Idaho Prospects

Idaho

I feel like staying out West this morning. Lest I be accused of hostility toward the Northwest Migration, I want to take a look at Idaho, which is the most promising of the three states Harold Covington includes in the Northwest Homeland.

Idaho is a more attractive destination than its Western neighbors because it favors Wyoming over California. If White Zionists were ever successful in transforming Wyoming into the White Nationalist version of Utah, Idaho would be another candidate for colonization.

(1) Population – In terms of population, Idaho is about three times the size of Wyoming. As of 2009, an estimated 1,545,801 live in Idaho to the 544,270 who live in Wyoming. Both states are dwarfed by neighboring Oregon (3.8 million) and Washington (6.6 million).

There are 70 representatives in the Idaho House and 35 seats in the Idaho Senate. In other words, an Idaho House seat represents 22,802 people and an Idaho Senate seat represents about 44,165 people.

By way of comparsion, a Wyoming House seat represents 9,000 and a Wyoming Senate seat represents 17,000. You should be getting the picture: a White Zionist settling in Wyoming has roughly 3x the impact of a White Zionist moving to Idaho.

The political map in Idaho is not an impossible hill to climb. It is another relatively small state. The slope of the hill is just 3x as steep. Compared to Idaho, Washington and Oregon look like a sheer vertical rock face, especially along the Pacific Coast. White Zionists don’t have anywhere near the numbers to compete in those states.

If you are going to pick Idaho over Wyoming, you will have to bring along two other people for every settler, which is not bad if we assume White families (as opposed to single male vanguardists) are the colonists behind this project.

(2) Demographics – Idaho has similar demographics to Wyoming. Non-Hispanic Whites are 84.5 percent of the population. By comparison, Non-Hispanic Whites are 86 percent of Wyoming’s population. There are 3x more White people in Idaho than Wyoming.

Idaho is also one of the most conservative states in America. 48 percent of Idaho residents identify as “conservatives.” This is roughly the same as Wyoming where 53 percent identify as “conservatives.” There are marginally more SWPLs (15 to 9 percent) and Hispanics (10.7 to 8.1. percent) in Idaho.

Oregon and Washington make the Top 10 list of the most liberal states. 26 percent of Oregon residents and 25 percent of Washington residents are “liberals.” This is the SWPL factor that wrecks the Pacific Northwest model. It is reminiscent of Chicago in Illinois and Philadelphia in Pennsylvania.

These numbers alone don’t give a fully accurate picture of Washington and Oregon: 33 percent and 39 percent of Oregon residents are conservatives and moderates respectively; 33 percent and 38 percent of Washington residents are conservatives and moderates.

Washington and Oregon are Purple States. Wyoming and Idaho are Red States.

Here’s another interesting item: 9 percent of Wyoming residents are “liberals.” That’s the smallest number of liberals of any state in America. 15 percent of Idaho residents are “liberals.” Moderates are 34 percent of the electorate in both Wyoming and Idaho.

Demographically, Wyoming and Idaho are sister states. This suggests the former will share the fate of the latter. If Wyoming were to find itself in a polarizing confrontation with the federal government, the neighboring states would likely take its side.

That’s the importance of Wyoming: it has the most potential of the Western states to act as the fire starter in its region. It is the state most likely to set the dominos in motion. In 1861, South Carolina’s principled stand against the Lincoln administration incited a war that forced Virginia and Tennessee to choose sides.

(3) Nordic Ancestry – The Idaho mix of European ethnicities is comparable to Wyoming. The same people live in both states. This is another line of evidence that Idaho and Wyoming will hang on or go out together.

Wyoming: 25.9% German, 15.9% English, 13.3% Irish, 6.5% American, 4.3% Norwegian, and 3.5% Swedish 3.5%

Idaho: 18.9% German, 18.1% English, 10% Irish, 8.4% American, 3.6% Norwegian, and 3.5% Swedish.

(4) Taxes – I’ve updated the tax rate comparison chart. It now includes Idaho in addition to Wyoming and Washington. As I suspected, Idaho is a low tax state that falls between these two poles. The sales tax hits harder in Wyoming because of the lower median income. Idaho has a state income tax whereas Wyoming doesn’t.

Property Taxes:

Wyoming – $1,012, 1.57% of income
Idaho – $1,213, 2.17% of income
Washington – $2,595, 3.52% of income

Excise Taxes – Cigarettes:

Wyoming – 60
Idaho – 57
Washington – 202.5

Excise Taxes – Beer:

Wyoming – $0.02
Idaho – $0.15
Washington – $0.26

Excise Taxes – Gasoline:

Wyoming – 14
Idaho – 26
Washington – 37.5

State Sales Tax:

Wyoming – 4.0
Idaho – 6.0
Washington – 6.25

State Income Tax:

Wyoming: No State Income Tax
Idaho: 1.6 to 7.8
Washington: No State Income Tax

Idaho’s overall tax burden ranks 46 nationally (out of 51) and 11th regionally (out of the 11 western states).

RANK

Property tax………….. 42;  42.6% below national average
Sales tax……………. 29; 11.8% below national average
Individual income..… 26;  5.9% below national average
Corporate income… 33; 34.4% below national average
Overall ranking…… 46; 26.0% below national average

(6) Grievances – In terms of federal land ownership, Idaho has an even bigger axe to grind against Washington than Wyoming. 63 percent of the land in Idaho is owned by the National Forest Service under the Bureau of Land Management. 5 percent of land is owned by the state government. Only 30 percent of the land in Idaho is open to development by mere plebeians.

