This Wasn’t the Year… Not for the Chicago Cubs, Not For Ron Paul or Any Libertarian Presidential Candidates

Wait Until Next Year... the Cubs and Libertarians Will Not Give Up

Chicago, IL – it’s late August here in Chicago. The Chicago Cubs are 31 games under .500, 29 1/2 games out of first place. Even dire hard Chicago Cub fans have sadly, come to the realization that….

This wasn’t the year.

The last time the Chicago Cubs won any baseball championship was 1945 – the year we dropped the A bomb on Japan; all of the able bodied, young American men were in military uniforms, not in Chicago Cubs uniforms. It was a 4F, old men season, maybe there will be another one… next year. There’s always next year for Cubs fans.

In a similar vein, this was not the year that Ron Paul or any other Liberatrian, economic conservative broke through and was elected President of the United States – Ron Paul will not be ending the welfare state, reversing the Great Society, the New Deal, ending Medicaid and Social Security, privatizing the entire US public school system, enacting right to work laws in all 50 states, breaking the Teamsters Union, the UAW, the United Mine Workers Union and allowing “American” businesses to hire and fire whoever they want, with wages determined by “free markets”, and the American labor force opened up to 2 billion 3rd world workers, under Libertarian free market principles of open borders immigration.

Ron Paul and his never say die Libertarian supporters made a valiant effort to reach out to Blacks, Hispanics, even Muslim immigrants associated with Al Qaeda 9-11-01 terrorists. Ron Paul was the only GOP presidential candidate to back the Ground Zero Mosque and explain that the 9-11-01 mass murder of our people was an understandable Islamic response to the USA’s mistreatment of the Palestinians and the US having military bases in Saudi Arabia.

All of Ron Paul’s outreach/pandering to Muslim immigrants didn’t result in winning Ron Paul the nomination. Neither did Ron Paul’s pledge to set free all Black African Americans in prison for trafficking in hard drugs like crack cocaine and heroin. Ron Paul and other Libertarian economic Conservatives were polling less than 1 percent amongst Black voters… maybe these Black voters haven’t read enough Austrian free market economics books… or maybe they don’t read any books.

Yeah, this wasn’t the year for Libertarian, economic conservative Presidential candidates or the Chicago Cubs.

American nationalist leader George Rockwell stated in 1966 that Libertarian/economic conservative Presidential candidates were doomed to fail. After the ’64 Goldwater debacle, Rockwell stated with 100 percent assurance that no Libertarian economic conservative Presidential candidate would ever win the support of poor and working class White voters.

But, 45 years later we’ve had to suffer the failures of Jack Kemp, Phil Graham, Steve Forbes, Ron Paul and other Libertarian Party Presidential candidates that no one can remember.

Who ran as the Libertarian Presidential candidate in 1992? Who was the second string catcher for the 1977 Chicago Cubs? Who cares?

No this wasn’t the year for the Chicago Cubs or Libertarian, economic conservative Preidential candidates.

Oh well, there’s always next year. This is for sure….. they’ll be back.

50 Comments

  1. “If you are feeling brave, or really, really stupid go argue this position in some Irish American bar in Queens New York City, talk with some Irish American NYFD, or the widows and orphans of those brave Irish American NYFD martyred on 9-11-01.”

    Absurdity. Like: Jack go argue for white racialism in…and I’ll preach at yours.

  2. September 11 should be the day to expose the hell on Earth, 9/11 and otherwise, we created by letting all these weirdo non-whites legally immigrate into the United States. That would be the message I’d preach on 9/11 if I didn’t think that preaching politics on 9/11 was inappropriate and an affront to the victims.

  3. “Unfortunately, I don’t speak Chinese.”

    What, you complaining? The Chinese will work cheaper, longer hours and for less benefits. Libertarianism in action. Probably saving the owners a mint. With even less regulation and knowing for sure there is no government laws to worry about, you can rally clean up if you are a business owner.

