David French: Dealing With The Shock of an Evangelical Terrorist

David French:

“Whenever we hear news of a mass shooting, we expect the shooter’s life to follow a certain kind of biographical script. Perhaps he’s long suffered from mental instability. Perhaps he’s from a troubled home, with a long history of suspect behavior. Deprived of purpose and meaning, he’s drawn to dark thoughts and evil places. The pattern of radicalization is clear — evil actors are drawn to broken men, and broken men are prone to evil deeds. ….

This news hit home not just because the shooter is a Christian from a Christian family — and not just because he comes from an Evangelical church — but because he comes from my faith tradition. The OPC is a close cousin to my denomination, the much larger Presbyterian Church in America (PCA). We’re both from the Protestant Reformed tradition, we’re both broadly Calvinist, and congregants often move from one to the other with ease. I have friends in the OPC.

So, what should Christians — specifically, Reformed Christians — do with this news?

Ever since we learned more about the shooter’s identity, an online fight has been brewing in Christian circles. The Washington Post tells a part of the story today, framing the conflict as a debate between those who believe the church has nothing to answer for versus those who “call for a moment of reckoning.”

Put me in the category of those who believe the shooting should be an alarm bell.

Let me be clear: Barring unexpected or highly unusual revelations, the alarm bell isn’t over the theology of the church or the illegitimacy of the teaching of the church. No reasonable person can survey OPC theology (or the theology of its Reformed cousins) and think for one moment that it countenances white supremacy, anti-Semitism, or white nationalism. No reasonable person could sit in the pews of any mainstream OPC church and think such a thing.

Blah blah blah …

John Earnest was an interesting mass shooter in at least one respect: I’ve never seen an evangelical mass shooter quote the Bible back at these Judeo-Christian Boomers and say, “My God understands why I did what I did.” It’s like he was throwing down the gauntlet at them:

“When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it. Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children” (Matthew 27:24-25).

“I know that ye are Abraham’s seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father. They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham […] Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not” (John 8:37-45).

“For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews: Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins away: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost” (1 Thessalonians 2:14-16).

“I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan” (Revelation 2:9).

“Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee” (Revelation 3:9).

Certainly, this is a new development.

The vast majority of White Nationalist mass shooters tend to be atheists or pagans or racial materialists who are lashing out to bring on the RAHOWA. Earnest attended an Orthodox Presbyterian Church. It has been an awfully long time since we had Presbyterian terrorists.

What did John Calvin himself, who was the leading man of the Reformed tradition, have say about these issues? Did John Calvin sound anything at all like David French? What did John Calvin think about violence in the defense of the Reformed faith? Was John Calvin a cuckservative?

“[Women] will confess well enough with their lips that they must be in submission. It seems to them, however, that unless they enjoy total control, complete credence, and are part of every deliberation, then they are being subjected to insult and disdain.” John Calvin

“If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant, And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and inquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel: Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death. The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt put the evil away from among you.” Deuteronomy:17:2-7

“The words, indeed, seem to be of wider application, i e, that no man should marry a wife, except of his own kindred; but the meaning of the law is to be sought from the cause which led to its enactment. Moreover, there is no doubt but that promiscuous marriages are here forbidden, in so far as they confound the order of hereditary rights.” Calvin’s commentary on Numbers 36

“No5 This decree also commends modesty in general, and in it God anticipates the danger, lest women should harden themselves into forgetfulness of modesty, or men should degenerate into effeminacy unworthy of their nature. Garments are not in themselves of so much importance; but as it is disgraceful for men to become effeminate, and also for women to affect manliness in their dress and gestures, propriety and modesty are prescribed, not only for decency’s sake, but lest one kind of liberty should at length lead to something worse. The words of the heathen poet are very true: (97) What shame can she, who wears a helmet, show, Her sex deserting?” Wherefore, decency in the fashion of the clothes is an excellent preservative of modesty.” John Calvin’s commentary on Deuteronomy 22:5

