Dixie: The Ethnostate

Greater Dixie: The Ethnostate?

Dixie

Vanishing American and Southern Nationalist are sounding off on the concept of a Southern ethnostate.

It has always struck me as obvious: where do our people actually live? If we were going to create an “ethnostate” for ourselves, just where would we do this?

White Southerners, “Anglo-Celts,” “Americans,” Crackers, Cavaliers, “White people,” “the WASP nest,” rednecks, hillbillies, peckerwoods, etc. – these terms all refer to the same distinct Southern tribe of White people – who are concentrated in 17 states in the Southeastern quadrant of North America.

These states are Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, Louisiana, and South Carolina (Deep South), Arkansas, North Carolina, Tennessee, and Virginia (Upper South), Florida, Texas, Missouri, West Virginia, and Kentucky (Border South), and Oklahoma, Maryland, and Delaware (Peripheral South).

Contrast with BRA:

I’m hopping off this train – I am not an American. If this is “America,” then surely we are something else.

The map above is Greater Dixie or Imperial Dixie. In reality, the ethnocultural border between Dixie and the other sections of America slices through states like Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Florida, and Virginia.

Ethnocultural Dixie - The Ethnostate?

The border of Dixie drawn here is more accurate (the border in Florida is now the I-4 corridor between Tampa and Orlando) than the one which is imposed by artificial state lines: West Texas, South Florida, West Oklahoma, North Missouri, North Delaware, Northern West Virginia, and the Beltway portions of Virginia and Maryland are not part of the South.

Likewise, the Kentucky Rhineland extends into adjacent areas of Southern Illinois and Southern Indiana, which explains the deviant political orientation of Indiana in the Midwest. If Chicagoland didn’t dominate Illinois, most of the counties below I-77 would tilt Illinois toward Dixie.

Peripheral Dixie - The Ethnostate?

This is another map which highlights the same underlying ethnic and cultural division of the United States: Texas, Missouri, and Oklahoma are split between the Germanic Breadbasket and Anglo-Celtic Dixie; Florida, Virginia, West Virginia, Maryland, and Delaware are split between Anglo-Celtic Dixie and the “Nation of Immigrants.”

American Ancestry (2000 Census)

This is another map which explains a lot about the nature of American politics.

(1) First, it shows that Dixie is a biracial nation. The history of Dixie has been defined by the racial conflict between Anglo-Celts and African-Americans. The orange splotches in Eastern Oklahoma are indicative of the fate of the Southeastern Indians.

(2) Second, it was precisely the racial tension and conflict between the Anglo-Celts and African-Americans and Indians over the course of four centuries in the Southeast that made “whiteness” a meaningful ethnic marker for “White Southerners.”

Why do we call ourselves “White people”? How did our racial identity become so important to us? It is because there are millions of African-Americans here.

(3) Third, the “Peripheral South” is completely explained by ancestry in states like Texas, Virginia, Oklahoma, Missouri, and Florida – North Florida and South Missouri are part of Dixie, whereas South Florida is part of the “Nation of Immigrants” and North Missouri is part of the Heartland/Breadbasket.

Where are the Baptists?

Yet another interesting map about the “Bible Belt” that explains a lot about American politics.

In this case, the distribution of Baptist churches reveals that the Anglo-Celts are spread over portions of North Missouri, West Texas, and West Oklahoma which are not reflected in the ethnic maps.

The Ethnostate - Southern English

As everyone knows, Dixie has its own version of the English language which sounds as distinct to non-Southerners as Australians and Kiwis do to the English.

The Ethnostate - Confederate States of America

“FELLOW-CITIZENS AND BRETHREN OF THE CONFEDERATE STATES OF AMERICA: For now we are brethren, not in name merely, but in fact, men of one flesh, one bone, one interest, one purpose and of an identity of domestic institutions, we have hence I trust a prospect of living together in peace, with our institutions subject to protection not defamation.”
– President Jefferson Davis

This is the most interesting map in my possession – the Confederate States of America, 1861 to 1865. It doesn’t need any explanation.

The Ethnostate - Jim Crow South

The same mysterious configuration of states reappears in the map of the Jim Crow South (1896-1965). See also the “Solid South.”

The anti-miscegenation laws of all the Southern states were struck down in Loving v. Virginia in 1967. Dixie was also integrated by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 which were specifically targeted at the South.

