A New Nation Is Finding It Can Speak

With the successful launch of Alternative Right, the old split between the neo- and the paleo-conservatives was laid to rest. What many of us felt was coming, finally happened. There now exists a very real and very serious split between conservatives who remain firmly emotionally, spiritually and intellectually attached to the United States and those whose attachment has transferred from that nation state to the people who formed that nation state to protect and defend their natural rights and liberties: the European-American people of North America.

The latter was so long associated with the former that it still seems absurd to many Americans to speak of the two as having dissimilar interests, let alone clashing interests. Nevertheless, what was once a tiny fringe has become, if not a mass movement, a much larger fringe.

But it is not the size of this fringe but its quality and character that is important. When one looks at small movements that were harbingers of grand change in the past one notices certain commonalities. Expression of a valid nationalistic ideal, appeals to a common heritage, rejection of current politics in favor of an entirely new polity based on a new understanding, wit, passion and, most of all, the ability to reject the status quo as out of date and already dead convincingly.

In that sense, the war has already been won. While superficially the American state appears beyond challenge and is actively spreading its radical egalitarianism in all corners of the world, the reality on the ground is that the backbone of the country which works and produces to provide such fiscal, moral, legal and military power has also been scheduled for destruction by the power that relies upon it.

It is really no more complicated than that. The liberal state is driven to destroy what makes it and its illusions possible by an almost mechanistic impulse.

And as this has become more clear, we now see with the rise of the Euro-American nationalist right as a new virtual community the first post-American rightist opposition to the current system.

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The ability to take the huge mental step and declare the current government a failed experiment is extremely powerful and liberating. It enables one to take a long view and take comfort in the fact that while we are writing and speaking in a dark time for our people, we are also now laying the base for the nation to come, the first stirrings of a new nation in the New World.

Take heart, we are just finding our voice.

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140 Responses to A New Nation Is Finding It Can Speak

  1. Lady Lurker says:

    @Mike in Indiana

    That is priceless. ROTFLMAO

    It appears Tom Watson aka Old Dutch is the laughing stock of multiple WN websites.

    I wonder did they ban him for being a jew troll or did he realize the gig was up before he changed his name and slithered over here….LOL! LOL! LOL!

  2. Sam Davidson says:

    @Whites Unite
    You can make anything look successful if you ignore their decline, which is what you’re doing with liberal democracies. I’m not particularly optimistic about our future and I suspect that in the coming centuries the White population that created these liberal democracies will have died out or been miscegenated beyond recognition. So, if you focus on the early stages of the United States and ignore their inability to protect its own people from genocide and race-replacement, it’s been a stupendous success. Otherwise, liberal democracy will probably be looked upon by future historians as the most foolish experiment in the history of mankind.

    @Jonathan,
    The beginning of what thing? What are you talking about?

  3. Jonathan says:

    @ 102 Sam Davidson
    “The beginning of what thing? What are you talking about?”

    Cultural Marxism and all the attendant movements based in the metaphysic of force of anti-theism, given force by Darwin’s theory of evolution. And not to say that this was Darwin’s motive. Darwin appears to have been genuinely motivated as a scientist; but his work has been misused by progressives.

  4. Jonathan says:

    The West today is not the religious ethic of Judaism and Christianity but the civic ethic of the ancient Greeks. For the Greeks, the political was all. What you did in your private life was up to you. Sexual life was the pursuit of desire. Abortion and euthanasia were freely practised. The Greeks produced much of the greatest art and architecture, philosophy and drama, the world has ever known. What they did not produce was a society capable of surviving. The Athens of Socrates and Plato was glorious, but extraordinarily short-lived. By now, by contrast, Christianity has survived for two millennia, Judaism for four. The Judeo-Christian ethic is not the only way of being moral; but it is the only system that has endured. If we lose the Judeo-Christian ethic, we will lose the greatest system ever devised for building a society on personal virtue and covenantal responsibility, on righteousness and humility, forgiveness and love.

  5. Mike in Indiana says:

    @Lady Lurker

    They never banned him, LOL. He was harassed mercilessly until he started whining like a little bitch and left. LOL.

    Say, didn’t he say he was from the south on this site, LOL? Elsewhere, he said he was from Ohio. Maybe he means southern Ohio. LOL.

    He can teach us about the Dirty Dago and Irish Roman Catholic conspiracy, LOL. And their propensity for Mexican women’s hairy black snappers, LOL. No, wait, that’s HIS propensity for hairy Mexican snapper, LOL. My bad, LOL.

    He has problems. LOL.

  6. Lady Lurker says:

    @Mike in Indiana

    I knew he was lying about being a Southerner!

