Southern Baptists Lobby Romney To Support Amnesty

Dixie

This is another reason why I am pleased by the decline of the Southern Baptists:

“The National Association of Evangelicals, which represents more than 40 denominations, passed a resolution calling for a comprehensive immigration overhaul in 2009. The Southern Baptist Convention did so last year.

It called for “just, fair immigration reform,” said Richard Land, president of the Southern Baptists’ ethics commission, who also attended Tuesday’s news conference.

“It passed with at least an 80 percent vote,” he said, “and four of five Southern Baptists is about as good as you’re going to get on any given day on anything.”

Let’s review:

The Southern Baptist Convention has denounced “racism,” embraced amnesty for illegal aliens, and has now elected Fred Luter Jr. as its first black president. It has also debated changing its own name to become less Southern and more universalistic because its primary mission is to evangelize non-Southerners.

The Southern Baptists have forgotten the cause of their own ascendance. Now they are poised to plunge into decline like the Methodists.

Note: In other news, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops has issued a statement on Obama’s DREAM Act executive order.


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  1. One more thing. I firmly believe that charity begins at home. If you don’t love your family and your kin, you can’t really love anything. And the members of your race are your kin.

    At this point in my life, I don’t really understand all that much about the nature of charity, though. But I know it when I see it.

    And PC multiculti bullshit ain’t it. And I’ve never heard anything as wise and as wonderful as St. Paul’s words from any atheist. Ever. It’s always about how others have failed them or how wise they think they are.

    Deo Vindice

  2. Blood lust? No, more like we live here now, you can fight about it, or you can run. My people need living space, I wholeheartedly approve of taking it. Blood lust has nothing to do with it. I don’t approve of war for the sake of it, as our modern industrial complex wages it.

  3. “I wouldn’t have a problem with Catholics if they rejected Americanism, returned to their own traditions, and stopped preaching about “human rights.”

    If they return to the tradition they had in Europe it would mean advocating the uniting of the Roman Catholic Church and the American (or Southern American) state.

    From the Wikipedia article:

    “In 1898 Leo lamented an America where church and state are “dissevered and divorced,” and wrote of his preference for a closer relationship between the Catholic Church and the State, along European lines.[7]

    Finally, in his pastoral letter Testem benevolentiae (January 22, 1899; “Witness to Our Benevolence”) addressed to Cardinal James Gibbons, Archbishop of Baltimore, Leo condemned other forms of Americanism. Catholicism had long allowed nations to tolerate other religions, but the Church believes that the Catholic Faith must be favored, to the exclusion of other religions, when possible.”

    One of the primary objections to traditional Roman Catholicism is that its ultimate authority lay in a foreign land. Unlike today the Pope in the past was sovereign ruler over large areas of territory in Italy. The Pope exercised real political power and influence. If that church reverted to earlier forms there is no reason that pattern would not resume.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_States

    http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08562a.htm

    I have no problem with the Catholic minority of the South that has accommodated itself to the dominant Anglo-Saxon Protestant culture of the Southern States.

    I think it could become a real easy jump to make from “I have no problem with Catholics” i.e. the minority who already live here to “I have no problem with massive immigration of Catholics that makes the Protestant majority of 400 years in the South into a minority.”

    I don’t wish to see what happened to the North from the 1840’s to the 1920’s happen to the South. If one is truly an ethnic nationalist, not a pan-white nationalist, then they realize white immigration must be regulated as well.

  4. I am a devote man of God and I have pretty much nothing positive to say about most churches. They have left God, so I went to find him in other places, like the deer stand, weight room and combat zones.

    Empire building is good and brings prosperity, secures resources, opens markets and in the past didn’t bring the conquered in as equals. Nations/ people grow and expand or they shrink and die. Taking the good and bad, we’d be a much poorer race without the British empire

  5. Then I think we agree, Jim. I’m pretty sure my ancestors in Virginia felt that way, too. Be it Red Indians or Black Republican Yankees, they fought for what was theirs. I’m very proud of them. I’m also pretty sure they were all Christians.

    Deo Vindice

  6. What amazes me about our so-called religious leaders is their willful ignorance of the malign and malicious intent behind the mass migration of latin americans into the US. The democratic party is using migration in an effort to establish a permanent elective majority. The business lobby is using migration to bid down wages. Ethnic out-groupers and in-group elitist traitors see this as an opportunity at least for increased pogroms against whites, if not outright genocide. The little-known secret about immigrants is that religious-affiliated relief services are subsidized by the government which has co-opted them and use them in the government’s divide-and-conquer strategy. The international bankers were using migration to attack US sovereignty and soften us up for an eventual North American union. But our religious leaders are never asked whether it gives them pause that their effective allies in our dispossession have malign motives. These leaders are incredibly resourceful when it comes to browbeating their flock into accepting the dispossession of their OWN CHILDREN but they are babes in the woods when it comes to gauging the motives of political, business and ethnic operatives.

