15th Century Spain – Muslims, Jews and Our Guys

Columbus Day, 2015
Occidental Dissent Classic

I was bicycling in a former Chicago neighborhood I grew up in, two blocks from the Chicago Kenwood Hyde Park mansion of President Barack Obama. The Obamas are rarely there these days. But, there is still 24/7 Secret Service protection. I noticed that there is a large Jewish synagogue one block from the Obama mansion. It doesn’t really look like a Jewish synagogue to me. It looks more like an Islamic mosque. So what is an Arabic/Ottoman mosque looking Jewish synagogue doing just one block from the home of the American President, who is the bastard son of a Black Muslim Kenyan?

Another related question is:

How did an obscure, half White Illinois state representative Barack Obama become a huge player in Chicago Black power politics, then become a US Senator and four years later President of the United States of America?

The answer to these questions have to do with the seemingly Byzantine nature of Chicago, American and Western politics.

“All politics are local.” — US Speaker of the House Tip O’Neil

“All politics are racial/ethno-religious.” — Jack Ryan, Occidental Dissent

Axelrod and Obama

Barack Obama rose almost overnight from a nobody to a US Senator to President of the United States in large part from a coalition of Black power groups and Liberal-Left, heavily Jewish groups and advisers like David Axelrod. More extremist cultural Marxists like SDS Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn were also involved, but like Obama’s crazed Black Liberation Theology, hate White people preacher Jeremiah Wright, these Leftist Marxists kept a lower profile. The American New Left of the late 1960s and all through the 1970s was heavily Jewish as of course were the Bolshevik-Communist movements in Russia and other Eastern and European countries a century ago. It wasn’t some huge super secret conspiracy, it’s just the way things were.

Well, speaking of the way things were and are – how about the terrible violence between Israeli Jews and Palestinian Muslims now occurring in Jerusalem? It must be that Jews and Muslims are great enemies, have always been enemies…

That’s a decided “NO” on that one.

Until the foundation of the modern Jewish state of Israel in 1948, Jews and Muslims tended to have much better relations than Jews and European Christians, especially Jews and European Catholics. Jews then and now tried to fit in with their Islamic rulers, that’s why lots of Jewish synagogues like this one in Chicago look just like Islamic mosques. Jews and Muslims tend to have long memories – both groups know and remember that Spain was invaded and occupied by Muslim Arab Moors for….

700 years!

On, balance the Moorish Spanish years are considered a golden age for the Jewish people. When Spanish Catholics reconquered Spain from the Muslim Moors there was…

The expulsion of the Jews from Spain in 1492 and the Spanish Inquisition!

What was with all of that?!

Here is a OD/Instauration classic history lesson on 15th Century Spain – these same multicultural conflicts, temporary alliances and betrayals are now back with us this year 2015.

Spain Might Have Had Some Good Reasons to Expel the Jews

Instauration Magazine November 1992

(Presented for the educational, non commercial use, “fair comment” protected by the 1st Amendment)

“Every schoolboy is or should be familiar with the year 1492, the year of the (re)discovery of the New world by Christopher Columbus, a Genoese in the service of the Spanish monarchs, Ferdinand and Isabella. For Spain, 1492 was to be the most important year in its history, as well as one of the most important in world history. It was the year the Spanish nation was consolidated, the year it said adios to the Middle Ages, the year when the splendorous Spanish State took center stage in the political evolution of the West. In the beginning of the year, on January 2, after a long siege, the army of the Spanish monarchs marched into the city of Granada, thus re-conquering the last of the real estate seized by the Arabs and moors seven centuries earlier. Then, on March 31, the Catholic monarchs signed a royal edict that ordered all Jews in Spain to convert to Christianity or ship out. Five months later Columbus sailed out of the Spanish port of Palos hoping to discover a new route to the Indies. His tiny fleet passed boats loaded with Jews sorrowfully complying with Ferdinand and Isabella’s expulsion order.

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In this 500th anniversary of Columbus’s epochal voyage, much of the celebration has been marred by media inspired attacks on Spain for her “cruelty” and “foolishness” in expelling Jews. No one seemed to care what was done to the Muslims, who were also given the choice of conversion or expulsion a few years later, just as no one these days seems to care much about what was done to non-Jews in WWII German and Soviet concentration camps, where the death toll of Gentiles was probably ten times greater than the number of Jewish fatalities. Actually, any Jew who converted to Christianity was perfectly free to stay in Spain. Those who left could take all their earthly possessions with them, except gold and silver coins and trinkets.

