Hitler Admirers

Guy White recently coined the term “Hitler-admirers” to describe White Nationalists who aren’t Neo-Nazis, but who don’t agree with the total demonization of Nazi Germany. I’ve been included in this unusual category. He posted about this the day I moved from Alabama to Virginia. An epic snowstorm buried Virginia around that time and I never got around to responding.

I don’t like the term. It is not descriptive of my views. Unlike most White Nationalists, I am genuinely not interested in the Third Reich or European nationalist movements. I rarely write about European issues on Occidental Dissent. This blog has always been focused on the United States. In fact, the original subtitle was “Racial and Cultural Preservation in North America.”

My favorite racial regime of the twentieth century is the Jim Crow South. I have over a hundred books about the subject on my bookshelf and all sorts of Jim Crow memorabilia. My second and third choices would be the Belgian Congo and Apartheid South Africa which I have written about in the past. If I was forced to pick my “favorite racial regime of all time,” I would easily choose the Confederacy, which was based on the “cornerstone” of racial inequality, or the White Republic which lasted from 1789 to 1865. In January and February, I wrote several book reviews about the subject.

I admire Adolf Hitler in the sense that I acknowledge he had a few good points. He was a talented and charismatic public speaker. Hitler was a conservationist. He was an artist, a supporter of eugenics, a German patriot, put Germans back to work, proscribed degenerate art, and funded cancer research. Nazi Germany was renowned for its technological marvels like the V2 rocket program. Hitler annexed German minorities in neighboring countries to the Fatherland and removed Jews from all positions of influence and power. He withdrew from the League of Nations, repudiated Versailles, and restored German national confidence.

I can also say positive things about Abraham Lincoln, FDR, and Winston Churchill. Lincoln spent hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to deport blacks from the United States. In his famous debate with Stephen Douglas, he repudiated social equality. Lincoln signed the Homestead Act. The Morrill Land Grant Colleges Act led to the foundation of my alma mater. Lincoln’s ideas about industrial development were more progressive than those of his Southern counterparts.

FDR was a gifted politician. He can be credited for the TVA, SEC, FDIC, Social Security, and Glass-Steagall. His “Good Neighbor Policy” was a vast improvement in American foreign relations with Latin America. Like Hitler, Churchill was a talented writer, artist, and public speaker. He opposed non-White immigration to Britain. Churchill was a diehard imperialist who opposed the independence of India. I enjoyed his History of the English Speaking Peoples which I have in my library.

Does this make me a Lincoln-admirer, FDR-admirer, or Churchill-admirer? Perhaps. I don’t consider any of these terms useful or valid categories though. I have profound differences with Hitler, Lincoln, FDR, and Churchill on foreign policy. Few historical figures are entirely good or bad. I don’t have much respect for people who think in this binary way.

Most of them are idiots.

Update: The discussion continues on Guy White’s blog.

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HW, you sound like a die-hard multiculturalist, no problem with mixed-race societies as long as you get to be on top. You are like NeoNietzsche, enjoying your position as the Dominant with the Negroes as your Submissives. All the societies you listed were multi-cultural. Unlike most White Nationalists, I am genuinely not interested in the Third Reich Depends on who you define as “White Nationalists” I guess. Jim Crow South, Belgian Congo, apartheid South Africa – these were all multi-cultural regimes, not White Nationalism. The Abolitionists were the opposite, they supported sending blacks back to their homeland, unlike Jim Crow… Read more »
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“Most historians agree that it was an economic necessity.”

Most economists agree immigration is vital for our economy.

MGLS
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Racial differences in intelligence and social delinquency are what are important to the “race realists” like Guy White and Steve Sailer. The policies they advocate are ending affirmative action, making English the official language, reducing immigration, making sure immigrants “assimilate,” and promoting Eurocentric culture and values. These are peripheral in comparison to the racial issues that really matter. What really matters is racial preservation. As Richard McCulloch says, separation is the preservationist imperative. It is essential for racial survival. What the “race realists” discuss and advocate is inconsequential compared to the ultimate issue, that of racial preservation. I quote from… Read more »
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It’s no secret that Lawrence Auster’s favorite politician in Europe (or maybe even the entire world) is Geert Wilders. As mentioned above, Wilders cares almost exclusively about Islam, and he is not an ethnonationalist. Since protecting Jewish interests and opposing Islam are of infinitely more importance to Auster than European racial preservation, it is no surprise he is head over heels in love with Wilders. So enamored of Wilders is Auster that today he resorted to outright mendacity in trying to defend Wilders. Auster said the following today: http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/015870.html LA replies: any criticisms of Griffin he has made have been… Read more »
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Regarding the first exchange between HW and SSSS: I have always been against slavery and subduing other races within your own territory. Not because I care about them or cherish them. I don’t. I find all “Sun Peoples” primitive and irritating at best, barbarians at worst.

