For most of my early life, a period when I was in the Conservative, patriotic American camp – the State of Massachusetts was always synonymous with the hated East Coast, Harvard, Kennedy family Liberalism so despised by Southerners and other regular working Americans. Massachusetts was Cambridge, Harvard Law, Ted Kennedy – the source of forced busing, the worst of the 1960s. In the 1972 Presidential election between Richard Nixon and George McGovern, McGovern won only Massachusetts and the District of Columbia. Massachusetts even elected Governor Mike Dukakis who gave a weekend pass to convicted murderer Willie Horton, who proceeded to rape a married White woman! Well, times supposedly changed. Ted Kennedy finally died, Pat Buchanan did well in Massachusetts, Mitt Romney was even elected a Republican Governor, the Boston Red Sox finally broke the curse of the Bambino and the New England Patriots have been the most successful White NFL team since Vince Lombardi’s Green Bay Packers! So maybe that terrible bad Liberal Leftist Massachusetts thing was….
A thing of the past?
No, emphatically no!
This week crazed idiot Liberal Massachusetts’ US Senator Elizabeth Warren came out of the closet to do the full monty of destructive, anti White, idiot Leftist, cultural Marxism.
Lizzy embraced the…
BlackLivesMatter movement!
BlackLivesMatter is the Black criminal Leftist “movement’ which grew out of the rioting and looting in Ferguson, Mo., where the 300 pound Black thug Michael Brown was killed after he provoked and lost a violent confrontation with an honest police officer. BLM is heavily infiltrated by Black criminal street gangs and has been linked to ambushes and murders of honest police officers.
Here’s Sen. Elizabeth Warren mouthing anti police, pro Black criminal anarchy lies:
“None of us can ignore what is happening in this country,” she said. “Not when our black friends, family, neighbors literally fear dying in the streets. This is the reality all of us must confront, as uncomfortable and ugly as that reality may be. It comes to us to once again affirm that black lives matter, that black citizens matter, that black families matter.”
Warren also called for major policing reforms, such as de-escalation training and body cameras for all police officers.”
Elizabeth Warren is doing a “shout out” that she’s down with the Black brothers and Black sistuhs in the ‘hood, FIGHTIN’ White privilege, and the evil RACIST PO-LEEECE.
But, a quick Google search of Cambridge, Mass. real estate holdings reveal that Elizabeth Warren is most definitely not living the down in the hood with struggling Black folks. Instead, Warren owns a Victorian home in Cambridge ~ $2.4 Million! Massachusetts Conservatives also exposed Ms. Warren’s finance scam as marketing herself as an authentic Native American Indian spokesman earning $350,000 in one year to teach one Harvard University class. Investigations revealed that Ms. Warren was not Native American Indian, but was just another posturing, lying, 100% White limousine Liberal.
Now, what is to be done with such creatures as the lying Harvard limousine Liberal Ms. Elizabeth Warren?
I’ll let OD’s readers offer their suggestions before I offer mine.
She can be president of the remaining whack job ethnocommunist US once the South is independent and free of all of them.
These white anti-White useful idiots never get it. Your race, not your ideology, is your uniform.
As angry mobs of #Blacklivesmatter drag off these fools no amount of screaming “I’m on your side!” will do them any good.
More of the same,
Consider aiding and abetting the non White criminal mobs a bit here. Or else just put the word out to some robbers about Ms. Warren’s $2.4 million victorian home in Cambridge MA. I somehow doubt if local police are going to come running to save the property of Ms. Warren who is now actively supporting BLM movement to kill police officers.
Leave her unaccompanied in a diverse neighbourhood.
I’ve lived in a lot of University Lib communities like Cambridge Mass Harvard University. These Limousine Liberal, BlackLivesMatter, Occupy Wall Street types are rather common here and most everything they say and do is very predictable.
But, it’s a mistake to believe that everyone in these communities is a lying, anti White, pro Black gang member Social Justice Warriors.
The regular people who keep the place running, maintain the buildings, pick up the trash and yes, police the streets can be counted on to detest these #&$*# SJW Limousine Liberals as much as solid Southern patriots.
In so many instances, over enthusiastic extremely wealthy SJW in PC academia have had to back down, apologize to local police after embracing BlackLivesMatter – Ferguson MO, Trayvon etc. One such SJW was the J Tribe president of the University of Pennsylvania Amy Guttsman. She caught lots of flack for doing anti police, ceremonial burials of supposed BlackLivesMatter and then she got outed for grabbing a $2.8 million a year salary!
http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/morning_roundup/2014/09/penn-president-amy-gutmanns-salary-rises-to-2-82m.html
Penn President asked to apologize to U Penn Police
http://www.thedp.com/article/2014/12/penn-police-respond-to-gutmann-die-in
There’s another side to Massachusetts. Due to a combination of Irish Catholic clannishness and the intense anti-Communism of the Catholic Church of that era, Joe McCarthy was more popular in MA than any other state. Also remember the militant South Boston resistance to school busing. Finally, Sailer has said a few times that Boston working class whites retain a clannishness and street ownership`mentality that to this day blacks often find intimidating. That’s something you won’t find anywhere else in USA.
This is why, as tempting as it might seem, we can’t make alliances with liberal populists. Because they are actually worse on race than neoliberals and cuckservatives.
fnn // September 29, 2015 at 3:59 pm // (Edit)
Yes, I greatly admire working class White ethnic, White Catholics in Massachusetts and other North East places like Philly. Philly police chief and mayor Frank Rizo is one of my favorite Americans since World War II.