    The biblical passage that came to mind when contemplating this post is Matthew 7: 9 – 11: “Which of you, if your son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? 11 If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him!” We don’t even meet this standard anymore because we are effectively giving our children “stones when they ask for bread” by not defending their patrimony handed down to them through the generations.

  7. i think a large number of Chirstian leaders that want beaners in the usa want them because they think they are more conservative/ traditional. Which is a false statement if you’ve spent any time down south of Texas. Every nation down there is corrupt, socialist and pretty lax morally across the board

  8. I just want to clarify that I consider Jesus to be a very admirable
    character and the Gospel is a great work. Since the twentieth century though the wheels have fallen off institutional Christianity. I see nothing wrong with pointing this out. Liberals actually think the dispensationalists are representative of a real Christian right. It’s laughable.

  9. I’m with Stonelifter there.
    I see modern Churches as fulfilling that ratbag preacher Mr Dewitt in Zulu. He tried to uplift the spear chucking Zulu. The British army provided the correct solution to this menacing black plague. A .45 Martini Henry solution…suplimented at Ulundi with Gattling Guns.

  10. The hippie Jesus and his diversity-mongering followers of today?

    I’ll take anti-Christian Aryans like Nietzsche and Heidegger instead.

  11. Churches would lose tax exemption if they spoke truth. There is no free speech with one major exception. Joos gave Falwell or Robertson a Lear jet around 1980.
    Joo David Brog controls Hagee:

  12. Otto Witt was misportrayed in the film Zulu. He actually helped keep watch from the top of the Oskarberg with Surgeon Reynolds and helped give the alarm at the approach of the Zulus. He then evacuated his wife and 7 year old daughter to safety, along with a wounded British NNC officer.

  13. @Dixiegirl- For a tough girl, you seem afraid of “social condemnation” or anyone calling you “names”. lol

    I was speaking generally. Most people want to go to a church such as you describe, but they don’t insist on it in their congregations for fear of condemnation. Also, it can just not be effective, lol— as with people who have carried on that fight in the churches that only select certain scriptures that can be interpreted as being about the State Agenda du jour

  14. “…Churches would lose tax exemption if they spoke truth….”

    It must be worse than that. Even the worst sellout “christians” aren’t that money grubbing.

    Back in Reality, if people speak the truth, (or even something nearer to it), the fact is, the pews fill up and money comes in. Take some of the bloggers, Alex Jones, whatever.

    —Yet NOT ONE SINGLE church is advertising that they don’t take the deals and write offs. NOT ONE. Really think about that. NOT EVEN ONE.

    Every town should have at least ONE that says, “Let’s just go ahead and pay up.” Ceasar his due and all that.

  15. Seriously— what kind of people wouldn’t just go ahead and pay a freaking tax instead of selling out an ability to SPEAK.

  16. @Dixiegirl
    I apologize then. You are correct in your assertion that most would be afraid of ridicule to do things a little bit different than in the past.
    I am not like that.
    I guess alot of the priests and ministers like the extra money they save from not paying tax so they can buy the latest model cars,suvs, go on alot of vacations, live kinda easy off the collection plate.
    To those few pastors who do pay the tax, I commend them. I don’t know any personally, just in case somewhere there is a pastor or pastors who pay the tax and keep themselves free from government control.
    You sound tough to me– that’s a compliment.
    I like debating you because you don’t cave in and you stick to your guns. I admire that.
    I also notice you can also see the other side and acknowledge credit when credit is due ( I noticed that in general throughout all the articles and threads of commentary). I admire that also.

  17. The Republitard Christians are sure America was NEVER meant to be a White, Western, European nation, but according to them it was ALWAYS meant to be a Judeo-Christian nation (whatever that religion is). They fail to realize the Christianity thing came as being the predominant religioun of the West. They sold out the West, now let them be sold out.

