You know what? Greg Johnson is right. I did go too far in emphasizing the negative.
One of the things that drives me insane about this movement is the fact that people can’t get along and constantly assume the worst about each other. Everyone is either a federal agent, or secretly gay, or a Jew, or just in it for the money somehow (as if white nationalism is some great cash cow and we have a problem of too much careerism). We’ve got enough problems without attacking each other all the time. I just made that same mistake. Most everything I have heard about Harold Covington is bad, but I know none of it firsthand and I shouldn’t repeat it. God knows there are enough lies on the Internet. So I will assume the best about him until proven otherwise.
Harold, if you are reading this, I apologize for assuming the worst about you. Consider me a fan.
The larger point however, is this — there is enough stuff out there to give anyone pause. Being a political leader means building coalitions, managing personal relationships, and growing the movement. Can Harold Covington actually do that and build a credible real world movement given his history? I think that is a fair question. And I have my doubts.
That said, I think Harold Covington’s books are some of the most important white nationalist literature out there. I encourage everyone to buy them. (Covington does allow people to download them for free, which I think effectively rebuts the “he’s in it for the money” charge. People should buy them so he at least gets something out of his work.)
What you should do after you read those books — that’s what we’ll be debating in the days to come.
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From Tom Metzger’s News and Views, March 26, 2010:
Covington versus Metzger?
Dear Mr. Covington and Mr. Metzger,
I propose a civil debate between both of you on Radio Free Mississippi. It’s my impression there is a long running feud between the two of you. Many, including myself do not understand the genesis of this conflict but it would be immensely interesting to hear from you both and allow both of you the opportunity to air your view of things. Of course it would be necessary to establish some basic rules and a format, e.g., the fundamental rule being no interrupting the other.
I’m ready when you are.
Jim Giles
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TT says:
I have covered this ground a thousand times and do not intend doing it again accept to say my differences have little to do with tactics, with which anyone may disagree without going to war. But when the family and honor of my person becomes the tactic, then I draw the line.
Covington in the past has involved himself in using the worst sort of personal lies about myself, my dead wife and even my children. That is the method used by the Jew, not an honorable White man. The major differences, as I have said before, have never been tactics between us, and he knows it. I have many differences with a lot of people but we still have communication, but there will never be a debate between myself and Covington.
If he would submit to a duel with choice of weapons I would relish the idea. (NOT KIDDING)
Tom Metzger
Will,
1.) Most people here don’t know the details of your feud with Covington. I was a teenager when Covington became an unpopular figure on WN listservs.
2.) I wrote that post at Lindstedt’s forum before hearing Covington’s latest podcast. I hadn’t listened to the most recent one until a friend contacted me about it last night.
3.) Covington is mad at OD because Robert Campbell caught him using a sockpuppet.
4.) I think Covington is a decent writer. I liked several of his previous podcasts, not the ones where he dwells on his enemies. Honestly, I don’t know much about HAC aside from the fact that he lives in the Northwest, pushes the Northwest Homeland idea, and seems to be hated by everyone in the White Nationalist movement.
5.) I think a Northwest Homeland is impractical (see our posts about the subject), but I don’t oppose the concept. If WNs in the Northwest want to secede from the United States, I wouldn’t be opposed to that.
6.) I understand why you passionately detest Covington. Robert Campbell relayed the story to me this afternoon. Your last post got ate by the spam filter.
Thanks, Hunter.
It’s not about Robert catching HAC. That was a pretext, like I said several times already. It’s not about the NW Migration, or its practicability. It’s not about my “personal detestation” of this professional smear artist or my alleged “feud.” I pity the man. He’s sick. He needs to be neutralized, so that’s what it’s about.
Like Tom Metzger, I challenged Covington to a couple of duels before I finally decided to make his world crash using time-tested libel law. That was back in ’95, before you first heard of the “feud” as a teen in 1996. You have no idea how disruptive HAC became once he discovered the internet and could reach impressionable people like you that would have never heard of him otherwise.
Covington is indeed a decent writer. So what? So is Frank Rich. It’s not about his writing. It’s about the fact he is not a decent man.
It’s about character — his lack of it, specifically. It’s almost funny hearing him talk about character, if it wasn’t so sad. I’ll continue to spread the word on him as I can, but you folks don’t make it easy when you promote his NF Website, legitimizing him. How many who have read OD and TOQ glowing reviews of NF trilogy have seen an obscure thread like this one which pretty much sets the record straight about HAC’s ability to lead anyone anywhere, yet he asks for donations to his cause at that Web site y’all link to.
One foot on the gas, the other on the brake.