And yes, you are very right about Irish Catholics going for Joe McCarthy, also for Father Coughlin. But, getting their support entails getting down with them, shucking upper middle class WASP economic conservatism, giving up playing country club golf things like that. Our side has a very rough time doing these things.
I think alt-fighters have very little problem giving up on these things.
I meant alt-righters. Damned tablet autocorrect!
I’m a Seattleite, so I’m not in much of a position to hate Massachusetts.
When the time comes these traitors should be made to dance the Danny Deever.
Dutchman
‘Leave her unaccompanied in a diverse neighbourhood.’
Not a problem for her. She claims to be a squaw, not a paleface, right?
Brady // September 29, 2015 at 6:28 pm // (Edit)
Become a Seattle populist hero by fighting Elizabeth Warren Harvard Lib Limousine SJW bitch.
Boston used to be the most “racist” town in the US. They hated blacks like nobody’s business. It was something to behold even more than Trenton NJ and Trentonians hated them more than anybody. Maybe they are striving to make up for past sins.
Was writing about the good old days of course.
Jack:
I heartily agree with your pointing out the stupidity of Liz Warren stroking the egos involved in the execrable “BlackLivesMatter” movement, as well as her hypocrisy in talking a good game about “Black friends, neighbors, etc.” while she lives in a multi-million dollar home in an all-White area. The dig at Elizabeth phoneying up American Indian heritage is also well-deserved. But there are also some good things to toss out there about Liz Warren.
Liz Warren is NOT from the usual Top 20 college & law school, etc., privileged background. Far from it. When I knew Elizabeth Warren she was one of the nation’s leading experts on consumer bankruptcy law, and was no friend of the monied interests. Professor Warren went after the banks with gusto, showing how their issuance of credit cards and attendant policies made a joke out of the lenders’ constant bitching and complaining about the “unfairness” of the US Bankruptcy Code towards banks. She was an acknowledged and feared (by banks) opponent of the monied interests, and a genuine supporter of the common man.
Despite Elizabeth’s efforts a new Bankruptcy Code was passed by Congress, with substantial help by the Democrats. Note that in the Senate perhaps the chief advocate of banks’ interests over that of average Americans was a Senator from Delaware, Joe Biden.
I do not know what has happened to Liz Warren’s humility since getting into politics. I mean a 2 ½ million dollar home! It’s likely simple. In politics you need lots of money, and that much money doesn’t come from working families. Maybe Elizabeth Warren has just become another corrupt, hypocritical Senator, but she definitely was not always that way.
Jack, let me add some concerns about this blog as a vehicle for your writing. You do not seem to be an antisemite, do not adhere to weird conspiracy theories, and appear to generally eschew the extremist aspects of the movement to preserve the rights of White people. You also write extremely well. However, to a great extent you will always be known by the company you keep.
My experience with some of the most active participants in the OD blog showed them to be virulent antisemites. I mean the sort of antisemetism that cannot refrain from language straight out of 1938 Germany, along with conspiracy theories such as Jewish involvement in 9/11, and embracing fringe theories about most Ashkenazi Jews being descended from Khazars. Jews are, as one of your steady bloggers wrote, an “Asiatic mongrel” people.
What was most disturbing to me was the inability of these people to stop. Even under threat from you about observing the Blog’s rules barring kook theories and requiring reasonably courteous language and postings, too many of the people on this Blog could not stop. Even when threatened by you these people could not help themselves.
You make many excellent points in your essays and use persuasive language. But it is all for nothing when you can be discredited by pointing towards any one of numerous exceedingly antisemitic and racist comments by others on the Blog. When you are associated with individuals who believe Jews are evil and descended from Satan, or just toss out the entire Old Testament because of their hatred of Jews, no one except a lunatic fringe will ever take your opinions or writing seriously. At the very least you should consider taking whatever steps necessary to ensure that OD becomes a site where ideas, even if controversial or extremist, must be put forth, advocated, and argued in an intelligent manner.
Warspite
‘Jack, let me add some concerns about this blog as a vehicle for your writing. You do not seem to be an antisemite, do not adhere to weird conspiracy theories, and appear to generally eschew the extremist aspects of the movement to preserve the rights of White people.’
Nice that you’re concerned.
Shouldn’t you be davening in a sukkah tonight?
Though mostly Jewish, I’m a Karaite. So it’s a non-issue, brother.
Elizabeth Warren is a carpetbagger originally from Oklahoma. I don’t believe she ever lived in the state until she began to teach at that citadel of communism, Harvard.
Before politics, she and her family apparently made a good deal of cash flipping houses, real down-to-earth working-class stuff. BTW, John Kerry also raked in plenty of dough in the early 80s flipping condos in Boston, before he was elected to the Senate in 1984.
The worst part about Elizabeth Warren is technically a Southerner by birth. The South’s worst enemies like with all other groups have been those bred from within, who then move and collaborate with the other enemies. Never forget the Grimke Sisters of South Carolina, who were scions of the South Carolina Hugenot Aristocracy.Their father John Faucheraud Grimké was a famous judge in South Carolina
Not only the Grimke Sister, Reverend John Rankin of Dandridge Tennessee moved north to Ohio and became a radical abolitionist he was lionized by Henry Ward Beecher. James Birney, 1844 Presidential Candidate of the Liberty Party, first antislavery party was from Danville Kentucky.