The Ethnostate - Reconstruction South

This is what Dixie looked like for a few years between the Confederacy and the Jim Crow South during the Reconstruction period.

Conclusion

Dixie is already a de facto ethnostate – an autonomous ethnic, cultural, and religious sub-nation within the United States. It is the American equivalent of Quebec.

Thirty minutes of listening to the radio in Dixie (current samples of standard fare below) is sufficient to confirm that this area has its own mind about all sorts of things. White racial consciousness has been part of Southern culture for centuries now. It is more likely be reignited here than anywhere else in the United States.

The vast majority of racial conservatives are White Southerners. The same is true of the majority of implicit White conservatives who are amenable to racial appeals. These people are our co-ethnics and will prove much easier to sway to our own point of view for that reason alone.

The alternative to creating an ethnostate in Dixie is uprooting ourselves to migrate thousands of miles across North America to join forces with unrelated White people on the basis of abstract revolutionary ideology to create a proposition nation in the Pacific Northwest.

Alternatively, we can stay put here where we can unite with our neighbors on the basis of a common ethnicity, a common religion, a common culture, a common heritage, a common philosophy, a common racial history, self interest, and readily available economic, racial, and historical grievances against Washington which are shared by a wider audience.

I suspect that might prove a more workable solution.

50 Comments

  1. Hunter,

    Please tell where you got the nine-nations map? I’d like a closer look as it seems I’m right on 3 borders, which explains a few things….

  2. I will bet a million dollars that White racial consciousness reasserts itself in the Deep South (Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina) before it manifests anywhere else in the United States – 90 percent of Whites in Alabama and 89 percent of Whites in Mississippi voted against Obama in 2008.

    As for challenging the yoke of the federal government, that is more or less synonymous with Dixie and Arizona. Just yesterday, a federal judge upheld Alabama’s new immigration law. Gov. Bentley was on television this afternoon talking about it.

    Georgia and South Carolina passed Arizona-style immigration laws. A federal court blocked the Georgia law. Alabama starts enforcing the new law today. South Carolina will undoubtedly wind up in court over the issue.

    Next year, Oklahoma and Tennessee will be revisiting immigration reform which was tabled this year. Mississippi, Louisiana, and Virginia are also having elections in November for their state legislatures.

    As of 2011, Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina, Florida, North Carolina, and Virginia have some form of E-Verify protection. It is also worth observing that E-Verify went down in many states before the Supreme Court upheld Arizona’s E-Verify law in May.

    In Texas, immigration is by far the most important state issue, but the unique nature of the Texas GOP has been an obstacle to passing new immigration laws … it won’t be long before the issue boils over there.

  3. I don’t know if Missouri and Maryland can really be considered “Southern”.. Missouri has more of a Midwestern/Western culture to it, and Maryland is Eastern Seaboard – very gritty and working class. Those two will probably remain American.

    I’ve been a Yankee my whole life, (or “Foundryman” to be specific (wait, could they be a new white army in Harold Covington’s NVA fantasy world? Beware, President Wallace! The Northmen and their distant cousins 12 times removed, THE FOUNDRYMEN are coming to conquer ZOG! HAHAHA!)) and I don’t want to stop being American, in spite of how corrupted and distorted it has become. I wish we could just keep what we have and fix it, however impossible that seems. Where is it written that this great dissolution must happen? I guess I’m being sentimental, it’s just sometimes I look back on the whole American experience and get a little sad. It wasn’t all terrible and wrong, this place and everything we did.

  4. Mr. Wallace: Thank you. I thought I was the only person in the country offended, no enraged, listening to these foreigners in broken English proclaim that they were us. I’m not joking when I say it felt like a slap in the face to me and my ancestors. This was pure, unadulterated propaganda aimed directly at whites. It made me want to take a 12guage to my tv. The icing on the cake was that I lived near Seattle and got to hear via radio that Somali immigrants were dancing in the streets. Meanwhile George the Lesser was telling us Islam is a religion of peace. I felt like a foreinger in my own country for the first time in my life.

  5. Hunter,

    You are so right. Any sort of patriotism for the dead entity formerly known as the “USA” is worthless. This country is dead as the Roman and Byzantine Empires, especiall for Yankees like me whose Dutch and English ancestries go back to the 1600’s.

