Fred Reed’s Alt-Right Critique

H/T Vox Day

I just heard about Fred Reed’s critique of the Alt-Right:

“I have gotten many hundreds of emails–OK, three emails, but I am rounding up–asking me whether there is a super-race. There are different views on this matter, discussion being carried on with the manners of a hockey match. For people who have better things to do than study abnormal psychology, the players are briefly as follows: Something called the Alt-Right that believes the white race to be superior and wants to rid the country of of encroaching dark scum. The Human Biodiversity movement, HBD, more scientific and less surly but picking whites while conceding that yellow are smarter. Finally IQists, who believe that IQ is a reliable measure of genetic intelligence. They too put yellows as more intelligent.

The Alt-Right believes that the whites are innately–i.e., genetically–superior to all other races, that they have dominated the world through higher intelligence, and that their mastery is the result of Darwinian selection. Whites, they say, have a marvelous track record of achievement, and they don’t want to dilute it by intermarriage. …”

It is really a critique of white supremacy and the HBD movement.

I don’t write about the superiority of the White race on this website. I believe that racial differences exist, but I also believe that the various human races are adapted to different environments. In other words, a Northern European is more suited to Northern Europe’s barren landscape while a West African is more adapted to West Africa’s tropical climate and disease environment. The difference is always relative. I’ve often had to explain that the idea that a vertical racial hierarchy of superior and inferior human races exists stems from an archaic, pre-Darwinian racial discourse based on the Great Chain of Being. In my last interview on the subject, I told a woman making a documentary on the Alt-Right that my fair skin was adapted to Britain’s cloudy climate, not Dixie’s sunny climate.

As I told Professor Main in that interview, I suppose you could argue that some type of “supremacy” is inherent in nationalism, which is to say, nationalism involves one group staking a sovereign claim to some given territory. That’s not really the same thing as “white supremacy” though which is more the idea that whites are biologically superior to all other races. Are we American supremacists for believing American citizens should be “supreme” over other groups in America? Prez Davis, for example, conflates supremacy with sovereignty and endorses white supremacy.

The Alt-Right is far more interested in identity and nationalism than asserting white supremacy. I’ve written countless articles about the historical origins of Southern identity. I’m interested in white supremacy because I am an ethnonationalist and because historically it has played such an important role in the evolution of our identity, but it hardly follows that I believe in, say, the Curse of Ham, the Great Chain of Being or polygenesis. Racial discourse has continued to change over time as new information has come to light about biology and genetics. I don’t really believe in white supremacy anymore than chemists believe in phlogiston, biologists believe in spontaneous generation or astronomers believe in celestial spheres. It is not a mere “rebranding” either.

If Whites were “inferior” to all other races or were still on the same level of civilization as the most primitive tribes of Papua New Guinea, we would still be entitled to our own homelands because our claim is rooted in our separate identity and ethnic interests.

24 Comments

  1. Sorry, but not interested. So-called White “supremacy” where we take up The White Man’s Burden is how we got ourselves into the mess we currently are in. One would think that, in surrendering our colonies, we of European stock would be allowed to drop The White Man’s Burden and kick it to the curb. Not so lucky. The colonized ended up following us back to our homelands, demanding to be “oppressed” with welfare benefits and endless coddling.

    Even in the United States, which had no colonies, White Flight left so-called people of color a completed turn-key First World infrastructure. And what happens? You have Black author, Rich Benjamin chasing every last White person down to find out where he is “In Search of Whiteopia.”

    I have spent many years wishing the thirteen colonies had made a point of sinking every slave ship in our harbors before ever allowing them to unload their cargoes on our shores. Now I wish that the Europeans had just stayed in Europe unless they were willing to exterminate the natives completely before settling in any land to which they ventured. Much easier that way.

  2. I think Reed is a doped up, drunked up pinhead. Anybody that doesn’t understand race in culture understands very little. But it does offer the chance to do the same phony moralizing that the left is so fond of.

  3. David Hines argument is that the broader definition is beneficial. Which is why I like the realism/iconoclasm/identity description of the alt-right.

  4. Exactly. Those brown and yellow women do want a nice home to care for though. That gives them more status than a successful career woman in their society.

  5. The ching dings are buying up every farm, mansion and business in Australia and changing our culture. Chinese billionaire nationals are buying investment properties in our cities….out bidding the locals…..and then the homes sit empty as they’re so rich they don’t need rent money from tenents. They’re part of the reason todays young Australians- unlike previous generations- will never own their own homes in their own cities. The Chinese price them out.
    Does your average billionaire in China care about young Australians? Nup.

  6. Wasted away again in Margaritaville,
    Searchin’ for my lost shaker of salt.
    Some people claim that there’s a woman to blame,
    But I know it’s nobody’s fault.

    Don’t know the reason,
    Stayed here all season
    With nothing to show but this brand new tattoo.
    But it’s a real beauty,
    A Mexican cutie, how it got here
    I haven’t a clue.

  7. Almost. I can easily allow for Whites to marry equivalents from high IQ Asians and selected Hindus. Christians in the Middle East definitely qualify. The only remainder are Nigarolls and Amerindians and other “native-primitive” peoples. Mixing genes with these are Caucasian suicide.

  8. Bad enough to wipe out your race by banging Ming Wa or some other Gook?

    Bad enough to give the Jews victory by willingly destroying thousands of years of racial purity?

    And for the record, I’m in my late 20’s, am married to a WHITE woman, and have WHITE children.

    It’s very easy to do despite the screwed up society we live in, but if you keep banging Thai/Flip/Chink women, you’re probably not going to do very well.

  9. Very well stated. When you factor in the White man’s powers of creativity, imagination and individuality we are superior to the Orientals.

  10. I consider Fred to be a friend of mine. He is very intelligent and perceptive and no lefty, but he is wrong about this. BTW, Fred’s natural daughters are both white. He is one of those guys who went through the kind of bitter divorce that one reads about on the Men’s Rights sites. He married a nice and intelligent middle aged Mexican woman with an equally nice and intelligent daughter, both of whom are Mexican, live in Mexico and intend to remain there. Fred lives in Mexico because he despises the modern United States.

    Fred is not Alt Right but he is pro Southern to the bone and strongly in favor of an independent South. I suspect he doesn’t think it is possible this late in the day.

  11. My mild defense of Fred appears to have been deleted by the Moderator, but I hope he will allow this: Fred’s natural daughters are both white, his grand daughter is white. His middle aged wife and her daughter are Mexican, live in Mexico and intend to remain there. Fred is not Alt Right, doesn’t think much of Richard Spencer and didn’t think much of Pres. Reagan, but he is not a Republicrat, lefty or cuckservative.

  12. I’m in my early fifties, and have been married to the same woman for almost 25 years. She has blue eyes, auburn hair, and fairer skin than my own. We have three white children. It’s just that her ancestors came here from Spain around the same time mine came here from Scotland, France, and England.

  13. Here is a question: when was the last time any journalist asked BLM if they believed in Black Supremacy? Or La Raza if they believed in Chicano/a Supremacy? Or…etc?

    The White Supremacy issue is something of a canard. It’s an attempt to divert the issue away from the real questions of White nationalism and White survival. But it also makes you ask, why are they so afraid of White Supremacy? Could it be that if enough White people are red pilled, there would be a revolution which would reclaim the Western world for the White race?

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