The North gave aid and comfort to Scalawag scum
get used to Fauxahontas. The likely 2016 fake-election will be: Biden/Warren vs. Carson/Fiorina. Biden/Warren should win easily in the EC (Demoncrats, thanks to 30 years of Republiscam open-borders, already have a lock on 240+ votes) which – since Joe is drunken moron suffering from perpetual hoof’n’mouth – makes Warren the de facto Prez. All good: as a HardLeft, nigger-loving polarizer, she’ll do even more for the White hardright than B. Hussein has done. I wouldn’t at all mind having her on the bridge of the USS Titanic when it hits the debtberg
Why would you discredit your commentary and degrade yourself by writing, “nigger-loving” as part of your analysis? I thought your opinion about the possible match-up very interesting and was thinking about asking you if you really thought Carson would get the Republican nomination when I ran into your choice of wording.
While I admit vehement disagreement with your apparent view about Black people, that is irrelevant to my comment. The only people who use such reprehensible language in public affairs are intemperate extremists holding racist views. Personally, I think such language low-class, uneducated and dishonorable. But objectively speaking I point out to you that you could have made your points without the use of such language. So why use it?
Yes, I was born in the South, spent most of my life in the South, and received all my higher learning in the South. I even saw Lynyrd Skynyrd at one of the “Save the Fox Theatre” shows. And though I admire the Confederacy I think Slavery was an evil and insidious institution. But in thinking involuntary servitude was wrong I am in accord with a host of Southerners from Washington/Jefferson/Madison through Robert E. Lee.
I am not sure whether you will agree with this contention, or if you can even discuss it in an objective manner, but let me toss it out. Would you agree with a contention it was clear error on the part of the victorious Union not to formulate and offer a fair plan for voluntary repatriation of former slaves to West Africa? I speak of a well-planned, well-funded program offering repatriation to Liberia and Sierra Leone, on a strictly voluntary basis. While there would have been huge hurdles to overcome, those hurdles existed in every political or social direction after May/June of 1865.
I consider adult liberalism to be a genetic defect that should be bred out of society. Once we take over:
–all political class liberals and SJWs should go to the bottom of the ocean asap. Let’s not waste our land giving them graves. Just humanely dispatch them (efficient firing squad is humane enough imo but open to better ideas) and remove them from society and from the gene pool, including their children (sorry). We should NOT starve or torture them. Those of reproductive age should be at the front of the line.
I prefer this option because it is the least risky. If we delay in their executions, there is a chance they will be pardoned and allowed to reenter society and reproduce. I also do not agree with sterilization and release because they will spend the rest of their lives causing trouble and will certainly write countless novels and essays, photographs and movies painting themselves the heroes and us as the villains.
We could also send them to the Middle East and let the Arabs be the villains that killed them. That might be a better legacy for posterity. They will get what they say they wanted and we won’t be the ones doing the killing. We could shut them up in their gated communities along with a few thousand of the refugees they invited in. Then we could dispatch the refugees later.
“My experience with some of the most active participants in the OD blog showed them to be virulent antisemites. I mean the sort of antisemetism that cannot refrain from language straight out of 1938 Germany, along with conspiracy theories such as Jewish involvement in 9/11, and embracing fringe theories about most Ashkenazi Jews being descended from Khazars. Jews are, as one of your steady bloggers wrote, an “Asiatic mongrel” people.”
There is some substance to your charge, BUT the problem is that Jews like you routinely equate any criticism of Jews with “virulent antisemitism.” In effect, this amounts to a claim that Jews are fundamentally perfect – for if they were less than collectively perfect, they could be criticized, just as any other less-than-perfect collectivity can be criticized.
Obviously the very idea that Jews are so perfect they cannot possibly be criticized is ludicrous on the face of it, but make no mistake, that is quite clearly the standard that Jewish organizations attempt to enforce.
Fine, but then don’t get mad when people catch on, get angry, and tell you to go $&@k yourselves.
I’m afraid you’re quite wrong Mr. Silver. I do not equate every criticism of Jews as antisemitic. Like any defined group with (generally speaking) a common set of goals and positions, Jewish people are and should be open to criticism. Even criticism that may arguably be unfair is by no means necessarily antisemitic. How about some examples to illustrate my point.
Criticism that Jews are blind supporters of Israel is very fair. Criticism stemming from this is absolutely fair game, e.g., questioning Jews loyalty to America if they support positions not in America’s best interests. Overemphasis in Jewish culture on money and materialism is just. Madoff may have been an extreme case, but shouldn’t Jews ponder more closely someone purportedly “an honored member of the Jewish Community” when that person turned out to have even been willing to financially destroy Holocaust survivors? That big time lobbyist down in DC who was so “religious” he was endowing Jewish schools, but at the same time stealing money from Anerican-Indian tribes and referring to them in derisive terns. Where is the self-examination in the Jewish community about that incident? And there are oodles of Jewish politicians in Congress who will do whatever it takes to make Israel militarily strong, and will defend any military action by Israel, while they take polar opposite positions towards the same things in the US. Look at the Keystone pipeline and oil drilling in Alaska. If it was about Israeli self-suffiency they would be lining up to help build oil wells. But American self-sufficiency? Yeah, that seems to be another story.
I could go on and on. All of the above are absolutely valid areas for criticism of Jews or the Jewish community. Even if secretly motivated by antisemitism, labeling a critic in situations such as the above an antisemite is BS. It cheapens and undermines legitimate cases of antisemitism when that charge is slapped on anyone who criticizes actions by a Jew or the Jewish community.