    In reading that link, it sounds like he’s saying he’s from Ohio, but I didn’t read them all. He also claims to be descended from the founders. LIAR. LOL

    It was definitely funny seeing the other posters mock him about the Irish menace. LOL

    Tom Watsonberger / Old Dutch = liar jew fraud!

    Thanks for the laugh Mike! LOL LOL LOL

  7. Mike in Indiana says:

    @Lady Lurker

    You’re welcome, LOL.

  8. ATBOTL says:

    How can Evangelical Protestantism save us when it is explicitly universalist, against ethnic/racial particularism and holds converting everyone in world, regardless of race, as it’s main goal?

    One of the things that made America so successful initially was that it was the most secular states in the world at the time.

    This idea that America is suffering from a lack a Christianity is bizarre. It’s an idea that was very prominent on the far right in decades past. It’s strange that people would show up here and advocate it. If I understand Hunter, his goal is to build a new pro-white ideological space targeted towards high IQ under 30′s. Evangelical Protestantism is about the last thing such people are interested in.

    Applying evolutionary theory to humans is a much more useful and interesting foundation to build our movement on than the ravings of primitive Middle Easterners from thousands of years ago.

  9. Will S. says:

    “the European-American people of North America”? So, you all are ready to reach out to your European-North-American brothers and sisters across the 49th parallel, and say the late unpleasantness in the late 18th century was all just an unfortunate misunderstanding? ;)

  10. Kulaks Never Learn says:

    How can Evangelical Protestantism save us when it is explicitly universalist, against ethnic/racial particularism and holds converting everyone in world, regardless of race, as it’s main goal?

    One of the things that made America so successful initially was that it was the most secular states in the world at the time.

    ATBOTL,

    Partially true. Indeed there was a good deal of Masonic and Deistic thought among the Founders, to be sure, but there was also a great emphasis on Christianity among the early American settlers as well.

    The difference then of course was the prizm of which they viewed Protestant Christianity through.

    I call it ‘Old Testament Christianity’ — viewing the faith, and Their place in it, in a much more particularist, rather than universalist paradigm.

    The NW-Euro Protestant Afrikaners as well had for many generations valued their faith from a ‘chosen people’ perspective.

  11. Reginald says:

    “How can Evangelical Protestantism save us when it is explicitly universalist, against ethnic/racial particularism and holds converting everyone in world, regardless of race, as it’s main goal?”

    They are more Ethnocentric (on average) than the average White American:

    http://theoccidentalobserver.net/tooblog/?p=448

    “One of the things that made America so successful initially was that it was the most secular states in the world at the time.”

    Evidence?

    Americans were very religious initially, as compared to later years. Were all other Countries really even more religious?

  12. Reginald says:

    “This idea that America is suffering from a lack a Christianity is bizarre.”

    Actually the problem that we’re suffering from an absence of belief in God.

    If every White had converted to belief in Allah in 1900, and if we had held fast to that faith, we would be FAR better off now.

    No people with a strong belief in a God has let themselves be overrun by foreigners like we have.

    It was only AFTER the ancient Romans lost their faith in Jupiter that their Empire started being infiltrated by other peoples.

    And it was only AFTER White Americans lost their faith in God that we started being infiltrated by other peoples.

    This is a general pattern of history I have noticed.

  13. Reginald says:

    I mean, when the army of the most powerful Army in the World invade Iraq, did the Iraqis tolerate their invasion like the White American masses have tolerated being invaded by Mestizos and other aliens?

    No they didn’t.

    And it sure seems to me that thier belief in the Supernatural gave them a lot of extra moral courage to stand up for what they believed to be right.

  14. Reginald says:

    That said: Of itself Evengelical Christianity won’t save us.

    It will likely be the only thing that saves us from extinction from a low birthrate, but of itself won’t be enough to save us from the massive building sea of zoomanity that gains more political power each year.

  15. MGLS says:

    They are more Ethnocentric (on average) than the average White American

    Opposition to abortion has little to do with ethnocentrism. Some evangelicals oppose abortion by calling it “racist” and “black genocide.” Evangelicals may oppose amnesty, but they will fall over themselves to proclaim their support for legal immigration, declare that “racism” is evil and wicked, and say “race doesn’t matter.” Implicit whiteness is next to useless.

  16. Reginald says:

    Even on a poll question asking about immigration in general, the Evengelicals were more Ethnocentric in their response than the average:

    “In contrast to many religious leaders, most members think immigration is too high.

    •Catholics: 69 percent said immigration is too high; 4 percent said too low; 14 percent just right.

    •Mainline Protestants: 72 percent said it is too high; 2 percent said too low; 11 percent just right.