(7) Crime – Idaho ranks 45 in the nation in violent crime. It is 47 in property crime, 48 in murder, 14 in forcible rape, 48 in robbery, 34 in aggravated assault, 43 in burglary, 48 in larceny theft, and 47 in vehicle theft. Idaho is a low crime state like Wyoming because the same people live across state lines.

(8) Economy – The economy of Idaho differs significantly from that of its smaller neighbor. Wyoming is an energy state with an economy based on mining. Idaho is an energy poor state that imports all of its natural gas and petroleum. Half of the electricity in Idaho comes from out of state.

Idaho has a big agriculture sector. Everyone in America knows that Idaho is famous for its potatoes. More potatoes are grown in Idaho than in any other state. Lots of wheat is grown there too.

The Gem State also has a big science and technology sector. Idaho is more of a high tech state than Wyoming. It some major industries. Its economy can be subdivided into manufacturing, healthcare, tourism, agriculture, food processing, timber, and mining in that order.

The more diversified economy, well developed urban infrastructure, and the bigger population in Idaho translates into more jobs across a wider range of skill sets. White Zionists who strike out in Wyoming might enjoy more success in relocating to Idaho.

(9) Education – Idaho has gotten some negative publicity for being near the bottom of the national woodpile in per pupil spending, but the high schools in Boise rank among the best in the nation. This is less of a concern to White Zionists than the racial composition of the public schools. Assuredly, they are overwhelmingly White.

Boise State University:

The Boise State Broncos are well known in Alabama. QB Kellen Moore is a top Heisman candidate this year. Boise State is currently vying with Auburn for a shot at Oregon in the BCS National Championship.

(10) The Jewish Question – According to the Jewish Virtual Library, there are about 1,000 Jews in Idaho, which is the smallest number of Jews in any American state. That was five years ago.

Idaho is the sixth fastest growing state in America. Undoubtedly, the number of Jews has ticked up there in recent years. Still, Idaho and Wyoming are neck and neck in the fewest number of Jews on the ground, which is a major point in their favor.

(11) Neighbors – Aside from Wyoming, Montana and Utah are Idaho’s most attractive neighbors, the most likely sites for White Zionists to expand into adjacent territory.

Nevada is a nuclear wasteland dominated by Reno and Las Vegas. Oregon and Washington are dominated by their metropoles like Illinois and Pennsylvania. The “Northwest Migration” is being driven by the wrong kind of White people there.

Utah is showing signs of a willingness to follow in Arizona’s footsteps. The Mormom birthrate is replenishing the population and fending off creeping Hispanicization. Mormons are already the biggest religious domination in Idaho.

Montana is a larger version of Wyoming with a SWPL infestation in Helena. It is still a small enough state for White Zionists to remain competitive there. We will be taking a closer look at Montana in a few days.

(12) Jobs – Idaho has a 8.3 unemployment rate. This is much worse than Wyoming. Unemployment has been creeping upward since 2005. In Wyoming, it seems to be abating.

(13) Fiscal Responsibility – Idaho has a balanced budget amendment in its state constitution. The state is making deep cuts in education spending to keep its fiscal house in order to cover a $340 million dollar budget shortfall.

Meanwhile, profligate Blue States like California have massive holes in their state budgets, and are already looking toward the Obama administration for a bailout. The painful spending cuts in Idaho has only exacerbated its traditional animosity toward Washington and big spending progressives.

(14) Religion – Mormons (23 percent), Evangelicals (22 percent), and Catholics (18 percent) are thick on the ground in Idaho. 18 percent of Idahoans are “unaffiliated” with any religion. Idaho is comparable to Wyoming in non-believers, but Mormons are more numerous than mainline Protestants there.

(15) Anti-Blue – At least for now, Idaho is another inhospitable Red State, but its fast growing population and high tech economy is starting to attract SWPLs to Boise. They have already succeeded in taking over Denver. Likewise, the bigger agriculture sector is drawing more illegal alien farmworkers to Idaho than Wyoming.

In spite of this, the “Red” demographics of Idaho are more comparable to Wyoming than to Washington or Oregon. There are more conservatives and fewer liberals with about the same number of moderates.

(16) Climate – Idaho is less windy than Wyoming. It is not as arid. The maritime influence of the Pacific Ocean results in milder winters. As in Wyoming, Whites are perfectly capable of adapting to the climate. They are already thriving there in cities like Boise and Idaho Falls.

(17) Cities – Idaho has five cities with a population over 42,000. They are all majority White. The surging Hispanic population in Nampa is a cause for concern though.

Boise –  190,122 (population), 87.2% (non-Hispanic White)

Nampa –  68,156 (population), 66% (non-Hispanic White)

Pocatello –  52,910 (population), 87% (non-Hispanic White)

Idaho Falls –  52,148 (population), 85% (non-Hispanic White)

Meridian – 44,962  (population), 92% (non-Hispanic White)

(18) Politics – The political spectrum in Idaho reflects the overwhelming dominance of conservative voters. Republicans have controlled both chambers of the Idaho state legislature since 1958. Both U.S. Senators from Idaho (Jim Risch and Mike Crapo) are Republicans. The Governor of Idaho (Butch Otter) is a Republican. Both House seats are controlled by Republicans.

Unfortunately, Idaho is not Georgia. The business wing of the Republican Party (fueled by the insatiable appetite of Big Ag for cheap labor) is still ascendant there. Earlier this year, Idaho state lawmakers took a shot at passing restrictionist legislation. It was killed in committee by legislators in thrall to business interests.

