I rarely feed the trolls but this little turd dropped in the comments is an opportunity to highlight the differences between White Nationalism and Southern Nationalism:
“I’m a regular commentator on The Political Cesspool, where I go by the same pseudonym and have made hundreds of comments. You have the Political Cesspool listed on your blog roll, so i would hope you don’t think of it as a “Rainbow Confederate” group.”
I know James Edwards. He is a proud Southerner. He is also a supporter of the Confederacy. If memory serves, The Political Cesspool also celebrated Confederate History Month 2012 (Edwards is a fan of Nathan Bedford Forrest), so I doubt your little rant in the comments speaks for his views on this subject.
“I’ll just cut straight to the chase: You’re an ungodly disgrace. The so-called “white nationalism” that you stand for is anti-white in every sense of the word, and your so-called “solutions” would surely result in the same totalitarian police state that the Marxists on the left seek to impose.”
I quit the White Nationalist movement two years ago:
(1) First, the “White Republic” that the White Nationalists want to create is a proposition nation created by intellectuals. It is not a real nation like Dixie or Quebec. It is a pure abstraction for alienated people that exists only in the minds of intellectuals and people on the internet.
(2) Second, because the “White Republic” is a proposition nation that includes “all White people,” White Nationalists themselves have no idea where the “White Republic” is to be located, and for that reason the whole project remains nothing more than a fantasy (a nationalist version of White flight) which has none of the appeal of European-style ethnonationalism.
(3) Third, we have already tried to build a nation on “whiteness,” the United States of America. The project was a failure because of ethnic and religious differences between White people and specifically because of the tendency of certain “White” groups (i.e., Yankees and Jews) to politically align themselves with blacks and Hispanics to gain an electoral advantage over Southerners in the Union.
(4) Fourth, the existence of the Glorious Union is why we have virtually everything that we resent about the United States in the South: the 14th Amendment, the 15th Amendment, the 19th Amendment, the Civil Rights Acts of 1957, 1961, 1965, 1968, and 1991, the Immigration Acts of 1965 and 1991, the IRCA amnesty, affirmative action, multiculturalism, the Obama presidency, Obamacare, etc.
Everything that we despise in Dixie has been imposed upon us through the federal government in Washington by the consolidated despotism created by Abraham Lincoln and his Republican successors either through the federal courts, executive orders, or acts of Congress backed by the Northern majority.
Each and every time we are defeated because of federal supremacy and the fact that we are a perpetual minority in the Glorious Union which is based on “majority rule.” White Nationalists preach “White solidarity” when a third of the White population (mostly concentrated in the Northeast, Upper Midwest, and West Coast) is formally aligned with blacks and Hispanics in the Democratic Party.
“You hate free market capitalism and all the wealth and prosperity it created for white European nations.”
“Between 1865 and 1929, the United States and the nations of Europe underwent mass industrialization and expansion that resulted in an unprecedented standard of living and an explosion of white babies.”
Between 1865 and 1929, Yankeeland experienced an explosion of industrialization and expansion while the South and West writhed in poverty, which makes sense when you realize that high tariffs benefited Northern industrialists while placing the burden of taxation on agricultural areas in the South and West.
The government revenues that were derived from the high tariffs were then further redistributed throughout the North through government spending and Union Army pensions.
Further reading on this subject can be found in Richard Bensel’s Yankee Leviathan: The Origins of Central State Authority in America, 1859-1877, The Political Economy of American Industrialization, 1877-1900, and Sectionalism and American Political Development, 1880-1980.
“Our kind was 25% of the world population at the dawn of the century and stayed that way in the 1950s even after two world wars. White European nations, most notably the USA, become the most prosperous nations the world has ever known.”
Wasn’t the White birthrate in America significantly higher in the eighteenth century and early nineteenth century? Didn’t it decline after industrialization and urbanization killed off the family farm?
“And yet, you through all that prosperity and success under the bus whilst defending chattel slavery?”
