Sweet Land of Liberty

Thomas J. Sugrue's Sweet Land of Liberty
Thomas J. Sugrue’s Sweet Land of Liberty

American North

I bought this book on sale last month when I was in St. Louis.

It is about the forgotten history of the Civil Rights Movement in the Northern states. I’ve only read the first two chapters.

So far, I haven’t seen anything that contradicts my view of the origins of the Civil Rights Movement.

The existence of the Union is the only reason why the “Civil Rights Movement” triumphed in the South. There was a dramatic shift in White Northern racial attitudes during the Second World War.

It was the Second World War that provided fringe leftists in the Northern states with their historic opportunity to push their “civil rights” ideas into the mainstream:

“That they reached their success in the midst of the Second World War is no coincidence. Advocates of racial equality got a hearing – precisely because their rise coincided with the battle against fascism abroad.

The unexpected shift if the politics of race during World War II was not, as any good Depression-era leftist might have acknowledged in a reflective moment, wholly of the radicals’ own making. The secular and religious lefts forced Americans to confront the pressing and still unresolved question of racial inequality, but they had unwitting allies. The civil rights impulse had been deeply rooted in the American past, yet it came to the surface in America in one particular moment, the 1940s. And it did so because of a shift in national politics and a simultaneous grassroots struggle from below. The left aided and abetted both, but ultimately the interracial left came in from the margins and made its mark on American history because of good timing. Its leaders and activists alike vocally decried injustice when the world was convulsed in a battle against one of history’s most violent and racist regimes.”

Prior to the Second World War, White Northerners didn’t want to hear much about the blacks and their social problems.

The war against Hitler’s Germany reawakened the old crusading spirit of Radicalism in the North that had been unleashed on the Confederacy. White Northerners became more abstract and ideological and the ‘contradictions’ between their ‘American Creed’ and the circumstances of blacks emerged as a social problem.

Note: Much of the North was segregated in custom until the aftermath of the Second World War.

There were civil rights laws in every Northern state that banned segregation, but in practice these laws were often ignored. The Second World War forced the North to choose between its ideals and customs.

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54 Comments

  1. PP,

    That’s mighty charitable of you rising to the defense of Jews. Jews presently have you on the same list as Al-Shabab Islamists.

  2. PP

    Your definition of obsession with the Jews is just bringing them
    e up in a conversation one time, one mention of our elder brothers in faith and the pro Semites come out of the woodwork. Bill Buckley tried jew friendly conservatism and we see what came of that ,the future is Golden Dawn and Jobbikk get with the program or keep polishing off your “heritage not hate” bumper stickers.

  3. fnn

    Very well put the evil the Anglo Saxons inflicted on continental Europe was thrown back in their faces. The British lost their empire the South got the Civil Rights movement and the Northerner Yankees had the pleasure of being well paid toilet cleaners to the Jews in the country they used to run.

  4. Who’s the guy in the blue shirt with Star of David being thrown in the trash? I only got through the first few minutes, but he looked like the epitome of normal to me.

  5. Prussiancroat says:

    ‘PP

    Your definition of obsession with the Jews is just bringing them
    e up in a conversation one time, one mention of our elder brothers in faith and the pro Semites come out of the woodwork. Bill Buckley tried jew friendly conservatism and we see what came of that ,the future is Golden Dawn and Jobbikk get with the program or keep polishing off your “heritage not hate” bumper stickers.’

    You raise a straw man argument. I do not have any ‘heritage not hate’ bumper stickers and have many times voiced my opposition to that slogan.

    You also use a false dilemma argument. Our choices are not confined to Bill Buckley and Golden Dawn/Jobbik. Those parties might be the future in Greece and Hungary. Just because an approach works in one place doesn’t mean it will necessarily work in another. I know this is likely too much logic for you given the juvenile nature of your attack against me. Hopefully others will see though.

    Finally, if the problem were just someone bringing up the Jews once then it would be no problem at all. The problem is harping on them, constantly insulting them and using strange sounding-language (see Fr. John’s post) when denouncing them. And pointing out that this doesn’t work is not the same as rising to their defense, Lew. I’m interested in building up a large, powerful movement to advance the interests of my people – not in sitting around writing attacks against the Jews online every day.

  6. Palmetto writes: “The obsession of (especially Internet-based) WN with the Jews, hating them and blaming them for all our problems hurts efforts to deal with real-world problems. It plays into the enemy’s caricature of us.”

    This IS the enemy’s caricature of us.