The current media story line is that the Spanish, in a fit of blind religious fanaticism, cut off their noses to spite their faces by kicking out the clever and enterprising Jewish community. Having heard these tearful tales over and over again, history buffs could be forgiven for thinking that only mass insanity could have led Spaniards to commit such an enormous gaffe. Jews, today’s spin doctors insist, were the cultural and economic backbone of Spain, the most educated and verbal segment of the population. Only greed, envy, ignorance and Christian bigotry could possibly explain this act of pure folly. Once again, a peaceful, unoffending people were driven out into the cold because of the heartlessness of their wicked neighbors. But that is not the end of the story! As is almost always the case, there was a price to be paid for persecuting the Jews. The price for Spain, according to the Jewish version of history, was its decline and fall, following the loss of so much Jewish brainpower and the economic and cultural benefits which Spain’s rivals, Portugal and Holland, received from swarms of Jewish refugees.

Per usual, when it comes to Jews, the story they tell is, shall we say, at variance with the facts. Fourteen hundred and ninety-two was the year Spanish civilization took off like a rocket. Within a century or two, Cervantes was writing Don Quixote; Velasquez was painting his incomparable portraits; Calderon was writing his brilliant plays. It almost seemed as if the presence of the Jews had kept Spanish culture under wraps and their forced removal unloosed tremendous bursts of artistic, literary and economic energy. (Might it be possible that the same unshackling of cultural forces would produce similar results if the Jews left the U. S.?) In A History of Medieval Spain, Professor Joseph F. O’Callaghan provides us with perhaps the most scholarly and precise treatment of Spanish history in the time between the Arab conquest and the Moors’ surrender of Granada. Spain had its origins in the Roman Empire. The Roman provinces in what is now Spain and Portugal furnished the Empire with some of its greatest Emperors. With the fall of Rome, Spain was transformed into a kingdom of Visigoths, one of the German tribes which had inherited remnants of the Empire. The Visigothic kings were Christianized and ruled over a population comprised partly of Nordics and largely of Mediterraneans, with a heavy sprinkling of Jews. Later, when the Arabs imposed Islam on Spain, the composition of the population was not greatly changed. The overwhelming majority of Arabs and Spaniards belonged to the Mediterranean race, though Nordic racial traits, such as fair complexions and blue eyes (Isabella had them), were discernible in the ruling circles of both peoples. Some Nordic genes had been implanted by the Vandals who swept through Spain before the Visigoths and fought their way as far as Tunis in North Africa. Here, it might also be noted, that the Muslim rulers and Caliphs of Spain were not exactly cultural throwbacks. The Alhambra Palace in Granada is the most beautiful and most graceful pleasure dome to be found on any continent. In 675 the Muslims launched their first raid on Spain, which was repulsed by the Visigothic fleet. By 711, the Arabs had conquered North Africa and were ready to invade Western Europe. in only 21 years they penetrated as far north as Tours in France before being defeated and thrown back by the Franks under Charles Martel.

The reasons for the woefully poor showing of the Visigoths vis-a-vis the Arab invaders had to do with treason in high places. As O’Callaghan remarks, “Certainly the Jews and others who had suffered under Visigothic rule welcomed the invaders as liberators and collaborated with them.” As O’Callaghan also points out, perhaps to avoid endangering his academic standing, the Jewish renegadism was justified by the “disorder” of the Visigothic Kingdom. The re-conquest of Spain started in the rugged mountains’ of Asturias in northern Spain. There a Visigothic knight, Pelayo, refused to bow down to the Muslims and won the first battle in a 700-year-war between Islam and Christianity. The Reconquista, as it is known, was a glorious era in the history of the West. A proud and fierce people would be tried and tested in a thousand battles. The Jews, as is their custom, quickly burrowed into the Arab fabric of Spain. Generally preferring Muslim to Christian overlords, the People of the Book were allowed to practice their religion without interference and became key elements in Muslim society. it need hardly be added that the Christians who had suffered from Jewish money men in Visigothic times, came to loathe them more than ever in Muslim Spain.

By the 11th century the situation in Spain had become fluid, with the Christians slowly nibbling back parts of their lost lands, while constantly under the threat of fierce Muslim counterattacks. It is not surprising that the eternal “middlemen” should rise to the surface in these troubled times. In both the Muslim and Christian parts of Spain, Jews engaged in all their age-old occupational specialties: usury, the slave trade, prostitution, tax “farming” (contracts to collect taxes for the kings and nobles), the law, medicine, administration and any other type of employment that required little or no physical labor. Worst of all from the point of view of the pious Christian population, they were able to infiltrate the church in large numbers. It was this last activity that led to their downfall. As Muslim power waned, Jews relied more and more on the expanding Christian kingdoms of Spain to provide them with their customary perks. Employed by Spanish monarchs in the most sensitive matters of state, especially in finance, Jews never had it so good since the good old days of Solomon. The Chosen, however, could not enter the church without converting. It was not too long before true Christians realized that the Christianity of most “New Christians” was only skin deep. That converted Jews mocked the Christian religion, celebrated Jewish feast days, and were slowly and subtly introducing Talmudic themes into Christian theology were open secrets. It was no wonder they came to be viewed as a hostile element, busy weakening the Christian nation in the very face of the Muslim enemy.

