never experienced. My only experiences are in Mexico and the USA. I have heard Swedish girls have been relaxed for a long time but I suppose rape was rare until recently.

          • This,I live near the beach,in the summer(december,january,febuary) this place is full of tourists,needless to say there is a lot of skin showing.I think the scenario arian describes is plausible,since the only ones who cannot take a bit of skin are niggers and boomers.

        • “As long as a guy is not obese and does not look like Frankenstein a man’s looks will not disqualify him from a pretty girl by most of us.”
          Good one HAHAHAHA

    • It would be hard to even compare the porn of today to porn five years ago. Without going into detail, I’d say that I’m astounded to see what people would tolerate being done to their body – for any sum of money.

      It’s not so much sexual in nature as sadistic. And very specific fetishes and paraphillias.

      Your naivety regarding knowledge of porn is refreshing to hear Cristina. I feel like McConaughey from True Detective explaining modern culture these days.

      • @Cristina
        “You describe a world I have never experienced.”

        I’ve been in all White areas where women wear string thongs and less. The worst aggression they encountered was a long whistle, which was returned with big smiles.

        A White society…..

      • Lycurgus,

        Thank you for the sweetness of your reply. Sorry for replying so late to your comment but I was gone until recently.

  10. I’m glad I grew up in the era before widespread internet porn. By the time it came around I had already dated and married. I typically have libertarian instincts but E. Michael Jones’ work on porn – and his revealing illustration about Israel broadcasting porn on Palestinian TV during their invasion – has changed my mind.

    Also I’ve read a lot of radical feminist opinion on pornography and prostitution and they also helped convince me.

    Going to war against the porn industry – which is centered around the company MindGeek – would be a win for White people.

    It’s become blatantly obvious that a major tool of Jewish control over America is sexual blackmail, such as the Jeffrey Epstein/Ghislaine Maxwell ring. Pornography is a form of social grooming and white American girls are trafficked all over the world. It’s intolerable.

    The US Empire and Israel are major traffickers of Eastern European girls. This is modern white slavery and it is being done to our people. The story of CIA officer Richard Fuisz and his trafficking of underage girls from post-collapse Russia to New York City as “models” is a story more need to understand.

    Everything about pornography and prostitution is evil and anti-white.

  11. A two point critique, with the whole discussion.

    First, EM Jones, handled his argumentation and his issues adversary in a biased and non-constructive manner.

    – government IS NOT the solution to a problem – here “styxx” is correct.
    An A-MORAL bureaucracy cannot and SHOULD not make decisions of morality.

    – Families/parents need to take responsibility of their children’s actions/habits/social life/well-being and not pawn it off to a government. Parents today in our societies are 9 times out 10 the REAL PROBLEM with anything that has to do with their children

    The solution is what Plato and Aristotle had claimed.
    Culture and morality is a TOP – DOWN exercise that the Aristocracy (elites for today) need to cultivate and promote. WE NEED BETTER ELITES for today.


    That is the problem with traditional Catholicism, they still carry the attitude that the Vatican is Christ’s mouthpiece – we have great examples of how that went wrong.

    It’s called GRIEVOUS ABUSE OF POWER and ARBITER of every day life even who lives and dies !

    that crap turned European away from Christianity faster then even the Devil hoped for.

    • “… government IS NOT the solution to a problem – here “styxx” is correct.
      An A-MORAL bureaucracy cannot and SHOULD not make decisions of morality.”

      But ALL governments are ordained of God. That they are immoral is not God’s fault.
      Nevertheless, Communist governments cracked down on porn, while they were ‘immoral.’
      Were they wrong in doing so? Are WE in the West, correct, in NOT doing so?

      No. The duty of government is to help its citizens be productive in their divine calling.
      Porn- any element of it – is NOT one of those callings.

  12. “Everything about pornography and prostitution is evil and anti-white.”

    It takes something nice and throws it into the gutter.

  13. Porn should be banned but it won’t be and so people should just ban it in their own lives. It’s time to move on now.

    The only important thing that I see happening, which could jolt the Overton Window, was just brought to light by Bill Buckshot.

    Israel is dropping bombs on Syrian Christian Damascus at Christmastime just like they did last year. They think no one is going to notice or care and they’re right.

    If pro-Christian Fuentes, Casey, and the Groypers were smart and politically adept, they would highlight this since the highlight is on them.

    Instead, they’re celebrating like they accomplished something when Zlimpf and his family completely support TPUSA and are glad they banned Fuentes from the premises all while Fuentes will still be voting for Zlimpf in November…..

    Ha!

  14. The problem of porn, is that people are bored with their normie lives and are looking for kicks and kinks.

    Shortly, when the economy collapses and people have real things to think about, porn will be reslized to be a luxurious use of time we cannot afford to tolerate in ourselves.

