I suspect most of us posting on Occidental Dissent are looking to find a group of…..
nice White folks.
Sure, we have strong beliefs on political and social “issues” – but a main reason we are involved with White Nationalism is that we just want to belong to some group of nice White people – to be in a place where no one is yelling at us, lecturing us, insulting us, threatening us, trying to re-educate us, or incite our children to hate us. Let’s face it, when we turn on the television, go to a Hollywood movie or hang out with most Liberal Democrat groups, we don’t feel that we are among friends. We feel that we are in hostile places, with hostile people that hate us.
So where do we go to find a community of “nice people” that like us, that are “like us”?
One place I went was to:
the Mormon Church.
Though I knew something about the Mormon theology and the turbulent history of the Mormons (persecution, migration from the Mid West to Utah), what attracted me to the Mormon Church was that I noticed:
There sure are a lot of good looking, Mormon White folks!
And it is true that the Mormon Church, or (as they preferred to be called now) The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints/LDS is a very White Church. It has a White racial history – Blacks were not allowed to hold the LDS Priesthood until the late 1970s and the Book of Mormon contains lots of passages that would be considered very “Racist” by today’s PC standards.
Another reason I decided to check out the Mormon/LDS church was that I came in contact with some bright, enthusiastic, well scrubbed, nicely dressed, White Mormon Missionaries, that were actually walking the streets of an inner city, university community I was living in at the time.
Sure, I wanted to check out the LDS church of “Donny and Marie Osmond”, the church of BYU University – I always noticed those very White BYU football and basketball teams giving the Black (criminally inclined) football and basketball college powers a good contest. When I was a public school teacher in Brooklyn, some of my Black students called me “BYU” because I looked like the White BYU basketball players they saw on TV.
After 10 years of association with Mormons and the Mormon/LDS Church I will share these observations.
1) Yeah, there are lot of really nice, good looking White folks in the LDS church – particularly in Southern California and the mountain/desert West.
2) Mormons are really good at getting young White couples to get married early (in college) and have large families, with really beautiful White children.
3) Mormons have lots of very good practices, rules – they are very good at organizing their members, giving them things to do.
4) You see little or no bad Leftist, anti White politics inside any LDS – Mormon Church. In fact the LDS church prohibits political campaigning in church, and that’s really nice – no preachy Leftists lecturing the congregation about the supposed sins of Racism or the last PC lib cause.
5) White Mormons are really good at sports – provide lots of opportunities for basketball, tennis, ultimate frisbee activities.
6) There is little or no LDS women (White) doing male bashing – Mormon women have lots of things to do in Church, but (White) men run the ceremonies and have the authority and Mormon women/LDS women seem very happy to have (White) husbands, children and accept their traditional female roles.
All those things I listed are very good. But it’s not perfect from a WN perspective.
The worst news is that the Mormons/LDS church has embraced the Christian mission to share the Mormon Gospel…..
With the entire world! The part in the New Testament about the Christian mission to “spread the gospel to all nations”, this type of thinking and acting really gets our White race/culture in to lots of trouble – and the Mormons are now doing just that, spreading their Mormon/Christian gospel to all nations (don’t worry the Muslims don’t let them in to their countries), but there are Jewish converts/conversos who I spot right away, and these Jewish Conversos seem to do what they do. LDS Sen. Harry Reid – the Dem Senate Majority Leader has a Jewish converso wife and I am sure she’s one of the reason he does terrible stuff like push through the ADL Federal Hate Crime Bill, work for amnesty for millions of hostile, non White illegal aliens etc.
Sadly, most Mormons/LDS church members in the world are no longer White. Hispanics really go for joining the LDS church in Central and Latin America – many see joining the LDS church as a way to join the nice, healthy, prosperous White American world. Lots of Pacific Islanders – huge Samoans join the LDS, Mormon Church. And Mormons tend to be very defensive about their controversial “RACIST” past and enjoy being more accepted by mainstream (liberal, Jewish, race mixing) American society.
Also, Mormons tend to not be very intellectual – choosing to being honest, have “family values” – they try to be nice and get along with everyone. So, don’t expect many White Mormons to get involved in contentious arguments with Jews over World War II, Communism etc. The current top Mormon – Prophet Monson, seems like a total, boring stiff.