    This raises a great question. Southerners like you at least have the hope for a Southern Homeland. What do Yankees like me have to hope for? What is to stop us from becoming total Roissey-style Nihilist who only have experience and pleasure to live for since there is truly no political hope for the future to live for?

  6. Those of us under the age of thirty were nursed on the myth of a country that no longer exists, and, perhaps oddly enough, never actually existed during our lifetime. How can we mourn the passing of a country we never knew? We cannot.

    The old folks know that something went terribly wrong at some point in the past, but they aren’t exactly sure what it was, they’ve been bamboozled. Stupid Americans! The Left ran circles around the tropes that govern their commonsensical thinking as if it was nothing. For them it is a tragedy, but for us it is a mess.

    Somehow we need to pick up the pieces and start over.

  7. Great analysis, Hunter. It is also my hope that the USA will break apart (as a result of the federal jackboot and mass, out-of-control non-white immigration) and then an independent Southern Nation finally may assert itself. The only thing and (this is really small) is the highway you meant to refer to that divides Chicagoland from the ‘real’ Illinois is I-80, not I-77.

  8. Your pining for an ethnostate is sheer madness. What the North didn’t finish with Reconstruction, they will complete when you are finally ground to dust. You won’t even be allowed a reservation like the red man.
    Read the book by E. Michael Jones, The Slaughter of Cities. The subtitle, Urban Renewal as Ethnic Cleansing, is all you really need to know. His story begins right at the conclusion of WW II. I read somewhere this racial guilt trip agenda is a result of Adolf Hitler’s policies. Sounds logical.
    There is hope. A divine hope. In the book of Daniel, king Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon had a dream. He had a dream of a great image, the image of a man with a golden head, silver chest and arms, brass belly and thighs, iron legs and feet part iron and part clay. From other verse of Scripture we know Nebuchadnezzar is the head of gold, the kingdom of the Medo-Persians the silver, Greece the brass, Rome the iron and the feet Pax Americana. We are living in these End Times of the mixed iron and clay.
    What I found interesting is the exposition about the feet of this image from the KJV. Daniel 2:43 says; “And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.”
    At least you can be certain the globalists will not win because the very next verse says, “And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever.” Amen and maranatha.

  9. Leaving Tennessee out of “the South” is as stupid as leaving Germany out of the Germanosphere — TN has the highest concentration of pure Anglo-Celts.

  10. I will bet a million dollars that White racial consciousness reasserts itself in the Deep South (Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina) before it manifests anywhere else in the United States

    If it could, and I don’t believe it can, this would have to be true. Ecotopians are die-hard leftists. Northeasters are plain cunts, though a savvy Republican govt could easily swing Maine, possibly Vermont, but this would never result in racial politics. The Germans are dolts. Arizona-West Texas have the only potential otherwise. New Mexico is worthless whichever way it tends. Pittsburgh and Philly were until very recently very working-class racist, but the latter has seen a lot of hipster run-off from the Tri-State.

  11. At least you can be certain the globalists will not win because the very next verse says,

    They have won. There is no “because” between a biblical verse and reality. Try again.

  12. This raises a great question. Southerners like you at least have the hope for a Southern Homeland. What do Yankees like me have to hope for? What is to stop us from becoming total Roissey-style Nihilist who only have experience and pleasure to live for since there is truly no political hope for the future to live for?

    As a Roissy-style Yankee nihilist, William, and one of partial English and Dutch ancestry, I commend you to those states where our blood is still very much in the majority — Maine, Vermont, and New Hampshire.

    Put political hopes behind you, and hasten down your own path away from such specters. Just go to New England and settle as best as you can. Don’t worry if you can’t find a wife and start a family, this was never a guarantee for most men anyhow, and American women are beyond corrupt. Be glad these states are still mostly white. Work, read, do yoga and eat well. Become the New Brahmin. Stop drinking coffee.

  13. William,

    Reality will determine how this eventually shakes out.

    Since the 1960s, the U.S. and Western Europe have been operating on an unsustainable cultural model. It is already visibly wobbling. The damn thing will be dead within 15 years.

    As for the South, it is entirely predictable that the Southern states will hang together as a unit when the USA goes down like the Titanic. The trigger will be Washington and New York City ruining our national finances, destroying our economy, black people launching the race war here on The Day The EBT Card Stops Working, and the federal government becoming a parasite that uses our taxes to finance our dispossession with its police state.