However, slavery or “mastery” means that you always have to watch your back and it usually means that your outbred. It also weakens the Master Race and turns them into soft, “cultured” wimps.

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The root cause of our race problem has always been economic. The thing I admire most about Hitler and the National Socialists were their economic policies. Compare self sufficient NS economic policy with that shitty little litterbox in the Middle East that survives by sucking the blood of the West, Or where jewish economics has taken this country down the road to. I especially would like to see the NS version of a National Labor Service implemented where young people, regardless of their station in life, serve a 2 year stint doing the dirty, back-breaking jobs that nobody else would… Read more »
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For whatever reason Guy White blocked this perfectly rational comment from his blog. Perhaps someone can go over there and set him straight that all the powerful Jews were not killed or demoted by Stalin, even if there was a shift in power away from where it was when Jews were essentially running the whole show. I was going to provide references, but he blocked me before I got around to digging up the books it would’ve taked to refute him. Guy White said: “And then Putin destroyed them all. Also, there were no Oligarchs under Gorbachev when he opened… Read more »
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Oops… ” After visiting these places, you can easily understand how that within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived. He had boundless ambition for his country which rendered him a menace to the peace of the world, but he had a mystery about him in the way that he lived and in the manner of his death that will live and grow after him. He had in him the stuff of which legends are made.” — John F. Kennedy, August 1, 1945 http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v18/v18n3p30_Kennedy.html… Read more »
Reginald
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The weird thing is that Guy White provided no evidence whatsoever for his assertion that Stalin purged all the powerful Jews, no evidence whatsoever for his claim that there were no Jews in the Cheka by the 40’s, and yet he banned me from his site because I dared to make claims without immediately providing links to documentation! Anyway, the amusing thing about people like Guy White is that you really have to ask the question: Even if the Holocaust happened, why do Non-Jews care so much about it that they’ll devote their lives to attacking anyone who even comes… Read more »
Kievsky
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The regime I most admire is the one that we’ll make in the future, the White nation within a (crumbling) nation-state.

It will be a home-schooling, market dominant minority nation that energetically buys up towns and takes them over, one at a time, like Mormons, without much media coverage negative or positive, because the mass media is going out of business anyway.

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MGLS,

Challenging (domestic) Islam is important. Few things better demonstrate the intellectual and moral bankruptcy of modern liberalism/leftism than its craven acquiescence to an Islamic primitiveness that brazenly flaunts liberals’ own cherished ideals. I’d love to see these contemptible cunts (the loony liberals) rounded up and paraded down the street for the people to beat them with sticks and publicly urinate on them, so wretched are they.

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I agree about South Africa, but Belgian Congo! That was a horrible, genocidal regime (no, I don’t think thats propaganda). How can you be serious about that?

I don’t think WN should be about the subjugation of other races.

Also, I don’t get the Jim Crow thing. I always see the backrows of the busses and it doesn’t make any sense to me.

Steven
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I absolutely admire Hitler. Those other leaders were bumbling idiots with fatal character flaws which contributed to the destruction of the future of us all. Most of the good things you list were things other leaders in their places would have done because of political winds or that they were easy positions at the time. Throw’em a bone stuff.. Hitler was not perfect, but he was definitely 100% of the time doing amazing things for the people’s best interests. I have said before that no leader can be legitimate without embracing eugenics. It should be the #1 concern of true… Read more »
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What’s happening here is that there’s an emergent attempt to arrive at a racial nationalism which is fully philo-Semitic and eager to use the nearest available prop (us) to distinguish themselves from Nazis. Going after the anti-Semites is central to their plan for two reasons: it creates a safe environment for Jews to collaborate with them and it reinforces the perception among observers that they’re not villains. On the surface, it appears to be a pretty sensible strategy. At this late hour in the game, why not try to strike some kind of bargain with our overlords in exchange for… Read more »
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Most economists have ben saying that outsourcing US manufacturing, industry, and jobs is “good for America” (Jewish parasites). I am a Christian – but I am also moving towards “Esoteric Hitlerism”. The more I learn about Hitler, the more I admire Hitler. Everything Americans have been told are vile Talmudic lies. (Quel Suprise!) I feel Hitler was a tragic hero – and he will be vindicated. Sooner than any of us can imagine. Guy Pretending To Be White – Adolf Hitler was the good guy! Hitler was the good guy. I say that all the time, to all sorts of… Read more »
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MLGS – Post #5 – Well done! Bravo!

You’ve said it all.

Denise
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Goy Blight is a total prat. And this is the nicest thing I can think, to write, of him/it.