  4. Brutus:

    Half of all white people have IQs under 100. There are too few white people left in this world as it is, without practically liquidating half of us or consigning them to sub-peasant status. The building that I work in got built with the help of a lot of white people who have IQs under 100. The roads I drive on to get back and forth to and from said building were built by a lot of white people with IQs under 100.

    As an article of faith, I believe in the divinity of a man who once said that the way we treat the least among us is the way we treat Him.

  5. Brutus:

    Actually, that’s free trade in action. Most libertarians are for free trade, but as we can see, you don’t have to be a libertarian to force free trade on us. Free trade, open borders and world government are all interrelated. When you enact one, you will inevitably receive pressure on your body politic to enact the other two. Believe me, there will be no libertarianism possible under a world government.

  6. By definition half your people will be below average. What multiracial society does is bottom load society with complete spanners. A homogenous white society can care for its less than gifted. A multiracial state? It will annhilate the salt of the earth white.

  7. Chris is right. I was thinking a 7th round TKO, but that was when Joe opened the nasty cut over Jones’ eye and in essence it was over. Listen to the frustration in Jones’ words at 32:12. “I try to get him, but I can’t get him.”

    It’s a Friday night. May as well watch the entire fight. Joe does some show boating of which I’ve never been a fan BUT he is just giving Jones (King of Showboats) some of his own medicine.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TdBoXJgysk&feature=related

    Max Kellerman (jew) was beside himself witnessing the spectacle. Tried to diminish Joe in every way. The two other analysts were praising him vociferously.

    Caste football has a discussion board where all the action is up to date on current sports activities.

    Calzaghe is Italian and Welsh.

  8. “As an article of faith, I believe in the divinity of a man who once said that the way we treat the least among us is the way we treat Him.”

    Not the words of an unbeliever. Thanks, Countenance.

  9. Sam: Do some travelling. Start with Texas. I live in Granbury most of the time, so I see things. Try to find a White crew to roof a house or build a pipe fence out in that cruel Texas sunshine. Then go to a machine shop. See who is doing all of the low-skill jobs like cleaning machines, sawing, loading, unloading and sweeping so that the aging, hard-to-find machinists can concentrate on creating a marketable product.

    Then go to western Kansas. I own a piece of property in Hoxie and I have had many opportunities to observe what is going on in the area. Nearly all of the young folks are gone and they won’t be coming back except maybe occasionally on Thanksgiving or Christmas. Almost all of the farmers are well past retirement age. The kids are all off someplace else, hanging out with pole smokers in investment clubs or something, so the old guys have to hire the only guys around who are willing and able to do the work.

    Next check out Kentucky. I own a house on ten acres in Edmonton. I let retired relatives live in the house. The economy in that general area is in bad shape. Most of the manufacturing is gone. The farmers can’t make much off tobacco anymore because the local White folks would rather drive up to two hours each way to work in Louisville or Bowling Green than hang around town all year waiting for an opportunity to work a couple of months planting or getting in tobacco or corn. Folks got hard on the illegals after one particularly gruesome head on collision caused by one of them. They now avoid this area and a lot of the fields lay idle.

    There is politics and opinions, and there is practicality and common sense.

    It doesn’t matter how long you’ve heard that argument or how many illegals are in American prisons and welfare rolls or how many Libertarian queers you chose to rub elbows with. What matters is that in a society in which the locals rule their localities, you wouldn’t have to tolerate criminal illegals, welfare bums or queers of any political stripe.

    That is a reality that deserves and experiment. If this puddle of political shit we are in right now deserved a shot, then true libertarianism definitely deserves one.

  10. Mosin Nagant:

    Jesus Christ was a carpenter. His first dozen disciples were fishermen. In today’s parlance, working middle class white people. Precisely the kind of people we’re talking about.

  11. “Try to find a White crew to roof a house or build a pipe fence out in that cruel Texas sunshine for less then eight bucks an hour.”

    I finished your sentence. You forgot the last part; the last seven words. It is often easy to forget the most crucial part of a sentence.