    The fate of the North is a real mystery – Dixie is one sub-nation with a separate and autonomous sense of regional identity, but the North has split into several sub-nations. The so-called “Midwest” is really two different places.

    There is now a New England, the Foundry/Nation of Immigrants, the Heartland/Breadbasket, Empty Corridor, and Ecotopia. In such a world, New England could emerge as a successor state.

    If Quebec were ever to secede from Canada, it could revive secessionist sentiments in New England where the libertarians have been moving to New Hampshire and Vermont has been making secessionist noises for years now.

    The vast area that includes Ohio, Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, Michigan, Toronto and the whole Great Lakes area is the core of “America” and will likely emerge from the wreckage as “America.”

    I doubt it will be preaching multiculturalism at that point.

  14. Where is it written that this great dissolution must happen?

    Law digests everywhere. Black holes. Taquerias and tenements. University libraries. Blacks eating cheese puffs on Confederate monuments throughout the South.

    Dissolution is the total environment.

  15. As for New England and Pennsylvania, they will quickly find out that their biggest problem will be how to deal with all the refugees from the Bosh-Wash corridor in a zero sum world. It is easy to imagine what becomes of New York City and its overflow in New Jersey and Connecticut after Wall Street.

    There is a post about this in the forum: the White middle class has abandoned NYC more than any other place in the United States because it is ruled by gentry liberals.

    New York City has built its economy around financialization. It is Ground Zero for the world financial crisis. That is why the federal government spent over $1 trillion dollars bailing out Wall Street.

    Dealing with the depopulation of Charlotte, Atlanta, and Houston will be comparatively easier because these huge cities are not a single megapolis like the Bosh-Wash corridor.

  16. Laz,

    I meant to say I-70 or I-64 or Route 50 – it is my understanding that “South Illinois,” or the “Egypt” area is clearly part of Dixie, begins somewhere south of there, and north of there Illinois is part of the Heartland/Breadbasket, whereas Chicagoland is part of the “Nation of Immigrants” or “The Foundry” which is the grimy industrial area that sprawls around the Great Lakes.

    Illinois and Indiana are three different places: the Kentucky Rhineland of Anglo-Celtic Crackers (the hillbilly overflow) in South Illinois and South Indiana, which is where The Parrott has situated the Hoosier Nation, the Germanic Heartland/Breadbasket which is “real Illinois” plus West Indiana in between I-70 and I-65, and finally there is “Nation of Immigrants” which is Chicagoland, Gary, Southbend, and Northeast Indiana.

  17. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copperheads_(politics)

    The Copperheads were a vocal group of Democrats in the Northern United States (see also Union (American Civil War)) who opposed the American Civil War, wanting an immediate peace settlement with the Confederates. Republicans started calling anti-war Democrats “Copperheads,” likening them to the venomous snake. The Peace Democrats accepted the label, but for them the copper “head” was the likeness of Liberty, which they cut from copper pennies and proudly wore as badges.

    Copperheadism was a highly contentious grassroots movement, strongest in the area just north of the Ohio River, as well as some urban ethnic wards. Some historians have argued that it represented a traditionalistic element alarmed at the rapid modernization of society sponsored by the Republican Party, and looked back to Jacksonian Democracy for inspiration.

    Probably the largest Copperhead group was the Knights of the Golden Circle; formed in Ohio in the 1850s, it became politicized in 1861. It reorganized as the Order of American Knights in 1863, and again, early in 1864, as the Order of the Sons of Liberty, with Vallandigham as its commander. One leader, Harrison H. Dodd, advocated violent overthrow of the governments of Indiana, Illinois, Kentucky, and Missouri in 1864. Democratic party leaders, and a Federal investigation, thwarted his conspiracy. In spite of this Copperhead setback, tensions remained high. The Charleston Riot took place in Illinois in March 1864. Indiana Republicans then used the sensational revelation of an antiwar Copperhead conspiracy by elements of the Sons of Liberty to discredit Democrats in the 1864 House elections. The military trial of Lambdin P. Milligan and other Sons of Liberty revealed plans to set free the Confederate prisoners held in the state. The culprits were sentenced to hang but the Supreme Court intervened in Ex parte Milligan, saying they should have received civilian trials.

