Editor’s Note: In light of the Trad Thots War, I decided that now would be a good time to articulate our position on the women issue, and contrast it with the debate that is playing out online. I think there is more of a consensus in our ranks and that this is less of a problem.
This is our position on women:
Rejection of Equality. We hold this truth to be self-evident, that men and women are not equal, and that there are important biological differences between the sexes. Gender is rooted in our biology. It isn’t an individual choice. We believe in a social order that affirms natural inequality.
Different, But Complementary. We don’t believe that women are “inferior” to men, but that the sexes are different and complementary. It is natural for men and women to live together in harmony. Therefore, we reject false doctrines like feminism and MGTOW.
Traditional Gender Roles. We reject the division of genders that is promoted by the modern West. We support traditional gender roles, with each gender having equally important and respected roles within our society. Inevitably, these roles vary across history though.
This is where we are now:
Liberalism. We don’t live in a traditional society anymore in the modern West. Christianity used to be the basis of our culture in the West, but since the Enlightenment it has been discarded in favor of liberalism. The American Revolution and French Revolution transformed the family and traditional gender roles and the Sexual Revolution of the 1960s destroyed both of them.
Some examples of the horrors unleashed by modern liberalism and the Sexual Revolution in this sphere that I have written about include Ashley Judd’s Unhinged Women’s March Speech, Michael Sonmore, Cuckolded Feminist, Lena Dunham’s Sensual Pantsuit, Lena Dunham’s Halloween Costume, Lena Dunham Celebrates White Genocide, Pussy Riot’s “Straight Outta Vagina” and VICE on MGTOWs. There isn’t a day that goes by that doesn’t provide a new example of the toll this has taken on our culture. This radical break with tradition has led to extraordinary levels of unhappiness.
If you thought the Left was going to stop with forcing us to bake cakes, you were wrong. https://t.co/2UnqGuzzVT
— Google: "Tapper, Lewinsky, Date, Chubby" (@NolteNC) December 7, 2017
Self-care tip: If you find it hard to love your stomach, make it more obvious just how utterly cute and loveable it is.
Sofie Hagen – glorifying obesity since 1996. pic.twitter.com/6AjssiCYih
— Sofie Hagen (@SofieHagen) December 4, 2017
"Just feeding my black son! Hehe." pic.twitter.com/WJvVCWu9Ts
— Matt Murdock (@AltMattMurdock) December 6, 2017
War-Elephant class Radical Feminist goes berserk and attacks security gentlemen. The men laugh, further enraging the furious beast. pic.twitter.com/ssshZD4GeS
— Nationalist Gent’ ????????? (@NationalistGent) December 7, 2017
From yesterday's demo in DC: pic.twitter.com/ZduKEF6guA
— Hunter Wallace (@occdissent) December 4, 2017
This is where we want to go:
Traditionalism. Basically, we want to discard liberalism and return to a more traditional social order. In order do that, we have created a political movement to bring about change. We cherish women as our mothers, wives, sisters and daughters. We want to include women and encourage them to find husbands and start families and reconnect with their traditional roles. These include work, the religious life of the family, maintaining their households and educating children.
Of these four activities, the religious life of the family and educating children have remained pretty much the same, but the work that women perform and how they maintain their households has changed over the centuries. Women don’t have to make clothes for their families anymore. They have stoves, microwaves, vacuum cleaners, washing machines and countless other time saving devices. They don’t work in the fields or tend to gardens and livestock anymore. Many of the tasks that women used to traditionally perform are obsolete. Keeping women locked up in the household while the children were at school and husbands were at the workplace proved untenable as well. It simply gave them the free time to consume all the poison pumped out by the mainstream media.