In the 2010 midterm elections, Raul Labrador (a Puerto Rican born immigration lawyer with the support of the Boise Tea Party), a supporter of amnesty, a guest worker program, and illegal aliens who are “children of God,” defeated Democrat Walter Minnick in Idaho 2. Along with Gene Taylor in Mississippi (who was also defeated), Minnick was the closest thing to a restrictionist in the Democratic Caucus.

Minnick was a casualty of having a (D) beside his name in a Republican landslide year. As we saw in Red Dominion, Virgil Goode in Virginia 5 (a friend of our cause) was a victim in 2008 of the backlash against George W. Bush.

The prospects for “mainstreamers” in Idaho are not as bleak as Labrador’s victory and Mike Jorgenson’s defeat suggests. Idaho is only behind the curve on immigration reform. Just a few years ago, Janet Napolitano was the Governor of Arizona and John McCain and Jon Kyl were working with Ted Kennedy on their amnesty bill.

Larry Craig used to represent Idaho in the Senate before he was disgraced and exposed as a homosexual tapping his foot in a bathroom stall at the Minneapolis-St. Paul airport. Craig had relentlessly pushed the AgJOBs bill on Capitol Hill. His successor Jim Risch, the former Governor of Idaho, has been a relative improvement.

Overall, the Idaho delegation isn’t all that bad on immigration: Sen. Mike Crapo gets an A-, Sen. Jim Risch a B, Walter Minnick a B, and Mike Simpson a B-. It could be much worse. South Carolina sends Jim Clyburn to the House and Lindsey Graham to the Senate.

Governor Otter is supporting Arizona in the federal courts. There are a few solid restrictionists like Mike Jorgenson in the Idaho state legislature. In 2011, they will be taking another shot at Arizona-style immigration reform. We should support their efforts.

In Idaho, “mainstreamers” have a political base to build upon and favorable demographics to work with. It is only a matter of stirring Idahoans from their slumber and purging the traitors like other states have done.

(19) Vanguardists – The vanguardists have been in Idaho for decades now. “Hiding out in a bunker in Idaho” has become a derisive phrase in the movement. Most famously, Randy Weaver had his showdown with the federal government at Ruby Ridge in 1992.

Harold Covington’s whole scheme is based on the “Butler Plan.” Aryan Nations was based out of Idaho from the 1970s until 2001. The SPLC bankrupted the group with a lawsuit. The Aryan Nations headquarters was awarded to the plantiffs and was subsequently burned to the ground and turned into “a peace park.”

At the time of Richard Butler’s death, Aryan Nations had around 200 members worldwide. The group doesn’t seem to have made any lasting in roads into the local population. It later splintered into various factions and faded in the Pacific Northwest under the new leadership.

(20) Scenery – Like all the Western states, Idaho has its fair share of the most spectacular scenery in America. Wyoming has Yellowstone. California has Yosemite. Arizona has the Grand Canyon. Montana has Glacier National Park.

Idaho has Shoshone Falls:

Reflections

If you are determined to move to the Northwest, Idaho is your best bet. If I were moving there, that’s where I would go. Idaho is a solid Red State. White Zionists will have a greater impact there than in Washington or Oregon.

Idaho has most of the advantages of Wyoming: low taxes, low crime, cheap land, decent schools, a fiscally responsible government, no Jews, few blacks, a small and more conservative population, good football, great neighbors, ready made Whitopias, federal land ownership grievances, and lots of great outdoor scenery to explore.

The unemployment rate is a bit higher. There are more Mormons, SWPLs, and Hispanics in Idaho than Wyoming. The business community has the upper hand in the Idaho GOP, but that could change in the next few years.

In some ways, Idaho is a better choice than Wyoming. The climate is better. It is easier to grow food. There is a better water supply. The state has a bigger population, more urban amenities, and a more diversified economy. It will be easier for many White Zionists to settle in Idaho than Wyoming.

Idaho and Wyoming are joined at the hip. Like Alabama and Georgia, it is the same people living across state lines. The similar ethnic makeup of both states, their complementary economies, conservative values, and shared philosophy of government all but ensures these two states will hang together in the long term.

We need to disabuse of ourselves of the notion that one state will secede. When South Carolina seceded from the Union in 1861, Mississippi and Alabama followed in lock step. Political gravity, kinship, economic interdependence, shared culture, and common enemies worked their magic to create the Confederacy.

If the federal government attacked Wyoming, what would the likely response be in Idaho, Montana, and the Dakotas? Probably not unlike that of Virginia, Tennessee, North Carolina and Arkansas in the Civil War.

It only takes one state to spark a constitutional crisis. An amazingly small number of fanatics concentrated in Charleston and the South Carolina low country once blew up the Union through their clever use of disproportionate power, separate state action, and forcing moderates to choose sides. That lesson now seems lost on the White Nationalist movement.

A taste of how the battles lines would shake out can be seen in the response to Arizona’s audacity in challenging the federal government over immigration policy. Whereas Los Angeles launched a boycott of Arizona, the Tennessee state legislature made a point to pass a resolution congratulating the state for taking such a strong stand on border security.

A league of states is already defending Arizona in the federal courts. They include Michigan, Idaho, Alabama, Florida, Nebraska, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas and Virginia. In Covington’s fantasy world, all of America (and much of Europe) has been lost but the Pacific Northwest. That scenario is implausible: the interior states are older and Whiter than the coastal states.

It is much more likely that the “Reds” and “Blues” will part ways over their irreconcilable differences. The “Red” vs. “Blue” dynamic determines the political geography of every state in the Union. In Washington and Oregon, “Blues” in the Seattle and Portland metropolitan areas are sufficient to outnumber and dominate the “Reds” living east of the Cascades.