High-Octane Religiosity

In the Middle Ages religion was the fault line of the world. In the same way that the West fought communism in this century, so the Christian West fought the power of Islam in those crucial years. Religion was central to all aspects of life, there being no such thing as a secular state. It is a waste of words to argue that Christian Spain should have made room for Jews and Muslims. Such an accommodation was quite out of the question in the Age of Faith. When Spain expelled the Jews, England, France and other European nations had long since sent them on their way, for approximately the same reasons. The main difference was that the number of Jews and their influence and affluence in Spain were vastly greater than elsewhere in Europe. Ironically the European nations that would later condemn Spain for expelling Jews were the first to voice suspicion of Spain’s “purity” because it had been “defiled” by the presence of so many Jews and Muslims. Queen Isabella agreed up to a point. She knew very well that as long as Jews remained in her kingdom they would constitute a political, cultural, philosophical and theological fifth column, not to mention a military liability in the event of a Muslim attempt to retake what they had lost, a scary scenario that was always a possibility.

Isabella and her husband, Ferdinand, knew in their hearts that only by building one undivided and indivisible Spain could they carry out the tremendous task they had set for themselves. They understood what we seem to have forgotten: You cannot build a nation out of disparate population groups widely separated by culture and religion. Either Jews and Muslims would leave or renounce their faith, or Spain, as a united Christian country, would never endure. Although Jews are not a race, they act like a race and should be treated as one. Anthropologically speaking, they are various mixtures of the Nordic, Alpine and Mediterranean races, with a few distinctive facial traits showing up in many of them. Isabella’s relying on religion to define a Jew may have been adequate in her day, but it would be wide off the mark in 1992. Today, in the U.S. about 70% of Jews are non-religious. To use Judaism as a basis for expelling Jews would allow the more intelligent and more devious Jews to remain in our midst.

The Jews in the Christian Spain aborning were not fools. They were quite aware that popular sentiment was rising against them. Fighting back in any way they could, they bribed powerful and corrupt nobles and worked their way into high positions in the government and church. All in vain. In 1391 massive anti-Jewish pogroms broke out across Spain. In that year, thousands of Jews were killed in Aragon and Castile, in the words of O’Callaghan,

Hostility towards the Jews had often been manifested in the past, chiefly because of their involvement in money-lending and tax-farming. Complaints about Jewish usury and Jewish tax collectors occur again and again in the records of the Cones [the Spanish parliament or assembly] . . . . Though the Crown usually promised to attend to these complaints, Jews continued to figure prominently in the management of royal finances. The riots of 1391 spelled the beginning of the end for Spanish Jewry, although it would still hold on for another hundred years. The simple truth was that Spain had outgrown Jews, just as it had outgrown Muslims. The Jews, as stated previously, had no part to play in Spain’s great years, which, some cynics say, is why Spain had its “great years.” The Encyclopedia Britannica (1963 edition, vol. 2 1, p. 122) adds: “The tide of national enthusiasm, religious fanaticism and indignation at Jewish financial operations reached its high-water mark about three months after the fall of Granada. . . .” Apparently there were early-bird Milikens and Boeskys in the ranks of Spanish Jewry. Professor Philip W. Powell, in his book, The Tree of Hate (published in 1985) attributes the expulsion of the Jews to a religious conflict between Judaism and Christianity. He is not afraid to meet the issue of anti-Semitism head on: ‘The very misleading term of ‘anti-Semitism’ is so carelessly, or malevolently, tossed about these days that it virtually has no meaning except as a convenient rock to hurl in anger–but, like a rock, it can hurt.” He goes on to say: “The Jews’ impassioned opinions hamper the writing of fair and unbiased accounts of Spain. Jewish emotion, when aroused by historical memory of [the] Spanish Inquisition and expulsion, exaggerates and distorts, and certainly gives little shrift to the Spanish side of the story …. Jewish writers are aided by a popular opinion, much of it created by themselves, which for centuries has influenced writing upon these themes.”