    Most Copperheads actively participated in politics. On May 1, 1863, former Congressman Vallandigham declared that the war was being fought not to save the Union but to free the blacks and enslave Southern whites.

    The values of the Copperheads reflected the Jacksonian democracy of an earlier agrarian society. The Copperhead movement attracted Southerners who had settled north of the Ohio River, the poor, and merchants who had lost profitable Southern trade.[6] Copperheads did well in local and state elections in 1862, especially in New York, and won majorities in the legislatures of Illinois and Indiana. They were most numerous in border areas, including southern parts of Ohio, Illinois, and Indiana (in Missouri, comparable groups were avowed Confederates). The Copperhead coalition included many Irish American Catholics in eastern cities, mill towns, and mining camps (especially in the Pennsylvania coal fields). They were also numerous in German Catholic areas of the Midwest, especially Wisconsin[7]

  18. McPherson, in his “Battle Cry of Freedom,” draws the North/South cultural boundary in 1860 in the Midwest at 41N. Having grown up in New England, and having lived many years in Indiana and Ohio, I think this is still a good estimate.

    As to an ethnic state, I don’t think you can do it unless you can separate the races so that large, contiguous territories are either one or the other race. I don’t think this can be achieved.

    There is a plaque commemorating a speech by Vallandigham next to the public square in Mt. Vernon, Ohio

  19. I am still a loyal American. It’s just that the America I’m loyal to is the America of Steve Canyon, It’s A Wonderful Life, and Al Jolson.

    I never abandoned America, America abandoned me. My loyalty and that of my family now belongs to Texas first.

  20. Game wisdom:

    “Nut up and face reality squarely. There is no right or wrong. There is only what you do.

    What are you going to DO?

    Wait until society circles around back to some golden age that probably never existed?

    Chicks aren’t doing it wrong. They aren’t going to circle back to some previous way of doing things.

    The system is what the system is. Game the current system that exists now.

    Reality.”

  21. I’m not sure Maryland and Deleware logically fit in to Dixie. They have the same accent and manner of speech of southeast pa. West Virginia is also questionable as it left Virginia during the war.

  22. Welcome back, Oculus.

    As you know, the Protestants and Catholics in Louisiana aren’t about to start refighting the Reformation anytime soon. The real issue before us is how to separate ourselves from Washington, DC and the priests of liberalism in the MSM and the universities.

  23. “That.Was.Awesome.”

    lolzozlzozllzz

    and checking their phones!

    booty calls, u know.

    And driving by in their ridiculous cars which only black people drive with their flashy rims and their EBT card in their wallet and the TANF welfare check in the passenger seat.

  24. Iceman,

    West Virginia is part of the Cracker Nation except in the areas that border Pennsylvania. South Delaware (the area that voted for Christine O’Donnell) and Maryland’s Eastern Shore are also part of the Cracker Nation.

    Wilmington and Baltimore are clearly Northeastern cities. Washington, DC is a Southern city that has been overrun by transplants. The same is true of that whole area in NOVA which is geographically part of Dixie but culturally part of the Northeast.

    A neighbor of mine here in Alabama recently returned from the League of the South national conference in South Carolina. He told me that the most passionate Southerners there were a group of people from Maryland.

    They live so close to Washington and Baltimore that it has given them a sharper sense of their own distinctiveness.

  25. First off, I am so pleased to hear so many and varied people saying what needs to be said: “If you’re not White, European, and Christian, YOU ARE NOT AMERICAN.”

    The first step is the hardest- waking up and taking the pill to know that Keanu Reeves and Morpheus aren’t Americans, EITHER! (lol)

    The next step is becoming bold enough to say so; first on blogs, then in print, and finally, in public. The recent articles about a Black Panther jigaboo telling a YWC person handing out Constitutions, ‘I’m gonna get you’ in esssence, is a declaration of war.

    Then you get a gun, and a hideout/retreat shelter/rural holdover locale. Read http://www.survivalblog.com. Read ‘Patriots’ ‘One Second After’ and then read sites like this one.

    Then, you (at the same time, or before the last statement) find a body of believers of like mind (that’s the hardest thing to do here in Mondale-sota); whether that is a Tea Party, Church, or merely survivalist group. ORION. Our Race Is Our Nation, now.

    (Now if only Dixie weren’t so dadgum HOT!)

  26. Bob,

    Dixie is the only sub-region of the United States that could realistically be described as an “ethnostate.”