A “Red” vs. “Blue” split would pair Wyoming with Idaho and the smaller states like the Dakotas in the Interior West. Prying apart Wyoming and Idaho is like trying to separate Alabama and Georgia or Massachusetts and Connecticut. It is not going to happen.

Political tectonics are driving a wedge between Red America and Blue America. The fight for the survival of the White race in North America will be won or lost in the Heartland.

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50 Comments

  1. Excellent regional analysis of white-ethnic and secessionist prospects. Once you link up the high plains states with the southern and southwestern states – this via Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa – you have a vital bloc that can defeat the coastal ethnoid/cosmic white urban agglomorates. This only, however, if all these states have their National Guard units at home and available for use. This then is one issue that we can line with the hardleft on: End the Zionist Wars, bring the troops home….so WE can use them vs. the central regime’s enforcers. I’ll say it again, though: can’t fight defensively when it comes to a fight. Must go into the cities and purge them.

  2. With respect, Mr. Wallace, while I too have flirted with the prospect of separatism, I agree with the late Dr. Francis that separation is not the solution.

    Separation just prolongs the inevitable, and means that we’re simply running from our problems.

    As Dr. Francis points out, the solution is for whites to unapologetically and boldly assert their racial consciousness and foster greater racial unity. The solution is to stand and fight, not run.

  3. For what it’s worth, if a credible movement to form a WN colony in this region were to coalesce I would – given a year or two to prepare – throw my chips in. I was born and raised in the Portland area and I can attest – as others have – that the Willamette Valley is a nearly indomitable nest of delusion and extreme liberalism.

  4. Idaho = catchment area for SWPLs fleeing the vaunted diversity of CA and Portland.

    Outrageously beautiful scenery though. Great climate. Unwhites not in evidence even in downtown Boise.

  5. Political Pessimist,

    Personally, I am not a White Zionist. I plan to stay put in the American South and see what develops here. The only reason I am staying here is ethnic loyalty.

    There are millions of Whites who are not going to uproot themselves to move to the Northwest. Many other White Nationalists can’t afford to move for employment related reasons.

    At the same time, there is a distinct minority of White Nationalists – the White Zionists – who are migratory and willing to pack up their bags to move to another area which more closely resembles their ideal ethnostate. It is a microcosm of the larger White flight phenomenon.

    Those people should move to the Interior West (states like Wyoming, Idaho, Montana and the Dakotas) if they want to have the greatest political impact.

  6. I also think we are in the “Restore America” phase. It makes sense to move to the head of the crowd in such conditions. Should the political environment deteriorate even further, we will be in a position of authority to respond accordingly.

  7. Wyoming and Idaho are too small to secede without significant help from bigger states. “Help” is most likely to come from the South and the Midwest.

    If the Heartland states could only build a viable coalition, they could rule Congress and control the White House, at which point secession would be unnecessary.

  8. What’s wrong with Jews? In my experience they are hard working and law abiding. Sure, they want their promised land, but so do you. The anti semitic tones here makes me sad. Jews are amongst the most productive type of citizen a society could wish for.

  9. WZ is at least a clever use of words to stick it back at the jews for their anti-white behavior. Running off to the mountains to escape the hordes, but to only find yourself immersed in SWPL refugees is a no win situation. Till we stigmatize the psychopaths that ply anti-white rhetoric we will not progress.

    The white liberal teachers of Prince William county Maryland are doing more for whites than the run to the hills and build a plywood cabin types.

    The term is “anti-white” it is our attack phrase.

  10. “What’s wrong with Jews? In my experience they are hard working and law abiding. Sure, they want their promised land, but so do you. The anti semitic tones here makes me sad. Jews are amongst the most productive type of citizen a society could wish for.”

    So we’ve been told. We’re constantly assured by the philo-Semites that without the Jews to bestow civilization upon us and kick around when frustrated, Whites would descend into cannibalism.

    But in Jew-free Wyoming, despite a climate determined to freeze-dry you to death, we’ve got efficient (well, at least by comparison) local and state gov’t, well-maintained roads, lovely homes, low crime, safe schools and the best post-Jewish-Wall-Street-buggered economy in the country.

  11. Martin says:
    November 24, 2010 at 2:06 pm
    What’s wrong with Jews? In my experience they are hard working and law abiding. Sure, they want their promised land, but so do you. The anti semitic tones here makes me sad. Jews are amongst the most productive type of citizen a society could wish for.

    Jack Ryan replies:
    This is a complicated subjected. I would agree there are many decent Jewish people and I think that you will find that O.D. is not in any way a Jew hating site, nor does O.D. blame Jews for all our problems.

    Never-the-less, I suggest you do some research on say vdare.com, amconmag.com and explore in particular the issues of who owns, controls the terrible anti White media in this country – Washington Post, LA Times, CNN, all Hollywood studios, research Neo Conservatism and in particular research who pushes upen borders immigration of the worst of the NW third world.
    Read up on voting records of prominent Jewish American leaders like Jacob Javitz, Arlen Specter, Fuss Feingold (fortunately these folks are gone), Joel Lieberman. Note that American Jewish leaders and Jewish voters are known to be notoriously “liberal” when it comes to Black crime, being 100% against any, ANY expression of pro White RACISM, leading crusades to end White rule in Rhodesia, South Africa, yet these same Jewish leaders/voters turn around and work for Israel to be an all Jewish ethno state. Multi culturalism, race mixing, mass immigration are demanding by Jewish leaders, organizations for White countries, not for Israel.

  12. As a Conservative Idahoan Mormon, you guys will never make it there. Sorry. I don’t think you have any idea what Idahoans or Mormons are all about.