Powell points out that while it is true that all the 165,000 or so Jews who refused to give up Judaism were expelled in 1492, many more chose to stay and converted. Those who only converted superficially underwent various forms of capital punishment. Jews and other writers of anti-Spanish tendencies, have preferred to focus attention upon these Spanish crimes as a means of demonstrating Spanish cruelty and bigotry. The usual groundwork for this is a morality of later centuries applied to 15th and 16th century historical situations, without that sense of justice so essential to historical interpretations. Or, sometimes more simply, it may come from the well-known Jewish propensity for cultural replenishment out of martyrdom. Professor Powell gets to the nitty-gritty in these words: “But the majority of the Spanish people, witnessing [all the] evidence of Jewish-Converso influence . . . . and simply the numbers of Jews daily discernible in the population would, and did, view the situation with antagonism.”

Explaining that this antagonism sometimes led to mob attacks on Jews, Powell dryly adds, “If there was anything uniquely Spanish in all this, it was not intolerance or bigotry, but rather a notable forbearance in comparison to the ways the Jewish problem was handled elsewhere in Europe.”

Inquisition Hype

The chief purpose of the Spanish Inquisition, established in 1480, was to ensure that Jews did not create a “state within a state.” The Inquisition was a defense of the monarchy and a defense against treason. Many European states applauded its creation as a needed step to rein in Jewish power. Whatever the Inquisition was to become once the Jews had gone, it served its primary purpose in ridding Spain of a hostile force of infiltrators and subversives at a time when the church and nation were in grave danger. The ferocity of the Spanish Inquisition may well stem from the fact that it was in large part staffed by Jewish converts, who amply demonstrated that they had lost none of their innate venom by switching religions. Jewish converts who fell all over themselves to prove their loyalty to their new faith were the driving force behind the grim and fanatical persecution of other Jews. Tomas de Torquemada, the ferocious Inquisitor General, who sent so many of his brethren to the stake, is said to have been of Jewish descent. No less an authority than Salvador de Madariaga, one of modern Spain’s leading intellectuals, holds to the view that the peculiar intolerance of the Spanish Inquisition can be traced, in part, to the presence of Jewish converts in its highest ranks. Madariaga, by the way, made up for this “anti-Semitic” opinion by stating that Columbus was a converso, but not necessarily a marrano (pig in Spanish), a derogatory term for a convert who practiced Judaism secretly. Several Jewish scholars, including the non-scholars of Time magazine, have accused King Ferdinand of being “part Jewish,” though they never satisfactorily explain where the Jewish genes came from. To sum up, Spain’s expulsion of the Jews was logical, rational and, for the times, not overly cruel – far less cruel than what modern Jews have done and continue to do to the Palestinians. The Spanish have no need to apologize for their actions in freeing their nation from a harmful internal enemy. The Jews resented their expulsion, as they have resented other forced exoduses in their history. The truth is, contemporary Jews should not blame Spain for their ancestors’ misfortunes five centuries ago. They need only to look in the mirror.

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N.B.F. and W.R.

37 Comments

  1. I don’t have enough time to respond to this, but will toss out 3 points:

    1. Barry was elected to the Senate because the media decided it was in the public’s best interests to force open the sealed records of his opponent’s divorce. The info ended up forcing the resignation of the Republican candidate;

    2. To the extent Jewish people played a role in Barry’s rise, and clearly some did, I have this to say: “Great move. Hope you’re happy, a** holes!”;

    3. While most Jews still adhere to the belief Medieval Spain under the Moors was some sort of golden age, that view is finally being corrected. It’s only been within the past few years scholars & historians have reexamined the subject and are starting to conclude the “golden age” is a myth. A big myth. Jews (and Christians) paid an enormous tax to be second class citizens with all manner of restrictions.

  2. WHY SPANISH INQUISITIONS DID NOT WORK–A BETTER SOLUTION.

    Thanks for the interesting article, Sir. I would like to add 2 points:

    First of all, I believe there is an error in the article, where it states that 70% of the Judaists are non-religious. I think the real number is the other way round. Only 20% of the “Jews” are secular:

    http://www.jcpa.org/dje/articles2/howrelisr.htm

    Secondly, the problem with expelling Jews are many, including the fact that they will return as they will convert temporarily to Christianity, etc. The whole of the Jewish racket is based on preying on Christians, who naively believe they are God’s Chosen People. Worshipping Jews-us easily turns to worshipping Jews, despite all their evil deeds.

    The solution is to get out of Christianity and return to the pagan religions of our ancestors. See jesusneverexisted.com As long as there are Christians, Judaists will appear and reappear in their midst and flourish in their midst.