    And it is hard to find a crew of white people to work construction for low wages, no overtime, and no benefits but workers comp. Myself, I can’t hardly wait until I’m 77 and have to go to work singling a roof or cutting bed-edge for as low a wage as possible.

  12. Yes Sam – Joe Calzaghe is Italian and Welsh… got to love that.

    I agree that Max the obnoxious Jew Kellerman was hideous on commenting on this Calzaghe vs Jones fight. Jones won the first two rounds, even had Calzaghe down in the first round, then Calzaghe overwhelmed Jones for the next 13 rounds.

    I earned some respect at Joe’s Sports bar in Chicago promoting Joe Calzaghe as the greatest White boxer in post World War II history and he came through big time that night.

  13. countenance says:
    September 1, 2012 at 1:54 am (Edit)
    Mosin Nagant:

    “Jesus Christ was a carpenter. ”

    Jack Ryan replies:

    You’ve heard this one:

    1st guy:

    “I follow the son of a Jewish carpenter.”

    2nd guy:

    “I follow an Austrian painter”

  14. Folks, according to the findings of Dr. Rushton, whom we all love to quote when we are talking about dumb niggers, the least intelligent 65% of White Americans have an average IQ of 92.5. The other 35% have an average IQ of 113, just like those goddamn Ashkenazi Jews.

    The dumb Whites have the smart Whites outnumbered nearly two to one. They outvote us at the polls and the food store. That’s why we have a nigger in the White House and shelf after shelf full of overpriced, over-processed shit at the supermarket.

  15. The “conservative” Brutus jests poorly: “Vote Libertarian! Ron Paul 2024!”
    Keep voting for more and more welfare and warfare.

    Ron Paul may not be living in 2024, but you will be dismayed by the appearance of another, similar opponent.

  16. “See who is doing all of the low-skill jobs like cleaning machines, sawing, loading, unloading and sweeping so that the aging, hard-to-find machinists can concentrate on creating a marketable product.” – They are hispanic adults. young hispanics are neck and neck with young blacks for the coveted title of most unemployed due a variety of factors including immigration obliterating youth employment and social networks.

  17. A techne.

    A construction worker, with multiple skills. I wondered if he built projects in the Roman cities that were sprouting up all over Galilee.

  18. “The dumb Whites have the smart Whites outnumbered nearly two to one. They outvote us at the polls and the food store. That’s why we have a nigger in the White House and shelf after shelf full of overpriced, over-processed shit at the supermarket.”

    Injustice, shoddy goods, etc. — all caused by the IQ of whites? Not by their IMMORALITY?

  19. Brutus: Here are the rest of the words. Try to find a White crew to weld a pipe fence or roof a house for ANY WAGE in Texas. Try to hire White field hands for ANY WAGE in western Kansas. It’s seasonal work that used to be done by farmers and their kids. Now it is done by old farmers who hire migrant workers who come around when you need them and go away when you don’t.

    Seasonal farm work has been done by migrant workers as far back as I can remember. Mexicans harvested and processed all of the vegetables and fruits in Michigan when I was a kid. It was that way long before you woke up because a nigger was in the White House.

    All I know about the impact on the construction trades that I know about I learned in Macon, GA. The niggers either wouldn’t or couldn’t do much of it; the Whites would do the work, but sucked at it; and the Mexicans sucked at it too, but they worked badly for a lower wage than the dullard Whites were willing to fuck things up for.

    Maybe if those semi-skilled Whites had been able to do a better job than the illegals were capable of doing then they could have still been competitive in the labor market.

  20. Brutus,

    You’re caricaturing libertarianism. You have had it explained to you very clearly, multiple times, that there are different forms of libertarianism, different factions within the libertarian movement, and more to it than economics and eliminating the social safety net. A white working class person might be happy to do without a social safety net if return he could live in all white local community where whites aren’t taxed to death to subsidize nigs, and where his kids will never have to worry about being jumped by nig flash mobs . You’re not acknowledging distinctions and nuance. I see no reason to continue to dialog with you. I will say nor more so as not encourage you to comment further.