  13. Idaho = catchment area for SWPLs fleeing the vaunted diversity of CA and Portland.

    Outrageously beautiful scenery though. Great climate. Unwhites not in evidence even in downtown Boise. – uh

    I can put up with SWPLs, in exchange for decent climate and beautiful land. I’ve been in MN for awhile so it would basically be a less darkie-infested, lower-tax version of what I’m already used to with better weather. Hmm. Sounding better every day.

    I could also do Wyoming but I don’t mind rural living as much as some here might.

  14. jb says:
    November 24, 2010 at 4:15 pm
    As a Conservative Idahoan Mormon, you guys will never make it there. Sorry. I don’t think you have any idea what Idahoans or Mormons are all about.

    Jack Ryan responds:
    jb please check out my O.D. post:
    Working with White LDS/Mormons –

    http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2010/09/18/hanging-out-with-white-mormons/

    many of us do have a good idea what Western Mormons are like, we like a lot of what we see and we are working with good LDS/Mormons in real, on the ground ways.

  15. >What’s wrong with Jews? In my experience they are hard working and law abiding. Sure, they want their promised land, but so do you. The anti semitic tones here makes me sad. Jews are amongst the most productive type of citizen a society could wish for.

    Many White Nationalists dislike them, because they feature so prominently, among those (whites and non-whites) that oppose white identity politics.

    As for whether they work hard or not, that is irrelevant. The Chinese and Japanese work hard and are not white. Jews are also not white, and have said so:

    Landmark study proves 90% of Jews are genetically linked to the Levant
    http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/landmark-study-proves-90-of-jews-are-genetically-linked-to-the-levant-1.295231

    In my opinion if they want to stop being disliked, they should cease meddling in White affairs and go to their ethnostate.

  16. JB – why don’t you read Jewish literature, and study the reasons why the Tribe has gotten booted out of 109 nations, over a period of 2000 years, before you ask why we “…don’t like Jews”?

    Ask, instead, “Why are Jews so hateful and malicious towards Gentiles, especially White Christian Gentiles? Why have they spent century after century attacking every host nation they infiltrate?”

    [The above] are the salient questions.

  17. …The anti semitic tones here makes me sad. Jews are amongst the most productive type of citizen a society could wish for. – Martin

    Wow, “most ‘productive” type of citizen?!?

    Martin must be an expert in ‘Madoff Mathematics’

    *I take it that what you really mean to say is that they have a right to disproportionately take away money, power and resources from other ethnic groups.

  18. “What’s wrong with Jews? ”
    Ah, that is THE question: What the hell is wrong with Jews? Is it their monumental egos? Is it their desire to dominate the world? Is it their instigating nature, the fact that they are at the center of most international intrigues? Perhaps it is their control-freak nature or their need to amass vast amounts of wealth at the expense of others (usury)? Could it be that they look down upon the rest of humanity from their pedestal? Their need to remake our civilization in their own image of what it should be? Or could it be all of these things? For clear insight into the nature of this eternal question I would suggest reading “You Gentiles” which was authored by a Jew named Maurice Samuel.

  19. I visited the US for the first time earlier this year. I’m a Mormon convert so visited Utah, Idaho, Montana and Spokane WA.

    Idaho is like a better version of Utah, Boise is much Whiter than SLC and has a better climate from my point of view (I lived in Ireland for thirteen years and England for nine years).

    I spent eight years in South Africa and Utah is as hot as the Transvaal.

    What I loved about Boise, was not seeing many Blacks at all, not too many spics either, even the motel cleaners were White Anglo. The Tater tots were amazing, never seen those anywhere else.

    Boise is a lot like a Continental European small city, loads of people cycling, enjoying coffees on sidewalks etc. I really liked it.

    How do we stop SWPLs from infesting Boise? It struck me as the kind of place they also might migrate too

  20. Martin says: “What’s wrong with Jews? In my experience they are hard working and law abiding.”

    There is no anti-semitic tone here. The site contains fair, reasonable, and if anything far too mild criticism of Jews. But, speaking only for myself, when I refer to “the Jews,” I usually mean it as shorthand for elite organized Ashkenazi Jewry. To learn the answer to your question “whats wrong with the Jews,” I would suggest you start by reading some Martin Luther, Israel Shahak, and Kevin MacDonald with an open mind.

  21. I just drove across Idaho last August and made the unfortunate decission to stop for the Night in Caldwell Idaho, between Boise and the Oregon line. The Motel was a dump an in the morning the town looked like a little LA barrio, Mexicans everywhere including goofing off at the Motel Desk. I should have chugged on for another 15 minutes to Boise. The Potato Farms in the Snake Valley attract migrant farm workers. Boise looked like a big city, certianly a viable place to find a job. Heading east from Boise there is nothing for about 70 miles then you enter another agricultural area that runs from Twin Falls to Burley to Pocatello. This is the Mormon sector. The Wasatch Front Range runs along I-15 up into Idaho and that area is culturaly a part of Utah. The Idaho Panhandle is where the “bunker” types were, that area is very remote from the population base and a satellite of Spokane. What comes to mind of my drive is the vast flat, sage vistas along I-84 where you were impressed by the long Union Pacific trains rolling along full of coal. All I though was how peaceful it would be to travel by train in the old days with sleeper cars like DeNiro and Grodin in Midnight Run.

  22. Hunter should analyze Nebraska as another state that has sane effective (unicameral) state government. Omaha is reputed to be one of the easiest places to find a job, particularly if you have a proffesion as “SWPL” types feel they are “too good” to live in the cornbelt.(That is the whole theme of a subplot in Up In The Air where the snotty girl moves to San Francisco in the end.)