  3. Warspite. I encourage you and others remotely like you – bright, well educated, secular Jewish and non Jewish – to read and re-read this article/blog – especially the Instauration Magazine history lesson about 15th century Spain.

    There is so much involved in this history lesson and current events and yes, the Jewish synagogue that is one block from Barack Obama’s Chicago mansion does indeed look like an Islamic mosque.

  4. “Looking in the mirror.”

    Were there reasons which prompted countries to refuse admission to them, expel them, restrict them to certain areas and livelihoods, and, occasionally, to massacre them? Or was it simply thousands of years of bigotry and a visceral hatred?

  5. In case you’re not familiar with it, William, I’ll alert you to 1922’s “The Jews,” by Hilaire Belloc. It was republished in the 1930s, with a new introduction, after the outbreak of the Spanish Civil War and the beginning of anti-Jewish legislation by the Third Reich; but at the moment, I’m not encountering that latter edition online. (It’s the edition I obtained from Philadelphia’s public library when I read the book, many years ago.)

    The following is a Google Books link to the work:

    https://books.google.com/books?id=XU9aAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=The+Jews+Hilaire+Belloc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCAQuwUwAGoVChMIyoTZqve9yAIVxDs-Ch12nA46#v=onepage&q=The%20Jews%20Hilaire%20Belloc&f=false

    In September 2014, the Occidental Observer treated the book in a three-part article, whose first part is at the following:

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2014/09/reflections-on-hilaire-bellocs-the-jews-1922-part-one-of-three/

  6. One of the most interesting things about the expulsion of the Christ-killers from Spain, was that they almost to a man, gratefully, happily went to Muslim lands, where they were welcomed by the Hagarenes!

    Yeah. Our two greatest enemies as Whites/Christians, are the Jews and the Moslems. And both have been forever disenfranchised from Elect status as the Chosen People of God… no matter what Franky or Benedict Arnold may have said.

    Oh, and Jack?
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1185900/posts

    Happy Holiday.

  7. Although, I’m no big fan of the Italians & Roman Catholics in general, Columbus would have been a odd duck of an Italian sailor if he had not spent a considerable amount of time in the Greek Isles. You have to remember that the Italian city states, Genoa and Venice, had trading bases all over Greece and the eastern Mediterranean. Also, Spain controlled large areas of Italy at the time.

    Columbus and his men had nothing, but, raw courage attempting to circumnavigate the globe in 3 little, leaky ships, with only the most primitive of navigational tools.

  8. The Spanish Expulsion of the Jews is another misnomer. Although the Jews were expelled from Spain and by Spanish Pressure Portugal, most merely went north to the Low Countries, which were under Spanish Jurisdiction, ie Belgium and Holland. They financed the Dutch in their long war with Spain which didnt end until 1648 when the Netherlands and Belgium were united as one independent nation. In fact Jews like Baruch Spinoza came from Portugal to the Low Countries to find freedom as did thousands more.

    The English Jews that came after 1655 were all Spanish/Portugese Low Country Jews from the Netherlands. By extension 99% of the Jews who were in the USA mostly before 1830 in Dixie were Sephardic English Jews.

    Yiddish Speaking Germanic Jews began coming to England after George I became King in 1714 because he united England with the Duchy of Brunswick-Lüneburg in Germany which he controlled. Any Jew that could get to Brunswick could get to England, because they were one nation. After the Napoleonic War, England began becoming flooded by Jews especially in London and soon after we did too.

  9. Spain’s collapse centuries later is equally instructive. They did not fall for lack of middle men and usurers, but because while the rest of Europe was industrializing and making things, while Spain scoffed at such efforts.

  10. this is an excellent essay. A couple points:

    1) while the Jews and their adherents portray the inquisition as a proto-holocaust…nothing of the kind occurred. For the most part, having a nose to the wind, the Spanish Jews had already liquified most of their wealth and sent it abroad, as per Werner Sombart’s THE JEWS AND CAPITALISM: “the Jews were never mulcted”. That’s right, as a rule the Jews do the mulcting

    2) Henry Kamen, a Jew, has written a revisionist (i.e., factual) study of the Inquisition. The total number of Jews executed during its entire span was…about…500. That is, c. 1.86 Jews per year. A Jew/Marrano was more likely to be struck by a bolt of lightning than hindered by the inquisition

    (Editor’s note: the following made allegations that are not documented by clear facts and crossed over in to the area of conspiracy theories. We at OD deal in facts)

  11. “Notice how the fanatical, murdering hordes of Muslim ISIS Army NEVER EVER attacks Israel?”