    •Evangelical Protestants: 78 percent said it is too high; 3 percent said too low; 9 percent just right.

    •Jews: 50 percent said it is too high; 5 percent said is too low; 22 percent just right.”

    http://www.cis.org/ReligionAndImmigrationPoll

    So this indicates to me that White Evangelicals are more Ethnocentric than the average White American.

    At the same time I’m not going to pretend that’s saying much!

    “Implicit whiteness is next to useless.”

    A lot of implicitly White people are next to useless. In fact, some of them are worse than useless, like those idiots you allude to who are trying to stop Blacks getting abortions by associating it in their minds with the concept of genocide.

    It’s hard to say if implicit Whiteness is next to useless on average, though.

    Though I must admit that implicitly White voters almost got the World destroyed, by almost getting frothing madman John McCain elected.

  17. Lockeford says:

    I really don’t think religion is the cause or cure here, at least in terms of currently existing religions. There are plenty of racially aware atheists or pagans who would immediately right the immigration problem if they were in power.

    The notion the current situation has to do with the beliefs of the masses is more than a little questionable.

    What seems far more obvious is the standards for what creates a member of the political elite has changed, from study of Latin and classics, to mathematics or law. This new elite has certain characteristics that make them serve their own peculiar notions, not that of the people that built the nation. They are so-called ‘clever sillies’, smart in an IQ, test-taking way but utterly foolish otherwise. It is they who are convinced of the merits of mass immigration.

    The solution is to get a different kind of person into power.

  18. MGLS says:

    From On Genetic Interests by Frank Salter:

    p. 60

    The special quality of a defended territory is that it insulates the population from the vicissitudes of demographic disturbances in the metapopulation, namely the connected phenomena of uneven population growth and migration. When an ethny controls the borders of a territory that is large enough to support the population, loss of numbers relative to other ethnies is not necessarily fatal, i.e. it need not lead to replacement. Territory adequately defended guarantees genetic continuity and the chance to ride out a temporary downturn in numbers.

    pp. 149-150

    As I argued in Chapter 3, in the absence of mass immigration of genetically distant groups, a population occupying a fixed territory is guaranteed continuity at or below that territory’s carrying capacity, even when its global representation falls due to high fertility overseas. But mass migration inevitably reduces the native ethny’s relative fitness within its own territory, risking its continuity as a distinctive gene pool.

  19. Fred Scrooby says:

    About these Protestant denominations in the U.S. whose leaders have so vociferously taken the position that “race doesn’t matter” — I wonder if, somehow, Jewish-controlled money isn’t funding them behind the scenes? Maybe it’s a huge advantage in funding from certain … “outside sources,” let’s call them … that’s responsible for those denominations having become enormous while Kinist churches, the Protestants who do not say “race doesn’t matter,” remain tiny?

  20. Millirone says:

    Fred Scrooby: About these Protestant denominations in the U.S. whose leaders have so vociferously taken the position that “race doesn’t matter” — I wonder if, somehow, Jewish-controlled money isn’t funding them behind the scenes?

    I have wondered the same thing. Look at TBN with its massive funding and tv across the world. Where did all that money come from?

  21. Kulaks Never Learn says:

    I have wondered the same thing. Look at TBN with its massive funding and tv across the world. Where did all that money come from?

    Millirone,

    Good call. I remember reading a while back that Sumner Redstone (Murray Rothstein), the media tycoon who helped create and still funds MTV, poured a lot of his money into specifically the ‘Televangelist’ movement — to maintain a near virtual 24/7 media blitz for ‘Christian Zionism’.

    I guess he was ‘successful’ in this regard, eh?

  22. Fred Scrooby says:

    That does it, I’m assuming from now on that Jewish money, or government or foundation money controlled/channeled by Jews (perhaps taken out of the ten billion a year that goes from our taxes directly to Israel), is funding these Protestant crazies, specifically the ones who go around spouting “race doesn’t matter.” I’ll assume that’s the case until proven otherwise because it’s too likely: pending further evidence-gathering, it’s way too likely a scenario. After all, does anyone honestly think that Rev. John “Would You Buy A Used Car From This Man?” Hagee came to all the abstruse “theological conclusions” he’s come to without having his palm greased bigtime by someone? I mean, let’s get back to reality shall we?

    So, it’s official: as far as I’m concerned the Jews are funding those race-denying Protestant crazies to the hilt.

  23. Fred Scrooby says:

    Pat Robertson’s snout is certainly in the same pig trough as far as I’m concerned.