“But, in the first place, we must observe, that the Evangelists do not speak of events known in their own age. When the ancestry of Joseph had been carried up as far as David, every one could easily make out the ancestry of Mary. The Evangelists, trusting to what was generally understood in their own day, were, no doubt, less solicitous on that point: for, if any one entertained doubts, the research was neither difficult nor tedious.Besides, they took for granted, that JOSEPH, AS A MAN OF GOOD CHARACTER AND BEHAVIOR, HAD OBEYED THE INJUCTION OF THE LAW IN MARRYING A WIFE FROM HIS OWN TRIBE.” John Calvin

“…. delightful to every one is his native soil, and it is also delightful to dwell among one’s own people.” John Calvin Calvin’s Commentary – Jeremiah 9:2

“If princes demand that we turn from honor of God, if they force us into idolatry or superstition, then they have no more authority over us than frogs and lice do.” John Calvin

“Mules are the ADULTEROUS offspring of the horse and the ass. Moses says that Anah was the author of this connection. But I do not consider this as said in praise of his industry; for the Lord has not in vain distinguished the different kinds of animals from the beginning. But since the vanity of the flesh often solicits the children of this world, so that they apply their minds to superfluous matters, Moses marks this unnatural pursuit in Anah, who did not think it sufficient to have a great number of animals; but he must add to them a degenerate race produced by unnatural intercourse. Moreover, we learn hence, that there is more moderation among brute animals in following the law of nature, than in men, who invent vicious admixtures.” ~ John Calvin on Genesis 36:24

“But the notion that what ails the world [inseparably from sin] is confusion had much practical value for Calvin … Thus, when Calvin associated disorder with obscurity, he could conceive of correcting it by sharpening the contours of the various entities composing the world; once one thing has been clearly distinguished, physically or conceptually, from others, it can be assigned its proper place in the order of things … Thus he abominated ‘mixture,’ one of the most pejorative terms in his vocabulary; mixture in any area of experience suggested to him disorder and unintelligibility. He had absorbed deeply not only the traditional concern for cosmic purity of a culture that had restricted mixture to the sublunary realm but also various Old Testament prohibitions. Mixture, for Calvin, connoted ‘adulteration’ or ‘promiscuity,’ but it also set off in him deep emotional and metaphysical reverberations. He repeatedly warned against ‘mixing together things totally different.’ … The positive corollary of Calvin’s loathing of mixture was his approval of boundaries, which separate one thing from another. He attributed boundaries to God Himself: God had established the boundaries between peoples, which should therefore remain within the space assigned to them … ‘Just as there are in a military camp separate lines for each platoon and section,’ Calvin observed, ‘men are placed on the earth so that each nation may be content with its own boundaries.’” (William J. Bouwsma, John Calvin: A Sixteenth Century Portrait, p.34-35)

“Clearly then, Biblical law is designed to create a familistic society, and the central social offense is to strike at the life of the family. Adultery is thus placed on the same level as murder, in that it is a murderous act against the central social institution of any healthy culture. Unpunished adultery is destructive of the life of the family an of social order. On the part of the wife, it is treason to the family and introduces an alien loyalty to the home, as well as an alien seed.” (RJR, Institutes, The 7th comm., p.395)

“A dog barks when his master is attacked. I would be a coward if I saw that God’s truth is attacked and yet would remain silent”. -John Calvin

19And Lamech took unto him two wives. We have here the origin of polygamy in a perverse and degenerate race; and the first author of it, a cruel man, destitute of all humanity. Whether he had been impelled by an immoderate desire of augmenting his own family, as proud and ambitious men are wont to be, or by mere lust, it is of little consequence to determine; because, in either way he violated the sacred law of marriage, which had been delivered by God. For God had determined, that “the two should be one flesh,” and that is the perpetual order of nature. Lamech, with brutal contempt of God, corrupts nature’s laws. The Lord, therefore, willed that the corruption of lawful marriage should proceed from the house of Cain, and from the person of Lamech, in order that polygamists might be ashamed of the example.” John Calvin

“Their [the Jews] rotten and unbending stiffneckedness deserves that they be oppressed unendingly and without measure or end and that they die in their misery without the pity of anyone.” John Calvin

“Prosperity inebriates men, so that they take delights in their own merits.” ~ John Calvin

