Where are the women?
Alabama
Why aren’t more women involved with the White Nationalist movement?
There is a conversation going on about this in the comments. It is such an interesting topic that it warrants a separate thread. Everyone who has attended a White Nationalist conference has noticed that men are always drastically overrepresented.
Why is that?
Dealbreaker #1: Because they are offended by the people who rail against White women on account of their bad experiences with dating and marriage. They shouldn’t have dated women like that anyway, but take out their sexual frustrations on all women with untenable generalizations.
Dealbreaker #2: Because of the HBD cogelite nerds who glorify Asian women and who denigrate White women. This is one of the biggest pet peeves.
Dealbreaker #3: Because of the aura of negativity that surrounds the White Nationalist movement. Most women can’t stand a constant drumbeat of negativity and self consciously avoid demoralizing websites.
Women like to see confidence in men. When they see men who have no confidence in themselves and who preach an “all is lost” political message, they instinctively turn away from a movement that they perceive as a bunch of losers, especially when they encounter a hostile atmosphere on pro-White websites.
Dealbreaker #4: Because White Nationalism attracts a disproportionate number of geeky, socially awkward males who have Asperger’s syndrome or who are creepy in some way as well as the homosexual misogynists who are on the warpath against women.
Dealbreaker #5: Because there is a lot of crossover between the Men’s Rights community and White Nationalism and this is a turn off to women who are culturally conservative and therefore more likely to be Christians.
Dealbreaker #6: Because the vast majority of women who qualify as “traditional” in America are strongly Christian or religious in some way. They are turned off to White Nationalism because of the atheism, misogyny, and lewd discussions about women on White Nationalist websites.
Anyone who goes to church knows that there are far more “traditional” women than men in America. Among women, it is fashionable in some circles to save yourself for marriage, whereas few men think that way these days. A respectable woman is not going to be dressed like a slattern in some bar or club on the weekend.
Dealbreaker #7: Because women will always be less interested in politics than men. White Nationalism focuses heavily on politics and science and less on culture, family, and religion which are subjects which attract more conservative women.
Dealbreaker #8: Because women are more empathetic and are natural conciliators and thus mix like oil and water with the curmudgeons who are drastically overrepresented among White Nationalists.
Dealbreaker #9: Because some White Nationalists practice a type of effeminate political correctness and consciously go out of their way to elevate Asians and Muslims in particular over White Americans.
Feel free to take issue with any of the above positions. I have heard this view about White Nationalism from so many different women on so many different occasions that I am convinced it represents something of a consensus among traditional White women.
I wish someone would test this theory by creating a pro-White website with these dealbreakers in mind: exclude the HBD nerds who glorify Asian women, the negative curmudgeons, the “all is losters,” the creepy weirdos, the embittered misogynists, the effete homosexual intellectuals, and the Neo-Nazi atheists on a jihad against Christianity.
The website would need a good editor that would balance political discussion with a hefty complement of articles about culture, religion, and family. There would also have to be more talk about ethnicity and pocketbook issues.
I would bet money that would solve the problem. In fact, I predict that racially conscious women would start coming out of the woodwork because women are more social than men and would be attracted like moths to a flame to other women who share their views and who are potential friends.
It should be interesting to see what kind of feedback this post receives in the comments. I think I am onto something here.
Note: In recent months, I have noticed that women are more likely to get race through family, culture, and ethnicity whereas men are much more likely to find the abstract arguments more compelling.
Also, I have learned that men are sold on racial identity much more readily through economic appeals, although few White Nationalists make taxing and spending arguments.
With these insights in mind, I have slowly begun to create a new language of racial nationalism that can appeal to a wider audience, especially in the South.
if race is all that matters to them, why do they oppose White men having White babies without them? Answer: race doesn’t matter as much to them as team woman does
@john thames
Just curious, but why do you insist on continuing this petty fight? Everybody has expressed their feelings, aired their grievances, and lit into one another in full. It seems that each time the embers starts to cool on this thread, you show up and dump fuel on it. I’ve stayed out of this, because in my eyes both sides truly have legitimate reasons to be angry at the opposite sex, depressing as that is. But I think any observer will conclude that this discussion is fated for no other outcome than a bitter stalemate. So why keep it up?
Because I love debates – especially when I’m right.
#1 because ignoring it won’t resolve anything. White women need to change, but they will not due to their 100% certainly they are perfect and White men are flawed. Their attitude on this thread is the same attitude they carry into their daily lives with the men in their lives. I pity those men and what free men to see the attitude in full force and to think about how that would impact a life with these kinds of women.
#2 we are not in a stalemate. White men are losing. Every day, the laws are written or tweaked to put us at a disadvantage. White women do not protest these laws. Not even the ones who have only sons. I think that says all we need to know about women. Our culture continues to become more anti masculine. Once again, our women do not protest this. They do not boycott these anti masculine products or advertisers. Instead they are mass consumers of that anti White man culture. What does this say about our “helpmates”?
#3 The idea we need White women in the cause is false. Anything that starts to appeal to women loses the interest of men. That’s easily verifiable with some research. Women will not vote/ act against BRA/WRA in any numbers. Our focus should be on recruiting White men. Show White men their strength, encourage them to demonstrate their strength and power, and White women will follow. Let’s make great White men again, let those White men turn their individual woman to our cause. If that White man is willing to accept the risks associated with women.
#4 White men should know the risk involved. Then they can make their own decision about dealing with women.
#5 This thread shows the true nature of women who are supposed to be pro White men. They are very pro White man, as long as your version of masculinity fits their picture. We cannot allow women to define how men should act in the world. We’ve been doing that for generations now and the results have been shit for everyone.
#6 I enjoy how women recoil at the idea of being replaced as mothers. They don’t recoil at feminism’s attempts at replacing men. I enjoy pointing out the other double standards of women, on this and the other topics that come up. I think it’s useful for men to see them in action and have those actions explained by other men.
#7 We all have our pet issues. On day to day issues, I believe women are our biggest threat. How they support BRA with their votes, how they can make false criminal charges against us with impunity, what their TV viewing habits say about them, they way they divorce us etc etc. It’s not that difficult to move and leave most daily BRA issues behind, but when you do, there will still be all the White women in your life to varying degrees supporting BRA in a myriad of ways.
#8 If tomorrow we woke up and the South was free, with every negro, beaner, gook, yankee etc gone without a shot fired we still have to deal with White women ( and men) indoctrinated to vary degrees with the anti White man feminism. The reality of feminism means relationship between men and women will not return to anything close to historical and healthy norms in our life time. Or in our sons lives. Men must know that reality and deal with it on their terms, not on a woman’s terms
#9 I think this is a very positive message for men who want to have children without the risks and fiscal liabilities of women. Very verifiable risks and liabilities to anyone will to put forth some effort on google
Chris – thaks for being a decent fellow.
Thamsey is a flat out HOMO – and Stoned Loser is NUTS. I think dementia is settling in. He’s still trying to promote White Eggs in alien wombs as a sensible propostion.
I haven’t read any of these latest exchanges, but people are complaining via email, and +400 comments is enough for one discussion.