    In the meantime, we have bigger issues to resolve.

  15. Should pornograpy be banned? Well, how do we define pornograpy? Is there a checklist of certain criteria that we can agree upon that certifies some image, video, fictional or non-fictional ‘literature, or audio as to be so universally objectionable, repugnant, noxious, or depraved that no ‘sensible’ adult would disagree with those parameters? Probably not. I don’t believe we can rely on former USAG Edwin Meese’s We know it when we see it” explanation for clarity.

    The reason I’ve raised these questions is because of something like the Kama Sutra which was written between 400 BCE-300CE. I am not sure if this ancient Sanskrit text with sexual illustrations was banned in National Socialist Germany.

    Okay. We of the White dissident right are most likely in more or less agreement about what constitutes pornograpy deserving of being banned in a healthy society. Obviously, we need to do something about raising White children in an X-rated culture brought to us by the usual suspects.

    • It’s actually quite easy to define porn. Here’s one of the definitions given by the American Heritage Dictionary: “Sexually explicit writing, images, video, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal.” Pornographers have further delineations of hardcore and softcore, not to mention all the genres they’ve come up with themselves. When people bring up difficulties of definition, what they tend to mention is classical art. That is a relativistic smokescreen. If you can’t tell the dissimilarities (artistic and otherwise) between, say, Botticelli’s “Birth of Venus” and Debbie Does Dallas, you shouldn’t be trusted with shoelaces.

      Some people talk about the difficulty of policing content. Really? Tell it to the Chinese gov’t. Google and other tech companies cooperate in censoring the net there. Yes, people will be able to get obscene films and whatnot. But it will be much more difficult, won’t it? The financial and social costs will be greater, as they should be for culturally destructive and denigrative activities.

      Having said all that, I’m not for banning. That gives certain things a “coolness,” or a social cachet. No, porn should be treated like the filthy thing it is. Instead of unholy preaching about the sanctity of the market, and making parents solely responsible for keeping inappropriate content out of the home, relegate porn to certain well-policed areas of the net. Porn shops used to be limited to certain parts of town and were age-restricted, so parents didn’t have to do all the censoring of trash by themselves. Do the same on the net.

      • Boomer X,

        I read that definition of pornograpy a few weeks ago when this issue was discussed in “The Final Solution to the Coomer Question.”

        Yesterday, I saw an attractive woman in her early 20s wearing yoga pants Christmas shopping. Let me tell you, I was aroused. Not to the point of my pants becoming uncomfortable, but naughty thoughts went trough my mind. I am sure that same could be said on the average summer day at the beach no matter if a woman with curves is wearing a one piece of string bikini swimsuit.

        That’s a straw man argument to say that those who insist on a logical definition of pornograpy are utilizing a “relativistic smokescreen.”

        If you ever watch television shows from before 1972, married couples were shown sleeping in separate beds because of the prudes uptight moralistic silliness. Children in the 50s-60s knew that their mothers and fathers slept on the same mattress together. After all, their are some some religious zealots who would want to put a blouse on the Veus de Milo, and as I wrote on another thread a fig leaf over Michaelagelo’s sculpture of David.

        That being said, it would do our world, civilization, culture, and society a lot of good to rid ourselves of this pestilence.

        • You talk about prudes, but want “this pestilence” gone. You call my choosing of a fairly specific definition “strawmanning,” but then go on to put a stereotypical label on those you disagree with. If you want the cultural pestilence gone, how are you going to do it?

          And why share your arousal story? I honestly don’t get the point of that. Who is relegating regulation to stereotypical opposing sides of an ideological coin, btw? Why would things be handled the same in New York as they would in Alabama?

          • The dictionary definition of pornograpy isn’t the strawman argument. But stating that pornograpy can be categorized easily is an either or dichotomy is a fallacy and not a “relativistic smokescreen.”

            The reason I brought up the pretty woman in the yoga pants was that while not a photographic image, it left little to the imagination, and a heterosexual male would sexually aroused by such a sight. The same goes for most one piece swimsuits and especially bikinis. Women don’t wear these articles of clothing or lack there of not to be sexually fetching, so is that pornograpy?

      • Boomer X,

        What it all boils down to me personally is that I don’t want to entrust libertarians or the religious right to be the final arbiters of what is or isn’t permissible.

  16. You can’t ban all porn per se but that sort of absolutist thinking is misguided.

    The commercial production of it can legally be shut down and those producing it arrested/executed.

    This would go a long way toward fixing global society.

  17. According to Styx, the government can’t do anything about online pornography because banning it would only drive it underground and create a black market.