    Keeping on message and connecting with your constituency is all well and good. People who go off-message in a particular context–hoisting a 9/11 truth sign in a Southern Nationalist demonstration, for instance–are a problem, even if they are 100% right about their hobby horse.

    But the Jewish question is much bigger than that. There are appropriate forums for discussing it. After all, you can’t know who your friends are if you don’t know who your enemies are. And if Jews are the single biggest impediment to whites regaining control of our destiny and solving our problems, then we can’t ignore that fact, and we can’t allow Jews in our organizations. Since we know that Jews seek to infiltrate and control their opposition, and a Jewish infiltrator will sound exactly like a sincere Jewish sympathizer. If we’re right and you don’t deal with the Jewish question from the start, then all your efforts will be in vain.

  7. Re: Prussiancroat

    Abolition was a crazy, destructive idea.

    We have already seen how abolition became the 13th Amendment. Black citizenship was another destructive idea. It became the 14th Amendment. Black voting rights became the 15th Amendment.

    “Civil rights” wasn’t a Jewish idea. Yankees started pushing for “civil rights” immediately after the abolition of slavery. They made blacks into US citizens and “civil rights” became an issue when the scope of their rights was contested in the defeated Confederate states.

    President Andrew Johnson was impeached and the Southern states were dissolved and put under Military Reconstruction in order to protect black voting rights and “civil rights.”

    Yankees passed the Force Acts of 1870 and 1871 to suppress the Klan:

    http://www.arch.ksu.edu/jwkplan/law/civil%20rights%20acts%20of%201866,%201870,%201871,%201875.htm

    The Civil Rights Act of 1875 attempted to integrate public accommodations in the United States:

    http://www.arch.ksu.edu/jwkplan/law/civil%20rights%20acts%20of%201866,%201870,%201871,%201875.htm

    From Maine to Minnesota (with the exception of Indiana), Yankees repealed their anti-miscegenation laws before 1887:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-miscegenation_laws_in_the_United_States

    Starting with Massachusetts in May 1865, the Northern states passed comprehensive civil rights laws that banned segregation and required integration. The Northern states also repealed their own antebellum black codes which had prohibited blacks from settling in states like Illinois and Indiana.

    The Force Act of 1890 was an attempt to impose a Voting Rights Act on the South:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lodge_Bill

    Through the late 19th and early 20th century, one Northern state legislature after another passed “civil rights” laws at the state level:

    Iowa: banned public accommodations segregation (1884 and 1892).

    Minnesota: banned segregation in public education (1887), banned public accommodations segregation (1885, 1887, and 1895).

    Wisconsin: banned segregation in public accommodations and public transportation (1895).

    Michigan: banned segregation in public education (1871), banned anti-miscegenation laws (1883 and 1889), banned segregation in public accommodations (1885).

    Illinois: repealed exclusion of free blacks (1865), banned segregation in public education (1874 and 1896), banned segregation in public accommodations (1885 and 1897).

    Indiana: banned segregation in public education (1877), banned segregation in public accommodations (1885).

    Ohio: banned segregation in public accommodations (1884), banned anti-miscegenation laws and segregation in public schools (1887).

    Pennsylvania: banned railroad and streetcar segregation (1867), banned segregation in public education (1872 and 1881), banned public accommodations segregation (1887).

    New Jersey: banned public school segregation (1881), banned public accommodations segregation (1884 and 1898).

    New York: banned public accommodations segregation (1873, 1881, and 1895), banned school segregation (1894 and 1900).

    Rhode Island: banned public education segregation (1882).

    Massachusetts: banned public accommodations segregation (1865, 1866, 1885, 1893, 1895), banned public education segregation (1894).

  8. Re: Clement Pulaski

    Let’s review:

    1.) 19th century egalitarians succeeded in destroying slavery.

    2.) 19th century egalitarians succeeded in making blacks into US citizens.

    3.) 19th century egalitarians succeeded in rewriting the Constitution to protect black voting rights.

    4.) 19th century egalitarians succeeded in repealing all the black codes that had enforced segregation in the North and which had prohibited or fined blacks who settled in a handful of Northern states like Illinois and Oregon.

    5.) 19th century egalitarians succeeded in suppressing the Klan.

    6.) 19th century egalitarians succeeded in repealing all the anti-miscegenation laws in the North (with the exception of Indiana).

    7.) 19th century egalitarians succeeded in banning segregation in education and public accommodations in most Northern states.

    8.) 19th century egalitarians succeeded in subordinating the states to the federal government with the 14th Amendment.