  21. Jack Ryan says:
    Jack Ryan wrote: “Sept. 11 th is not the day to try to lecture White Americans that we need to understand the Arab Muslim’s just opposition with American foreign policies….”

    Mosin replies: To the contrary, it is the best possible day for Ron
    Paul or anyone to speak the truth on those unjust wars.”

    Mosin, I believe Jack is correct. Sept. 11 is like a Holy Day to most Americans. A religious like fervor overwhelms their sensibilities. They will be hostile and not receptive to your message. It would be wiser to wait for a better opportunity if you wish to discuss the subject. I know for a fact some members of my family would go postal on you.

  22. Here is a libertarian argument against immigration and for secession. The argument is made within a theoretical frame that relies on free association and property rights. Here is the pull quote if you don’t have time for the entire article:

    The current situation in the United States and in Western Europe has nothing whatsoever to do with “free” immigration. It is forced integration, plain and simple, and forced integration is the predictable outcome of democratic – one-man-one-vote – rule. Abolishing forced integration requires a de-democratization of society, and ultimately the abolition of democracy. More specifically, the authority to admit or exclude should be stripped from the hands of the central government and re-assigned to the states, provinces, cities, towns, villages, residential districts, and ultimately to private property owners and their voluntary associations. The means to achieve this goal are decentralization and secession (both inherently un-democratic, and un-majoritarian). One would be well on the way toward a restoration of the freedom of association and exclusion as it is implied in the idea and institution of private property, and much of the social strife currently caused by forced integration would disappear, if only towns and villages could and would do what they did as a matter of course until well into the nineteenth century in Europe and the United States: to post signs regarding entrance requirements to the town, and once in town for entering specific pieces of property (no beggars or bums or homeless, but also no Moslems, Hindus, Jews, Catholics, etc.); to kick out those who do not fulfill these requirements as trespassers; and to solve the “naturalization” question somewhat along the Swiss model, where local assemblies, not the central government, determine who can and who cannot become a Swiss citizen.

    Certain (not all) formulations of libertarian theory potentially have a lot to offer white dissidents, especially secession-oriented dissidents. This theoretical justification is one example.

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/hermann-hoppe1.html

  23. Mosin Nagant: I would bet that if I looked back through your comments on this site I would eventually find that you at least once stated that niggers are incapable of building or maintaining a thriving, moral society because of their low IQ’s.

    Go to certain parts of Appalachia and you will find entire regions where the Whites are as dumb as niggers. Their mean IQ is not 100. They are like those Bushmen in Africa who have a mean IQ of 50, even though the rest of of the sub-Saharan Africans have that big 70 IQ.

    Those dumb Whites do everything that niggers do. They have low impulse control. They shoot each other on a daily basis. They love dope and booze. They fuck anybody they can outrun.

    You can’t fix those lower caste Whites by teaching them morals any more than you can fix niggers with those efforts. IQ seals the deal.

  24. Anon: The Mexicans I see working every day here in Texas, doing shit I don’t ever want to do, range in age from older teens to geezers. I saw a good age spread in Kansas, too, but there weren’t nearly as many on the geezer end of the scale.

  25. This whole thread is hilarious, as if we are going to have a political solution. Personally I think libertarians will never get many White votes because they are wrong on the cultural issues many Whites hold dearest. Right now Whites want to persevere our ways more than anything (expect perhaps being magically transformed to 1955 with all our modern technology intact shoved into those beautiful automobiles) and that does include social security, the military and our national borders. Sam sums it well with
    “Not a damn thing about racial consciousness, brotherhood and solidarity. That to me is the biggest drawback of Libertarianism.”

    As for reading between the lines… to hell with that. A man should say what he means and mean what he says. Brutus, you magnificent yankee bastard, you’re on your game today but you really nailed it with:

    “I don’t think I’m delusional about anything. I think a man who actually stood up and said many of the things we talk about here, and did not apologize or use weasel words and actually advocated a pro white message, would be elected in a landslide.”
    Brutus

    And a display of strength and I don’t give a damn attitude like that would pull a lot of women voters too.