The examples of antisemitism to which I refer are the real things. Demented morons who have to use the word “kike”. Who believe 9/11 was a Jewish Conspiracy and that no Jews died in the towers. People who have to write about weirdo pseudo-theology, where Jews are descended from Satan and serve Satan in mysterious rituals that even include human sacrifice. That Jews are not the Hebrews of the Bible, but instead an Asiatic horde descended from the fragments of the Khazar empire. The list goes on and on, topped by the #1 antisemitic nut job theory: there was no Holocaust. It never happened. Not a single Jew was shot and killed, gassed or otherwise executed by the Germans and their many helpers (esp. Ukrainians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Croats, Slovaks, and the French because they covered up their cooperation for so long). The position that everyone who says there was a Holocaust is a liar. When I asked an OD blogger about the Armenian Genocide, they acknowledged it happened and stated the Jews were behind it. All the bloggers who honestly believe the 18m-20m Jews in a world of over 5 billion exercise some sort of global control towards insidious “Jewish” ends.
Being Jewish I know how ridiculous, offensive, stupid or even dangerous are the above. And why would you even want such crap on the blog? I came to the blog accidentally & ended up staying because I found the writing of one blogger very powerful and well-constructed. The blogger, who goes by Paul Ryan also turned me on to John Derbyshire. While I usually don’t agree with Paul, when he criticizes Jews he does so “on the merits”. He abhors strange Holocaust, Christian-Identist, Marcionite contentions. He wants the blog to be a forum for the exchange of ideas in an effective, logical manner. That will never happen when there are bloggers here who agree with Paul’s conclusions but call Jews “kikes” and deny the Holocaust. Those people will always discredit people like Paul, and perhaps you (?), and will always allow organizations to laugh off OD as stupid and crude racists and antisemites.
I think my position is reasonable, but what do you think Mr. Argent?
How concerned are you over virulent anti-Whites, troll Warspite?
I think you’re right about anti-White statements. It’s extraordinary what Black organizations and Black people can get away with. There are so many examples of ludicrous and offensive remarks that if made by someone White would practically result in banishment. Al Sharpton comes to mind, and he makes me sick. There was a situation at Brandeis (I think it was Brandeis) where a Black girl made unbelievable remarks and skated. I’m leaving out what goes on at Divestiture efforts (re Israel) on college campuses because some of your comrades here don’t think Jews are White. But if you happen to believe Jews are White (personally, I’m almost chalk white), you ought to take a gander at what’s going on at places like Cal-Irvine. It will put to rest any concerns on your part about ongoing criticism of Jews.
The shame of all this is that I agree with Jack Ryan (sorry Jack), Silver and probably you about the legitimacy of advocating for White people. But you permit blogs and groups to be infiltrated or affiliated with kook extremists that allow you to be labeled as racists or antisemites, or even criminals. That deprives any position you advocate to be marginalized. People can talk and write about these issues without using words like “kike”, “nigger” or “mestizo”, and without advocating Holocaust denial and other kook theories. That stuff may be fun or interesting to read about, but they are not true and have no place in the serious exchange of ideas. I think people like Jack are aiming high, not looking for the lowest common denominator.
Since I don’t agree with you 100%, I get a troll label. It reminds me of your criticism of Jews using the antisemite card.
Bottom line. I’ve been around the block and realize you can’t always control the guy or gal who passes out the broadsheets. But I think if you purge the nuts, aim high by putting out well-reasoned arguments that don’t utilize overt racism, etc., get disciplined & educated leadership that cannot plausibly be labeled racist, etc. (although they will be!), use a good business plan that picks the right location to be centered, after 5 years of working your butts off you will have something real. An organization that can actually exercise some influence. It has worked for others, why not you guys (and gals)? The alternative is being lumped in with the lunatic fringe.
Warspite
Just a slight correction.
My nom d plume is Jack Ryan. Paul Ryan is a Congressman from Wisconsin and a failed vice presidential candidate
Masshole writes:
“Elizabeth Warren is a carpetbagger originally from Oklahoma. I don’t believe she ever lived in the state until she began to teach at that citadel of communism, Harvard.”
I respond:
Thanks for sharing that info, I didn’t t know that. It makes sense of her academic “I m a Native American ” academic scam and then her rise to PC anti White Lib politics based in Cambridge Mass.
Going from the sticks in some Red State to Cambridge Mass to embrace the worst anti Southern , anti White PC Leftist politics, that s pretty much the same as pretty girls from small Midwestern towns getting on buses to Hollywood CA and becoming corrupted in to whores, prostitutes, strippers, pornstars or maybe at best GF, third wives of old Hollywood producers .
Leave it to the carpetbagging Jewish guy to swoop in to the conversation and direct the focus on the idea of the perpetually persecuted Jews being targeted on a site where they allow bigots, extremists and virulent anti-Semites to comment. The premise of the article wasn’t really about Jews. The comments, up until YentaBoy swooped in, didn’t mention Jews or show even the slightest hint of “anti-Semitism.” But that didn’t stop one of the chosen from injecting it into the narrative. Then he goes on to give his sagely advice on who should be allowed to comment, who should be banned, and what language is appropriate. You see, he’s just trying to help. Trust him now and let him lead the way. You’ll thank him later.
They simply aren’t content to live in a world where they aren’t the center of the universe. The accidental tourist who “stumbled” onto this blog immediately wants to sit in the driver’s seat and be the architect and orchestrator of this new world he found.
I doubt anyone with an IQ above room temperature is truly surprised by any of this.
If nothing else, they are at least predictable. Even if their kind does, disproportionately, represent a vile strain of anti-White sickness, that kind of dedication has to count for something. I shall call him and those like him Pestilence.
Appropriate, non?
I thank Celestial for an example of how to be consigned to the lunatic fringe.
Cel, isn’t there a “Hollow Earth” convention in Tullahoma you’re missing? Or the new semester starting at ETSU? Maybe you can see the Beverly Hillbillies place in Bugtussle!