    In other words, the 19th century egalitarians succeeded in laying the whole foundation of the present system in which blacks are citizens and protected by federal and state “civil rights” laws.

    In the early 20th century, there was a huge falling off in enforcement of the existing civil rights laws in the North as the attention of Northerners shifted away from civil rights, but all it took in the end was 1.) a war to change public opinion and 2.) federal lawsuits to successfully challenge segregation.

  9. @ Hunter

    A lot of places they have “no spitting on the sidewalk” ordinances, and “no spitting in the elevator ordinances”, that doesn’t stop people from spitting. Unless the ordinances are enforced.

    The Northern big city politicians, and big Northern corporate money, particularly the railroad corporations in the 19th century, wanted to steal the wealth of the South, and bring the South under Northern political control. Slavery, civil rights, etc. were only excuses for the theft of the wealth of the South.

    The Catholics first, then the Jews were added over time to the Northern bag of evil tricks. The Catholics, and the Jews surely haven’t made anything any better. Nor will adding 40 million more Mexican Catholics, or millions more of the Jews’ Moslem cousins to it.

  10. PP, you did a good job of explaining things, but I’m afraid your words of wisdom are wasted on folks like Lew and PC. They’re, along with a couple of others, are riding a hobby horse that only knows one path. That path is called “the Jews are the reason everything that’s wrong in our world.” Yeah, like all the other races (including ours) and ethnic groups haven’t contributed to the mess we got today. The Jews don’t have enough numbers or power to mess things up this badly. Look at the Middle East. Are the Muslim countries messed up because the Jews, or is it because the Muzzies are doing a bang up job on themselves with their ancient antiquated laws, customs, and attitudes? Considering the Jews are under watch in those countries, I highly doubt it. And this screaming “Jooos, Jooos, Jooos”, all the time, how does that build up pride and unity in our own group? It’s far more important to educate our people about our ancestors did or didn’t do, than it is to constantly run down another group of people. The Jews and the Muslims constantly run down others outsiders, and look what it has got them over the last 1500-2000 years. The Jews, even though they have a thin sliver of land in the Middle East, are scattered and hated by the rest of the world for their contempt of the rest of humanity. The Muslims, even though they sit on billions of galleons of oil, are the most backward people (besides the Blacks) in the world. Their Islamic culture prevents them from thinking new thoughts that might advance their civilization. Any material advances they might have made comes strictly from contact with the West, which they hate with a passion, cause we’re the infidels. And if anything goes wrong in their sandpits, is ours or the Jooos fault, not their own. So, if we’re going to advance ourselves, we do have to believe in our cause, but we have to be careful about messing it up by self destructing. And while we must be wise about our enemies, we must remember internal rot will destroy us if we’re not careful. Our enemies can bring us down only if we give into any weaknesses that we have.

  11. Palmetto Patriot says: ‘Finally, if the problem were just someone bringing up the Jews once then it would be no problem at all. The problem is harping on them, constantly insulting them and using strange sounding-language when denouncing them.’

    Substitute the word Jews with the word Yankees and meditate on that for a spell.

    Truth is, harping on Northerners and Yankees is also an obsession, is it not?

    All one needs for proof is to read through the threads on this forum alone for the past few years.

    But there are few if any complaints from your side of the fence, as it were, for THAT sort of obsessive behavior.

    However, criticism of Jews is considered out of bounds and counter productive.

    Palmetto Patriot says: ‘Lew. I’m interested in building up a large, powerful movement to advance the interests of my people’

    And Jews are hell bent on making sure your plans never come to fruition.

    Is that not a fact?

    Palmetto Patriot says: ‘– not in sitting around writing attacks against the Jews online every day.’

    Abe Foxman and Mark Potok are most appreciative.

  12. Interesting. But I thought this book review was about the post-WWII civil rights movement.

    Nowhere did Jews identify themselves more forth­rightly with the liberal avant-garde than in the Civil Rights movement of the 1960s…

    More than any other factor, it was the participation of Northern Jews in the Civil Rights movement that tapped that residue. These were the people, it is recalled, who were the earliest supporters of the fledg­ling National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. In 1914, Professor Emeritus Joel Spingarn of Columbia University be­came chairman of the NAACP and recruited for its board such Jewish leaders as Jacob Schiff, Jacob Billikopf, and Rabbi Stephen Wise.