Pore Pore Pityfool WhiggerSwill
http://whitenationalist.org/forum/showthread.php?p=1942#post1942
http://stumbleinn.net/forum/showthread.php?p=262174#post262174
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WhiggerSwill: Pore Pore PityFool WhiggerSwill
This is a repost that didn’t go up yesterday:
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WhiggerSwill was of course allowed to post given that Fade the Butcher/Cunterre Wallass is all wishy-washy like most edjewmacated intellecshuls to where pore Cunterre will still beg for a blowjob after paying six times the going rate for truckers. Cunterre likewise associates with other intellecshuls who didn’t get enough of an ass-raping at the LinderMillerite Greater Free Range Tard Corral otherwise known as VNNF, and so of course WhiggerSwill will get to yap itz piece of how Dr. William Pierce was a great Revolutionary as opposed to being a bowel Movement bookseller as opposed to Harold Covington who, in addition to writing pretty good fiction, is at least doing something. Now whether or not you like what Covington is doing or disagree with it in whole or in part, the fact of the matter is that Covington is worth more than 666 edjewmacated intellecshul whiggers if for no other reason than because edjewmacated intellecshul whiggers playing at piss-pot Rabbleushun are less than worthless.
So why am I reposting in response to WhiggerSwill’s treasonous ZOGbot nonsense? Well, much of it is because Occidental Dissent is read by others than the jewsual ZOGling whiggers, jews, mamzers — there might even be a few potential future warlords reading — and because why should WhiggerSwill the ZOGbot TraitorGlenn Miller enabler have the last word? Why not ridicule WhiggerSwill for essentially sucking on ZOG’s cock by means of a favorable kort [d]ruling in which the dangerous precident was set that any ZOGbot whiner can engage in a baseless libel lawsuit and get a favorable result resulting in taking the property and potentially the freedom of Resistance activists? Because, make no mistake about it, ZOG has itz thumb on what results from a ZOG kort.
And WhiggerSwill is using itz ZOG kort [d]ruling against Harold Covington. So why should we regard WhiggerSwill as anything except a ZOG agent provocateur? Which is exactly what WhiggerSwill is, a ZOGbot. Thus WhiggerSwill is worried that allegedly White Nationalist activists will censor WhiggerSwill’s responses. Why? Most ‘intellectuals’ are altogether pussies without courage or common sense willing to actually do something about their alleged convictions. They are not willing to even spill a drop of ink, much less an ocean of blood in order to bring about that which they claim to love — an all-White ethnostate.
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I don’t have a problem with the Northwest Front. We link to your site. I don’t care about the sockpuppet issue or the movement drama you have with Will Williams either. If White Nationalists want to join your crusade in the Northwest, I wish them the best of luck.
Note: The podcasts you are doing are really good. We tune in every week.
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I was wondering why Occidental Dissent would continue to link to such such a documented fraud as Defendant Covington. Now it’s clear why.
It’s not about the “drama” (Williams v. Covington), nor Covington’s imaginary NW Army of sockpuppets; it’s because Greg Johnson, Hunter Wallace and Gregory Hood don’t care that Covington is a well-documented lying fraud. They love his “brilliant” writing and the way he reads his stuff on his weekly radio show (which he had to launch to get around “JOGbot” Williams control of the internet).
Thanks for the link. I’m listening to Defendant Covington reading his latest weekly “radio” script: http://www.northwestfront.org/rfn/rfn032510.mp3 This is the big one that he hesitated to record, but had to because it’s cryptically “already out of his hands.”
Wow! That really is some great “radio.” Just think of all the newbies who will be wondering who the “goat dancers” he talks about are. That’s his well-known euphemism for Creators, followers of Ben Klassen’s Creativity religion for Whites, BTW. Some of us who’ve been around for more than a few months know that, of course.
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I listen to every single one of Covington’s podcasts. Why? Because every single one of them at some basic level make sense. Covington actually knows something about what he is talking about. Unlike WhiggerSwill’s great ally and friend TraitorGlenn Miller, insofar as I know of, nobody around Harold Covington has ever gone to prison for conspiracy and even more to the point, Harold Covington has never testilied against anyone in the bowel Movement, much less any of the fighting forces.
Now that said, if you don’t like Covington’s podcasts, then don’t listen to them. If you don’t like Covington’s writings, then don’t read them. Just that simple.
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Woops, he slipped up and said “Benny Klassen.” At least he didn’t say “Benny Buttfuck” like he has done for over two decades. My, my, Greg and Hunter and Gregory must have been on the floor laughing as Defendant Covington spins his gripping tales of the imaginary goat dancing Creators.