It would be rude and discourteous of me not to acknowledge the excellence of Celestial’s writing ability. Powerful and direct, rather muscular in style. Top-notch!
Ok folks, as Elvis Presley once said:
“A little less conversation a little more action”
We need to spread the world in the alternative, race realist community that Ms. Warren ‘s out of the closet embrace of the BlackLivesMatter , insult and even kill police officers – that s not acceptable, it s wrong, but more important it s a bad career move.
There are literally endless numbers of White women in places like Oklahoma who would like to have the lifestyle Ms. Elizabeth Warren has – be a highly paid Harvard University professor teaching some social justice course, then becoming one of the few women US Senators, challenging the rich and powerfully White male power structure, getting photographed in front of the Martin Luther King Jr statue, marching for civil rights etc. getting on NPR , going to international conferences in Stockholm Sweden opposing racism and climate change.
We have to make it a reality that anyone doing or even saying these terrible anti Southern, anti White pro Black criminal comments – that s has to be very bad for their social status, even career killers.
Read the great Tom Wolfe book “Radical Chic” which describes a fancy 5th Avenue fund raising party for the Black Panthers at the home of arch liberal classical music conductor Leonard Bernstein. After this book came out and brutally lampooned these idiots, Bernstein almost had to go in to hiding.
It must be that way with the likes of Ms Warren.
Warspite, instead of predictable ad hominems, why not give specific examples of my “lunatic fringe” comments? What have I lied about? Verbatim examples, not your hypersensitive and trite reactions to someone daring to cast any part of Jewry in a bad light.
Celestial Time – the commenter Warspite isn ‘t going to be taking over Occidental Dissent the same way Jewish Neo Conservatives associated with Commentary Magazine took over National Review and much of Conservative Inc – purged all the solid White guys like Joe Sobran, Peter Brimelow, John O Sullivan and now even John Derbyshire.
That s not going to happen. He and others are free to make comments here if he/they abide by OD comments guidelines , others should also abide by OD comment guidelines and there have been too many infractions on this Elizabeth Warring story.
I would like for OD ‘s comment section to be very much like our League of the South demonstrations – well organized, well dressed good looking Southern folks. People in our target market will listen to our issues if they sense that we are good people.
And let s have less swearing using vulgar curse words especially the F word. What would General Robert E Lee think of such bad behavior?
Jack, since this is your article, I will refrain from further comments so you can get it back on track.
What Lee would think or say were he still alive today and having to deal with blunt force diversity and non-stop anti-White attitudes and rhetoric is not something I care to ponder. But I’m intelligent enough, principled enough, honest enough, and just cocky enough to have my own vision of how to deal with problems:
Never trust a liar when he tells you he isn’t lying. No quarter to tyranny, and no mercy for the wicked.
“I think my position is reasonable, but what do you think Mr. Argent?”
I think the most charitable interpretation of your behavior is that you’re a random internet nobody, whose opinions carry no more sociopolitical weight than a bag of (JR Editor has deleted this word).
What matters is that the entire phalanx of politically and culturally influential Jewish organizations is firmly committed to equating any criticism of Jews whatsoever with “ugly noxious anti-semitic conspiracy theory canards.”
I regard questioning the holocaust as a wholly legitimate activity. Whether it happened precisely as claimed is beside the point. What really matters is the issue of “The Holocaust’s” long-time use as a moral anti-white battering ram. If revisionism can weaken The Holocaust’s jealous grip on people’s moral faculty then it has to be welcomed. Secondly, I have no wish to live in the moral middle ages therefore I believe that people should have the right to question and discuss anything they like, without fear of legal penalty.
Regarding BDS activity, it is one of the very few leftist movements I can wholeheartedly support. But that is only the beginning. To my mind, there is no question that the criminal state of Israel needs to be divested, delegitimized, and dismantled.
Lastly, I would recommend that if you ever visit a blog like this again, do so in humility, with cap in hand, prepared with answers to questions like ‘Is it wrong to be anti-white?’ ‘If so, are you prepared to apologize and make amends for Jewish anti-whitism?’
Silver writes:
“To my mind, there is no question that the criminal state of Israel needs to be divested, delegitimized, and dismantled.”
I respond.
This is not the position of Occidental Dissent writers and editors.
Yes, the US South, what remains of the White Indo European West has lots of problems with individual Jewish people, jewish Organizations, disproportionally Jewish inspired, directed political, social and religious “movements’ *#*$# like Neo Conservatism, Christian Zionism. Any Rand, Milton Friedman styled race denying Libertarianism etc – then there are not to distant historical horrors like the Bolshevik Coup De Tat, forced collectivization of Christian farmland in the Ukraine, Stalin’s NKVD, KGB henchmen up until ~ 1960.
But, we at OD, the League of the South, the alternative right Amren, Vdare world are focusing our time and energy in the here and now. What is possible, what is impossible or counter productive.
Becoming obsessed with hating Jews to the point that you try to openly call for the dismantling and destruction of the Jewish state of Israel – that simply does not play in Peoria, it’s a complete deal killer with White Christian people in the South, Midwest really anywhere. The only people that go in for this mindset are Anti Apartheid, ISRAEL IS RACIST LIKE WHITE SOUTH AFRICA anti White SJW, cultural marxist.
If you are so sexually frustrated that you want to go in with this motley crew, may I suggest you employ the services of a (board of health cleared) female escort? Then, have a beer and get back to reality, live a positive pro Southern, pro White life – be firm and fair with others including various types of Jewish people.
All is not lost. Lots of good things are happening in our worlds.
