Jorge Ramos: Envisioning Trumpland

By Hunter Wallace

THIS. SOUNDS. AWESOME.

““Trumpland” would feature a 1,954-mile-long wall along the United States’ border with Mexico, to be constructed after the deportation of more than 11 million undocumented immigrants. Of course, Trump would ensure that the U.S.-born children of these immigrants lose their right to American citizenship, so they’d be deported as well. As Trump sees it, with the border wall up and the immigrants out, the U.S. could be a great nation again. …

For Trumpland to be free of undocumented immigrants, terror would necessarily reign. Imagine authorities across the country, raiding homes, workplaces and schools, violating the human rights of millions of men, women and children. President Trump would have to send soldiers, police officers and every agent from Immigration and Customs Enforcement to round up immigrants. After these brutal raids, the undocumented would need to be held in stadiums or other giant facilities while they waited to be put on buses or planes back to their countries of origin. …

But let’s not forget that in Trumpland, the 14th Amendment would be repealed, so the children of undocumented immigrants would be stripped of their citizenship. That means that 4.5 million children — from newborn babies to students getting ready to attend college — would also be leaving the country. What if a child’s father was from Mexico and his mother was from Honduras? Where do you deport a kid without a country or a passport? These are details that Trump has yet to address. …

In the end, Trumpland, a twisted utopia of walls and hate, looks nothing like the America I know. The billionaire real estate mogul’s grand scheme would not lead to a greater nation; it would only give birth to a realm of bigotry, xenophobia and divisiveness.”

Jose Antonio Vargas should be the first to go!

Note: I doubt we will be this lucky. Even if Trump won the White House, he would still have to deal with the puppets in Congress and the federal courts.

40 Comments

  1. The best thing about this development is that more anti-whites will press for Partition, and de facto segregation will increase.

    There are areas in the territory of the United States that are extremely non-white, especially at the younger ages. We are trying to unilaterally break away from them, but it would be easier with a “partner for peace”.

    Unfortunately, Trump doesn’t have much of a ground game set up, he needs to do this ASAP. With a strong state-by-state organization he can influence the GOP primaries to get a stronger cohort in the party.

    Rand Paul needs to drop out as well. At this point he is just running out of bitter spite. He was promised a legitimate chance at winning if he played ball in 2012, and what has he gotten for that? Trump did what Paul was in a position to do from day one!

  2. Anti-whites won’t press for partition. They are more than happy to take advantage of the benefits of living near white people. They’re not just going to leave us alone.

  3. The immigration is always one way from non-white ares to white areas and once in our territory they cling to us for dear life like this Ramos.

  4. “In the end, Trumpland, a twisted utopia of walls and hate, looks nothing like the America I know.”

    Yes, that’s the idea, Jorge.

  5. The Mexicans are lucky that there isn’t a Drang Nach Suden.

    Point the USAF, Marines and Army at Mexico and take their damned land.

    Lol.

  6. Donald Trump be like: I’ve got $10 billion, I’m willing to spend $1 billion of it to be President, but here goes Jorge Ramos giving me free campaign advertising. I’m the luckiest sonofabitch this side of 5th Avenue!

  7. Sounds like fantasy like Hunter wrote in his last sentence… Trump reminds me of a younger and much richier Buchanan. Even the Cuckservatives Republicans supporters think of him as an arrogant buffon. Believe me, I am quite aware that Jeb or Hillary are very bad choices as well. Big mouth aint everything.

  8. “Even the Cuckservatives Republicans supporters think of him as an arrogant buffon.”

    Even? Nice try, Artengo.

  9. May the liberals choke on their absurd false framing of things. There’s absolutely no reason to bother with rounding all illegals up in stadiums and rapidly deporting them. Merely enforcing the laws, deporting them when they have a taillight out, and punishing the employers would be plenty sufficient.

    But if they want to keep insisting that it’s the only way to do it, the American people may very well oblige their arrogant demands.

  10. It’s amazing the way Trump gets his trolls and digs in for people with ears to hear and eyes to see. Trump says things that RESOUND with the right people especially here and among our dedicated enemies but that go over the head over the man on the street.

    I attended the rally in Mobile, Alabama where Trump entered the stage to Sweet Home Alabama. Then, with a nearly all all-white crowd behind him, before he got going with his main remarks, he causally said something to the effect of “these are the people who built the country.” Later in the rally, Trump casually alluded to genes and genetics, rhetorically asking do you believe in the gene thing” (or something to that effect).