    Nothing wrong with driving the pornography industry underground. Sexual degeneracy of all kinds needs to be driven underground and/or back in the “closet” where it belongs. Someone above said pornography certainly isn’t opioids or crystal meth. That’s true enough as far as it goes, but whether or not pornography is as bad an addiction as drug abuse is sort of beside the point. Pornography destroys lives and destroys families. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure this out and understand why. There are about a gazillion articles out there that explain all of this. It isn’t like it’s any big secret or anything that many of the young women who enter the industry also become drug addicts and/or alcoholics on top of it, and often commit suicide or otherwise have suicidal tendencies. But anyway,…

    This all ties back to your articles from awhile back castigating the fourteenth amendment and so called “Incorporation.” Under the new constitution we’re put into a situation that we must have this degenerate crap shoved down our throats and have “freedom” good and hard. There are any number of states and local communities I can think of off the top of my head who would certainly ban pornography within their jurisdictions were it not for SCOTUS and the fedgov forcing “freedom” on us at the point of a gun. “Conservative” commentator Cal Thomas wrote a syndicated oped a few years ago castigating the Supremes following the “Mortal Combat” decision. He wondered aloud who in his right mind truly believed that Thomas Jefferson had violent and sexually explicit video games in mind when he talked about freedom of the press. I wrote a letter to the editor of one of the liberal rags which carried the article, simply pointing out that none of us ought to speculate about what Jefferson’s (et al) thoughts were on the matter when we have his own words to refer back to. Jefferson (among others) said on more than one occasion that the Constitution makes us several as to ourselves, one as to all others. When he spoke of regulating morals, he spoke of state and local authorities doing this within their own jurisdictions because these are the natural and most proper authorities to do so (or not). If Alabama or Oklahoma or Texas (et al) want to ban pornography within their own jurisdictions, what the hell is it to the idiots in Boston or New York or San Franciso?

    The bottom line is that we’re never going to agree on such matters – some of us are godless moral degenerates, some of us aren’t; some of us are more or less indifferent to all of this, some of us aren’t – this isn’t exactly a new revelation! The separation is coming; it’s just a matter of time.

    • T. Morris,

      You wrote a good article. I would comment more but I am just about out the door and will not be back until the holidays are over.

      Merry Christmas!!

    • T. Morris,

      “Some of us are godless moral degenerates, some of aren’t ”

      That is way too sweeping of a generalization. What percentage of “God-fearing” and holier than thou types are just as degenerate as those that are “godless?” My guess is it’s a lot higher than pius moralists would care to believe.

  18. Here’s something for y’all to chew on… Jesus of Nazareth was not a Jew and that the God he called “his Father” was the Phoenician “EL”, El Elyon (God Most High, Ps 82.6) not the jealous tranny male androgyne “He-She” tetragrammaton “YHWH: the so called “ineffable name” of the Yahwists : http://www.sacred-texts.com/mas/sof/sof26.htm

    https://medium.com/@kurtcagle/jesus-christ-phoenician-fdc26cb2fac4
    https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Phoenician-Karim-El-Koussa/dp/162006281X/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=jesus+phoenician&qid=1577141281&sr=8-1

    • Like all who worship the jealous tranny destroyer deity YHWH, EMJ believes that an Ethiopian or Somalian can be transmuted by judeo-christianity into an Englishman or a Pole… good luck with that universalizing irrational ideological BS … a jew ,an is creator of the universe… really?

  19. Anyone who watched that and didn’t think EMJ came off like a crusty, super-hostile, and mostly senile lunatic is delusional.

    “Um, I searched porn and addiction, and Google said there were 63 million results, so that means 63 million people said they were addicted to porn.”

    Who cares? He hasn’t had an erection since World War II.

  20. you’re right, Hunter! (again)

    Jones is not a good debater.

    i like him, of course, but he doesnt listen well to points that get raised. I had to turn the debate off when it started looping.

  21. I’ve burned out on EMJ. I just listened to him waste 73+ minutes of Tim Kelly’s (and my) time bloviating on his “Triple Melting Pot” nonsense. He’s a broken record. Join the Roman Catholic Church; not SPXX, no,God forbid!
    Join up with papa frank’s shitskin army,and try to change it from the inside. Sounds alot like the Ricky Vaughn strategy – join the Republican Party, and try to change it from the inside. Good luck with all that!

    • As I am sure you are aware, EMJ harkens back to a time that has come and gone. Those Catholic Enclaves he loved so much are not coming back. Jones blames the WASP/Termite for teaming up to ethnically cleanse Catholic Neighborhoods, but he leaves out one important tidbit of information. Catholic Clergy were solidly behind integrating these enclaves. White is leaving the Catholic Church, because it offer them nothing.

  22. ps. My bad! I wrote “SPXX” where I should’ve written “SPPX” for the Society of Pope Pius X…they are the “Trad Catholics” who practice the pre-Vatican II liturgy, the Latin Mass. Although EMJ is on amicable terms with them, he considers them illegitimate. Ole’ Jonsey still clings to the “Holy See”…

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