Just look at Russia. The last Russian Winter Olympics was the second Whitest, pro White Olympics in history. I shouldn’t have to tell you which Olympics was #1.
Attaturk wasa Donmeh JEW. He and his gang of co-ethnics engineered an almost 100% successful genocide of Armenian Christians,
The “Holco$t” (TM) isa myth perpetutated by Jewry Inc. to berate and guilt millions of un-witting Humans into believing 6 million Zhids were ovened. When the Holy Hoax is even questioned, much hissing and spitting ensues. Jews have finagled MORONS and TRAITORS to pass laws against even questioning an alleged historical event. This have not ever occurred before, in history. There is no forensic evidence to back up the Hoax claims, and when actual physical reality is examined – it’s obscenely obvious that the Hoax claims are absolutely IMPOSSIBLE to have happened. That – and tons of the Sad Tales of the Holy Hoax have been wholly debunked.
I want PROOF.
FYI – Jews did 9/11/01. Sotomayor and LBJew are/were Cryptos. So is Nancy Pelosi.
Only MORONS deny factual reality.
Maybe I’ve been lucky, but I swear there has been more antisemitism directed at me in this site over a few days than in my entire life. When I taught at WKU there were 4 Jews in the city, including me. I think I recall one incident. In Nashville I’m not sure there was anything. And with all my years in the Empire State of the South, I can only recall one thing. I guess one of the problems is you never really know what people are thinking. In real life most people would have been somewhat intimidated to spew antisemitic filth at me, but here everyone is so “brave”. Trust me, face to face you might not be so brave.
Being in America, I never really understood that antisemitism is alive & well. I thought education and time had whittled it away. I definitely never understood how unseemly it is, or how it acts as a disease, retarding people’s intelligence. For example look at Celly. I could be born in Kentucky, raised in the South, talk like a Southerner, have a bust of Lee and try and emulate him, etc., etc. If I’m Jewish it is all irrelevant to Cel. It’s a Jew is a Jew is a Jew, end of story and no exceptions.
Then there is Denise, who qualifies as a crank. Sotomayor is Catholic. LBJ was certainly not Jewish. Nancy Pelosi? Who grew up with a mob/machine politician father in Baltimore? A Jew? Come on, that’s just stupid. So even though Sotomayor and Pelosi are Catholic, and LBJ some sort of Protestant, they are really Crypto-Jews. Are they so crypto they don’t even know they are crypto-Jews?
Attaturk was Jewish. Having one Jewish antecedent does not make you Jewish. Attaturk was Muslim. He was certainly not involved in the Armenian Genocide. He was not even in politics, yet. In 1915 he was busy with the Brits, N.Z., Aussies and a few French at a place called Gallipoli. On the opposite side of Turkey from where the genocide took place.
What else. 9/11 and Jews. Really? How did Israel manage to get all those Arabs on the planes? Were they really Mossad? How did they manage to get complete life backgrounds, relatives, etc.? Since when does Mossad do suicide missions? It’s so incredibly stupid. I mean, a Muslim group proudly took credit for the operation.
The Holocaust never happened or maybe happened differently than the historical narrative? There is an incredible amount of evidence supporting the Holocaust. Anything and everything Denise could want. None of it matters. No matter what the evidence Denise will say its fake.
The whole anti-Israel thing is so illogical it’s not even worth discussing. Clearly, some of the people on this blog hate Jews, and thus hate Israel. Is Israel always in the right? No, of course not. But only a very selective view of history supports views expressed here. It’s like the canard where the unfairness of the partition is brought up. The Jews receiving more land despite a smaller population. True, but most of Israel’s land was desert. The 67 War was preemptive, and if you don’t like that blame the Soviets for giving the Arab states false info that led to the massing of troops. Israel did not plan on conquering the West Bank. Blame Jordan for joining the War (based on phony reports via Egypt) when Israel begged Jordan not to enter the War. In ’73 it was Israel that was attacked. It was the PLO, etc. that destabilized Lebanon.
I realize there are two sides to every story, but no one contends Israel wants to conquer it’s neighbors, or destroy its neighbors. No one contends Israel’s neighbors are not serious about eliminating Israel. A country, by the way, about the area of New Jersey. And the obsession with Israel is irrational in light of world events. I never saw such concern by these types about Ireland. Or about a dozen or more situations ongoing right now. There is no logic in the anti-Israel comments here. It is all driven by hatred of Jews.
And why is Denise so hot after Putin. Is this woman not aware there are few world leaders with better relations with the Jewish community, more Jewish friends, or more Jewish backers? Do you still like him Denise?
The brain retardation resulting from antisemitism clearly prevents logical reasoning. Other than Jefferson Davis there was no one in the civilian administration of the Confederacy more important than Judah Benjamin. He was from Louisiana, a brilliant senator (first real Jewish senator), and was wholly committed to the Cause. He was loyal to literally the end. When he escaped to England he started over again becoming an enormously successful lawyer in the field of Commercial Law. But to many, maybe even most people here none of it matters because he was Jewish. Since he was Jewish, he was evil, satanic, the enemy. What is that? Its stupid.
I know this will be upsetting to many, but being Jewish is just a religion. Sure there is history, culture, etc., etc., associated with it, but that’s the case with any religion. Judaism just happens to have been around a long time. It’s not a “race”. There are blonde w/blue eyed Jews, all the way to black Jews. If you want, you can become Jewish. On the other hand, Jews can convert to Russian Orthodoxy if they want. It’s just another religion, folks. Stop obsessing and coming up with weird theories. Move on and improve yourselves.