Mormons seem to have no clue about “the Jews”, have no history of ever being in conflict with Jews as White Catholics from the old country have had. And since only terrible, close living with American criminal Blacks can turn a generally “nice” White person in to a RACIST against Blacks, most Mormon Whites are not going to want to fight, or be able to handle very hostile Black criminals. LDS Mormons have never lived in rough, racially mixed Northern Cities or the America South where there are lots of criminal, hostile Blacks. The Book of Mormon Plates were supposedly found in Up-State New York, the new church and their converts moved to the rural Midwest – Illinois, Ohio and Missouri then the church was brutally persecuted there and the Saints moved across the Plains to Utah… all these places were very, very White, and for the most part, they are still very White. Mormons tend to prosper and grow in White places.
So the downside is that White Mormons are generally doing pretty well these days and don’t like to rock the boat – they are patriotic Americans; while they were once being brutally persecuted by “America” and Mormons had virtually their own separate (all White) Mormon nation. Now the mainstream Mormon/LDS Church has gone “mainstream” and the Church is desperately trying to win the acceptance, approval of mainstream Christian churches like the Baptists, who hate the Mormon/LDS church, accuse it of being a non Christian cult, stupid squables like that.
I think most of us involved in American White nationalism would like for the Mormons or any White group to start thinking, working to separate themselves from very corrupt race mixed, Jew dominated America and stop being so patriotic and loyal to America. But mainstream Mormons aren’t going to do that now, as things stand.
But, Mormons haven’t give up all their independent old ways – as they teach very practical ways of self reliance, food storage, have their own social welfare system that provides food and jobs for their members in need.
I have had good success making friends and contacts in the Mormon church, but I don’t do open, White racial activism and know this would be a bad idea.
Instead, I simply am honest and give positive feedback to all the really good things White Mormons do. And when something comes up like the huge propaganda campaign to help/save all the poor, suffering Black victims of the earthquake in Haiti – I do share some words of caution, tell them that nice LDS folks should learn more about the historical realities of places like Haiti and not try to bring back every poor, diseased person from the Third World in to America. I also present the idea that America has lots of people here now that need help, and Mormons should consider sending their missionaries to places like rural Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, UP Michigan – learn to be as good at hockey as the Mormons are at basketball and football.
The Atlantic Magazine listed Mormons as the most “Conservative” religious community in the USA ( The Mormons: The Most Conservative Religious Group In America )
So, it’s generally OK to work for Conservative political issues, campaigns that work OK/well for White Nationalists – same as Conservative politics from the Nixon/Reagan years tended to be White, more more favorable to our White people/culture than the Lib/Min/Leftists.
So there is lots of good news for racially conscious Whites in the Mormon church as it stands now in 2010 – the best being that White Mormons have the highest birth rate of any White group in America with the possible exception of the Amish.
And the main danger/problem with the Mormon church is the problem that all successful (White) Christian churches have: they want to go out and help, SAVE, every single non White person in the world, convert them, share the true gospel etc. This means suicide for our race if they actually do this in places like Nigeria, Haiti, El Salvador.
My take on this is that huge numbers of Mestizo Hispanics and Pacific Islanders will convert to the Mormon Church with the idea of crashing in to America/White Mormon society – but few Blacks will come in. The moral restrictions are too tough for almost all Blacks and also Blacks can’t sit still for 3 hours in calm, White Mormon church activities, Blacks like to jump around and shout in church and at the end of the day, even super nice White Mormon families don’t like to hang around large, Black urban areas – they won’t say they avoid the areas because they are “Racist” – they just want to be in a safe, child friendly community – and that’s not East St. Louis, Memphis.
So, to sum up this essay on the Mormons/LDS Church – I would say that if you are looking to be in/around a “Christian” church with lots and lots of very nice White folks – yes, check out the Mormon LDS Church. Be honest that you respect their pro family policies and their healthy activities and tell them you heard lots of positive things about Mormons being…
The Mormon/LDS Church has many of the strengths and weakness of other once, prosperous, White Christian Churches. If you haven’t given up on “Church” – give the Mormon/LDS Church a try.
(And leave racial activism and most politics out of the LDS church buildings)