White people have accomplished great things, and will continue to do so, under the banner of the black sun. We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children. #14Words #TradLife #MondayMotivation pic.twitter.com/4YppxOYStJ
— American Traditionalist (@tradamericana) November 27, 2017
— WhiteDate.NET (@whitedatenet) November 26, 2017
Watch any Christmas movies over the holiday? One of the things I love best about old classics is they depict how great this country could be again if we fight for it. #ChristmasClassics #FamilyValues #TradLife #MAGA pic.twitter.com/HPHf8kUBax
— ???? ???? ? (@LadyLSpeaks) November 26, 2017
There isn’t much of a debate about this in our camp:
Women in the Hard-Right. Generally speaking, the men in the Hard Right are older, more religious and more likely to be married and have children. It seems that families are more common. I have drawn attention to this contrast between Southern Nationalism and White Nationalism before. The Alt-Right has some of the same issues as White Nationalism, but the problem with women is arguably even worse. The only time this comes up in our circles is over the shield maidens issue. As these events have become more violent due to Antifa, women have begun to stay behind in support roles.
Teaching our son to pick his own cotton ? pic.twitter.com/o8WGmfrRjC
— Hunter Wallace (@occdissent) November 12, 2017
Arkansas League of the South. I think this was 2014 pic.twitter.com/7Oo5XZ1Twr
— Hunter Wallace (@occdissent) November 12, 2017
(((The Atlantic))) considers us "an existential threat." We will take that as a compliment! pic.twitter.com/URK7EpPFu6
— Hunter Wallace (@occdissent) November 15, 2017
This is the current debate:
Women in the Alt-Right. What should be done about women with large social media platforms? Is it #TradLife? The answer is that the internet and social media are revolutionary technological developments. The printing press was one example. The introduction of television and film were another. This technology is here to stay and if Twitter and YouTube can be used to promote #TradLife then so much the better. In the 1930s, Leni Riefenstahl used film to promote the Third Reich.
Young women have lost touch with their traditional roles and could conceivably use these new platforms to get around the Jewish media and learn how to become better wives and mothers. That’s certainly better than what goes on elsewhere on apps like Tinder or the garbage that so many women are watching on television or reading in Cosmopolitan and those who are complaining about it have lost perspective. I keep coming back to how the Third Reich used film and photography.
The big question that has driven feminism and the transformation of sex and gender roles since the late 20th century is how women liberated by technology from menial tasks and unwanted pregnancies should spend their time. In most of these cases (Tara McCarthy, Faith Goldy), there is nothing really problematic about what they are doing. They are doing journalism or hosting talk shows which aren’t really sexual in nature and are often very popular, useful and informative. In Lauren Southern’s case, you could make a plausible argument that she is profiting off of thirsty beta orbiters who masturbate to her without promoting ethnonationalism or traditionalism to a mass audience.
The vast majority of our women aren’t e-celebs with social media platforms and Patreon accounts. Should they be driven out of the movement? I suppose you could argue that women shouldn’t be in politics, but we are a marginalized political movement at the present moment. Where would our men have the chance to meet our women EXCEPT at our own events? It’s not like they are going to meet them in church. The main thing we want to accomplish is for our men and women – who are already interacting on social media – to meet in real life, get married and start families.
I don’t think men or women should be exempt from criticism. We should promote traditionalism for both sexes, not just for one. The ideal should be married couples with large families. Virtually all the criticism of the Trad Thots (there is a problem there) is coming from men who fall short of that ideal as well. There is nothing traditional about MGTOW or sportbanging non-White women in foreign countries either. There is a large number of men in the Alt-Right who are having difficulty starting a family. More than anything else, their resentment of women is driving this online debate.
The Thot Patrol pic.twitter.com/GThapK46xN
— Hunter Wallace (@occdissent) December 7, 2017
So apparently Lauren Southern once had a brown boyfriend or two, and her Alt-Right fans are not taking the news well. pic.twitter.com/BNY5VseHLA
— Christoph (@Halalcoholism) December 3, 2017
Years ago, I concluded that the Why Women Reject White Nationalism problem was due to it being a largely anonymous, online movement that appeals to a certain type of male. This is even more true of the Alt-Right. Both attract legions of men who spend too much of their time trolling online or in the gym. There aren’t many occasions to meet women with similar views in these spaces. The discussion of women turns toxic online and that further compounds the problem. This is unlikely to change until there is a much broader shift from the internet to IRL activities.