Whose success? Whose prosperity? Are you referring to the millions of Jews who came to America and settled in the North and West during that period?
“You defend the presence of African blacks in the South whilst smearing the North for being 100% white, and then use the Jacobins to justify your attack on 100% white societies? What kind of a nationalist are you?”
(1) First, the North wasn’t “100% White” during that time period: after abolishing slavery, 1/2 of the black population in America relocated to the North and West from 1865 to 1965.
(2) Second, the free negroes who relocated to the North were American citizens. If you will recall, your president Lincoln armed 180,000 negroes to kill White Southerners to “save the Union,” and they were rewarded after the war with citizenship and civil rights.
(3) Third, from 1867 until 1877, the Black Republicans in the North attempted to impose negro rule on the South, a project which wasn’t finally dismantled until 1901.
(4) Fourth, it is an urban legend that the system we have today started in the 1960s. Jim Crow was a Southern system of race relations that existed to a lesser extent in the Western states.
The Northeast and Midwest have been integrated since the 1880s. Massachusetts passed the first comprehensive civil rights laws during Reconstruction. The North repealed its anti-miscegenation laws by the 1880s.
Even before the War Between the States, blacks were citizens in Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine. They lost citizenship and voting rights in Pennsylvania in the late 1830s.
(5) As for the Jacobins, it is a historical fact that Revolutionary France abolished slavery in 1794 and that blacks were citizens of the French Republic with equal rights.
In fact, blacks were considered the only “true republicans” in the colonies, and reactionary planters in Guadeloupe and San-Domingue were beheaded with the guillotine after the French reconquest of those colonies from the British.
The French Republic armed free negroes as corsairs and soldiers and used them to invade the British West Indies to overthrow slavery and kill the White population there. It was kind of like what your president Lincoln did with the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863.
“I’ll tell you what you are: You’re a discredited 1800s aristocrat.”
As we saw in the French Revolution, it was a short jump for Black Republicans – one year of the Republican calendar, in fact – from beheading King Louis XVI and the “aristocrats” in the name of “equality and liberty” to full blown negro equality.
“You’re way is the way of oppression and tyranny, of agrarianism and no-growth economics.”
So, you have traded King George III for Barack Obama, and you say that we are more “free” than we were before?
“You don’t believe in a meritocracy, you believe in an aristocracy as it existed for hundreds of years. There is nothing “natural” about your form of government, which you described like so.”
Okay, you got me there: “meritocracy” is what has allowed Jews and Asians and other leftwing social radicals to hijack the universities and take over finance and other culturally sensitive parts of the economy like the film industry or the newspapers.
In all of American history, we have never been governed more badly than we are today, so I will admit that I laugh at the idea that “meritocracy” leads to good government when experience has shown that it leads to market dominant oligarchies composed of ethnic aliens.
“Oh yeah, because Iran under the Ayatollah’s is SUCH a successful model of government! You and the phony nationalists that support you should move your asses to Iran if you like their government so much! And then you sit here and smear the American Revolution?”
Iran is an independent country that still has some degree of control over its own culture. The same is true of Arab countries that get their news from al-Jazeera.
OTOH, the United States is the plaything of a Jewish/Yankee based oligarchy which is sucking America dry and rules the whole country (and much of the rest of the world by extension) exclusively for its own benefit.
“Please GTFO out of OUR country if you hate it so much!”
Dixie is my country. I would love to see Dixie “get out of your country.” We actually have no choice in the matter. At this point, it is getting out of your country or going down with the ship.
“(And by “our” I mean white Europeans like me who embrace the American Founding, embrace the Enlightenment, embrace free market capitalism, and embrace the success and prosperity of white European nations, unlike you and your discredited agrarian notions).”
(1) First, the Southern colonies were not “founded” by the American Revolution. They were founded by English settlers in the 17th and early 18th centuries.