    I respond:

    There are clear reasons for this. Israel has sound defense policies, effective border walls, IDF is used to defend Israel against all enemies, IDF doesn’t get wasted trying to “make the world safe for American style democracy” or guard one set of Koreans from another set of Koreans.

    A big reason ISIS doesn’t attack Israel is similar reason ISIS hasn’t (yet) attacked Russia, Russians. Russians and Israelis know how to effectively fight for their own people/interests. Something the United States of America hasn’t done since well, maybe the War of 1812.

  12. I encourage all our readers to share this article, with the 15th century Spanish history lesson far and wide with those who have potential leadership skills.

    There are many, many important points to take from this history lesson.

    1) This isn’t the first time we – White Indo European people, nominally “Christian” have found ourselves in a chaotic, multi cultural society with very strong hatred and violence with Muslims and the Jewish presence was once noted, now it is only whispered about with all kinds of wild notions and theories.

    2) Muslims and Jews were once very much on the same team, on the anti White, anti Christian team.

    I note that now this year 2015 – it is only on the issue of the Arab vs Israeli conflict in Israel/Palestine or some specific Muslim terrorism/murders of Jewish people in Europe where the Jews and Muslims are on opposite sides.

    In the USA, I note that ~ 85 of Muslims in America voted for Obama. Jewish Americans voted ~ 80% for Obama.

    Source:

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/cair-poll-more-85-american-muslims-picked-obama

    http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/ben-shapiro-why-jews-vote-leftist

    So some policy recommendations.

    Make opposing bad immigration, especially bad Muslim terrorist immigration a/the leading issue. Restricting Muslims from invading, raping, murdering or just changing our White societies -this is always popular with the common man in the US South, Western Europe or the UK, Australia.

    When you/we make opposing radical Islam, mass non White, Muslim immigration the heavily Jewish marxists at the SPLC will hate us just as much, scream RACIST, NAZI just as much as if we tried to do 1930s anti Semitic statements, propaganda.

    Now understand, the System, Neo Conservative media will try to spin White fear and resentment to mass Muslim immigration in to new/old US wars in the Middle East – get Ted Nugent or some puppet folkish singer to do a “Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran” song, or we’ll see if this force can try to re ignite the Cold War and get confused Red State Southern Americans to hate and go to war against our kinsmen the Russians – hey it worked in two world wars against the Germans and the bombing of the Serbs.

    Remember – it wasn’t very long ago that our nation actually bombed Christian Serbs in to submission to create a Muslim state/Muslim base in Kosovo Central Europe! Jewish Neo Conservatives or just American elite Jewish power led by the likes of Madeline Albright took the lead in this counter crusade for the Muslims getting back in to Europe.

    So, one of my points is that Jewish power has been used in the past to take the invading Muslim side against White Christians in Spain, Kosovo and other places. Or Jewish powers that be just like to see chaos with everyone divided up over religious sectarian, tribal splits so others don’t concentrate on opposing Jewish wealth and power.

  13. no, Jack. ISIS doesn’t attack Israel because it is a MOSSAD operation….

    (Editor’s note: remainder of comment was deleted, violates OD comment guidelines prohibiting spreading wild, unsubstantiated conspiracy theories. Yes, healthy Southern people – our target market have real, fact documented problems with real Jewish people and Jewish dominated organizations and causes. Sheldon Adelson, George Soros, the SPLC, Charles Schumer, the Weinstein Brothers do what they do, which is very hostile to our people and our civilization. These negative things they do can be clearly documented, we do document these bad things. But, this is not the same thing as going off the deep end, embracing wild, impossible Sci Fi conspiracy theories and blaming all our own failings on THE JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZ.

    If you can’t get a date or hold a job, look in the mirror – that’s probably the person must responsible for your personal failings. I on the other hand can hold a job, run a successful business and I can get a date. I’m dating a “White Hispanic” from Venezuela and taking up Salsa partner dancing. My advice to any and all who are even flirting with these wild, Jew obsessed conspiracy theories….

    Shut up and lear to dance!)

    • ISIS is a MOSSAD operation! Unbelievable. The Big Lie in proto-form.

      There is a reason(s) ISIS has no significant present interest in Israel, and they make little secret of the reason(s). However, to understand the reasons you must be able to analyze the World as it really is, not through some weirdo Nazi/Eugenic glasses.

      ISIS is a radical Sunni-based organization. All Shiites are heretics who need to be killed. All Christians are heretics who deserve death. Jews are also heretics who deserve death. There are also some other groups like Druze & Alawids I’ll skip over. Of these three, Shiites are the worst, since they are Muslim heretics. Then come Christians. There are lots of Christians & to recreate the Caliphate out of Baghdad those Christians must go.