Denise
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Silver – Post 15. I’ve read your post on the Border Collie thread. I was reading through your blog, last night. I worship you. I am your worshipful admirer. Your slavish devotee. Please devote yourself to aquiring power. I will do anything I can do, to help you attain mastery of the global population. I have not fully loosed my full imagination, on this respectable, intelligent, thoughtful, exquisite blog, as I dont want to “spook the horses” – but I think I could offer some interesting ideas, regarding social policies. And appropriate punishments, for the Enemies of our Race. All… Read more »
Randy
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Heinous Henry,

JFK was his father’s son, and is in my mind with little doubt the reason he was removed from power.

Krista
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Perhaps “Hitler-sympathizer” would be a more accurate termination. I will admit that I have never been able to fully understand National Socialism; there are so many viewpoints on the subject that it is hard to discern against the validity and the invalidity. Either way, it has always seemed to me to be an Economic driven government, which I consider inaccessible for stability, much in the same way I consider Marxism such a farce. However, those who have spoken before me on the great things of Hitler’s character (and faults) I have to concur with. When confusion arises over accusations of… Read more »
Denise
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Krista – Hitler’s ideas were far more comprehensive, and visionary, for his Volk, than mere economic policies.

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This is in honor of the good name of Germany and Dem Deutschen Volke – the German People: ~ Das Lied der Deutschen ~ Deutschlandlied Deutschland, Deutschland über alles, Über alles in der Welt, Wenn es stets zu Schutz und Trutze Brüderlich zusammenhält. Von der Maas bis an die Memel, Von der Etsch bis an den Belt, |: Deutschland, Deutschland über alles, Über alles in der Welt! 😐 Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue, Deutscher Wein und deutscher Sang Sollen in der Welt behalten Ihren alten schönen Klang, Uns zu edler Tat begeistern Unser ganzes Leben lang. |: Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue,… Read more »
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Here is the historical background to the song Deutschlandlied, along with an English translation of the words from German.

(BTW, I didn’t mean to put those faces in the song that I posted above – HTML must have read them mistakingly as such.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutschlandlied

Joanne Dee
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The root of our problem is not economic but our failure to put race ABOVE ALL ELSE!

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Denise, I think you are going to really enjoy this site – ~ Nazi Movies: A Window into the Third Reich History is always written by the winning side. This was never more true than in the case of Nazi Germany. Everything we know about it, or everything we think we know, is filtered through layers of illusion and propaganda. But a few years ago I had a rare opportunity to get an unfiltered view of it. … These movies are amazing, not so much for what is in them as for what is not in them. There are no… Read more »
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The author of that geniebusters site also has a great article about why he is not a nazi. Most of it is that they didn’t do what they set out to do, revitalize the german culture. I wish he would write more, but hasn’t written much since he revealed he knew gwb in elementary school.

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Hitler is interesting and enigmatic, lots of things to admire, but also quite a few things to avoid. I think everyone should read certain parts of Mein Kampf where Hitler has some brilliant things to say about Jews and Bolsheviks, things that still apply today. Some of Hitler’s achievements and ideas are timeless, but the man was far from perfect, and much of his ideology is worthy of the rubbish bin. I think it’s best generally to avoid Hitler worship mainly because Hitler was a German nationalist in the 1930’s-40’s and we are American White Nationalists in 2010, thus Nazism… Read more »
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Ski – Hitelr said, “National Socialism is not for export”.

We know that conditions here, in the USA, are very different.

I am not going to deny his achievements, and vision, however, simply cause the truth about Hitler, and the Reich, are skeery to the White Rubes.

If Rockwell set up a shrine to Hitler – what you problem with it? Yes. It is a bloody disaster he got whacked. Shame Nazi Germany got whacked, too.

Denise
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Kulaks! Thanks!

Joe Walker
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I don’t know why you waste so much time on Guy Jew. All you are doing is giving his Jewish supremacist blog free advertising.

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Here are some other possible motives and reasons why the Establishment and their Marxist-Liberal ‘priest-class’ enforcers never discuss the whole story and saga of what happened to Germany during and after the Second War of White Genocide, er, “WW2” – ~ The Beauty and the Beast: Race and Racism in Europe, Part IV If one accepts this very general and generic definition of racism, then the German people, shortly after WWII, became a prime victim of the most massive form of racism and racial discrimination — unseen and unheard of at any time in the history of mankind. The scope… Read more »
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Hunter,

I enjoyed the book reviews you wrote. Please write some more when you get the chance. Also, the Cornerstone Speech is one of the great moments of the Confederacy.

“Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.” -Alexander H. Stephens, 1861

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I’m a much bigger fan of George Lincoln Rockwell than of Hitler, and wish GLR had been able to first off not be assassinated, but second off, ditch the Nazi worship… — I agree with Denise’s characterization regarding accepting the truth and the facts about National-Socialist Germany (not “Nazi” – a term of derision coined by anti-German bigots), and for this matter we should not ‘…deny his achievements, and vision, however, simply cause the truth about Hitler, and the Reich, are skeery to the White Rubes’. I also couldn’t agree more that most American “Neo-Nazi’s” are deluded proles and certainly… Read more »
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“Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.” -Alexander H. Stephens, 1861 I hope no one actually believes having millions of black slaves is anything but a mistake of catastrophic proportions for a White republic of any sort. If the Amish… Read more »
Sam Davidson
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Randy, I agree with you. Stephens is simply saying that the natural order of things is for our race to subordinate the lesser ones. It doesn’t necessarily follow that we have to live with them.

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Kulaks – exactly. I think a lot of the Neo-Nazis are simply confused would-be Theater Majors, and just want to “put on a show, kids!” – in a way that frightens the adults. I’m fascinated by the things I’m discovering. The Reich, and Dear Old Herr H. are almost the polar opposite the Kosher smelt. The trajectory of the 20th Century now makes sense. A lot of the Kosher Kartoon Nazi devotees would not have fared well, had they actually been able to live in Germany, under Hitler. The Reich was about elevating the Volk – not sick fanatasies, fermented… Read more »
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A “Hitler admirer” is anybody a jew admirer doesn’t like.

Captainchaos
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I admire Hitler, but everybody probably already guessed that. If you’re going to get the grief, why not get the gravy too?

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Maybe ‘Goy Blight’ (LOL) and ethnocentric maniac ‘Larry the Liar’ Auster, who always demonize Germans for “THE Holocaust” can ponder these FACTS before they go on their usual shame-and-blame-game against any ‘gentile’ who merely wishes to acknowledge the realities of Soviet mass-murder and genocide — and who largely was responsible for it. The crimes perpetrated by communists in Eastern Europe from 1918-1953 were colossal and horrendous. The Black Book of Communism estimates 20 million people were murdered by communists in the Soviet Union 1918-1953 and a further 1 million were murdered by communists in other Eastern European countries after WW2.… Read more »
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Admiring Hitler. God have mercy, has it come to this? As a white American who has “woken up” racially, within the past 5 months, one of the biggest obstacles for me has been this admiration among whites of Hitler and his Socialist creature. If Hitler was such a champion for whites, why was his first act of war to invade and crush white Poland and Czechoslovakia? Why destroy white France and England? WW2, which was an act of Socialist agression, was a fratricidal war… among WHITES. Even ignoring any other reason, Hitler deserves eternal derision for this. Are whites looking… Read more »
MGLS
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The desire for cheap labor has been the biggest source of our racial problems throughout history, whether it has been blacks in South Africa and the American South, Asians in the Western United States in the 19th century, Eastern and Southern Europeans in the United States in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, Turks in post-World War II Germany, Caribbeans and South Asians in post-World War II Britain, or Hispanics in the United States today. South Africa and the American South are not at all good models. Demography is destiny. The people who occupy a territory determine the nature… Read more »
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Uh oh… “Though Hitler was indeed racist and anti-Semitic to the core, a man who without compunction could commit murder and genocide, he was also an individual of great courage, a soldier’s soldier in the Great War, a political organizer of the first rank, a leader steeped in the history of Europe, who possessed oratorical powers that could awe even those who despised him…Hitler’s success was not based on his extraordinary gifts alone. His genius was an intuitive sense of the mushiness, the character flaws, the weakness masquerading as morality that was in the hearts of the statesmen who stood… Read more »
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I don’t think that Hunter gives Hitler enough credit. Hunter says that Hitler did some good things, but so did Lincoln and FDR, thus it is no more accurate to call HW a Hitler-admirer than it is to call him a Lincoln-admirer. Fair enough. But an important distinction needs to be made here: there are policies, and then there are the goals pursued through the policies. One cannot really evaluate a statesman just by looking at his policies. One has to ask about the goals he is pursuing. And I have to ask: of the three statesmen — Hitler, Lincoln,… Read more »
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Note that Hitler had many fatal character traits and is responsible fpr errors that brought the downfall and the final Götterdämmmerung. The biggest one was that he entered the Sowjetunion as a conqueror, not as a liberator from the Stalinistic rule. In fact in the Ukraine German troops were greeted a such, but this mood turned over pretty quickly after Hitler’s oppressive colonial policy. Still, an army of almost one million Russians was raised under General Wlassow, but few saw action in combat. Hitler’s racial thinking excluded the slaws, and in that respect he was still caught in 19th century… Read more »
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