    Another fallacy is the notion Paul or whoever would get what they want on all issues. Paul or whoever would still have to have congress and the senate go along. The way I see it is, Paul would get all the stuff we don’t like passed because he would get support from democrats and the usual liberal republican party. Like negros released from jail, as if we need is more feral negros, open borders, a gutted military etc. Paul would get none of the small govt things we’d like because there would be no support for it from either party

    I also think most White folks feel libertarians would let negros run amuck but would shit bricks if Whites started putting negros in check, trying to disenfranchise negros, barring them from your place of business etc. Maybe a libertarian govt would allow those things to slide, but folks doubt it because all libertarians that have any voice/ air time seem pretty far removed from race realism

    “By definition half your people will be below average. What multiracial society does is bottom load society with complete spanners. A homogenous white society can care for its less than gifted. A multiracial state? It will annhilate the salt of the earth white.” John

    Quoted for truth. It is in my opinion one of the worst things about diversity

  26. “It will be a different Holy Day for them when they are enlightened of the truth of it.”

    MN,

    Gulags never do see the truth. Nor do they want to. Stopping the government handouts will get more of a reaction…

  27. “Personally I think libertarians will never get many White votes because they are wrong on the cultural issues many Whites hold dearest.”

    And, what are those cultural issues? Maintaining the nation with European and Christian morality and customs? A society free of corruption? Most Americans would sell their first born to stop the end of Medicare and Social Security. A few might have cultural issues they hold dear, but the majority – NOPE!

    Again, Democrats and Republicans brought us to this hellhole and yet Libertarians are the problem. Huh? Whites are almost as bad as minorities when it come to government handouts. Over 50% of the US population is on some form of government welfare. Nothing will change until the people change.

  28. Stonelifter: Try to get elected by saying, “After we dismantle the central government, you will be able to treat niggers and illegal aliens any way you want to.”

    That wouldn’t fly worth a shit.

    So what you have to do is tell folks that you won’t have an oversize central government to micromanage every detail of their lives. The smart ones will understand that it was the oversize central government that shoved niggers and illegals down our throats, so without an oversize central government that bullshit will stop.

    The dumb ones will say, “Duh, federal court, duh, get in trouble, duh, no army, duh.”

  29. Playing Roots Backwards says:

    ‘It doesn’t matter how long you’ve heard that argument or how many illegals are in American prisons and welfare rolls or how many Libertarian queers you chose to rub elbows with.’

    Libertarian queers I chose to rub elbows with? What the? I think you’re referring to the pipe smokers comment. Picture Gen. Mc Arthur and Popeye. Common sight years ago.

  30. Many good comments.

    But too many OD readers are getting away from the main point of this post:

    Chicago Cubs fans and Libertarians embracing losing.

    Here’s the great Chicago folk song singer writer Steve Goodman lamenting the Chicago Cub’s proud/sad history of losing year after year after year…. after year after year

  31. No PBR, what folks can pick up on, their straight up message is more or less negros etc get to run amuck, and that you could bar negros from your rental properties or place of business doesn’t come across at all. I…. think most folks who commented on this here thread can’t imagine how sick of politics and having to read between the line the typical voter is because they themselves are into politics. And playing to the smart voters is a waste, “dumb” voters outnumber them 2 to 1, or more.

    and Snowwhitey, your argument holds no water because very few here praise either the dnc or gop. I certainly never do

  32. Sam: Oh, that kind of pipe. That paints an entirely different picture of your investment club.

    You’ve gotta be careful with that pipe smoker talk. It has taken on an entirely different meaning since the days when a humidor was a common site in a home.

    I was thinking that those folks must’ve had some awfully good stock advice for you to continue going to those meetings.