(2) Second, only half the colonies supported the republican side in the American Revolution, and within the South it provoked a civil war between royalists and republicans.
The White majority in North Carolina and Maryland didn’t support the American Revolution. Georgia rejoined the Empire. South Carolina and Virginia were divided on the wisdom of the Revolution which was started in New England.
(3) Third, you make it sound like creating the Union with the Northeast had unanimous support in the South, but that wasn’t the case at all.
Patrick Henry smelt a rat in Philadelphia. The Southern colonies only joined the Union under explicit conditions in the Constitution that alleviated their fears of consolidation by reserving powers not delegated to the federal government to the states and the people.
(4) Fourth, the Anti-Federalists were vindicated when Yankees reneged on the Constitution and imposed their own Union – a consolidated despotism of unlimited powers, which is used to promote various crank utopian schemes – on the South through violence in the War Between the States.
(5) Finally, the Enlightenment ideology of “liberty and equality” and “human rights” – which was given a trial run in Jacobinism during the French Revolution, only to be discredited by its own extremism – is the fountain of most of the evils that plague the United States, France, and other Western countries in our own times.
“Sonny, me thinks you’re some kind of Jew in disguise what with all the garbage you promote which invariably serves an anti-white end.”
Why would the Jews be against the Enlightenment? That’s when the Jews were brought out of their ghettos. That’s what caused foolish liberals to attempt to integrate Jews and blacks into European societies.
Jews love liberal democracy, free market capitalism, meritocracy, Americanism – all those things which you think are so great and wonderful, which is why the Jews are now dominant in Yankeeland, and which the neocons behind W. and McCain and who control Mitt Romney seek to impose on Russia and foreign countries – because they have empowered the Jew.
“There’s nothing pro-white about what you believe in. NOTHING.”
The Confederacy was explicitly pro-White:
“Our fathers made this a government for the white man, rejecting the negro, as an ignorant, inferior, barbarian race, incapable of self-government, and not, therefore, entitled to be associated with the white man upon terms of civil, political, or social equality.
This new administration comes into power, under the solemn pledge to overturn and strike down this great feature of our Union, without which it would never have been formed, and to substitute in its stead their new theory of the universal equality of the black and white races.”
“You’d rather live in a society full of savage negroes as long as you are controlling them all. The idea that you should SEPARATE yourselves from them never even crosses your mind!”
To be perfectly honest, I really would rather live in a racialist and conservative slave society like the Confederacy than in your liberal democratic free society in the Union, which is ruled Jews and Yankees who worship negroes and preach anarchy and social equality, as well as free love and communism, and all the other lunatic ideas that prompted us to secede from your rotten country in the first place!
“You smear 100% white nations like France that stuck by BIBLICAL LAW in keeping themselves white!”
So, what your are saying is that Robespierre & Co. stuck by “BIBLICAL LAW,” and I am smearing them by pointing out how they abolished the Gregorian calendar and dispatched an army of sans-cullotes to the Caribbean armed with the guillotine to promote negro equality?
“The French Revolution does not discredit the preservation of nations with a dominant white majority any more then the Bolshevik Revolution did in Russia.”
The French Revolution and Russian Revolution were both ideological revolutions that compromised the racial, cultural, and ethnic integrity of France and Russia by substituting leftwing ideologies committed to “equality” for the traditional Christian social order.
“Real Americans don’t need retrograde vermin like you.”
Real Amurricans? Like who? You, Lincoln, John Brown, Obama, and Mitt Romney? Who says we need you?
“We are fighting for the continued existence of the United States as a first world white European state, while you fight for a form of government that resembles a murderous, backwards Islamic state! How disgusting!!”
We’re fighting for the dissolution of the United States – to be free at last of all your great Yankee ideas, whether it be abolition and civil rights, or strong minded womanism, free lovism, and feminism, or various other -isms and -phobias like “anti-racism” and Jacobinism which are continuously generated by your rotten free society social system.