    Now in the clip above after warming up by mocking Bush, Trump sent a message to straight to Hillary Clinton. He casually alluded to Hillary’s dyke lover and her sham marriage to that Jew Anthony Wiener, all wrapped up in allusions to general here corruption.

    Trump is going for it all. I still don’t know what his agenda is, but I hope we ultimately get more out of this than entertainment.

  11. IOW, just like when Senator Tom Cotton speaks about attacking Iran, he is signalling intentions to Sheldon Adelson and other super-elites as well as speaking to the mass audience, I strongly suspect Trump is speaking on more than one level, too.

  12. I still don’t know what his agenda is, but I hope we ultimately get more out of this than entertainment.

    Any real leadership would recognize this as a prime opportunity to organize and use the Trump juggernaut as both a diversion and an indirect recruiting tool. I’m not going to go into the dynamics of how/why this is achieved, but I can assure you that the organizations, groups and individuals who are more active and assertive will eventually be in a better position than they are now, regardless of where the Trump juggernaut finally comes to a stop.

    Pro-Whites need to stop being content with relegating their positions to that of voyeurs and passive-aggressive wimps who live vicariously through others. If there was ever a time to be assertive and bold and engaging, now is it.

    The time for proselytizing and incessantly pointing to the problems has run its course. Now it’s time for people to step up and present feasible solutions and practical applications that others can at least test out in the real world. There are certain personal aspects that keep me from being a guy who desires to be that guy. But someone needs to be that guy or work with others to be part of a larger group of guys/gals working as a leadership team.

  13. Lew
    ‘The latest from Trump. This is masterpiece art in its own way. It belongs in the Louvre.’

    Tremendous! Bing, bing, bing.

    That little taco Jorge is a dual citizen of Mexico and US. He says he votes in both countries. Can we say divided allegiances, Whore-hay?

    He claims to be so concerned about human rights and the plight of Latino border jumpers here. However, his country of Mexico has extremely prohibitive immigration laws. He is nothing more than an anti-White reconquistador.

  14. John B:

    Actually it’s almost impossible for Trump (even god forbid as POTUS) to overturn or repeal the 14th.

    Constitutional amendments are hard to do for a reason

    Both Senate & House would need to pass a bill and send it to the 50 States Legislatures

    38 States legislatures would need to ratify the bill and in the timeframe allowed. No way 38 states would pass such a bill. Trump has a better shot at being selected by NASA for Astronaut training for a mars mission

    The early 1970’s Equal Rights Amendment for women did not pass in 7 years, was given an extension and still did not pass

  15. Fuck the 14th amendment. As Carl Schmitt wrote, the true sovereign is not the law but he who makes the exception, that is, he who decides what a given law means. If the 14th amendment’s equal protection clause means that whites must suffer forced integration and that gays can marry, surely the actual text does not matter. What matters, again, is who has the power to enforce and interpret meaning.

    Over the last 70 years, the ultimate sovereign on many important issues has basically been the federal courts. I’ve been thinking about how Trump can get around them. I think a good way to do it would be threaten to pack the courts the as FDR did and bypass Congress under some novel theory of executive power. The Constitution does not establish the number of SCOTUS or federal judges the way it established things like the president’s four-year term.

    There is A LOT that can be done if we get a real friend, or at least a real enemy of the established elites, gets the powers of the presidency.

  16. OK; maybe this is pure wishful thinking and a blatant case of me seeing what I want to see. However, on the topic of Trump’s possible use of code-speak and signalling to various audiences, I just noticed Trump described his last speech as a “happening.” That’s a word with loaded meaning in far right circles.

  17. @Lew
    I do not trust people who speak in code, because it leaves the door open for them to back off and feign ignorance. That is precisely why politicians do it.

    “I just noticed Trump described his last speech as a “happening.” That’s a word with loaded meaning in far right circles.”

    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    >The Constitution does not establish the number of SCOTUS or federal judges the way it established things like the president’s four-year term.

    That is clever. It would be a way for dictators to seize power, as the Supreme court has proven they will interpret things any way they see fit to push an agenda. Effectively they are an unelected dictatorship.

  18. @Lew
    Just so you know, Trump is taking advantage of a situation that already exists. A situation that was created by others. He did not create it, but he will claim credit for it. He is a politician, that is what they do.