    Portland is the setting for the Gus Van Zandt films such as Drugstore Cowboy that shows that the far west coast with it’s mild climate, has always been the last stop for the derelict, worst of the white population. Portland liberals are not as much yuppies as drug addled bums, houses of unrelated white 20 somethings with facial piercings. One movie that I thought was SPOT ON in depicting the type of inhabitants of the near East side of Portland is the low budget mess called Bongwater starring Luke Wilson, Alicia Witt (the grownup child actress who played Alia in David Lynch’s Dune–1984) the late Brittany Murphy, and the unfunny Jack Black. The only thing missing from that portrayal of the migration of lost youth to Portland was the casual attitude towards illegitamacy amongst white women out there. I moved there in 1998 and it was a major culture shock from the white Chicago suburbs where even in the 90’s having illegitamate kids was considered “scummy” amongst most of the white youth, only the “burnouts” in LD did that. Van Zandt’s movies are even bleaker, focusing on the downright homeless youth in the Northwest. They are all over downtown Portland, especially Pioneer Square and the Burnside Bridge pan handling anyone who appears to have a job. What I heard is there is a transient population of drug addicted youth who move up and down I-5 from LA to Vancouver BC due to tolerent liberals running the towns and the warm climate that doesn’t kill them when they sleep under the bridge. It’s a sad sight, unlike the mostly black or Santa Clause white type bums you see back east, these are young kids(often from red states) who migrate to the far West as their Zion.

  23. What’s wrong with the Jews? Get your google out and check these things.
    What proportion of Hollywood studio heads and producers are Jews?
    What proportion of Federal Reserve bankers are Jews?
    What proportion of the money given to the Democratic Party comes from Jews?
    What proportion of money given to the GOP comes from Jews?
    Start looking and decide for yourself. Jews either outright control or have grossly disproportionate influence over (amounting to a veto) the economy (Bernanke, Geithner, Sumner, and most of the great swindlers of the last 30 years), the media (film, tv, music, and news), education (teacher training and teacher unions), the political parties, the legal profession (3 Jews on the Supreme Court, heads of the most prestigious law schools, the ACLU, and Jewish lawyers everywhere), the universities (professors and administrators).
    Just start looking at the institutions that have betrayed their nation, and you will find lots and lots of Jews. Don’t trust me, do your own search.
    And keep in mind that Jews were the core of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, and every other Communist group in Europe and the U.S. Their hatred of the non-Jewish masses was demonstrated for all the world to see in the 20s and 30s. Marxism, liberalism, or Neo-conservatism, the common thread is the Jewish drive for power over the Goyim, us.

  24. Langoboard: I think it’s a list of civilization’s victories in the endless war against parasites and exploiters. We should always ask ourselves: “Is it bad for the Jews?”

  25. @langobard: the point is, if Jewry has been “persecuted” at so many times and places, across so many cultures and value systems, if there has been place after place after place where there was no “antisemitism” until Jews arrived…then maybe there is a reason for it all: Jewish phenomena. Like: getting rich while impoverishing almost everything else via debt creation, usery, pyramid scheming, and currency destruction. Let’s see…when did this last happen…ah, just look around. Like: fomenting wars for their own tribal aggrandizement while destroying the lives of millions of others….like, ah…right now. Turning legal systems into kosher crime lobbies. Turning a Culture of Life into a Hollywood-driven culture of death: abortion, porn, homosex, euthanasia, stem cell, pedophilia, bestiality, etc. Just look around. Conversely, go somewhere where there are not now nor have there ever been any Jews: no “antisemitism”.

  26. What is SWPL? Anyway thanks for the information on Idaho. My wife and I are looking to move there from Arizona. I am a little confused what Mormon’s have to do with any of this though. I am Mormon and I don’t understand why we are placed in a sentence next to Hispanics. I think a lot of our religion is compatible with the ideas I read on this site.

  27. The thing that irritates me about Jews and WN, is all you have to do is mention them and many WNs will forget what they were supposed to be talking about and start obsessing on Jews.

    So I have often wondered if it has been a deliberate strategy of the Jewish elites, to always make their people the center of our attention.

    When you consider that Jews are only 13 million world wide, I wonder what would happen if WNs made it official policy, to shun them and refuse to talk about them.

    Would they fade away?

  28. DingoBob: No, Jews would not fade away if we never spoke of them. In fact, one of their strongest weapons is that nobody but us talks about them except on their own terms. Simply pointing out the facts of Jewish dominance of the U.S., their grossly disproportionate representation on Wall Street, in the media, in law, in politics, in education, is taboo. They like it that way.

  29. I need to notify Pastor John Britton to write up a piece as to how wonderfool Ida-ho is.

    Back in the 1970s, when all the Christian Identity types like the Brittons and Pastor Butler left California, it was Mormon heaven. Today, especially around Boise and North Idaho, it is gliberal whigger Californicated shithole. Edgar Steele, along with Butler doesn’t have a chance if it goes to trial in Coer D’Alene and not much more chance if it goes to trial in Boise. That’s why the best favor I can do for the Whigger Whimperer is to tell all and sundry that Edgar Steele isn’t Christian Identity and never was an Aryan Nations member, and that some of us actually think Edgar Steele did a sort of piss-pore job of what was really a hopeless case. All the damned pigs know if you are ‘one of them wild-eyed CI types’ and so you need to keep a low profile when at all possible. Something to keep in mind if you move in from out of state. Western Montana is much cheaper and better.