“Now, we see, as in a camp, every troop and band hath his appointed place, so men are placed upon earth, that every people may be content with their bounds, and that among these people every particular person may have his mansion. But though ambition have, oftentimes raged, and many, being incensed with wicked lust, have passed their bounds, yet the lust of men hath never brought to pass, but that God hath governed all events from out of his holy sanctuary. For though men, by raging upon earth, do seem to assault heaven, that they may overthrow God’s providence, yet they are enforced, whether they will or no, rather to establish the same. Therefore, let us know that the world is so turned over through divers tumults, that God doth at length bring all things unto the end which he hath appointed.” John Calvin Calvin’s Comm. on Acts 17:26

“I have had much conversation with many Jews—I have never seen either a drop of piety or a grain of truth or ingenuousness—nay, I have never found common sense in any Jew.” —John Calvin, Commentary on Daniel 2:44

I’m one of the people who gave David French such a hard time back during the 2016 election. As the living embodiment of a sanctimonious virtue signaling cuckservative loser, he was one of our favorite whipping boys. I still have fond memories of roasting him and watching his meltdowns. See here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and here.

I make no apologies either for skewering David French during the 2016 election. I had nothing to do with harassing him online or in real life. I just find it ironic the experience of trolling left such an impression on him. If he thought that was bad, can you imagine what John Calvin would have said about him? What would John Calvin have said about Nancy French carrying on a year long sexual affair with her family pastor and writing about that disgrace in The Washington Post or adopting a black child from Ethiopia and showing her off at CPAC 2012 in an “I only cry when Democrats hold me” t-shirt?

Has it occurred to David French what Geneva was like in John Calvin’s life under the Genevan Consistory? Has he thought about what France was like for Calvin’s followers during the French Wars of Religion? What about during the Thirty Years’ War? Calvinism has been tamed in 21st century America, but the legitimate article in Europe was nothing like it has become in our own times.

Note: Even as a Lutheran, I enjoy reading John Calvin. The real John Calvin sounds nothing like these Judeo-Christian Boomers.

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  1. Whoa. “I could write a book,” as they say.

    OK – no wonder the kid was so spot on, in his analysis of the issues that are at hand, and his quotes and views of the Bible, Christ, and the Deicide nature of ‘those who say they are Jews, and are not’ [Rev. 2:8,9] were so cogent. This kid THINKS.

    Unlike the smear against the Puritans and the Calvinists in the article on Scofield, at least this gives me a much deeper understanding of this kid’s mindset. Way more than most. I KNOW THIS KID’S THEOLOGY.

    The OPC was affectionately known as the “Orthodox Pharisee Church” in the 1970’s and early 1980’s – when the PCA was created (the PCA was a SOUTHERN conservative alternative to the PCUSA, which is both Yankee-dominated, and utterly apostate- even for Presbyterians). Both churches are now FAR MORE LIBERAL than they used to be, back when I knew them…. but they still have the vestiges of their founding stances.

    The OPC was started by one of the men who was on the side of the group that wrote ‘The Fundamentals’ – a set of books in the early 20th- Century that merely iterated the dogmas of historic catholic theology (virgin birth, God a Trinity, Christ fully God and fully Man, etc.) it was only LATER, than the term ‘Fundamentals’ was applied to the less literate, and southern apostates from that very orthodoxy (small ‘o’) with the rise of Scofieldism, DTS, and the whole Southern Baptist descent into Parousia madness…..who became known as FundamentalISTS. That’s where the term derives from.

    OK, back to the OPC.

    J. Gresham Machen was THE major (Northern) Presbyterian/Reformed writer, who helped the initial case for writing the Fundamentals. As Wikipedia notes: ‘…He was the Professor of New Testament at Princeton Seminary between 1906 and 1929, and led a conservative revolt against modernist theology at Princeton and formed Westminster Theological Seminary as a more orthodox alternative.” Machen’s book, ‘Christianity and Liberalism’ still is the best analysis of this fight in Presby/Reformed circles.

    In Escondido (a city about 1/2 hour north of Poway/Penasquitos) is the Westminster Seminary West, the west coast branch of Machen’s Westminster of Philadelphia.

    This kid was taught his Christian doctrine by these people- all of whom are far more noble, thoughtful, trinitarian and theologically orthodox than most Dispensational crazies like Hagee, Robertson, Falwell, etc, or your typical Southern Baptist.