  33. “By the shore’s of old Lake Michigan
    Where the “hawk wind” blows so cold
    An old Cub fan lay dying
    In his midnight hour that tolled
    ‘Round his bed, his friends had all gathered
    They knew his time was short
    And on his head the put this bright blue cap
    From his all-time favorite sport
    He told them “its late and its getting dark in here”
    And I know it’s time to go
    But before I leave the line-up
    There’s just one thing I’d like to know
    (Chorus, sung)
    Do they still play the blues in Chicago
    When baseball season rolls around
    When the snow melts away,
    Do the Cubbies still play
    In their ivy covered burial ground
    When I was a boy they were my pride and joy
    But now they only bring fatigue
    To the home of the brave
    The land of the free
    And the doormat of the national league
    (talking blues)
    Told his friends “You know the law of averages says:
    Anything will happen that can.”
    That’s what it says.
    “But the year the Cubs last won a national league pennant
    Was the year we dropped the bomb on Japan”
    The Cubs made me a criminal
    Sent me down a wayward path
    They stole my youth from me
    (that’s the truth)
    I’d forsake my teacher’s
    To go sit in the bleachers
    In flagrant truancy
    and then one thing led to another
    soon I’d discovered alcohol, gambling, dope
    football, hockey, lacross, tennis
    But what do you expect,
    When you raise up a young boys hope
    And then just crush ’em like so many paper beer cups.
    Year after year after year
    after year, after year, after year, after year, after year
    ‘Til those hopes are just so much popcorn
    for pigeons beneath the “EL” track to eat
    He said “You know I’ll never see Wrigley Field, anymore
    before my eternal rest
    So if you have your pencils and your score cards ready,
    and I’ll read you my last request
    Give me a double header funeral in Wrigley Field
    On some sunny weekend day (no lights)
    Have the organ play the National Anthem
    and then a little “na, na, na, hey hey, hey, Goodbye”
    Make six bull pen pitchers, carry my coffin
    and six ground keepers clear my path
    Have the umpires bark me out at every base
    In all their holy wrath
    Its a beautiful day for a funeral, Hey Ernie lets play two!
    Somebody go get Jack Brickhouse to come back,
    and conduct just one more interview
    Have the Cubbies run right out into the middle of the field,
    Have Keith Moreland drop a routine fly
    Give everybody two bags of peanuts and a frosty malt
    And I’ll be ready to die
    Build a big fire on home plate out of your ‘Louisville Sluggers’ baseball bats,
    And toss my coffin in
    Let my ashes blow in the beautiful snow
    From the prevailing 30 mile an hour south west wind
    When my last remains go flying over the left field wall
    Will bid the bleacher bums adieu
    I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue
    The dying man’s friends told him to cut it out
    They said stop it that’s an awful shame
    He whispered, “Don’t Cry, we’ll meet by and by near the Heavenly Hall of Fame
    He said I’ve got season’s tickets to watch the Angels now,
    So its just what I’m going to do
    He said but you the living, you’re stuck here with the Cubs,
    So its me that feels sorry for you!
    And he said “Ahh Play, play that lonesome losers tune,
    The one I like the best
    And he closed his eyes, and slipped away
    What we got is the Dying Cub fan’s last request
    (Chorus, big finish, sung)
    Do they still play the blues in Chicago
    When baseball season rolls around
    When the snow melts away,
    Do the Cubbies still play
    In their ivy covered burial ground
    When I was a boy they were my pride and joy
    But now they only bring fatigue
    To the home of the brave
    The land of the free
    And the doormat of the national league

  34. Stonelifter: You are absolutely correct in saying that it is a waste of time to play to the outnumbered smart voters. I was just telling somebody else on here how dumb most people are. I even pointed out that it is the dumb folks who run shit due to their sheer numbers. I’ve known that for years, but I somehow failed to actually understand what I new.

    Hell. I don’t know what to say to dumb folks. We may be more fucked than I previously realized.

  35. Lots of high IQ whites have come from median orbiting parents. The white bell curve is nice, high, and tight. This is why all-white and mostly-white areas are all arguably pleasant places to live, regardless of their politics.

    Jack Ryan, this is one of your best posts yet. I really enjoyed reading it, even though I voted for the little Texan.