    Jews also were the earliest supporters of the Urban League, founded in New York in 1911 to help newly arrived black migrants from the rural South. The International Ladies Garment Workers Union and the Amal­gamated Clothing Workers took the lead in organizing “our black brothers” for union membership (over the opposition of the American Federation of Labor national board). And, in the climactic civil rights drives of the 1950s and 1960s, Jewish participation was all but overwhelming.

    In the landmark 1954 Brown v. Board of Education ruling itself, the Supreme Court accepted the research of the black sociologist Kenneth Clark that segregation placed the stamp of inferi­ority on black children. Clark’s study had been commissioned by the American Jewish Committee, and it appeared in the amicus curiae brief the Committee submitted to the court. The Anti-Defamation League and the American Jewish Congress also submitted amicus curiae briefs in behalf of the cause. Once the judgment was issued, these Jewish defense organizations continued to file legal briefs in civil rights cases dealing with housing, employment, education, and public accommodation. Many local and state desegregation regula­tions actually were drafted in the offices of the Jewish agencies.

    Jewish participation in the Civil Rights movement far transcended institutional associations. One black leader in Mississippi es­timated that, in the 1960s, the critical decade of the voting-registration drives, “as many as 90 percent of the civil rights lawyers in Missis­sippi were Jewish.” Large numbers of them were recent graduates of Ivy League law schools. They worked around the clock analyzing wel­fare standards, the bail system, arrest procedures, justice-of-the-peace rulings. Racing from one Southern town to another, they obtained parade permits and issued complaints on jail beatings and intimida­tion.

    Jews similarly made up at least 30 percent of the white volunteers who rode freedom buses to the South, registered blacks, and picketed segregated establishments. Among them were several dozen Reform rabbis who marched among the demonstrators in Selma and Birming­ham. A number were arrested. Others were taken into custody for attempting to desegregate a swimming pool in St. Augustine, Florida. One of the demonstrating rabbis, Arthur Lelyveld, was severely beaten in Hattiesburg, Mississippi. A young physician, Edward Sachar, vol­unteering his medical services to the freedom marchers, nearly lost his life as his automobile was forced off a Mississippi back road by local rednecks.

    Two young New Yorkers, Michael Schwerner and An­drew Goodman, served in 1964 as voting-registration volunteers in Meridian, Mississippi. One of their coworkers was a young black Mississippian, James Cheney. Together they were waylaid and mur­dered by Klansmen, their bodies dumped in a secret grave. As much as any single factor, it was the nationwide attention given the discov­ery of their corpses that accelerated passage of the Voting Rights Act of 1965. The Jews had long since achieved their own political and economic breakthrough. Rarely had any community gone to such lengths to share its painfully achieved status with others.

    http://www.myjewishlearning.com/history/Modern_History/1948-1980/America/Liberal_Politics/Black-Jewish_Relations/Civil_Rights_Movement.shtml?p=1

    I think that it’s clear that the post-WWII civil rights movement was basically a partnership between Southern blacks and Northern Jews. Yes there were some Northern whites involved along with some Southern race-traitors, but it was primarily a Negro-Semitic alliance against the white man. That’s how the historical record reads to me anyway.

  13. Here’s Kevin MacDonald taking Hunter to task for obfuscating the crucial role of Jews in the civil rights movement:

    Occidental Dissent has an article on Solomon Blatt, a powerful Jewish politician in South Carolina who was a staunch proponent of segregation during the 1950s and 1960s (“The Strange Career of Solomon Blatt“). Interesting article, but it ends thus:

    “South Carolina’s desegregation shows that the existence of the Union, not Jewish influence, was the primary cause of the South’s racial and cultural decline.”

    This does not follow. One surely can’t argue that because one Jewish politician in one state opposed desegregation that Jews did not have a decisive influence on the Civil Rights movement in general. South Carolina by itself could not withstand the onslaught against desegregation given that the laws against segregation were national in application…

    Because attitudes opposed to segregation are now a consensus among Americans, the decisive role of Jews in the Civil Rights movement is now a point of pride among Jewish organizations (see Stuart Svonkin (1997). Jews Against Prejudice: American Jews and the Fight for Civil Liberties. New York: Columbia University Press). Civil Rights remains a focus of Jewish activist groups like the ADL.

    In any case, suffice it to say that the attitudes of one Southern Jewish politician do not change the big picture of the role of Jews and the organized Jewish community in the Civil Rights movement.

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2013/06/jews-and-the-civil-rights-movement/

    Read the whole thing.