  24. TabuLa Raza says:

    “. . . Hagee came to all the abstruse “theological conclusions” he’s come to without having his palm greased bigtime by someone? . .” I thought it was common knowledege about Hagee’s Handler, jew Dave Brog-
    Posted: May 25, 2008
    5 questions about Pastor Hagee and the Holocaust

    David Brog (short bio here) is Executive Director of Christians United for Israel, the organization founded by Pastor John Hagee (A dialogue I had with Brog two years ago is here).

    Last week, Hagee was involved in a controversy – not for the first time – that resulted in a decision by presidential candidate John McCain to publicly reject Hagee’s endorsement. McCain did this after is was revealed that Hagee “once described Adolf Hitler as a divine agent sent to force the Jews back to Israel” (more about this story here). In a written interview, Brog tries to explain Hagee’s remarks.

    Here is the interview:
    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/986771.html

  25. TabuLa Raza says:

    http://www.cufi.org/site/PageServer
    Brog’s organization- Christians United for Israel

  26. TabuLa Raza says:

    Hagee – Ashamed of Jesus’ Name
    By Rev. Ted Pike
    7-25-7
    To pray or not to pray in Jesus’ name — that question now confronts Christian evangelicals. Increasingly, Jewish activists demand that Jesus’ name go unmentioned in public prayers. They also insist that Christians not witness to Jews.

    Some evangelicals give them what they want. Dr. John Hagee, passionate “Israel-first” televangelist, worked closely with the Jewish lobby to found Christians United for Israel (CUFI). CUFI’s purpose is to unite every evangelical across the nation to “speak and act with one voice in support of Israel.”

    For three days in the Capitol last week, Hagee and an array of political and religious luminaries lavished praise on Israel and the Jewish people during Hagee’s 2nd Annual Israel/Washington, DC Summit. They did so while countless Americans agonized in prayer and concern over impending passage of Kennedy’s hate law amendment. Afterward, conference attendees walked the halls of Congress to lobby not against the hate bill but for Israel.

    Oppressive “hate crime” laws, which evangelicals are beginning to realize will persecute them, were created by Jews–the Anti-Defamation League and B’nai B’rith International. (See, video Hate Laws: Making Criminals of Christians and http://www.adl.org/99hatecrime/intro.asp) The state of Israel’s birth was midwifed by B’nai B’rith, the most powerful Jewish organization in the world during the last century. It claims to speak as “the voice of organized world Jewry.”

    Zionism, the government of Israel, ADL/B’nai B’rith, and the global hate laws agenda all have one goal: a global bureaucracy run from Jerusalem which will make it a hate crime for any Gentile, Christian or Arab, to criticize Jews, matters Jewish, or the state of Israel. (See, Coming Jewish ‘Utopia’ Ruled by Noahide Laws)

    Hate Bill Supporter Runs CUFI

    CUFI’s executive director, David Brog, a religiously (though not politically) conservative Jew, was hired by John Hagee. Brog is former chief of staff to Sen. Arlen Specter. Next to Sens. Kennedy and Smith, Specter is one of the Senate’s most ardent, long-term promoters of the federal “anti-hate” bill.

    Brog’s personal assistant told me Brog headed Specter’s staff from about 2000 to 2004. During that period, the hate bill came before Congress three times. Specter and Brog did their utmost to pass it, attempting to shackle America under a hate crimes bureaucracy like in Canada, ending free speech.

    Featured speaker Sen. Joe Lieberman, also a veteran hate bill promoter, was honored last week at Hagee’s gala. Lieberman and fellow Jewish activist Carl Levin co-sponsored the infamous Sec. 220 of the Lobby Reform Bill, which incited outrage from Christian conservatives this winter. Rejected by the Senate, Sec. 220 would have restricted Americans’ right of petition and grassroots activism. It would have imposed oppressive reporting and accountability requirements on small conservative lobbying organizations. Penalty for not satisfying Levin and Lieberman’s onerous requirements: $100,000 fine.

    Hagee’s Apostasy

    While Hagee praised the names of Jews and Israel for three days last week, the name of Jesus was discouraged by CUFI policy. This restriction is on all CUFI’s “Nights to Honor Israel” which are held in 50 states. When invited to address the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) last year, Hagee assured his hosts that his appearance would be “non-conversionary” (non-evangelical).

    Speaking for Hagee as well as himself, David Brog says: “All activities of CUFI are strictly non-conversionary. Christians who work with Jews in supporting Israel realize how sensitive we are in talking about conversion and talking about Jesus. So those who work with us tend not to talk about Jesus more, but talk about Jesus less. They realize it will interfere with what they are trying to do — building a bridge to the Jewish community to ensure the survival of Judeo-Christian Civilization.” 1

    Hagee benefits from a burgeoning evangelical heresy: Jews have their own covenant with God; they are so divinely favored, even good, that they do not need Jesus for salvation.