    Pastor John Britton will tell you about how the first state governor of Idaho was a jew. You see, all the Esther-kikesses like Jewsephine Marcus, the humper of Wyatt Earp, were selling their honey-gulches in the whorehouses to the stupid hybernigger miners. As a result the jews have been living off the whiggers since before statehood. There are a lot more than a 1,000 jews living off of the stupid whiggers in Ida-ho

    Zoning regulations, and a limited space for agriculture as the Mormon farming areas are overtaken by California refugees have made Ida-ho a not so great place to live. Besides, everything is so expensive. I remember these people who used to live in Pocatello who moved to Pocahontas, Arkansas back in 1994. Why? Because it cost only 60% or less to live in Arkansas compared to Idaho.

    When I was driving a truck, I seen no shortage of greasers working in the potato processing plant in Nampa. John Britton says that the whiggresses there are mudsharking with the beaners, same as in Missouri.

    And talk about the legal system. Idaho is the only place I’ve ever heard that if you are a civil defendant, you have to pay in order to defend against a plaintiff’s judgment. I was helping out John’s sister’s husband against a jew lawyer running a collection agency who bought a bogus account receivable from a health-club when the husband decided not to join the health club. I gave them some advice as how to demand a jury trial and traverse it to federal kort so as to get Federal Trade Commission consumer protections. But I heard that the whigger split-tail municipal jewdge gave a summary judgment on behalf of the jew lawyer and threatened the defendant with jail for even contesting the matter.

    What needs to be in the mind of all White Nationalists is not how likely it is to try the impossible of peaceful secession, but rather how many whiggers, muds and jews are necessary to exterminate. Kill enough of them using the oncoming civil war as a free-fire pretext, and when the rest of the whiggers are begging to live, then you can do whatever you want with them all.

    Insofar as what is wrong with jews, well, they are the misbegotten spawn of Satan, descended from Cain, Satan’s son. jews can’t help but be evil and since there is no place for jews in a Godly White society, the sooner you figure out that the only good jew is a dead jew, the better and sooner the rest of the whiggers left alive will figure out what’s up, straighten out and fly right.

    There are more trees in Idaho than in Wyoming, though.

    Hail Victory!!!

    Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt
    Church of Jesus Christ Christian/Aryan Nations of Missouri
    http://cjcc-an.blogspot.com/

  30. Solutrean Social Club: thanks for explaining. I think there are probably lots of individual Mormons who embrace multiculturalism but I do not think it is LDS Church policy to embrace multiculturalism. Consider how important heritage is to the Mormons, who forever map out their genealogies and celebrate their ancestors pioneer spirit. Also the LDS Church does make it a policy of being proud of ones heritage and culture. I think the Mormons will actually be fertile recruiting grounds if you stick with the love your race angle and don’t come off as just a hateful person. Show them why you love your race so much and they will later be willing to hear why we should preserve it. Anyway I am not trying to convince anyone that the LDS Church is cool, to each their own.

    I still have no idea what SWPL is. Anyone care to enlighten me?

  31. Passerby, I think SWPL = single, white, professional, liberal – but I could be wrong. I’ve been trying to decipher the short-hand, too.

  32. SWPL is Stuff White People Like. It’s a website that mocks White liberals for their patronizing attitudes towards Blacks. I gather that the intent is to get Whites to treat Blacks as real equals, rather than dropping the pretense and becoming racially aware in thought as well as action.
    Hypocrisy has always been the nice White liberals weak point, they talk integration but live segregation. We want to get these people to bring their thoughts and words in line with their behavior. SWPL wants them to bring their deeds in line with their words.

  33. SWPL is short for “Stuff White People Like.” It is a website and a book about affluent leftist libtard White people from places like San Francisco, etc. This blog likes to use the acronym as shorthand for these people.

    I prefer the term used for these people by the bloggist of Stuff Black People Don’t Like; DWL or DISINGENUOUS WHITE LIBERALS. Don’t let the title of the blog mislead you. The blog is obviously NOT written by a black person, but by a very disgruntled White racial realist. He covers a lot of things that piss off blacks and uncovers a lot of their racial hustles.

    One of his most elightening blogs was where he addressed the “never-ending question, ‘and then….?'” This is where he made it clear that blacks would never stop shaking down whites for more of everything as long as they had anything to shake down.

    In any case, the SBDL Bloggist prefers to call SWPLs by the more correct term of DWLs or Disingenuous White Liberals, which I feel is far more accurate. They like to live in expensive, lily-white, gated communities while engaging in competitive altruism against poorer, working-class white people, making sure they bear the brunt of living with diversity and multiculturalism.

    Blacks are all too well aware of this hypocrisy and despise them for it and so should all white people.

  34. Passerby

    I recently converted to LDS.

    In England, the missionaries target Chinese and non-White refugees for conversion. They are speaking with a black zimbabwean woman on the Council Estate (Government provided housing) nearish to my house. As someone who used to live in South Africa it makes me angry. It also is against the fair and delightsome verses in Nephi.

    I think there are many in the LDS heirarchy who target non-whites for conversion, I believe the Church is big in South America, Polynesia and the Philippines.

    In Europe, they target ethnics for conversion because most Whites here aren’t interested in religion. In Dublin, Ireland they have a immigrant (read n*gger) only ward.

    In Madrid, Spain I visited a ward that was full of mestizos and other non-whites.

    In the US, I know there are a lot of really good, conservative, implicitly White Saints. I visited some wards like that. It’s just a pity the Church isn’t like that in Europe.

    WPWW

  35. Dermot Walsh,
    >I think there are many in the LDS heirarchy who target non-whites for conversion

    The problem with religions and organizations, is once they start acquiring staff, assets and taxing their followers, their priority changes from the people they are supposed to be administering to, to that of self preservation.