    THE ONLY CONNECTION TO Earnest’s DESIRE TO DO WHAT HE DID, and his ecclesial tradition, may lie in the works of a seminal Reformed writer who was part of the OPC, and left it- the great theologian, Rousas J. Rushdoony- whose work, ‘The Institutes of Biblical Law’ showed in the 1970’s, that Christians MUST rule from a biblical law standpoint, if they are to be both faithful, and successful. As Rush (what his devotees call him) was also an Armenian, racially, he had a very healthy regard for the Ethnic particularity of all peoples, and HE KNEW THE JEW AS CHRISTIANITY’S PERENNIAL ENEMY.

    Mark Rushdoony, Rousas’ son, has worked VERY HARD to distance himself (and the pubishing house of his father’s works, which is his cash cow) from the obvious racially-aware, presbyterian-related, and biblically covenantal stances his father wrote from, from the early 1960’s on, about what White America could, should, and MUST do, to save itself from where we are today. He was literally a prophetic voice that no one wanted to listen to, except the hard-core Reformed folks. Ever hear of Home Schooling? Rushdoony was behind helping that fledgling movement back in the 1960’s? Ever hear of the Moral Majority? Falwell took Rush’s stances, and viewpoints, and tried to ‘force them’ via a Dispensational/Baptist filter into a ‘right now’ version of the Christianization or RE-Conquista of the West. It gave us Reagan, and the abortive attempt at restoring Christianity in a decade, over and against the Alinsky’s, the other Jews, and the 100-years of Talmudicization of the West, as witnessed by the fact that it was Reagan who had Chabad kikes in the Oval Office, and it was Reagan who legitimized the MLK ‘holy day/holiday.’ But the ideas came from Rushdoony. Anti-abortion? Rushdoony. The list of writing he had on salient topics and his magnum opus, are massive, profound, and life-changing.

    There was also a movement tied to the Moral Majority in the 1980’s called “Christian Reconstructionism” which was a fully-orbed thought process, that also applied the counter-measure of an ‘Eschatology of Victory’ against Dispensationalism, known as postmillennialism, that was part and parcel of the Rushdoony legacy.

    While it has died out, or died down (I am not sure) it still has adherents, and it knowingly points out the Jew as the spiritual/racial/cutural cancer that (((they))) are, and Rush’s books showed me early on, that any sort of accommodation with the ‘world’ (whether Austrian Economics/ Mises/Gary North- his estranged son-in-law; or the various forms of either -pagan ideology [Nazism, Marxism, Paganism of all sorts]; or the 1960’s adulterous children: sexual and moral deviancy (Abortion, lesbianism, faggots, gender ‘psycopathology’) were all to be shunned… and working ‘together’ to make ‘diversity our strength,’ was doomed to fail, now that Christ had come. We either can be alive Christians, or dead heretics. There is no other option.

    The second and third generation of these Rushdoonyites, CR folk, and Conservative Presbyterians are going to deny it all, (that there may be a link and tie) now that this is out and in the open air…. but we need to remember one very important thing. “YOU CANNOT FIGHT SOMETHING WITH NOTHING”- as Gary North said, over and over again.

    The greatness of the Christian reconstruction model, Rushdoony’s insights, and the Calvinist worldview, is that it works against the Jews, the flesh, and the devil…. which is why people hate the Puritans as much as they do, because we are all ‘TOTALLY DEPRAVED’ as Calvin noted, so long ago.

    But, more importantly, an eschatology of victory trumps an eschatology of Defeat. Knowing that White Americans are the “Israel of God” means that the Deicides, aren’t… and have not been since AD 70. And that seeking to effect change without moral reformation, is doomed to fail, for God wants holiness of life, first. THEN we build that ‘city on the hill’ that all of us say we wanted, back in the day.

    All of these things are the real legacy of Rushdoony. Don’t forget one very important historical fact- the Presbyterian witness (remember, the American Revolution was said to be a “…. Presbyterian revolt” by King George’s troops… and it all started in the ‘Puritan/Cavinist ‘ corners of New England.. exists, for a reason.