    (1) Dixie is not like the Pacific Northwest – a real ethnicity has lived in the South for centuries, Anglo-Celtic Whites, the WASPs, who are quite aware of their distinctiveness.

    Southern culture is about place, not ideology:

    Little Texas – God Blessed Texas

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbH60wCO-Yw

    Lynyrd Skynyrd – Sweet Home Alabama

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHsDa9_HSlA

    Charlie Daniels Band – The Devil Went Down to Georgia

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrnsiQu2soI

    Faith Hill – Mississippi Girl

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5tFZZLLQJ4

    (2) The CSA (1861 to 1865) was an independent country that seceded from the United States. That was followed by a struggle for home rule (1866 to 1896) that lasted for three generations. From 1896 until 1965, Dixie was a quasi-independent country as the Jim Crow South.

    The history of Dixie from 1861 until 1961 is very different from the history of the rest of the United States: there was never any “Gilded Age” or any “Roaring Twenties” here. Likewise, there was never a “Melting Pot” here or a “Nation of Immigrants” here.

    That these terms are applied to the entirety of the United States reflects the fact that “America” was synonymous with New England and the Midwest for 100 years. “America” is really The Foundry/Nation of Immigrants.

    “America” is that deep blue splotch on the 2nd map – it is like Italy ruling over the Roman Empire.

    To sum things up here, Dixie is an ethnicity that has been a state. In the Jim Crow era, it was a de facto nation state with a one party system of government.

    What happened in the 1950s and 1960s was an attempt by Washington to Americanize the South which had been its own world for the previous 100 years.

  27. Great article, but I’m still not understanding how this is an ethnostate. It’s a ‘bi-ethnostate’, isn’t it? By my calculations you’ll have 22.4 Million blacks in Dixie after the seperation. There will only be 12 Million blacks left in the whole rest of the United States!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_African-American_population

    With the possible exception of Hitler’s displacement of the Jews from much of Europe it’s impossible to think of a historical precedent for the forced resettlement of 20 million people of one ethnic group. That would be ethnic cleansing on a huge scale.

    So Dixie can free itself of BRA, but it can’t free itself of the blacks themselves. Will you be able to re-implement Jim Crow and anti-miscegenation laws in The Cracker States of America?

    This is where the plan falls apart in my humble opinion. Perhaps you need to give them a few states of their own, say Alabama and Mississippi – the two states with the highest percentage of blacks already.

    There are all sorts of reasons why Harold Covington’s vision of a white ethnostate in the Pacific Northwest is unrealistic. There are many good reasons to prefer life in Dixie, especially if you have roots there that go back hundreds of years, or own property there.

    But that doesn’t change the facts on the ground, which is that by staying in Dixie, come what may with the crash of Wall Street, the weakening of Washington, the fall of ZOG, or whatever – you’re still going to be dealing with having a lot of blacks around.

    And, as OD has done such a fine job of showing us that inherently means that you will be dealing with black crime, black dysfunction, black dependency, and black/white miscegenation (something I’m pretty sure CSA already is the leader in).

    It might be a great place to live, but an ethnostate it ain’t.

  28. What is interesting is that Baltimore and Washington are so close as to be considered on metropolitan area.

    What is also interesting is that Washington is more expensive to live in than Baltimore, but the trend in general is that the south is less expensive than the north. This is because of cost of living.

    Washington really is not much of a city. You are correct that it’s population growth is due to transplants.

    What makes a northeastern city distinguishable is that they are very walkable. They were big cities before there were cars. Northeastern cities are also full of rowhomes, except NYC which has giant housing projects.

  29. Jackson,

    Dixie is a de facto ethnostate.

    (1) White Southerners or “Anglo-Celts” or “Americans” or “White people” or “Crackers” or “rednecks” or “hillbillies” are the same people who are overwhelmingly descended from our British ancestors who migrated to this area in the 17th and 18th centuries.

    (2) White Southerners are ethnically, religiously, culturally, and philosophically distinct from other parts of the United States – most of us have ancestors who have been living here for over two hundred years and many if not most of us have ancestors that were here three hundred to four hundred years ago.

    (3) As for blacks, they have always lived here.

    (4) Around 1911, 90 percent of blacks lived in Dixie, whereas in 2011 only about 57 percent of them do.