    Jesus taught the opposite. He said His name should be proclaimed “to all nations.” (Matt. 28:19) The New Testament hardly exempts Jews from need of the gospel. Instead, it instructs Christians to witness “to the Jew first” and then the Gentile (Romans 2:10).

    Hundreds of times during CUFI’s recent three-day Washington conference, Hagee and his speakers praised the names of those who created hate laws and the name of the nation that is the primary cause of Mid-East strife. There was no public praise of the name of the One who, coming out of eternity, died in agony on the cross for Hagee’s sins. Clearly, CUFI is an abomination to God, as it is dedicated to public praise, honor, and glory to persecutive, anti-Christ Israel and not to Christ. (See, Christians in Israel: An Endangered Species)

    Hagee’s is a monstrous sin against Jesus, His Holy Spirit, and, tragically, against the eternal souls of Jews. The word “apostate” (“apostasis” in Greek) describes a backslidden Christian who now prefers the approval of man and stands apart from Jesus and the reproach of His name. The New Testament prophesies that in the latter days there will occur a great “falling away” as former Christians deny Christ’s name to please unbelievers (2 Thess. 2:3).

    Hagee’s Deal with the Devil

    Two thousand years ago the Pharisees demanded that the apostles not “talk about Jesus.” The disciples refused and were thrown in prison and flogged. (Acts 4:3, 5:40)

    In contrast, Hagee gives “the synagogue of Satan” (Rev. 3:9) exactly what it demands. He promises not to mention the name of Jesus among them. As a result, evil Jewish leaders exalt him.

    Hagee boasts that he received the ‘Humanitarian of the Year’ award from B’nai B’rith. “It was the first time in the history of San Antonio,” his website crows, “that it has been given to a Gentile Dr. Hagee has received numerous honors and accolades from national Jewish organizations for his unwavering support of Israel.”

    Hagee has abandoned his Christian duty of moral criticism in love. Instead, he flatters and unquestioningly supports one of the world’s most boldly oppressive regimes. (See, The Simple Explanation for Mid-East Strife and video Why The Mid-East Bleeds) Since he praises and receives honor from those who create hate laws, is it any wonder that his huge ministry did not significantly warn against Kennedy’s hate bill last week?

    Some Won’t Compromise

    But some Christians still deserve the name. Like their apostolic forbears, they now endure persecution from the Jews.

    In high profile are Navy Chaplain Gordon Klingenschmitt and 68 Navy chaplains suing the Navy for forbidding their use of Jesus’ name in public prayers. Klingenschmitt has been court-martialed for praying in Jesus’ name in front of the White House, expelled from the military, and stripped of his military pension.

    His conviction is entirely a result of Jewish anti-Christian activism. Jewish activist Mikey Weinstein sued the Air Force Academy and was successful in banning public prayers in Jesus’ name. Rabbi Arnold Resnicoff, chief ethical consultant to the Air Force and Navy, played the predominant role in upholding Weinstein’s victory. Previously, Resnicoff had been instrumental in banning the use of Jesus’ name in public prayers by Navy chaplains. (See, Correction: Speech at Air Force Academy Not Free)

    What’s in a Name?

    Why is the name of Jesus so hated by Jewish activists?

    It’s an old story. In the book of Acts, the Pharisees forbade preaching in Jesus’ name because it focused blame on them for masterminding the crucifixion. Today the physical and spiritual descendants of the Pharisees object for similar reasons: The name of Jesus stands for a real Person whose identity as Son of God and Israel’s Messiah they find abhorrent.

    The name of Jesus, like our own names, refers to His identity. Our names represent our character and life record. The name Jesus (Yeshua) signifies that He is the Creator of all things and Deliverer of those who trust in Him. He is also the great lover of mankind, both Jew and Gentile, having endured an excruciating death so all who trust in His name can be saved. (Acts 4:12)

    This raises indicting questions of Jews: Why did your forefathers crucify Him? Why do you continue to reject Him and revive New Testament persecutions against His followers? (See, ADL Sets Up ‘Philly 11′ Christians)

    Jewish activists have no problem with Christian chaplains or high school graduates praying in the name of “God.” That word is non-specific, non-incriminating. “God” can be a universal world force, a cow or monkey, even ourselves. Such Jews also don’t mind the use of “Jesus” as profanity, which levels Him to gutter language. Yet when Jesus’ name is spoken reverently in public prayer, they protest loudly. Their “civil liberties,” they scream, are being violated!