  14. From the beginning of the Civil Rights Movement, Blacks and Jews marched arm-in-arm. In 1909, W.E.B. Dubois, Julius Rosenthal, Lillian Wald, Rabbi Emil G. Hirsch, Stephen Wise and Henry Malkewitz formed the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP). One year later other prominent Jewish and Black leaders created the Urban League. Julius Rosenwald and Booker T. Washington worked together in 1912 to improve the educational system for Blacks in the South.

    Thus, in the 1930s and ’40s when Jewish refugee professors arrived at Southern Black Colleges, there was a history of overt empathy between Blacks and Jews, and the possibility of truly effective collaboration. Professor Ernst Borinski organized dinners at which Blacks and Whites would have to sit next to each other – a simple yet revolutionary act. Black students empathized with the cruelty these scholars had endured in Europe and trusted them more than other Whites. In fact, often Black students – as well as members of the Southern White community – saw these refugees as “some kind of colored folk.”

    The unique relationship that developed between these teachers and their students was in some ways a microcosm of what was beginning to happen in other parts of the United States. The American Jewish Committee, the American Jewish Congress, and the Anti-Defamation League were central to the campaign against racial prejudice. Jews made substantial financial contributions to many civil rights organizations, including the NAACP, the Urban League, the Congress of Racial Equality, and the Student Non-Violent Coordinating Committee. About 50 percent of the civil rights attorneys in the South during the 1960s were Jews, as were over 50 percent of the Whites who went to Mississippi in 1964 to challenge Jim Crow Laws.

    http://www.pbs.org/itvs/fromswastikatojimcrow/relations.html

  15. Re: Greg Johnson

    Their descendants have grown steadily worse as they have pushed ‘liberty’ and ‘equality’ (i.e., Americanism) to ever greater extremes.

    I established above that Yankees created “civil rights” in the aftermath of their great crusade for abolition. They spent the rest of the 19th century attempting, unsuccessfully, to impose “civil rights” on the United States as a whole, but succeeded in getting it done in the Northern states.

    The Northern states were already integrated when Jews began to arrive in large numbers from Southern and Eastern Europe in the 1890s and 1900s. From roughly 1900 to 1940, enforcement of the existing civil rights laws declined as Northern racial attitudes hardened.

    The Reconstruction Amendments and the Northern civil rights laws were never repealed though. The damage was already done. All it took was a shift in public opinion caused by WW2 and federal lawsuits to get the ball moving again.

  16. Here’s my review of Fight Against Fear: Southern Jews and the Civil Rights Movement which shows how uninvolved Southern Jews were in the Civil Rights Movement:

    Yes, but you yourself crunched the numbers one time and found there were only (quoting from memory) about 200,000 Jews in the entire South at the time, compared to 1.5 million just in the NYC metro area and millions more in the rest of the country. Like I said, the civil rights movement was primarily an alliance of Southern blacks and Northern Jews.

    Kevin MacDonald is right.

    These paragraphs from the above link pretty much sum up MacDonald’s thinking:

    In the post–World War II period the entire gamut of Jewish civil service organizations were involved in black issues, including the AJCommittee, the AJCongress, and the ADL: “With professionally trained personnel, fully equipped offices, and public relations know-how, they had the resources to make a difference.”By the end of the 1940s the ADL had designated the South as particularly in need of change; the ADL monitored instances of racial tension and violence and increasingly sought intervention by the federal government in the affairs of the region, including racial segregation.

    Jews contributed from two thirds to three quarters of the money for civil rights groups during the 1960s.The AJCongress, the AJCommittee, and the ADL worked closely with the NAACP to write legal briefs and raise money in the effort to end segregation. Jewish groups, particularly the AJCongress, played a leading role in drafting civil rights legislation and pursuing legal challenges related to civil rights issues mainly benefiting blacks. “Jewish support, legal and monetary, afforded the civil rights movement a string of legal victories. . . . There is little exaggeration in an American Jewish Congress lawyer’s claim that ‘many of these laws were actually written in the offices of Jewish agencies by Jewish staff people, introduced by Jewish legislators and pressured into being by Jewish voters.’ ”

    Jews were also instrumental in creating the intellectual context that made possible the revolution in racial relationships in the U.S. … During the 1930s, the AJCommittee funded the research of Franz Boas who was instrumental in eradicating the idea that biological race was an important source of differences among people. …