    (5) Dixie is the only conceivable section of the United States that would ever revolt against BRA because 95 percent of the racial conservatives in the United States live here. There is no constituency for a revolt anywhere else.

    (6) Dixie is already well on the way to reviving Jim Crow. It has been going here since around 2004.

    (7) It was the Jim Crow laws in the South and the North’s policy of integration that attracted millions of blacks there.

    (8) South Carolina and Mississippi used to be majority black – by the 1960s, Mississippi and South Carolina were majority White, and the equivalent of black Mississippi was living in Chicagoland.

    (9) Well, for starters, HAC developed these ideas in Dixie and Ireland before moving to the Pacific Northwest, which for some reason he imagines to be a combination of Dixie and Ireland and Rhodesia, even though nothing about the region suggests this.

    (10) White Southerners are an ethnicity like the Irish or the Quebecois. The same is true of the real Yankees in Maine, Vermont, and New Hampshire. I’ve never heard of anyone refer to Northwesterners as an ethnic group.

    (11) We have only been dealing with blacks for almost 400 years here. It is not like dealing with them for 50 to 100 years will be anything new.

    Central Europe and the Balkans used to be a hodgepodge of ethnic groups. It wasn’t pretty when Yugoslavia broke apart either.

    (12) In HAC’s fantasy world, the Northwest is a White ethnostate, even though (1) Northwesterners are not an ethnicity, (2) Oregon and Washington have the same demographics as Arkansas and Tennessee, and (4) Idaho is a Red State like Montana and Wyoming.

    (13) If the United States really got into serious economic trouble, it is not hard to imagine what would actually happen in the event of a “collapse.”

    If there really was a collapse here, then power would shift back to the state and local level, and America would fracture along ethnic, racial, religious, and cultural lines. In particular, religion and ethnicity would sweep into the vacuum left behind by fantasy ideology.

    What do you suppose would emerge from the wreckage in the South? Suppose for a minute that Washington and New York City destroyed the American economy and black people launched a race war against Whites in Dixie over the demise of the welfare state.

    What would happen then?

  30. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Migration_(African_American)

    The Great Migration was the movement of 2 million blacks out of the Southern United States to the Northeast, Midwest and West from 1910 to 1930.[1] African Americans migrated to escape racism and prejudice in the South, as well as to seek jobs in industrial cities.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Great_Migration_(African_American)

    The Second Great Migration was the migration of more than 5 million African Americans from the South to the North, Midwest and West. It took place from 1941, through World War II, and lasted until 1970.[1] It was much larger and of a different character than the first Great Migration (1910–1940). Some historians prefer to distinguish between the movements for those reasons.

  31. I’m an ecotopian, and I love the area, but the people there are probably too far gone. It has the Whitest large cities in the nation, but the people lack the will to keep it that way. Last time I went through Seattle, every concessionaire I saw in the airport was staffed 100% by non-whites. Mostly Asians, but other groups as well. The city itself is still overwhelmingly White, but PC-propaganda is ubiquitous. There are decent arguments for different regions of the US, but I’m still personally intrigued by the Wyoming/Idaho/Montana areas after Hunter’s pieces on White Zion. Iowa is another place I’ve considered. If we (racially aware Whites) could nail a place down like the Free State Project, I know I’d be personally be willing to migrate.

  32. Hunter Wallace wrote:

    “The vast area that includes Ohio, Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, Michigan, Toronto and the whole Great Lakes area is the core of “America” and will likely emerge from the wreckage as “America.””

    AAAAGGHHHH! I don’t want to live in this place called America! I was born in PA – but I am an Anglo Celt!

    Damn I don’t want to get stuck here….

    FYI – Washington DC is Tel Aviv AKA – filled with Icke’s “Lizard People”. It’s “They Live” meets “Invasion of the Body Snatchers”.

  33. I mean no offense to this blog, which i love, but while I agree with the idea of the “ethnosate” and that sadly, it will probably only in the south were a race realism would catch on. but in my opinion the while “fuck the rest of white yankee america” is disturbing. a southern “christendom” would be a 5th rate power without (at least the midwest). I know this is all theoretics and this is good stuff. your trying to foster a sense of identity for your fellow alabamans and we need to do that here in the north (the foundry, excuse me). all i ask is that once the southern nationalist rebellion succeeds, you’ll launch the “northern expedition” of the 21st century.