    The Bible Doesn’t Support Hagee

    Hagee’s mega-flattery of Israel and omission of the name of Christ finds no precedent in Scripture. In the Old Testament, the Hebrews gathered for lengthy festivals of praise but to God, not themselves. Most of the time, even when Israel was moderately obedient (as in the exodus), God describes Israel as an unusually stiff-necked and rebellious people (Ex. 27:9, 33:3).

    In the New Testament, the Jews, having coerced the Romans to crucify their Messiah, are even less worthy of praise. Do the words of St. Paul indicate that, if he were alive today, he would have joined Hagee, Liebermann, and over 4000 evangelicals in Washington last week, whooping it up in praise of Israel?

    “The Jews killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and drove us out. They are not pleasing to God but hostile to all men, hindering us from speaking to the Gentiles that they might be saved, with the result that they always fill up the measure of their sins. But wrath has come on them to the uttermost.” (1 Thess. 2:16)

    St. Paul would have come toward Hagee for only one purpose: to rebuke him. Otherwise, he and New Testament Christians would have shunned him as a

    heretic.

    So should you.

    (Adapted from Rev. Ted Pike’s October 2, 2006 article: “To Pray or Not to Pray in Jesus’ Name.”)

    Endnotes:

    1 July 13, 2006, The Washington Times, “Christian group to advocate more support for Israel,” by Julia Duin.
    http://www.rense.com/general77/hagee.htm

  27. Fred Scrooby says:

    I just saved Tabula Raza’s John Hagee article as a document in my computer. (Actually I saved all comments from #119 down). It’s now crystal-clear that the Evangelical Protestants’ stubborn brainwashing on the subject of race is coming from their Jewish handlers: mystery solved.

  28. Fred Scrooby says:

    I mean, if the Jews can brainwash these Evangelicals into refusing to say the name Jesus when praying (“because that name offends the Jews”) they can brainwash them into literally anything.

  29. Kulaks Never Learn says:

    I mean, if the Jews can brainwash these Evangelicals into refusing to say the name Jesus when praying (”because that name offends the Jews”) they can brainwash them into literally anything.

    Indeed Fred they certainly can – even going so far in denying the Divinity of the Christ.

    The Apostasy of John Hagee: Jesus was NOT the Messiah! – Bible Wheel Forum

    In his book In Defense of Israel (2007), beginning in the section called “The Jews did not Reject Jesus as Messiah” (p. 132) John Hagee relentlessly twisted Scripture in his attempt to prove that Jesus Christ did not come “to be Messiah to the Jews.” His denial of Jesus as the Christ (Messiah) cannot be overlooked as a mere “slip of his pen” because he repeated his assertion “seven ways from Sunday” as seen in this sample of seven quotes from his book:

    If God intended for Jesus to be the Messiah of Israel, why didn’t he authorize Jesus to use supernatural signs to prove he was God’s Messiah, just as Moses had done? (p. 137)
    Jesus refused to produce a sign … because it was not the Father’s will, nor his, to be Messiah. (p 138)
    If Jesus wanted to be Messiah, why did he repeatedly tell his disciples and followers to “tell no one” about his supernatural accomplishments? (p. 139)
    The Jews were not rejecting Jesus as Messiah; it was Jesus who was refusing to be the Messiah to the Jews. (p. 140)
    They wanted him to be their Messiah, but he flatly refused. (p. 141)
    He refused to be their Messiah, choosing instead to be the Savior of the world (p. 143)
    Jesus rejected to the last detail the role of Messiah in word or deed. (p. 145)

    http://www.biblewheel.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=229

    ~

    2 Corinthians 11: 13-15

    13 — For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

    14 — And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

    15 — Therefore, it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness, whose end shall be according to their works.

    &

    Matthew 10:33

    But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

    John Ha-gee-zer, and his acolytes, should actually start reading the Bible, rather than just the abridged footnotes in the Scofield ‘Translation’ hoax.

    *Fred – its wonderful to have you back. No more long hiatuses – this is your home.

  30. Fred Scrooby says:

    Thanks, Kulak

  31. Millirone says:

    TBN and its bastard child Daystar have fundraising all the time trying to steal money from the hands of little old ladies but the amount of money they are sporting around the world is in the 100′s of millions. They literally are broadcasting nonstop day and night around the world propaganda of universalist doctrine and Zionism.

    They are not getting this amount of cash from little old ladies.

  32. Kulaks Never Learn says:

    They are not getting this amount of cash from little old ladies.

    True Millirone. They just want to extract every dime possible from these Christians to help put them, and their families, further into the poorhouse — thus aiding and abetting their marginalization and dispossession.