      Finally come the Jews. All the Jews under consideration are a small number in an area the size of N.J. Israel is on “the list” but it’s considerably below many others matters. Plus, as Jack points out, Israel is the toughest nut to crack in the region. And Israel has nuclear weapons. It is just a matter of common sense to put destroying Israel much lower in priority than many other tasks.

      There are at least two reasons I respect Jack’s opinion. I very often disagree, but I definitely read what he writes with interest. First, he has actual knowledge of History. Second, he does not have some world-view that is a vast distortion of reality. He is right that during much of Muslim history the Jews involved preferred living under the Muslims than Christians. But Jack knows that is history, not today’s reality.

      One more thing. Jack’s opinions, with which I often differ, arise out of his interpretation of “freedom of association”, not nutty race/genetic pseudo sciences (and pseudo every other field). The freedom of association arguments and reasoning have a place at the table of ideas, the stuff some others talk about is neo-Nazi trash.

  14. The 1999 eleven-week bombing of Serbia on the false pretense of “100,000 in mass graves” and “ethnic cleansing” was the turning point in my political life. I was enraged. I even denounced it worldwide on a shortwave broadcaster. They stole a core province of Serbia and handed it to Muslim terrorists, the KLA, which had been called the most dangerous terror group in Europe by the US Dept of State. At least the old (as opposed to the new, current) Cold War kept the maniacs on both sides in check.

  15. Thanks William.

    There were so many events like the Neo Con, Lib bombing of the Serbs that I felt should have just changed American popular opinion.

    How the *&** could we do that?

    I was engaged to be married to a Serbian young woman in Montenegro about 4 years after the war and locals kept asking me “Why did YOU GUYS take the Turk Muslim side against us”?

    I tried to explain Jewish things associated with Madeline Albright and how the Jews go nuts when any White European people go in for nationalism, how the Jews won’t allow any homogenous White nation, but then I just simply shrugged my shoulders and said”

    “most Americans are idiots. They just simply follow whatever gets pushed to them on our worst ever American TV”.

    I think the Jews have a term for people like most Americans..l

    Dumb Goyim – kind of like cattle.

    Should I waste my time driving around Wisconsin, stopping my car and trying to educate Wisconsin cows?

    🙂

    Anyway – I think this is an important history lesson – explains why Most Muslims and Jews were on the same team in 15th century Spain and why 80% plus of both Muslims and Jews voted for Obama in 2012.

  16. The “reasoning” seems to be this:

    Israel wants Assad gone.
    ISIS wants Assad gone.
    Therefore Israel is behind ISIS.

  17. I agree with Warspite’s analysis and I consider him now our best, most reasonable OD reader. I don’t have many respectful, fair minded readers who appreciate my hard work defending our Southern kinsmen and related kith and kin. Too many of “our people” have fallen down in to all kinds of unhealthy habits and obsessions – stuff like worshipping Black SEC thug “college in name only” football players. Stuff like going nuts and becoming obsessed with all kinds of weird, impossible, kook conspiracy theories. These ridiculous conspiracy theories have been around in one manner or another since the early 1960s, then it was all supposed to be involved with getting us invaded and conquered by….

    THE RUSSIANS.

    We/I should be so lucky.

    Warspite, I apologize for the often poor quality of OD comments. I try to police, clean up the comments section at least on my blog posts.

    But, hey – it’s a fallen world. And we all have to do what we can.

  18. Btw our “pals,” the Albanian Muslims in Kosovo, beheaded many Serbian Christians, just like ISIS.

  19. Warspite. Do you read the Atlantic Magazine?

    The daily blog has unfortunately fallen mostly down in to anti White PC propaganda, especially the blogs of Ta Nesi Coates.

    But occasionally there are a few articles of honest, tell it like it is brilliance.

    Once such article was

    “What ISIS really wants”

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

    And pretty much everything they “Want” is a living hell or torturous death for anyone who looks or thinks like I do.

  20. I agree it is unlikely Columbus was Jewish. The evidence is circumstantial from observers, etc., without there being any good internal evidence from Columbus himself. However, because of the circumstantial evidence there will always be a somewhat plausible, “maybe….

    Interestingly, there is probably more evidence on Columbus being Jewish than the “Khazars as Jews” thing. Those who actually study the issue are actually now speculating the story is a myth. That’s not something beloved by modern Jews, since the story of the Khazar aristocracy converting to Judaism is very popular and well-liked.