    The general term for this multi-faceted effort by Jewish organizations to alter ethnic relations in the U.S. is the intergroup relations movement. This effort included legal challenges to bias in housing, education, and public employment. Jewish organizations also drafted legislative proposals and attempted to secure their passage into law in state and national legislative bodies. Another prong of this offensive was shaping messages in the media, promoting educational programs for students and teachers, and, as noted above, promoting intellectual efforts to reshape the intellectual discourse on race in the academic world. The ADL was centrally involved in these efforts, “utilizing radio and television spots, clever jingles, filmstrips and other media efforts.”The ADL recruited Hollywood stars such as Bess Myerson who toured the country with the pitch that “you can’t be beautiful, and hate.” Hollywood movies, such as Gentleman’s Agreement and The House I Live In also disseminated these messages, and the play South Pacific, by Rodgers and Hammerstein, included a theme of interracial marriage and a song stating that children had to be taught to hate. As with Jewish involvement in immigration policy and a great many other instances of Jewish political and intellectual activity in both modern and premodern times, the intergroup relations movement often worked to minimize overt Jewish involvement.

    Jewish organizations take great pride in the history of the civil rights movement for good reason: they masterminded it, they financed it, they propagandized it, they manned the barricades, and in the end, it was their victory.

    • Yes, but you yourself crunched the numbers one time and found there were only (quoting from memory) about 200,000 Jews in the entire South at the time, compared to 1.5 million just in the NYC metro area and millions more in the rest of the country. Like I said, the civil rights movement was primarily an alliance of Southern blacks and Northern Jews.

      Yes, I think I made my point.

      If it were not for the existence of the Union, the “Civil Rights Movement” would have never triumphed in the South.

      Jewish organizations take great pride in the history of the civil rights movement for good reason: they masterminded it, they financed it, they propagandized it, they manned the barricades, and in the end, it was their victory.

      I’ve already shown how this isn’t true:

      1.) The Reconstruction Amendments made blacks into US citizens. They permanently altered the balance of power between the states and the federal government. They also constitutionally enshrined black voting rights.

      2.) Jews had nothing to do with the initial flurry of “civil rights” laws which were aimed at suppressing the Klan and enforcing social, civil, and political equality in the South.

      3.) The Northern states repealed their anti-miscegenation laws and integrated between 1865 and 1890. Jews were arriving on American shores in large numbers in the 1890s and 1900s. The ADL was founded in 1913. The American Jewish Congress was founded in 1918. The American Jewish Committee was founded in 1906.

      4.) From 1900 to 1940, Northern racial attitudes hardened and enforcement of the “civil rights” laws declined. The White House and the federal government were resegregated under Woodrow Wilson. The Second Klan became a mass movement. Eugenics thrived and sterilization laws proliferated in the United States. The Immigration Act of 1924 even restricted Jewish immigration.

      5.) It was the Second World War which decisively changed public opinion on race in the North between 1938 and 1945. The Cold War struggle to spread “democracy” to the ends of the earth opened the door to new “civil rights” laws at home.

      6.) Just as the war against the Confederacy led to Reconstruction, the war against Hitler’s Germany led to the Second Reconstruction. The fact is, the “Civil Rights Movement” would have never gone anywhere – like it went nowhere until 1940 – if Northern public opinion on race hadn’t undergone such a dramatic shift during the Second World War.

  17. @Jeppo

    Without Roman Catholic political support in the House, and even more so in the Senate the Jews would be powerless.

  18. Without Roman Catholic political support in the House, and even more so in the Senate the Jews would be powerless.

    That’s exactly backwards. If it wasn’t for their millions of (Protestant) Christian Zionist goyischekopf foot soldiers, the Jews would be far less powerful. And the same goes for their bought-and-paid-for (Protestant) political toadies like John McCain and Lindsey Graham.

  19. Earl Butz says:

    ‘Without Roman Catholic political support in the House, and even more so in the Senate the Jews would be powerless.’

    Earl, the head honcho in the Vatican has spoken. Shudduppa yo face about the jews!

    True Christians ‘cannot be anti-Semitic,’ Pope Francis tells Jewish leaders
    Pope Francis meets international Jewish community leaders at the Vatican, condemns anti-Semitism.

    http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.531837

    Pope Francis condemned anti-Semitism during a meeting with representatives of the international Jewish community at the Vatican.

    “Because of our commons roots, a true Christian cannot be anti-Semitic,” Francis said Monday at a meeting with a delegation of the International Jewish Committee on Interreligious Consultations, or IJCIC.

    He added that the Catholic Church “firmly condemns hatred, persecution and all manifestations of anti-Semitism.” (snip)

    The declaration stresses the religious bond shared by Jews and Catholics, reaffirms the eternal covenant between God and the Jewish people,

    and calls for a halt to attempts to convert Jews.