    My two cents, fwiw

  2. No one but us EVER addresses the legitimate accusations of Jewish and abuse – so I don’t shed one tear for any last one of them

  3. I got banned from a newspaper’s comment section today for making this comment concerning a Holocaust spectacular sponsored by some local Jews and Shabbos goyim. I wrote, this and only this as a comment: “Just more hate Whitey propaganda, only with a Jewish spin.”

    I’m acquainted with the ownership & management of the newspaper, and like most newspapers I’m sure they are worried about some fat Jew pulling an advertisement from their newspaper. For even the slightest criticism of Holocaust propaganda.

  4. Drive this home at every opportunity: Jesus was the world’s greatest anti-Semite. Were Jesus to return today he would be arrested and hung by “Christians” for his anti-Semitism.

  5. Good stuff, but I think understanding Catholicism is more important. It’s been around the whole time, not just 500 years. Its doctrine toward jews (sicut judaeis non – dont molest them), its definition of jews (rejecters of christ rather than a biological race), set a death trap for our race. We must defeat catholicism and liberate our kind mentally to where they understand that the only solution that will or can work – is exterminating jews like the hominid termites they are. I’m working on this now in relation to the top catholic minds, which are e. michael jones, TnT (taylor marshall and warm buddies) and “ex” gay michael voris. All easily found on youtube. We must find our people’s minds where they are, and bring them back to the path of race truth – the truth that, unlike Jesus, doesn’t go away when you stop believing it.

    • Linder,

      You will never defeat us. We will still be around long after you and your kind are dead. And we have been traditionally the most anti-Jewish people on earth. We also recognized the racial aspects of Judaism many centuries ago. We had racial laws in place that dwarf national socialsim. Like from 1593-1946 in order to be a Jesuit one could not have a drop of Jewish and Moorish blood in them. Or how until in Spain as recent as the late 1960’s in southern Spain a priest could not say a mass in a cathedral because he had a tiny amount of Jewish blood in him. Or for many centuries where a Pope had to be free from Jewish racial blood for at least 7 generations.

      And I doubt that E. Michael Jones is one of the finest minds in Catholicism. He is well known but I have family members and have met priests and nuns who know as much or more than him. If this was a couple of centuries ago it is possible that Jones in some ways might be considered a liberal. He definitely is more liberal than I am.

      If you have any questions look up ——–The Plot Against the Church or the Racial purity laws.
      There is little that I can add to them. Or Church councils and canon laws on Jews.

      St. Thomas Aquinas and at least one of our Church Councils said that Jews should be enslaved by us but that it was an abomination for a Jew or a Moslem to have us as servants. He also said that they could not be killed merely for being Jews.

      And yes our great goal is to convert Jews not to hurt them except in self-defense.

      The enemies of white nationalism claim that you people are just a hate group. Sometimes I think they are wrong and then there are other times when I wonder.

      I have a relative who said that you have stated that you believe that all Jews should be killed. Is this true?

      Christina Romana

      • The idea is that we keep jews around to remind us. If we didn’t there is no doubt we’d create them eventually out of our own Id.

        Dealing with them, forever, is an integral part of how we continually recreate and redeem ourselves as a people. There is no easy way out.

        • Gentile,

          I do not think that is the reason. After all, we traditionally segregated them in ghettos. We forced them and Moslems to wear separate clothing and kicked them out of Catholic countries dozens of times. That is not keeping them around.

          They are the walking damned and they are NOT good to have around. And we do not need them to redeem ourselves. We only need God. We just cannot fight evil with evil and cannot unjustly hurt them.

          We need them about as much as we need Moslems, the plague, or famine.

          • No, they were kept around, although ghettoized and expelled when they became too powerful. They could have been Earnested at any time but the doctrine was that they should not be harmed.

            There is no greater illustration of what Christ went through, no greater exercise of the power of the faith, then speaking against jews in real time, in a jew-dominated culture. Christ does not wish to deprive His people of this evidence of His power or this excrcise of Faith in Him.

            There is no easy way out.

    • A Match made in Heck

      Now that TraitorGlenn Miller is in jail, like the third-time married/divorced couple finding out that two Social Security checks stretch further under one roof, the kids are all gone and moved away and neither one of you wants to give or get that well-used pussy, maybe you two can get back together with a forum / blog and call it National Vanguard Dissent.