  34. It was the WNs who wanted a “White Republic” and a “White ethnostate” …

    http://www.counter-currents.com/2011/09/toward-a-north-american-new-right/

    If we were to take this concept away from the likes of Greg Johnson and bring it down to the level of reality, it logically means that there has to be a “White” ethnicity around which an “ethnostate” could be constructed, and that this ethnicity would need an autonomous sense of racial, ethnic, and cultural identity distinct from being “American,” a secessionist philosophy, serious grievances against Washington, DC, and some kind of racial nationalism that would allow a “White Republic” to be constructed out of the wreckage of the American Empire.

    Of course, I hate to be the one to burst Greg’s bubble, but the “White ethnostate” and the “White Republic” is nothing more than a WN intellectual way of describing a very well known place – which is to say, Dixie – in highly abstract language.

    Just who are the “White people” in North America? The White people are Anglo-Celtic Southerners, the “Crackers” of British ancestry, the rednecks, the hillbillies who live south of the Ohio and Potomac and who have thought of themselves as being “White people” for almost 400 years now.

    We started calling ourselves “White people” because there were so many Africans and Indians here. In the context of Colonial Virginia, the differences between British ethnic groups didn’t seem as large as the racial difference between Indians and Africans.

    Racial identity is meaningful in Dixie because of the presence of racial diversity. It used to meaningful in New England and the Midwest until those areas became more homogeneous and populated by European immigrants who came here after the frontier days.

  35. Where is the White Republic?

    http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?documentprint=76

    “Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth. This truth has been slow in the process of its development, like all other truths in the various departments of science. It has been so even amongst us. Many who hear me, perhaps, can recollect well, that this truth was not generally admitted, even within their day. The errors of the past generation still clung to many as late as twenty years ago. Those at the North, who still cling to these errors, with a zeal above knowledge, we justly denominate fanatics. All fanaticism springs from an aberration of the mind from a defect in reasoning. It is a species of insanity. One of the most striking characteristics of insanity, in many instances, is forming correct conclusions from fancied or erroneous premises; so with the anti-slavery fanatics. Their conclusions are right if their premises were. They assume that the negro is equal, and hence conclude that he is entitled to equal privileges and rights with the white man. If their premises were correct, their conclusions would be logical and just but their premise being wrong, their whole argument fails. I recollect once of having heard a gentleman from one of the northern States, of great power and ability, announce in the House of Representatives, with imposing effect, that we of the South would be compelled, ultimately, to yield upon this subject of slavery, that it was as impossible to war successfully against a principle in politics, as it was in physics or mechanics. That the principle would ultimately prevail. That we, in maintaining slavery as it exists with us, were warring against a principle, a principle founded in nature, the principle of the equality of men. The reply I made to him was, that upon his own grounds, we should, ultimately, succeed, and that he and his associates, in this crusade against our institutions, would ultimately fail. The truth announced, that it was as impossible to war successfully against a principle in politics as it was in physics and mechanics, I admitted; but told him that it was he, and those acting with him, who were warring against a principle. They were attempting to make things equal which the Creator had made unequal.

    In the conflict thus far, success has been on our side, complete throughout the length and breadth of the Confederate States. It is upon this, as I have stated, our social fabric is firmly planted; and I cannot permit myself to doubt the ultimate success of a full recognition of this principle throughout the civilized and enlightened world.

  36. What is a White Republic?

    “We have never dreamt of incorporating into our Union any but the Caucasian race—the free white race. To incorporate Mexico, would be the very first instance of the kind, of incorporating an Indian race; for more than half of the Mexicans are Indians, and the other is composed chiefly of mixed tribes. I protest against such a union as that! Ours, sir, is the Government of a white race…. We are anxious to force free government on all; and I see that it has been urged … that it is the mission of this country to spread civil and religious liberty over all the world, and especially over this continent. It is a great mistake.”
    – John C. Calhoun, 1848

  37. What did Jefferson Davis say in his Inaugural Address?

    “FELLOW-CITIZENS AND BRETHREN OF THE CONFEDERATE STATES OF AMERICA: For now we are brethren, not in name merely, but in fact, men of one flesh, one bone, one interest, one purpose and of an identity of domestic institutions, we have hence I trust a prospect of living together in peace, with our institutions subject to protection not defamation.”
    – President Jefferson Davis

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