Editor’s Note: I’ve been prevailed upon to tone this down. I had considered doing so. I thought I might have overreacted. In light of Jim Giles’ unhinged, batshit insane rants this morning though, screaming at the top of his lungs into his microphone, denouncing everyone on this site and beyond, I have decided not to do so.
A small sample:
“Fuck you little pussies. Fuck you intellectuals. Fuck every last one of you. You chickenshit. Where is your fucking honor. You anonymous sorry shit. Fuck you Occidental Dipshit. God damn. I feel embarrassed for having associated myself with some of these people. There is something wrong with your courage, manhood, mental stability, faith. That’s why I talk about Wyatt Earp. Legal Wyaat Earp. None of this horseshit. You don’t care enough about your own to protect them.”
- Jim Giles
Yesterday, I appeared as a guest on the Jim Giles radio show, Radio Free Mississippi. It would be an understatement to say that the interview was not what I expected. Jim Giles sent me an email, requested an interview, and I agreed to talk with him about Alex Linder, who I had been carrying on a civil but spirited debate with on Occidental Dissent and VNN Forum.
I was under the impression that this interview would be like previous ones. I thought Giles would just ask me a few questions, we would carry on some friendly banter, a few relevant points of disagreement would be addressed, and that would be the end of it. I thought my interview would be like the ones Giles had conducted with Jared Taylor, Kevin MacDonald, Elizabeth Whitcombe, Robert Campbell, Simon Darby, Arthur Kemp, Harold Covington, Soren Renner, James Bowery, Kievsky, etc. I thought (at the very worst) that my interview might be like those with Jewish anti-racists, open and avowed enemies of the movement, such as Mark Potok (SPLC) or Tim Wise.
Gosh, was I ever mistaken.
Within minutes of raising me on the phone, Giles announced that this interview would not be like previous ones. Unlike Mark Potok or Tim Wise, Jim Giles said that he was really going to grill me. He was going to “shift gears.” Okay, I think to myself: you have been a little too easy on previous guests, so that’s fine, ask me some tough questions, I am willing to answer them.
For the record, this was my first interview ever. I went on the Jim Giles show because I thought he was making a useful contribution to the movement. I thought to myself: gee, the White Nationalist movement could use a talk radio show, Giles has done a number of great interviews, I should “do the White thing” and appear as a guest to help spur along his blossoming project. I had been promoting his interviews for over a month and sending traffic to his site. Appearing as a guest on his show struck me as a logical extension of that. I had encouraged others to make appearances.
For a week or so now, I had been debating Alex Linder on various issues. I had been carrying on a friendly, collegial exchanges of views with him. This was in spite of his abusive personal attacks on Greg Johnson, a good friend of mine, and Jared Taylor, another friend of mine, not to mention his long history of attacking others in the movement. Linder was slinging mud at both of these gentlemen, whose commitment to the movement is unquestionable, but I was willing to look the other way. I tried hard – damn hard - to separate the good from the bad.
Unlike virtually everyone else in the movement, I was trying to see the best in Alex Linder. Previously, Alex had argued that White Nationalists were people who 1.) named the Jew, 2.) were explicitly racial, and 3.) who endorsed the ethnostate. For this reason, I had been calling him an “ally.”
Lately, Alex has changed his position: in his mind, everyone who doesn’t endorse genocide of the Jews is now a “paleoconservative,” not a White Nationalist. As such, they are outside the “in-group,” where Gentile ideals such as decency, civility, courtesy, honor, and morality are applicable. The paleos believe in these things … what a powerful criticism.
Dr. Kevin MacDonald is now a paleocon, Jared Taylor is a paleocon, Greg Johnson is now a paleocon, I am a paleocon, everyone who writes for TOQ Online or Occidental Observer is a paleocon. We’re all of the same point of view as Sam Francis or Pat Buchanan. In his latest posts, Linder started to gleefully entertain the possibility of destroying the TOO/TOQ community. He posted that minutes before the interview. This should have set off red sirens in my mind. It did not. Not even then.
So, I go on the Jim Giles show, and I find myself discussing genocide, or exterminating the Jews (and possibly homosexuals), with one of Linder’s bloodthirsty fans. I also found myself on the racialist equivilant of the Jerry Springer Show discussing Greg Johnson’s personal life. In the beginning of the interview, I was uncomfortable. In the middle, I was getting sick to my stomach. By the end of the interview, I was furious.
I challenge anyone to listen to this interview and say otherwise.
It has been a long time since I have experienced moral outrage. As an intellectual, I am emotionally tone deaf. That is my major weakness: feeling or empathizing with others. I tend to evaluate everyone and everything from a detached, analytical perspective. I value reason, tolerance, and openmindedness. I believe in looking at the other guy’s point of view, critically analyzing it, and letting him speak his mind. I’ve tried real hard not to be quarrelsome like I was in the past.