      Then you both could join ZOGtards, ZOGbux, & ZOGbots and trash out Whigger Churchianity in all itz for[u]ms.

      My what an Odd Couple !!!

      Hail Victory !!!

      Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt
      Church of Jesus Christ Christian / Aryan Nations of Missouri
      Ten Thousand Warlords Project

  6. Here’s the crux of it. If christianity were anti-jew, would it be allowed on tv and radio?

    If, as we so often hear from nonthinkers, christianity is opposed to jews, why don’t they call the cross a hate symbol like the other cross?

    Christianity protects jews and endangers whites. That’s the truth of the matter.

    If christianity threatened jews, they’d try to stamp it out as they did national socialism – a vehicle that actually protected whites from jewish sexual-cultural garbage (including race mixing that the catholic church actually promotes in practice) and banking criminality.

    Catholicism (christianity) has severely weakened our people by focusing their attention on imaginary worlds, and making them think that reality is just another entertainment option, and the least interesting one.

    • There is either a formal, or informal alliance between the Jews and Roman Catholics.

      US Senator Tom Watson who you are both familiar with claimed there was a formal alliance between the Vatican and organized Jewry, a political alliance concerning the United States.

      One only has to look at the voting patterns in Congress to see the Jew and Roman Catholic political alliance in action.

      Don’t forget that Tom Watson was a Protestant and a Methodist, and a Methodist minister met with him on Sunday afternoon to help him compose his ideas and writings.(according to his family members). Of course this was in the days before the two Southern Methodist Churches merged with the Northern Methodists.

  7. Does this young man represent the next phase of our struggle for White survival?

    Free speech is the alternative to violence.

  8. Evangelicals have been terrorizing the middle east for a generation now. Someone attacks an (((actual Warmongers franchise))), the yidservant Frenchy horripilates.

      • It makes me laugh how the anti-Catholic Protestants complain about a Jew/Catholic alliance.

        The Reformation mortally weakened Christianity 500 years ago and was the best thing ever for Jews. It has just taken 500 years for the full effect to take place.

        The anti-Catholic commentators do not understand history over long periods of time. Lack of education and a belief that history started with their own birth I think.

        If the Church of recent times has given up under a series of corrupt Popes and the Protestants heretics, it is hardly surprising. None of our other institutions has withstood the onslaught either.

        Take a hard look at your Southern Christian Zionists you fools. And that’s where the Yankees get their canon fodder from too. Poor stupid bastards.

        You made your beds, now lie in them.

  9. Chuck Baldwin ( a Baptist I respect) said it best this week:

    “From a theological perspective, I believe the doctrine of the Rapture is being used by too many pastors and Christians as an excuse to not resist the many attacks against our liberties. I further believe that too many pastors and churches have become passive, timid and politically correct and are, therefore, “good for nothing” (Matthew 5:13) when it comes to preserving liberty. I also believe that the teaching of dispensational eschatology (prophetic futurism) is egregious doctrinal error that has spiritually corrupted several generations of Christians and is ultimately responsible for the rise of America’s Warfare State (contributing to the deaths of millions of people around the world) and the spiritual demise of America’s Christian heritage and culture.

    And after much study, I have come to the conclusion that the current State of Israel—the one created on May 14, 1948, by the Rothschilds—has nothing to do with the Israel of the Bible, and the assertion it does comprises a prodigious heresy that is doing untold damage to the fundamental Biblical doctrine of Christology—especially Christ’s finished work on the Cross.”
    https://russia-insider.com/en/popular-us-pastor-chuck-baldwin-describes-himself-nutshell/ri26938

  10. Sorry, but whatever form or name your Protestant heresy goes by, it is and will always be judaizing. If you want to know why your fellow Prots worship the Jews, just look in the ideological mirror.

    • Looks to me like Jorge Bergoglio has that base covered. The cool thing about Protestantism is that we don’t assume that Bergoglio or anyone else is the vicar of Christ on earth.

      • Which basically means that every Protestant is the vicar of Christ on earth, which is insane I think.

        • Gentile,

          Now this comment was quite good.

          Individualism is a sin any way. Even on the temporal level laws are made for the common good not for the individual. That is why in the USA we have billionaires at the same time millions of citizens live in misery. Justice takes precedence over the freedom to do what one wants.

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