  19. It’s amazing how few presidential candidates even mention in passing the interests of white, Christian Americans. On the Left, only Sanders even mentions working-class whites and their economic interests. I guess they are illegitimate, since they enjoy “white privilege.” On the Right, we have Ted Cruz lecturing Middle Eastern Christians– who face extermination– to support “Israel and the Jews” on he’ll turn his back on them. Kasich says all lives matter, but black lives matter “especially now.” Rubio speaks of the great human interest stories of “dreaming” illegals, but ignores the human stories of Americans who have suffered nightmares because of them. Trump called for deporting Hispanic illegal alien gangs first, but I haven’t heard a single candidate yet endorse his intention to throw out these violent and murderous drug dealers. I guess they too come “out of love.”

  20. Richard, I too am suspicious of code-speak for the same reason you are. There is no evidence Trump has any real principles. If he wins, somehow, he might do nothing or even the opposite of his platform. That is a real possibility. In that case though, no one will be any worse off, because the alternative would have been a Democrat or a Republican. Trump is at least saying some of the right things openly.

    Regarding the idea that it’s happening, it’s a meme or term the younger generation of far rightists used to use to describe any current event with the potential to disrupt or undermine the existing order. Trump may not have anything by it; that might have just been the word he chose. But even if he meant nothing by it, it’s clear to me Trump likes thinly-coded jabs (ex: go back to univision).

  21. “Actually it’s almost impossible for Trump (even god forbid as POTUS) to overturn or repeal the 14th.” – He doesn’t need to. He’d merely need to not enforce the idea that there is no difference between lawful and unlawful entry into the US to end birthright citizenship for foreigners. Separation of powers and all that.

  22. Deport illegals? The law is already on the books.
    Build a wall? Ditto.

    Return to the rule of law. It would be nice for a change.

  23. Lew
    ‘Sorry for spamming. But lots of good stuff in this one too. At about 38:30 Trump goes off on black gangs and says we are doing to deal with them.’

    Fabulous!

    Not one of the politicians on either side of the fence dare to point fingers at black lawlessness and savagery. Much less offer solutions.

    Only Trump.

  24. Many scholars dispute claim that 14th amendment applies to anchor babies.

    Lots of info here: http://www.14thamendment.us/birthright_citizenship/original_intent.html

    ‘In 1866, Senator Jacob Howard clearly spelled out the intent of the 14th Amendment by stating:

    “Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country.”

    This understanding was reaffirmed by Senator Edward Cowan, who stated:

    “[A foreigner in the United States] has a right to the protection of the laws; but he is not a citizen in the ordinary acceptance of the word…”

    The phrase “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete. With illegal aliens who are unlawfully in the United States, their native country has a claim of allegiance on the child. Thus, the completeness of their allegiance to the United States is impaired, which therefore precludes automatic citizenship.’

  25. Isn’t “a happening” a 1960s hippie thing? I don’t think it means anything other than Trump lived during that era.

  26. They can write and reason brilliantly and come up with logically and legally unassailable arguments against 14th Amendment birthright citizenship for illegals but it won’t do any good. The Supreme Court will decide according to their personal preferences and feelings.

  27. William H McCarty // August 29, 2015 at 9:23 pm //

    “Isn’t “a happening” a 1960s hippie thing? I don’t think it means anything other than Trump lived during that era.”

    I remember now. Its an M Night Shyamalan movie which was widely mocked. Then when the Hollywood actresses mobile phone pictures were released, the kids called the event “The Fappening”.

    I find it hard to believe a billionaire has time to follow what kids are doing. He probably has staff to advise him of these trends.

  28. Trump should ship this loud mouth midget beaner back to Mexico.

    Jorge Ramos: But while no fighting is taking place on the military or legal fronts, there is fighting going on culturally. It’s the reconquest.
    Latinos are reconquering lands that once were part of the Spanish empire…

    Jorge Ramos-The Latino Wave: How Hispanics Will Elect The Next American President

  29. Jorge Ramos is is shamelessly distorting the WSJ article to advocate his political views. He quoted the WSJ article as:

    “In fact, in 2013 more undocumented immigrants from China entered the U.S. (147,000) than from Mexico (125,000), according to a recent report in The Wall Street Journal”.

    Here is the WSJ article

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/immigrants-to-u-s-from-china-top-those-from-mexico-1430699284

    It simply counts foreigners as immigrants and says nothing about their legal status It clearly points out that

    “Researchers counted as an “immigrant” any foreign-born person in the U.S. who said they previously lived abroad, without asking about legal status. (So while the data include undocumented immigrants, it may undercount them.)”

    So when Ramos quoted it, he intentionally added the word “undocumented” to fool people, to blur the line between legal and illegal immigrants. You see how disingenuous and corrupted this man is. And this is the most trusted voice in the Latino community?

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