  33. Kulaks Never Learn says:

    …After all, does anyone honestly think that Rev. John “Would You Buy A Used Car From This Man?” Hagee came to all the abstruse “theological conclusions” he’s come to without having his palm greased bigtime by someone? I mean, let’s get back to reality shall we?

    So, it’s official: as far as I’m concerned the Jews are funding those race-denying Protestant crazies to the hilt. – Fred

    Do all of you guys remember as well when the Rev. Jerry Falwell recieved, even back in 1979, his own private, personal million dollar Lear jet airplane as a ‘gift’ from former Israeli Prime Minister Begin — as well as as many all-expense-paid trips to Israel he wished to take??

    Gee, wonder where the money actually came from to fund all these expenses? ;}

  34. TabuLa Raza says:

    Media Press Kit

    Statement of Purpose
    The purpose of Christians United For Israel (CUFI) is to provide a national association through which every pro-Israel church, parachurch organization, ministry or individual in America can speak and act with one voice in support of Israel in matters related to Biblical issues.

    Past, Present, and Future
    Israel is in peril. The President of Iran has threatened to wipe Israel off the map and he’s rapidly acquiring the nuclear technology with which to make good on this threat. In the meantime, Iran’s proxies in Hezbollah and Hamas are arming themselves at an alarming rate, and Hamas has been firing missiles into Southern Israel.

    Millions of Christians across America have a deep love for Israel and the Jewish people and want to stand with them during these difficult days. Yet, until recently, pro-Israel Christians were divided and often silent. They limited their support of Israel to prayers and charitable donations.

    In February, 2006, over 400 Christian leaders from across the country flew to San Antonio, Texas to join Pastor John Hagee in determining how the Christian world should respond to the ongoing threats to Israel. By the end of the day, the group had decided to launch a national grassroots movement focused on support of Israel and the Jewish people. Christians United for Israel was born.

    Since that date, Christians United for Israel has grown to become the largest pro-Israel organization in the United States and one of the leading Christian grassroots movements in the world. CUFI spans all fifty states and reaches millions with our message. Each year CUFI holds hundreds of pro-Israel events in cities around the country. And each July, thousands of pro-Israel Christians gather in Washington, D.C. to participate in the CUFI Washington Summit and make their voices heard in support of Israel and the Jewish people.

    Our impact has been immediate. Our growth has been phenomenal. And we’ve only just begun.

    Goals and Objectives

    Goal One: To educate Christians about the Biblical and moral imperatives about supporting Israel.
    While millions of Christians support Israel, there are millions more who do not. It is crucial to build Christian support for Israel throughout America through a program of education, outreach, and events.

    CUFI’s education efforts include:
    Objective 1.1: CUFI’s weekly email update informs hundreds of thousands of Christians about the current situation in Israel and the Middle East.
    Objective 1.2: CUFI’s magazine, The Torch, provides articles and analysis on Israel and the Middle East from scholars, policy experts, and renowned religious leaders.
    Objective 1.3: CUFI’s Nights to Honor Israel events throughout the country are life-changing experiences that open Christians’ eyes to the need to support Israel and the Jewish people.
    Objective 1.4: CUFI’s bi-annual Summit in Jerusalem brings thousands of Christians worldwide to Israel to experience Israel first-hand and demonstrate solidarity.
    Objective 1.5: CUFI’s website provides cutting-edge educational resources about Israel.
    Objective 1.6: CUFI’s quarterly conference calls with Israeli and U.S. elected officials and opinion leaders enable CUFI members to learn first-hand about the issues facing Israel.
    Objective 1.7: CUFI ON CAMPUS chapters equip tomorrow’s leaders to become effective advocates for Israel, and to counter the rising anti-Israel on campuses.
    Objective 1.8: Christians United for Israel Sunday is one day when Christians around the
    world unite in prayer and action on behalf of Israel.
    Objective 1.9: Standing with Israel meetings are opportunities to help Christians to better understand how and why we should support Israel.

    Goal Two: To Communicate Pro-Israel Perspectives to our Neighbors, Newspapers and Elected Officials
    While it is important that we pray for Israel, it is also important that we put feet to our prayers and speak truth to power about the need to stand with Israel at this critical juncture in history.

    CUFI’s public policy efforts include:
    Objective 2:1: CUFI’s annual Washington Summit enables CUFI members to personally speak with their elected officials on behalf of Israel.
    Objective 2:2: CUFI’s Rapid Response Alerts mobilize CUFI members at critical junctures throughout the year to generate millions of phone calls and emails requesting support for Israel from the Administration and Congress.
    Objective 2:3: CUFI holds advocacy trainings at the Washington Summit and events throughout the

    country.
    Objective 2:4: CUFI’s website provides resources, materials and updates.