    “Pope Francis is a very good friend of the Jewish people and we rejoice in the fact that he will continue to advance the path of his predecessors in deepening the Catholic-Jewish relationship even further,” said Rabbi David Rosen, the American Jewish Committee’s director of international interreligious affairs.

    Representatives of the Rabbinical Assembly, the international association of Conservative rabbis, and the World Jewish Congress also were in attendance.

  20. @Lew

    The Jews do have a lot of ownership and influence in the national media. It’s media & money that helps them buy Catholic support.

    @Jeppo If you look at the votes in the US Senate you will always see the Catholics and the Jews voting as a block of about 40 votes give or take a few votes. It’s a fact.

    The opposition to the Jew-Catholic alliance comes from Southern & Western Protestants.

    Now it is true that guys like John Insane McCain, and Lindsay Limp Wrist Graham are total sellouts to the Jew & Catholic Alliance.

  21. Hunter, who will provide the hardcore opposition and financing to prevent Southern Nationalists from dissolving the union again, assuming your movement ever becomes a threat?

    I am asking about the present correlation of forces and the likely future ones, but every time I do that, people retreat into the past.

    The past throws light on the present, of course, but the problem with the past is that it is fixed and immutable. You can’t change it. You can’t act against it. We can act only in the present. Only the future can be changed.

    Who are the present and future enemies of Southern Nationalism? And I don’t mean the weak and flabby periphery. I mean the hard core that will rally the rest.

    You won’t win tomorrow’s battles by verbally re-fighting yesterday’s battles. Of course 19th-century liberals can’t fight back, so I understand the appeal of attacking them rather than the existing enemies of our race.

    • Re: Greg

      The book is about the Civil Rights Movement in the North. We’re talking about the past here.

      BTW, I didn’t buy the book with Southern Nationalism in mind. It just looked like an interesting book which I hadn’t heard of before. I’ve tried to research the rise and fall of the North’s racial system several times here in the past, but have always gotten sidetracked.

      The present and the future is a different subject.

  22. Greg J, I agreed we can not bring back the past, but modern versions of past societies, past political systems are very possible.

    Russia should be our model.

    Though Vladimir Putin isn’t officially “The Czar”, for all intents and purposes he behaves the sae way and regular Russians love it.

    Russia is once again, highly nationalistic, keeps the Jews out of poltical, economic and cultural positions, pursues an independent Pro Russian foreign policy, uses secret service, military to hunt down and kill open enemies of Russia.

    And Russia takes a firm line on queers, lefty punk rock bands like “Pussy Riot”.

    What’s not to like?

  23. Don’t let the election today distract you ‘all’ from awareness of Papist conspiracy to deprive us of our liberties. Remember, remember, The Fifth of November!
    Light a FIRE tonight!

  24. In continuing to intrepidly pierce history’s shroud, we’ll eventually locate the proper sect of white 18th century agrarian communalists against whom we may launch our cultural counterattack. I pray their bulwarks are lightly manned.

    Yet if only there were respiring creatures with circulating blood who were attacking and undermining us. If only these beings had their own living interests and agency. If only we could identify who is harming us now. Alas, the effort is futile. Our antagonists are long dead and quite beyond reach.

    Which leaves only one logical query: which dead whites should we fight the hardest?

  25. @ Mosin’s, “Northwestern European PROTESTANTS” —“NW euro non-catholic, non-jews” very nice to see since it undermines that ugly “Wasp” HATE WORD they have used for so long, employed even on this thread.

    And watch that MEME about the “American and French Revolutions are exactly the same and run by commie jews.”

    THAT IS NOT TRUE. And many are trying to disseminate it for pretty dubious ends, really transparent. Ditching the constitution (a fine document in many respects) and replacing it with things s/a the Declaration and other fundraising propaganda pieces of YESTERYEAR. They even did it during the election until whatshisface was sworn in on the pergamom altar.

    In the article, why does no one point out that the Northeast by the World Wars was just full of refugees, both jews and catholics (who are all now—two steps off the boat– on t.v. being “stars,” which they never could have become back in the old country)

    I even read that, around that time, (the interwar period) Columbia University actually had a SCHOLARSHIP for preppie wasps (northwest euro prods)!!! So many of them had bolted during the Frankfurt School immigration that Columbia wanted to try to get them back, no kidding.

    Funny to think of now, NYC trolling to try to capture Wasps to move BACK there!