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Most of us Christian Identity types can’t stand the typpycull skinhead criminal rabble known as CreaTards. Nor do CreaTards like Christian Identity. These solipsistic vermin just have to make fun of us “Worshiping a dead jew on a stick,” so of course the CI response is that CreaTards “worsheep a dead faggot jew on a dick.” The end result is what it is: The fragmentation of the bowel Movement into what it is today.
Now if a CreaTard acts like it don’t want to fight with CI, like the late great James Von Brunn, whom both myself and Pastor John Britton used to correspond with, or Mike Mazzone, who is pretty nutty, then we get along with certain CreaTards. But as in all things, what you get out is determined by what you give in.
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I wonder if they know that the “induhvidual” Defendant Covington characterizes as the leader of the “campaign of defamation” against him “since 1987,” the one who has allegedly, single-handedly wrecked every pro-White effort since then, including both Pat Buchanan’s presidential bid and Ron Paul’s, is me. He advanced this hypothesis years ago, you know, in his “satirical (think Bill White)” phony AP article about me as Special Agent Finchley — even mentions himself at the end indirectly. More here on that for Tubbo’s fan club: http://members.libreopinion.com/wasp/HAC/WillHAC.html
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Patsy Buckwheat is a total lying mackeral-snapping hybernigger whore who denounced me for ‘racism’ when I was running for US Senate on the Missouri Reform Party ballot in 2000. Insofar as Ron Paul is concerned, I neither support nor oppose him because Ron Paul is NOT a White Nationalist, but don’t fight with us as long as we maintain a proper distance.
Now the article above is written by Ingrid Rimland, who has her own credibility problems. In any case, I find it foolish for anyone to worry about whether or not WhiggerSwill was ‘Agent Finchley’ when in fact the matter in discussion is fraudulent libel suits in ZOG korts, which WhiggerSwill/Agent Finchley ‘won’ by default.
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I bet they believe HAC’s most uncharacteristic Dr. Pierce “quote” to him, too: “Harold, ol’ buddy, we’re chasing the same buck.” Would they think to ask him for a copy of Dr. Pierce’s alleged letter to him?
I’ve got a five-page hand-written letter to Dr. Pierce from Defendant Covington that arrived at the National Alliance National Office in WV in 1992, a few months after I had been invited to join Dr. Pierce’s staff as Membership Coordinator. Covington had sued me and Ben Klassen for libel in 1988 for an article we wrote exposing him as a crass hypocrite and big time liar. Plaintiff had to drop his harassment suit because what Ben and I had written was all true.
So, with that back story, back to this real letter, written in Defendant Covington’s unmistakable hand, in black ink on blue stationery, 18 years ago. Five pages of rambling about me, the “viper in the breast of the National Alliance,” and wild, per se accusations, like that I had sent package bombs through the mail to Xian evangelists in Eastern NC and VA, injuring one man and killing an innocent lady.
Dr. Pierce had a big laugh as he handed me that letter. He found Covington’s escapist fiction funny, to a point. He certainly never believed a word of it. He knew Covington to be the biggest liar to ever claim to be a National Socialist (and be believed). Nobody serious ever took Defendant Covington very seriously (other than April “Come Home to the Northwest Territory” Gaede and Pastor Lindstadt, perhaps) until Greg and Gregory and Hunter took the reins of the “Butler Plan” Leader’s Fan Club.
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William Pierce allegedly took money from The Order. Even Pierce’s biographer writes as much. Now if William Pierce used a ZOG kort in order to shut down a rival White Nationalist leader, then it is WhiggerSwill who is claiming in effect that Pierce was a traitor and ZOGbot because of that payoff which ZOG used against him.
Which is why most White Nationalists should keep a distance from each other and alleged leaders.
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So, now OD links to Northwest Front “crusade,” as does TOQ Online. What a movement!
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So? Why not link to serious White Nationalist material like that which Covington puts out as opposed to William Pierce, who is dead, and WhiggerSwill who had created . . . . what? . . . except a ZOGbot bogus libel suit and winning in a ZOG kort a default jewgement?
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Added 3/29/10:
I am blocked at Madog Lindstadt’s forum, but go there and see what he and Defendant Covington are up to, bad-mouthing OD because OD allowed me to counter HAC here before he took off like the rabbit he is.
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You have not been blocked insofar as I know of, yet if you did register I wouldn’t approve of your account at my Christian Nationalist v-bulletin forum for the simple reason that I can’t maintain my current alliance with Covington and have you on there like you are here on this Occidental Dissent forum using ZOG as a club to prevent Covington from answering you. WhiggerSwill is a sockpuppet here wherein what you say on other forums is presented here and answered, not by Covington, but by myself and others who are not under a ZOG kort order keeping us from doing so.