  21. If redundancy ad infinitum, unbridled mania and displaced aggression were instrumental to building a solid foundation to success, wouldn’t the pro-White world have established a large foothold somewhere in the USA over the last 40 years? Maybe it’s just a coincidence that those within the pro-White world who have an abundance of those traits and characteristics become more vocal and brazen the further they are pushed away from mainstream society and further from life outside of the Internet. Or maybe there’s just a distinguishable pattern that some people have a hard time seeing or at least admitting to being able to see. Personally, I see a pattern.

    In all seriousness, Denise, have you ever met or come across a non-Jewish Jew-centric, like yourself, who you would classify as crazy, insane, unbalanced, or simply a detrimental and destructive personality whose momentary lapses of “truth” are completely overshadowed by their obvious mania and mental illnesses?

    You say you found Stormfront years and years ago. What have you done since then? Stormfront was/is nothing more than an Internet novelty that stagnated and lost hope of any real relevancy about a decade ago. Any truth or statistically-backed facts that were excreted from its bowels were quickly swallowed up and lost in the vast ocean of nitwits, perverts, fakes and phonies, emotional retards, and various other losers that clung to the notion that a Stormfront “education” was something that they could successfully apply to the real world. But you and most of the other Jewcentris would try to convince me that it’s really “The Jews” holding everyone back, right?

    It seems to me that there’s this convenient little world where one can be as unhinged and insane as they want to be, just so long as they bring along their get-out-of-the-asylum-free card that says It’s The Jews!

    For the record, I’ve done more than my fair share of pointing a finger at Jewish hypocrisy and destructive meddlesomeness and bravado over they years. I’ve also corrected more than a few stooges who, either ignorantly or maliciously, tried to blame Jews for things they just weren’t guilty of perpetuating; but The Jews didn’t make me write this or anything else. I will receive no money or compensation, no reprieve from their spite, and I’m 100% non-Jewish White.

    76% West Europe
    10% Ireland
    10% Italy/Greece
    2% Great Britain
    1% Scandinavia
    1% Finland/Northwest Russia
    0% European Jewish

    So when I say kiss my White ass if you don’t like honest critique of counterproductive paranoia and mania, then at least you can take solace in the fact that it’s a very, VERY White ass that I’m asking you to kiss.

  22. “But Jack knows that is history, not today’s reality.”

    That’s helpful, isn’t it, Jack? In case you’re not sure what you know, Warspite’s here to inform you.

  23. J B from Phily

    The jist of my article is history lesson about Spain 15th century and commentary, documented by facts the American Jews and American Muslims vote the same way in US Presidential elections:

    over 80% for Obama.

    Sane, practical people might use this information, these facts to convince their friends, relatives and neighbors that these are (unpleasant) facts of life. So, since the American Jewish population is under 2% and Jews vote over 80% Liberal Left Democrat, why should jewish donors (Sheldon Adelson) and Jewish groups be calling most of the shots in GOP Presidential politics?

    And it’s also unpleasant realities that Jewish people in Spain 15th century and in the USA now year 2015 do not share White American’s strong opposition to mass Muslim immigration – Muslims and Jews vote the same way in our domestic politics.

  24. Thanks JB from Phily.

    I like the French Resistance music video – very beautiful, inspiring. I’m not sure the quote from the anti Christian Jewish Rabbi is appropriate or works here, might be trying to do too much.

    Here’s another good one:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBnXCotdkaE

    French Nationalists are damn good, plus they feature talented, beautiful young French women.

    Another big turn off with American paranoid, conspiracy theory Jew haters – few, or no chicks.

    Have some fun out there. Dance, listen to great music, enjoy the sight of a pretty young western woman – all things banned by Islam.

  25. Hey Hunter I’m loving these French resistance music videos by Les Brigandes.

    Can I make a music break featuring these spirited young French gals on our side?

  26. Celestial Time // October 13, 2015 at 4:09 pm //

    “In all seriousness, Denise, have you ever met or come across a non-Jewish Jew-centric, like yourself, who you would classify as crazy, insane, unbalanced, or simply a detrimental and destructive personality whose momentary lapses of “truth” are completely overshadowed by their obvious mania and mental illnesses?”

    Without Jewsers the Jews would have hijacked WN and SN, just like they did Conservatism and the Libbies.

    While telling on Jews is useful to keep Jews out of organizations, telling on Jews is not useful for recruiting – because its just telling on people.

    I decided long ago to let them do their thing and I’ll do my thing. Arguing with them only encourages MORE discussion of Jews.

    Also punching to the Right does not work. See Cuckservatism Inc. for proof.

  27. William H McCarty // October 13, 2015 at 8:27 pm //

    “Why was it necessary to delete Denise’s innocuous posts?”

    Jack deletes and that’s all there is too it. If you don’t like it post in Hunter’s threads.

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