I wish Putin would annex America.
“Becoming obsessed with hating Jews to the point that you try to openly call for the dismantling and destruction of the Jewish state of Israel – that simply does not play in Peoria, it’s a complete deal killer with White Christian people in the South, Midwest really anywhere. The only people that go in for this mindset are Anti Apartheid, ISRAEL IS RACIST LIKE WHITE SOUTH AFRICA anti White SJW, cultural marxist.”
Lol, “obsessed with hating Jews.” The reason most people support Israel so uncritically is that they really don’t know anything about that conflict other than what they’ve been force fed through the mass media. The masses in Europe, where more balanced views of the conflict are available, are vastly more at ease with finding fault with Israel. The reason is simple: Israel is and always has been unquestionably the immoral actor in that conflict. No “fringe” history is required in order to develop such a view. Even Jewish historians acknowledge that the zionists never had the slightest intention of sharing the land with the arabs. I can’t stand muslims any more than you can, but you can hardly blame a people resiting their own dispossession – surely a WN could relate to that.
Jews seem to be absolutely incapable of understanding and admitting that Humans have a right to exist, and have aright to resent, loathe, and resist dispossession and displacement and genocide. So many seem to think Humans should be grateful when Jews kill them.
“The reason most people support Israel so uncritically is that they really don’t know anything about that conflict other than what they’ve been force fed through the mass media. ”
I respond.
So you are advocating forcibly shouting at 85% + White Americans in the South and elsewhere that THEY ARE STUPID and don’t really know anything about the Arab Israel conflict, Israel vs Muslim conflict, also that that they are stupid and don’t know anything about World War II or really much of anything as they are mostly a bunch of Jew television addicted dumb goyim and what everyone needs to do is to empower a bunch of dysfunctional, Jew obsessed loners, losers, conspiracy mongering nut cases who can’t get a job, can’t get a date, can’t win any local, state or federal election, can’t even compete in these elections and take the view that any of us who do have jobs, who can and do get dates who do compete and actually win elections – we’re all some how compromising with the system or worse – we’ve sold our mind, body and souls to….
THE JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZ – who control everything, who are the spawn of Satan etc.
Ah….. no. Don’t think so. don’t really want to go there.
Silver,
I apologize for my last comment.
My suggestion is to concentrate on 1 or at most 2 issues. If you are most concerned with opposing Jewish manipulation of USA foreign policy for Israel, promoting Zionist, Neo Conservative US wars for Israeli interests then consider working with more mainstream, Liberal, Left, Democrat, Palestinian rights groups. You’re going to have to put up with lots of bad, annoying Liberal Leftist talk, culture $&$$*# Jimmy Carter “Peace not Apartheid”. There simply is little or no effective opposition to Zionist, Neo Conservative wars and intrigue from a Nationalist, White Conservative side. That ended with the destruction and marginalization of Pat Buchanan and David Duke. When dealing with regular White Christian Americans try to finesse this issue, don’t lecture them that they were/are wrong stupid etc. Try to put out the meme that the last Neo Con wars in Iraq were a disaster – led to the area being turned over to ISIS Islamic terrorists. What could be worse than that? With these types immigration restriction, keeping the worst non European people out – i.e. Mohamed Ata mass murdering terrorists, Paki child rapists of English girls – that’s always going to be an easy sell. If you try to sell 9/11/01 conspiracy mongering lunacy, try to propose alliances with Al Qaeda, ISIS the Taliban against the JOOOOOOOOOOZ, well you’ll have better luck trying to sell Ice to Eskimos. 🙂
“So you are advocating forcibly shouting at 85% + White Americans in the South and elsewhere that THEY ARE STUPID and don’t really know anything about the Arab Israel conflict, Israel vs Muslim conflict, also that that they are stupid and don’t know anything about World War II or really much of anything as they are mostly a bunch of Jew television addicted dumb goyim and what everyone needs to do is to empower a bunch of dysfunctional, Jew obsessed loners, losers, conspiracy mongering nut cases who can’t get a job, can’t get a date, can’t win any local, state or federal election, can’t even compete in these elections and take the view that any of us who do have jobs, who can and do get dates who do compete and actually win elections – we’re all some how compromising with the system or worse – we’ve sold our mind, body and souls to….”
FYI – Silver is most likely 100% en pointe about the ignorance and mis-information that MOST Americans have about the TRUE Nature of Israel.
That is a total distortion of what Silver wrote. You commentary is also a total ad hominem insult to all WN. The WN I know – who are accurate in their influence of Jew fomented malevolence and mayhem, are employed/married/highly educate, and VERY functional
Now you are attacking WN in the classic Marxist manner. Why is that?
Jack Ryan, far be it from me to tell you how to run your blog, but a topic that was about the hypocrisy of Elizabeth Warren was hijacked very quickly by Warspite to become all about “anti-Semitism” instead.
I respectfully suggest you incorporate a policy of deleting any comments that don’t stay strictly on topic.
Can we find some way to bring the discussion back to SJW Elizabeth Warren and her antics instead of making this all about Warspite and his attention-whoring? Thanks.
Young lady, if people adhered to the rules of conduct, there would be no issue about that particular subject. How about all of us start addressing the issues at hand and adhering to the OD rules?
I made some comments about Liz Warren. Where she came from, her standing up to Banks and Wall Street, etc. She was a real champion of honest, average working people. The ivory tower world of Harvard was a fantasy land. But, things really changed when she got in politics.
Is it just there is so much money & need for money in politics, especially on that level, corruption is nearly inevitable? Can you think of any recent prominent pols that resisted corruption? Maybe Paul Wellstone?