    As I often mention, the descendents of the founders in that city are now FOUR percent. Yes, 4%. Generational Americans have not been near the NE for years (altho maybe in vermont…)

  26. Hunter, I’m changing the subject. Because as diverting as the past is, one can’t refight its battles. Southern Nationalists need to ask themselves if anything has changed from the 19th century. Who will provide the hardcore opposition and funding against Southern Nationalism in the 21st century? Not 19th-century egalitarians, surely.

  27. The Whites in the South made an alliance with the Jews to wreck Germany and the rest of Europe, the Jews stabbed the Southerners in the back and sicced the niggers on you , anybody can be taken in by a con man but after seventy years you should realize you were taken and not still think Hymie is a harmless little dweeb.

  28. Re: Greg Johnson

    1.) Obviously, a lot has changed since the 19th century. For starters, we were better off in the 19th century, even during the lowest ebb of Reconstruction it wasn’t nearly this bad.

    2.) 20th and 21st century egalitarians have outdone their predecessors. The American electorate is now majority non-White and female.

    3.) Who is going to oppose us in the 21st century? Where should we start?

    There’s the leftwing fringe groups, the taboo enforcers like the ADL and SPLC, the hostile mainstream media, the business interests that want cheap labor, Organized Jewry, Organized Blackness, Big Religion and its refugee programs, the “respectable” conservatives, and the Northern-controlled federal government.

    Of the aforementioned groups, the SPLC and ADL and leftwing fringe groups are our most dedicated opponents.

  29. Each year, these wise words of George Washington are read in public ceremony: ‘May the Children of the Stock of Abraham, who dwell in this land, continue to merit and enjoy THE GOOD WILL OF THE OTHER INHABITANTS; while every one shall sit under his own vine and fig tree, AND THERE SHALL BE NONE TO MAKE HIM AFRAID’. He also condemned and prevented his army from celebrating ‘that ridiculous and childish custom of burning the Effigy of the Pope’, which is ‘monstrous’ and ‘insulting their religion’.

  30. And your objection to Washington condemning ‘that ridiculous and childish custom of burning the Effigy of the Pope’, which is’ monstrous’ and ‘insulting their religion’. is…? BTW, you are aware that France, a Catholic nation, was on our side during the Revolutionary war, aren’t you? Thank God, George had enough common sense to nip this hateful custom in the bud before it became ingrained in the American psyche.

  31. Mosin Nagant says:

    ‘Each year, these wise words of George Washington are read in public ceremony: ‘May the Children of the Stock of Abraham, who dwell in this land, continue to merit and enjoy THE GOOD WILL OF THE OTHER INHABITANTS; while every one shall sit under his own vine and fig tree, AND THERE SHALL BE NONE TO MAKE HIM AFRAID’.

    Too bad George didn’t have a crystal ball to peer into the future. I’m sure he would have cursed those traitorous, treacherous rats if he saw this country as it is today.

  32. Is this a ‘land of liberty’ belonging to a truly free and self-determining white ethny, or is this a land of enslavement belonging to wealthy, semi-secret, global organisations?

  33. Regular communal ‘Pope Nights’, burning effigies of worst enemies every year, may have been good preparation for ‘real world action’ in the Revolution — reminiscent of cross burning that was popular almost everywhere in the early twentieth century, which were calls to action.

  34. Jews will call you an anti-Semite and ruin you, but you fine lads wish to lose yourself by tailgating details as you obsess over jews,

    The phrase is “anti-white” use it, don’t worry about not getting a Smart Badge for not writing an essay on some detail, be effective instead.

  35. Lew,

    Such dishonesty. Frustrating.

    If it makes you feel better, I find your dismissiveness and unresponsiveness just as frustrating, I can assure you. Well, I guess race is just that kind of an issue, it’s vexing stuff. Wish it wasn’t, but then again I wish a whole of other things too.

  36. Silver,

    You quoted Pulaski out of context. He devoted about half that comment to discussing factors other than Jewish influence that matter or have mattered. Therefore, for this reason, I don’t think it’s fair to represent Clement as one who puts it all on the Jews, much less one that fits smear-artist Stephen Dalton’s caricatures.

    I have to give you credit though. You and Chechar are the only ones who have ever answered my challenge to prove with citations or textual evidence that anyone of significance in the worldwide nationalist community puts it all on the Jews. The best you’ve both been able to do is point to people who you perceive do that based on your own arbitrary subjective opinions but never with hard textual evidence.

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