I had a delayed emotional reaction to what Linder was actually saying. Somewhere in the Giles interview, the magnitude of the atrocity being advocated, the hinting around that I really believe innocent people should be exterminated (like cockroaches or animals), but that I can’t say so in public … it sunk in, it finally hit me square between the eyes.
In my entire life, I have rarely felt so guilty or ashamed, or embarrassed: I had been carrying on with these people, apologizing for them, promoting them for months. I found out that I do have a moral sense. I went into the interview convinced that denouncing those to my right was a bad idea. I left the interview with the opposite point of view. It also occurred to me that I have been wrong about a lot of things.
For starters, I have been unfair to Guy White and Ian Jobling. It is clear to me now that the extreme anti-Semitism within the White Nationalist movement promoted by genocidal maniacs is a serious problem. At least in this respect, Guy White and Ian Jobling have a valid point. I’m not ready to go as far as friedrich braun has, but I am not in the least surprised by the path he has taken. Not at all.
I want nothing to do with Jim Giles or Alex Linder ever again. This will be the last post about either of them on this website. I have delinked their websites, banned their IP addresses, and added both to the comment filter. I want nothing to do with those associated with either of these men. They are free to spew their sick, disgusting, evil ideas on their own websites, but they will never again find a platform on mine.
I’m also taking a small break from blogging. I need a few days to sit down and seriously reflect upon everything else I may have been wrong about. I’ve spent way too much time on the internet lately. I’m exhausted and want to enjoy the Christmas season. I won’t touch the Jewish Question again before examining it with a moral eye. How did I become so morally broken that I was willing to engage these degenerates?
In the future, I won’t waste my talent making life easier for Jim Giles or Alex Linder to spread their hateful message … of that much I am certain. I’ve already advised others to do so as well.
Notice: This will be the last thread in which discussions of Alex Linder, Jim Giles, RFM, or VNN will be allowed. In future threads, references to any of the above will airbrushed out or deleted. We’re going to move on to more productive topics. Those who want to engage either Giles or Linder know which rocks they can be found under. I’m also locking this thread at 100 comments.
Also: I know that I will be criticized “for sounding like a leftist” and “using enemy rhetoric.” That’s fine. It is worth considering that Jim Giles and Alex Linder were able to push those buttons even in me. That is almost impossible. Giles deliberately set out to elicit an emotional reaction. He got one.
Normal people … they don’t analyze these issues like I do. They only hear a Neo-Nazi psychopath talking about murdering Jews or a Klansman from Mississippi plotting a lynching. That’s not the image White Nationalism needs to project.
I believe Fred Scrooby’s story.
It is perfectly possible for Jewish people to join anti-Jewish movements and ideologies. Look at Bobby Fischer, Daniel Burros, Frank Collin (Jewish dad, not considered a Jew), Jews who convert to Islam, individual Jews in Hitler’s army (this is a fact, but I believe in the holocaust).
“Alex Linder wants to aide the federal authorities by making it compulsory for VNN posters to give their true identities. ”
And he’ll do it. People are naive if they think otherwise.
Not necessarily give it to feds but he’ll out prozium if he can.
One way to detect a bottom-feeder and mental defective of the VNN variety is when they claim that staking an anti-Semitic position equals strength and accuse one of effeminacy, if one isn’t anti-Semitic. Of course, one could reply that being called a pussy by a pseudonym is laughable in itself. Anti-Semitism is in point of fact a sign of weakness, a character flaw, a revolt of the subterranean man.
Linder is going to seriously regret not taking my advice. I’m being criticized over at VNN Forum for my reaction to Jim Giles! In the interview, I emphatically said that I didn’t endorse the shit that Giles and Linder were pushing. I said time and again that it was evil and immoral.
The next day, I posted the above, condemned both of them, cut ties with both of them. That was the proper reaction. These last two broadcasts have proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Jim Giles is either 1.) an agent provocateur like Hal Turner or 2.) a psycho inciting others to commit murder on internet radio. He is either 1.) going down himself and taking others with him or 2.) encouraging others to do something illegal (at the suggestion of his handlers) to draw them out into the open.
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Grimoire is detached from reality and in Lahlahland. I’m talking about ways of achieving success in practical politics, he’s pretending to be Byron.
Let me be clear, I want Jews inside the tent. They can be an incredible asset and appeal to the eugenicist in me. They are a people of immense talent, energy, organization, skill, work ethic, determination, drive, intelligence…I want to extend my hand in genuine friendship and love and say: “I want you to work with me for a better future for us!” I want White Nationalism to not only include Jews, I want them at all levels of power and authority.
This has gone on long enough.
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