  36. PRB,

    Welfare for dumb, poor whites ensures those jobs go to illegals. Oh, and we also aborted a lot of the low iq dipshits who might do those jobs thankfully. So we replaced our own dummies with alien dummies who contribute to the general decay. Social Marxism has been a real son of a bitch, hasn’t it?

  37. Stonelifter,

    It does. Most people on this site say they will vote for Romney yet he will do the same things Libertarians are being attacked over. People say they wouldn’t vote for Paul because he’s soft on immigration yet voted for Republicans (Reagan, Bush Sr., Bush Jr) who flooded this nation with Third Worlders. That’s my point.

  38. Well PBR there is dumb and then there is dumb, most folks aren’t dumb they are mentally lazy. Then there are a lot of White folks like myself of average brain power (IQ 106) who are cynical on politics across the board. They/ we/ me simply don’t trust anyone or anything I have to read between the lines on. Not stating your position clearly is to womanish in nature for me to respect. Or trust. My gut tells me, that is the instant, unthinking gut reaction of the vast majority of 100 IQ but mentally lazy White men and libertarians lay their message out in such a way it appeals mostly to intellectuals. Maybe they’d do better if they said something like ” you know what, I trust you to own a machine gun, smoke dope and run your life as you see fit; the other guys think your too dumb and violent to trust”.

    I have my own issues with libertarianism which boils down to, I don’t see it it playing out like folks think because we are no longer the same nation or people as 1850 or even 1950, but that doesn’t play into why libertarianism is rejected whole sale. Leastwise I don’t think so

    One thing I cannot see libertarians allowing us to do is limit who gets to vote. Which I think is reason number one we are in such a mess. Political reason number one that is. At one point, to vote in NC you had to be a White man over 25 ( I think), who was a member in good standing of his local church, part of the organized or unorganized militia and own property worth 300 pounds silver free and clear of debt. 25 was a man of middle years back then, and probably well into his adult maturity and wisdom, back in a time where folks put stock into such things. With the vote limited to such men and strict immigration control I think libertarianism would probably work ok, but in the here and now….. not so much. We were on this path of destruction once the idea of universal suffrage caught wind. And it wouldn’t be libertarianism with such tweaks, would it?

    Well then Snowwhitey you made a very good point and I stand corrected. Apologies for the miss understanding

  39. I always thought that the main idea behind libertarianism was that there should be no laws unduly restricting capitalist acts between consenting adults, ie. free enterprise. But after seeing all the nonsense in this thread purporting to be what Libertarianism with a capital “L” is all about I guess I was wrong about that.

    I registered Republican right before the primary so that I could vote for Ron Paul because he was the only candidate who was against both of our foreign wars which are bankrupting the country and killing and maiming our young men for no good reason. I’ll vote for a third party candidate in the general election, as I have regularly for years, just in order to piss people off.

  40. So is it official, YET?

    Can we FINALLY stop hearing the whomp whomp lockstep drumbeat of the Ronulans until…

    2015?

  41. God, what better argument for separation can be made than the example of Jack? Poems for the Chicago Cubs is what his society is all about.

  42. “Can we FINALLY stop hearing the whomp whomp lockstep drumbeat of the Ronulans until…”

    NO! The presidential election cycle never ends now. It just goes on and on and on and on ad infinitum… Just you wait, it won’t be long before we hear nothing besides all about Hillary’s 2016 campaign for the next four years.

  43. I doubt Hilary will run. Deep down in her twisted little heart she knows no one will vote for an old, ugly fat chick with a bitch attitude

  44. I doubt Hilary will run. Deep down in her twisted little heart she knows no one will vote for an old, ugly fat chick with a bitch attitude

    Are you kidding? She’ll be “better than Barack Obama!”

    You stupid Republitards.

  45. Are you kidding? She’ll be “better than Barack Obama!”

    You stupid Republitards.
    Bill Yancey

    Well played sir, well played

  46. @Bill Yancey

    Romney’s going win the election, and the South will never rise again.

    You stupid Confederatard.

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