    Press Contact:

    Contact Ari Morgenstern at 30 Point Strategies (404) 898-1278 or ari@30point.com
    http://www.cufi.org/site/PageServer?pagename=media_press_kit

  35. TabuLa Raza says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRYm5YtaCQo&feature=player_embedded
    Vicki Polin-Jewish Satanic Ritual Abuse Survivor (Oprah show)

  36. Kulaks Never Learn says:

    Do all of you guys remember as well when the Rev. Jerry Falwell recieved, even back in 1979, his own private, personal million dollar Lear jet airplane as a ‘gift’ from former Israeli Prime Minister Begin — as well as as many all-expense-paid trips to Israel he wished to take??

    Just stumbled upon this fascinating article and website -

    Likud And Falwell

    Government support of settlement building accelerated dramatically in 1977 when Menachem Begin became Prime Minister. Begin’s ultranationalist notions had made him a figure on the fringe for the first three decades of Israel’s existence, but his Likud Party had finally come to power.

    Ironically, Begin won a Nobel Peace Prize in 1978, along with President Anwar Sadat of Egypt, for signing the Camp David Accords. Thanks to skillfully managed negotiations on the part of U.S. President Jimmy Carter, Begin agreed to return the Sinai desert to Egypt, but refused to discuss the Jewish settlements in the West Bank and Gaza. And this is where our story begins – the same year that the Camp David Accords were signed.

    That year, 1978, Begin invited The Reverend Jerry Falwell for his first official visit to Israel, and the following year, 1979, his government gave Falwell a gift — a Lear Jet.

    Begin’s timing was perfect. He began working seriously with Christian Zionists at the precise moment that Christian fundamentalists in America were discovering their political voice.

    The same year that Falwell received his Lear Jet, 1979, he formed the Moral Majority, an organization that changed the political landscape in the United States. What was Falwell’s interest in Israel? He was a Dispensationalist. Dispensationalism is a system of theology that believes the Jews must return to Israel as part of God’s plan for Christ to return. To read more about the history of Dispensationalism, click here.

    The Rise of the Religious Right in the Republican Party
    http://www.theocracywatch.org/christian_zionism.htm

  37. TabuLa Raza says:
  38. Lady Lurker says:

    Face it…any Christian group that has a media presence/platform is doing it with Zio dollars.

    The only protestant preacher that I can think of that isn’t owned, is Chuck Baldwin.

  39. Jonathan says:

    The problem with a lot of “white nationalists” and “race realists” in general is that they place a greater premium on outer appearance than inner attitudes, when it comes to whiteness.

    Many seem apathetic to the hostile virus of progressivism that effects the white tribe as much as the other tribes of humanity. A virus incubated by white leftists, no less. Whose evil intent is nothing less than the destruction of the cultural worldviews that guided the evolution of American society up to about 1935.

    Such whites often fail to connect the dots about their own decline; they scarcely notice that the out-of-wedlock birth rate for whites of today is higher the rate for black girls of 100 years ago. Why? Do we even wonder why? That the percentage of functionally illiterate white kids graduating high school is higher than the proportionate percentage for black grads of 70 years ago. Why? Do we even wonder why?

    I recall the days before welfare reform, when food stamps were more plentiful than postage stamps. When so many self-proclaimed white segregationists decried the black “welfare queen”, while simultaneously taking their government pensions and SS checks and clamoring for union bennies.

    Marxist thought deems Western white culture based on capitalist models of the past as inherently racist. And Christianity is deemed as enemy number one to be vanquished, because it opposes the Marxist view of historical evolution at every turn. Therefore, whites who embrace ideas opposed to Biblical Christianity, either knowingly or innocently, are working to cut their own throats. And all the attendant “fellow travellers” of socialism – Fascists, Nazis, Anarchists, Communists, monarchists, etc. are of the same ilk. It DOES NOT MATTER that many of these groups oppose one another. They all stand opposed to the ideals of the American founding fathers.

    We can argue the culture or genetics question about black behaviour all day long. But the problem with black culture is that it is a Marxist culture. Either by enculturation or genetics. When you look at black society, you are seeing the END RESULT of progressivism.

  40. Jay says:

    Regarding #10, some readers may not know the difference between the “Articles of Confederation” drafted 1776-1777, which can be read about here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articles_of_Confederation

    Eleven Southern States formed a different entity from 1861 to 1865 called the “Confederate States of America” which can be read about here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_States_of_America

    In retrospect, the Articles of Confederation were acts of genius and still exist, albeit in spiritual, but not deceased, form. We could fill those governmental shoes without missing a beat, and no one could call it treason.

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