  18. as far as I know, the IRS doesn’t monitor churches and the pastors could pretty much say what they wish. The real issue isn’t the tax code, its the fact divinity schools were taken over by the Godless

  19. Thank you (?!) for that link to Rome’s treachery.

    http://thewhitechrist.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/5065/

    As to the comments of men like Stone and Joe- Sure, deny the fact that the Church still exists, even in the midst of great apostasy, and bowing down to Baal. But if you aren’t part of, or looking with all your heart for, a ‘true church’- and doing all in your power to move where a godly pastor still preaches Truth…..

    well, you’re still part of the problem. And are no better than a Jew, a Fag, or any other Liberal antichrist out there. That’s about all there needs to be said, Guys.

    Put up or shut up.

  20. “Personally, I think the ideal would be to have a strong national church like the old school Church of England which is focused on catering to our own people, exactly the opposite of the evangelism you see in the video above.”

    Hunter, I’d be PROUD to have you as MY Senior Warden.
    Truly.

  21. i do nothing but defend true/ traditional faith Fr John. the church these days isn’t that. My loyalty is to the Almighty, not buildings, names and the like

  22. One cannot have God for His Father, who will not have the Church for his mother.’
    http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/050701.htm

    St. Cyprian was not a Roman Catholic cultist. But he WAS a Catholic. The statement above puts to rout all Protestant claims of autonomous existence. So, too, does John Donne’s poem ‘No Man is an Island.’ Hunter (even young as he is) understands this. Stone- You, (as an elder) should know better. I’ve read of all you have done for your family. But it will come to naught, should you divorce yourself from the Vine, which your atomistic Xtianity thinking has done.

    I stand with the church of the Ages, Stone. Unless one stands with the Church of the Ages, one eventually stands on sinking sand, and nothing more. How does that hymn go?

    “1 Built on the Rock the Church shall stand
    Even when steeples are falling.
    Crumbled have spires in ev’ry land;
    Bells still are chiming and calling,
    Calling the young and old to rest,
    But above all the soul distressed,
    Longing for rest everlasting.

    2 Surely in temples made with hands
    God, the Most High, is not dwelling;
    High above earth His temple stands,
    All earthly temples excelling.
    Yet He who dwells in heav’n above
    Chooses to live with us in love,
    Making our bodies His temple.

    3 We are God’s house of living stones,
    Built for His own habitation.
    He through baptismal grace us owns
    Heirs of His wondrous salvation.
    Were we but two His name to tell,
    Yet He would deign with us to dwell,
    With all His grace and His favor.

    4 Here stands the font before our eyes,
    Telling how God has received us;
    Th’altar recalls Christ’s sacrifice
    And what His Supper here gives us.
    Here sound the Scriptures that proclaim
    Christ yesterday, today, the same,
    And evermore, our Redeemer.

    5 Grant then, O God, Your will be done,
    That, when the church bells are ringing,
    Many in saving faith may come
    Where Christ His message is bringing:
    “I know mine own, My own know Me,
    You, not the world, My face shall see.
    My peace I leave with you. Amen.” Lutheran SBH, Grundtvig.
    http://www.hymnary.org/hymn/LSB2006/645

    The Lutherans (as the Mother Church of the Reformation) have it correct. The Church is both ALL of us believers, AND the institution- including the “…buildings, names and the like.” And she IS our Mother.

  23. @Fr John
    If you want me, or anyone else, to “move” to a place with a “godly pastor”, could you please tell me where that place is?
    I looked and looked for a very long time, and couldn’t find any kind “place” that you keep insisting is out there.
    Maybe I’ll find it “in novissimo die” — on the last day.
    It doesn’t necessarily follow that if someone disagrees with you that such a one worships baal or any kind of horrific god or gods.
    The Light of Christ is disponible for all who seek, whether one agrees with you or not.

  24. The IRS very much monitors the churches– all of ’em.
    The Real issue is The Tax Code. There’s no way of getting around that.
    “They” became “godless” when “they” decided to willfully and with complete and full volition take the money from the collection plate and use the money they save not paying taxes to have an easy life.
    It’s not a complicated story.

  25. There’s an excellent article over at “pragmatic witness” website entitled:
    “Ancient Israel, as we know it, never existed”.
    It was put up June 17th.
    Compelling and thought-provoking.
    Savitri Devi is a good source also to learn about how power works in the West and how our religions– both christianity and judiasm– are used by those in power to indoctrinate us and herd us around; Confuse and divide us so they, those in top power ( they are neither christian or jewish in the true sense), can easily foment war; And keep all the power in their hands while we point fingers at one another over every little thing; All finger pointing based on the indoctrination and propaganda we are bombarded with every day from birth, about 95% of it based on bullsh*t and lies from the very beginning.
    Google Savitri Devi. Very interesting, intelligent, and compelling point of view of the whole set-up here in the west.

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