However, the old phpbb forum of mine, http://pastorlindstedt.org/forum, is unblocked for WhiggerSwill to post as he pleases as before.
Now because of ZOG and ZOG korts, I am called a child molester all the time by bowel Movement vermin. Rather than whine and beg a ZOG kort to make me hole, I simply observe from whence these slanders ensue and determine that I’ll skin out the liar and ZOG enabler for the destruction of my family and wastage of three and a half years of my life along with the ZOGbot’s family 665 other whiggers around the ZOGbot. That and a diagnosis of Piglice Testicle Eating Syndrome will clear everything up.
You see, to a true Revolutionary, there are no such thing as “innocence” — only sides. Why should I leave the spawn of regime criminals and ZOGling whigger herd animals alive to cause trouble for my grandchildren and great-grandchildren? Over 95% of whiggers are diseased animals which need to be either terrorized into compliance or simply exterminated. And the non-whites have no right to live and parasite off of a White Nation. None whatsoever. How can less than ten million Whites left after the Great Tribulation keep order over 150 million whiggers and 140 million non-whites? In fact, is not the purpose of the Great Tribulation to exterminate them all before the Return of Jesus Christ?
You see, this is why I find Occidental Dissent such a poseur place. None of the ‘intellectuals’ here are in any way serious. They wish the reap the benefit of living in a White society without exterminating regime criminals or the whigger herd animals which these jewkals feed off of.
Nor should I accept the lies of ZOG agents provocateurs like WhiggerSwill backstopping TraitorGlenn Miller, a known traitor, snitch and agent provocateur still trying to make itzself the ‘leader’ of silly whiggers playing at Revolution.
On March 29th when WhiggerSwill was whining about me running off, I was in Fulton getting ready to run for US Senate as an open White Nationalist candidate. I filed a motion and had Roxie serve it against the Republican and Democratic parties telling them that they could no longer openly discriminate against overt White Nationalist candidates, even though your friend and fellow ZOGbot TraitorGlenn Miller deliberately destroyed the ability of overtly White Nationalist candidates to run back in 2006. In fact, I am presently suing TraitorGlenn Miller, not for ZOGbux, but to make sure that the old traitor cums clean about his actions to deliberately destroy White Nationalist political activity.
So what exactly do you agents provocateur contribute? Nothing, except evil in trying to keep ZOG/Babylon alive past the time of reckoning. You get all annoyed that some of the whiggers are taking sides, against you, against ZOG. But they must take a side sometime. ZOG is falling apart, ZOG/Babylon is doomed. So if they are indeed racial patriots, then they should choose, and if not Covington, then at least against known traitors and agents provocateur, like yourself, WhiggerSwill.
Time and tide, WhiggerSwill. The whigger ‘intellectuals’ over here at Occidental Dissent will eventually have no choice but to take sides, and then upon taking sides to do dire deeds. I don’t think that things will go about as Covington predicts, but Covington’s notions are a useful way station along the way.
Hail Victory!!!
Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt
Church of Jesus Christ Christian/Aryan Nations of Missouri
http://whitenationalist.org/forum
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gentleman, I am new to the wn movement. however my private thoughts are not. I have always believed we as a race are uniquely apart from the rest. I have mot met the man who can listen and/or think of more than a few things at once without losing focus. this debate is not my business, nor my place to comment upon. And i will not.
I find all of you to be educted men of a deal of intelligence and i am much interested. My observation: While reading through od, I have not been thinking about white preservation but instead my attention has been focused on this on-going conversation if you will. If i had it to give, i would gladly give all i have to you for the future of my people, my wife and my son. he is becoming a man, with very few prospects for a future.
Gentlmen. please exscuse me.
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Good grief, Preacher Man. You do run on. I couldn’t read all that. You made mad brad lose focus. I skipped down and found this that you wrote:
“The whigger ‘intellectuals’ over here at Occidental Dissent will eventually have no choice but to take sides, and then upon taking sides to do dire deeds. I don’t think that things will go about as Covington predicts…”
I think you’re right. Did you notice the “whigger intellectuals” here at OD quietly removed Defendant Covington’s NF nonsense from it’s blogroll? That’s not a good sign for you migrants.
How ’bout taking this to the revived OD forum where we don’t keep disturbing good people and driving them away, confused?
I have my way; you have Yahweh.
http://67.76.185.229:7555/content/Metzger_on_Covington.pls
Tom Metzger speaks about Harold Covington’s vicious rumormongering. 29 October 2009