“Jack Ryan, far be it from me to tell you how to run your blog, but a topic that was about the hypocrisy of Elizabeth Warren was hijacked very quickly by Warspite to become all about “anti-Semitism” instead.
I respectfully suggest you incorporate a policy of deleting any comments that don’t stay strictly on topic.
Can we find some way to bring the discussion back to SJW Elizabeth Warren and her antics instead of making this all about Warspite and his attention-whoring? Thanks.”
I respond.
Yours is a legitimate complaint. But, I think Warspite was on topic, then others starting going off topic bringing in all sorts of Anti Semitic, conspiracy mongering nonsense and then Warspite just responded in kind. Again, the OD comments guidelines should be known and respected by all here. OD is a positive, pro Southern, pro White blog – kindness means being kind to our own kind. There are others in the world including all kinds of Jewish, somewhat Jewish people – we wish them the best, but also understand that we are not Jewish and we reserve the right to defend our people, our culture, our right to exist in North America or anywhere on planet earth. 14 Words
I can understand the desire to defend those you regard as your own people, as well as defending your culture and way of life. In my opinion any Jew who fails to acknowledge at least some level of genuine sympathy with such desires is a liar and hypocrite.
Cly – let’s just discuss the topic at hand, and ignore interlopers, and subverters.
Pot
Kettle
Jews are as Whites as Elizabeth Warren is an “Indian”.
Another valid reason for hating the governmental apparatus of Massachussetts is its institutionalized hatred of private commoners’ right of arms, embodie in their too-little-known Bartley-Fox law, whih is just as outright abominable as New York’s Sullivan law.
Just see and listen to this #*&$*# lying SJW and know that her lies and treasons resulted in landing her a $2.4 million Victorian home in Cambridge Mass, $300 a year teaching scam job at Harvard as a Native American Indian (not) and now she’s in to the BlackLivesMatter hustles!
https://amp.twimg.com/v/5826f9a9-05d5-4cb2-9602-000902d1c16c
Just watch and listen to lying #&*$# SJW US Senator Warren. Understand who, what this is, and then calm down and work with others (me) and take appropriate action. Almost any instance where our side confronted wealthy Liberal pols, academics embraced Black gang members, cop killers, the lying SJW have backed down.
Our main problem is we can stay focused on the issue at hand, instead we tend to go off on hobby horses, conspiracy theories, personal feuds.
Come on folks, this is really and easy one for us – virtually every honest working person in and around Cambridge MA, Boston detests this lying filthy rich SJW B*$*#@. Just get the word out, make the calls, write the e-mails.
Here are some contacts for the Harvard University police – understand they despise this $*&$@#. They can and will do what is necessary to make this %*#(% B($*#$ back down.
Do it:
Stay calm, do not threaten anyone, be polite. But, yeah, just let the locals know what this lying #&*$# SJW is saying and doing – enabling cop killers.
Police Department Directory
Francis “Bud” D. Riley
Chief of Police
617-495-1780
francis_riley@hupd.harvard.edu
Kevin Regan
Deputy Chief, Administration
617-496-3243
kevin_regan@hupd.harvard.edu
James Claiborne
Deputy Chief, Operations
617-495-3821
james_claiborne@hupd.harvard.edu
Michael Giacoppo
Deputy Chief, Support Services
617-495-3490
mike_giacoppo@hupd.harvard.edu
Robert Harrington
Robert Harrington
Lieutenant, Operations
617-496-1255
robert_harrington@hupd.harvard.edu
Amy DiVirgilio
Amy Divirgilio
Lieutenant, Operations
617-495-1879
amy_divirgilio@hupd.harvard.edu
Office of the Chief
Steven Catalano
Steven Catalano
Special Advisor to the Chief of Police/Public Information Officer
617-495-9225
steven_catalano@hupd.harvard.edu
Karen LeBlanc
Karen LeBlanc
617-496-3244
karen_leblanc@hupd.harvard.edu
Lisa Mickiewicz
Lisa Mickiewicz
617-384-5953
lisa_mickiewicz@hupd.harvard.edu
Police Details
Daniel Staffieri
Daniel Staffieri
Officer
617-495-0832
daniel_staffieri@hupd.harvard.edu
Dignitary Protection Unit
Downing
Denis Downing
Sergeant
617-495-0764
denis_downing@hupd.harvard.edu
Chang
Jose Chang
Officer
jose_chang@hupd.harvard.edu
Gilbert
Andrew Gilbert
Officer
andrew_gilbert@hupd.harvard.edu
Property and Evidence
Laureen Donahue
Laureen Donahue
Officer
617-495-1783
laureen_donahue@hupd.harvard.edu
I’ll just remember to avoid your posts Ryan. Easy peasy.
Wasn’t it Barry Goldwater who once said he often thought the United States would be better if the eastern seaboard was sawed off and allowed to fall into the ocean?
There is no question about the pretensions of much the Northeast and some of New England. I never understood why working class people in Mass. would vote for a Kennedy regardless of his politics, or NY voting in Hillary as their Senator. The Hilldog had no ties with NY, and could not possibly be familiar with their issues. It’s as if I was suddenly elected Senator in Washington State.
In both of the examples the explanation is self-importance. New Yorkers decided they HAD to have a “high profile” Senator because they are so important. Ditto in the case of Mass. Even though he was known to be a hypocritical drunk, Mass had to have Ted Kennedy and that Kennedy name in office for Mass. It allowed Mass residents to convince themselves how important they are compared to that annoying “flyover” country. Hell, the Kennedy name (and mucho $$) even allows you to get away with murder.