    So the reason all of the big organized religions are converting non-Whites and campaigning for them to be brought into White nations, is to maintain revenues, so they can continue to finance their dependents and assets.

    In my opinion this issue should be discussed by those creating a White homeland. If religions are banned from taxing or acquiring physical assets, this may prevent them entering the cycle of betrayal they are in now.

  36. DingoBob

    I think that the non-whites far from contributing revenues actually receive money raised from the White members, ie spics and refugees using the Church to find work, get free food etc

    Also, in England, I have seen some negroes with White women within the Church. Disgraceful and still “officially discouraged” but I’ve never heard anyone in England discourage it. It’s a complete 180 from everything LDS should stand for.

    Having said all of that, I vastly prefer being LDS to being any other religion or atheist. The perfect isn’t the enemy of the good for me, I don’t see any better alternatives religiously speaking.

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  37. Hunter Wallace says:

    “SBPDL is a friend of mine. I know him well.”

    Please tell him I think he’s a freakin’ genius. I think his term DWL (Disingenuous White Liberal) is dead-on. And as I said, I loved the “never-ending question” post.

    That term he came up is a great example of the use of semantics in conveying an implicit White Nationalist message to unawakened Whites.

    For example, Tim “Tick Tock” Wise is a prime example of a DWL. Technically, he’s considered White by Jews, because his mother is not a Jew, so he can get up there and publicly identify as White when he gives his “White Privilege” mea culpas but in those rare moments when he thinks his target audience (gullible Whites) are not listening, he will admit that he self-identifies as and with the Jew.

    Now, when one of the DWLs gets up and blathers their PCrap, savvy WNists who have left no paper trail can get out there and call him or her out as a DWL, then that will be the red flag for the White listener to take a critical look at the messenger before heeding the message. Nine out of ten times, the surname of Chosenstein or Chosenberg or Chosenowitz will be the tip-off, but if the DWL’s surname isn’t enough, then his or her party affiliation or zip code should provide the clue.

    I love it when talk radio picks up WNist concepts and spouts them, but they only do it if the language is aracial enough. “Alienated elite” was a term that I believe, was started by Kevin McDonald and that got quickly disseminated. I also think “DWL” and “the never-ending question” can also get out there without making squeamish or skittish White listeners tune out.

    That is why it is important as hell to find a way to make WNist terminology as implicit and aracial as possible. What I love about implicit, aracial language is that anyone who tries to accuse the speaker of racism looks like they are engaging in the thought crime themselves, in a “guilty dog barks first” kind of way.

  38. Denise says: “…[W]hy don’t you study the reasons why the Tribe has gotten booted out of 109 nations, over a period of 2000 years, before you ask why we “…don’t like Jews”?

    Wow! That many?

    To make a good case that Izzy is Trouble one only needs that single factoid to convince a reasonable person.

    To a reasonable person, a cowpoke who gets kicked out of a saloon or two might get away with saying the saloon-keepers were prejudiced against him, or even against cowpokes. It’s possible.

    But 109 saloons? That cowboy is definitely Trouble and his reputation for such precedes him everywhere he goes. Unless, of course, there is some unmanly prohibition against naming him and warning other drinking parlors of the trouble he brings. That would be stupid. No reasonable person would go along with such a goofy rule as that. You’d think.

  39. Passerby, I think SWPL = single, white, professional, liberal – but I could be wrong. I’ve been trying to decipher the short-hand, too.
    Gerard Bonneau

    I’ve been told, after suggesting that this term is confusing, that it will keep being used here.

    More proof that this site isn’t interested enough in the mainstream to tone down its expressive individualism.

  40. Langoboard: I think it’s a list of civilization’s victories in the endless war against parasites and exploiters. We should always ask ourselves: “Is it bad for the Jews?” – Discard

    @langobard: the point is, if Jewry has been “persecuted” at so many times and places, across so many cultures and value systems, if there has been place after place after place where there was no “antisemitism” until Jews arrived…then maybe there is a reason for it all: Jewish phenomena. Like: getting rich while impoverishing almost everything else via debt creation, usery, pyramid scheming, and currency destruction. Let’s see…when did this last happen…ah, just look around. Like: fomenting wars for their own tribal aggrandizement while destroying the lives of millions of others….like, ah…right now. Turning legal systems into kosher crime lobbies. Turning a Culture of Life into a Hollywood-driven culture of death: abortion, porn, homosex, euthanasia, stem cell, pedophilia, bestiality, etc. Just look around. Conversely, go somewhere where there are not now nor have there ever been any Jews: no “antisemitism”. – Compassionate Fascist

    Oh, don’t get me wrong guys, I understand and agree with what you are saying here.

    It is just that the link provided by ‘Jen’ –

    http:www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/HistoryJewishPersecution

    …seems to be very Zionist and solipsistically apologetic toward any Jewish complicity for the reason’s they were expelled from 109+ countries over the millenia.

  41. You are all Crazy!!! You have no idea about the LDS Religion. Even those of you who say you are Mormon, and then talk about how sad it is that the church embraces teaching other races, have no idea about your own church. You give the curch a bad name. We believe that all races are God’s children and that everyone desrves the right to hear the gospel and decide for themselves. I served a mission in Japan and the members there are far greater saints than Mr. Dermot Walsh. This group, whoever you are, disgust me. I think you are all just lacking in your own self-confidence that you have to lash out at other races to make you feel better. Oh and I am a white married male who is very conservative. I believe, as does the Mormon church, that all men are accountable for their own sins… we don’t group people into one category and then condemn them, we believe in individual salvation where every individual has to decide for themself.

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