Guy White on Nazis
Nov 16th, 2009 by Hunter Wallace
As you can see, it is his favorite subject. This was so good that I felt compelled to share it with my favorite philo-Semitic blogger. A few days ago, Guy White had this to say about Arthur Kemp:
Whatever questions that may have existed about Kemp should now be erased. He’s most certainly not a Nazi.
I found this photo on the website of one of his Mediterranean antagonists. Oy gevalt!
Update: A commentator has claimed this photo is fake. I’m waiting for him or someone else to produce the original.
Hunter Wallace, did you catch this quote from the Blog?
“… read their own blogs and just cannot understand how someone who’s not a Jew (or married to one) could be opposed to them. ”
Hmm… perhaps a freudian slip (chuckle) revealing that Guy White is married to a Jewess?
He obsesses over the issue. Judging from his behavior, it is entirely reasonable to assume that he has some personal stake in the outcome of the debate. That’s why people accuse him of being Jewish, having a Jewish wife, working for a Jewish organization, etc.
The average White Gentile doesn’t obsess over “anti-Semitism” on a daily basis. The average White racialist cares even less about the matter. The overwhelming majority of the people who invest that much time in writing about “anti-Semitism” are ethnocentric Jews.
Guy White is a piece of garbage. I wouldn’t be surprised if he had a jew wife.
“Judging from his behavior, it is entirely reasonable to assume that he has some personal stake in the outcome of the debate. ”
Yes.
One thing I have observed as a generality is that hard-core anti-Racists (joiners of organizations and such) are usually involved in inter-racial relationships and this is what spurs them in their anti-racism! They don’t want sensible anti-miscegenation laws to return. The same thing is probably true for a type like Guy White but he is just involved with a Jewess.
That picture is a fake and has been doing the rounds for a long time now. It has obviously been photoshopped onto a nutty picture of Kemp fooling around with a cowboy hat. Kemp has the original up somewhere on his blog. I will try and find it and send the URL.
Told ya so.
One thing I have observed as a generality is that hard-core anti-Racists (joiners of organizations and such) are usually involved in inter-racial relationships and this is what spurs them in their anti-racism!
It is entirely self-centered, yes, and what’s worse is my observation that these scumbags often seem to be on some personal crusade to mix whites out of existence. It is a vile, mentally defective view of the world, I don’t care how “cool” it is. These are people whose self-loathing spills into a need to alter other people as well. It is disgusting, psychopathic and degenerate.
Harsh Henry
One thing I have observed as a generality is that hard-core anti-Racists (joiners of organizations and such) are usually involved in inter-racial relationships and this is what spurs them in their anti-racism!
Or they’re stuck with the results of past interracial relationships, mixed race children.
The possibility that their children might be excluded from citizenship gives them a lot of motivation.
Produce the original photo.
To: G.W.
I’m not “obsessed” with you. I just thought you might be interested in that photo given your previous comment about Arthur Kemp. As for you having Jewish ancestry, a Jewish wife, or working for a Jewish organization, I remain agnostic on all the above. I don’t know you personally or enough about your background to make any substantial accusations; unlike your unfounded claim that I became an anti-Semite after being rejected from law school.
People say these things about you because (in their minds) these theories explain (and predict) your behavior, not because they are crazy. The vast majority of people who are obsessed with “fighting anti-Semitism” are ethnocentric Jews. You write more about “anti-Semitism” than Half Sigma and Lawrence Auster. You’re far more philo-Semitic than David Kelsey. It is not unreasonable to suspect that you are Jewish yourself or have a Jewish spouse.
If you would like to clear the air regarding these misunderstandings, I suggest you do a biographical post and explain to the gallery how you came to hold such extreme philo-Semitic views.
To G.W.:
You haven’t taken a far greater interest in the Boers or Poles.
People say these things about you because (in their minds) these theories explain (and predict) your behavior, not because they are crazy.
They also say these things because they’re largely incapable of grasping how much racialism can rattle people. Racialism is troubling, it’s unsettling. It’s quite understandable that people would be wary of what they’re being asked to think. You scoff at that and defend doing so by saying you have far more important issues to attend to. But being a Nazi is no trivial distinction. Nazis are distinguished by their white-hot and unquenchable racial loathing; they have pinpointed the source of their travails (the Jews) and long to extirpate it, with all else playing second fiddle to that overriding objective, and in the process of concentrating their minds on that objective they become something, well, anti-human. So for one anonymous contributor to The Occidental Quarterly, some professor, had the Nazis bumped off the infamous six million it would have been no more than a little harmless house cleaning, certainly nothing to lose any sleep over. Being on one’s guard against allowing such thoughts and feelings to overwhelm one need have nothing to do with being a “philo-semite.”
A “racial enemy” is an enemy unlike other enemies. He is an “enemy” only insofar as he exists “in the wrong part of the world” (or, perhaps for some extreme Nazis — the extreme of the extreme — insofar as he exists at all). But he needn’t doing anything more than exist; it’s not his criminality, not his IQ, not his cultural animosity. He’s just there, threatening with every breath he takes to breed you out of existence. And for that, the Nazi tells you, he should be treated just as any other wartime foe. It’s hardly surprising, then, that some (”moderate racialists”) should choose to take the time to distance themselves from such views and to ponder whether there is any natural check on racialism that would prevent it going so far.
I’m not losing any sleep over Bill White, World Commander of National Socialism, or the NSM. Toons like that have always existed on the fringe of American politics.
Their anarchist opponents tend to be more violent. An anarchist assassinated President William McKinley.
To G.W.:
I have a different recollection. In late June, I briefly mentioned you (Guy White, Moderate) in a mildly critical post about race realists. You responded the very next day - not two months later. Two weeks later (Jews and Politics), you showed up on Occidental Dissent and called me a “lying piece of garbage” and promised never to read this blog again.
Your first post on Guy White
http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2009/06/29/guy-white-moderate/
Guy White responds “several months” later
http://guywhite.wordpress.com/2009/06/29/fighting-for-respectability-or-asking-for-the-truth/
He’s now claiming that I am the reason he is an extreme philo-Semite. My first post about him (Guy White, Moderate) was a response to his “Is Pro-White activism harmed by radicalism?”
http://guywhite.wordpress.com/2009/06/29/is-pro-white-activism-harmed-by-radicalism/
In that post, Guy White:
1.) Bashes Nazism.
2.) Bitches about psychotic conspiracy theories.
3.) Whines that anti-Semites are insane.
4.) Claims he rejected “extremism” in April.
5.) Compares Nazis and anti-Semites to Afrocentrists.
6.) Says he was “forced into pro-Jewish arguments I really didn’t feel like making.”
The Guy White we have all come to know is singing the same philo-Semitic tune he was before he had ever heard of this website.
“They also say these things because they’re largely incapable of grasping how much racialism can rattle people. Racialism is troubling, it’s unsettling. It’s quite understandable that people would be wary of what they’re being asked to think.”
Ask the folks if they want to go back to an older America, as envisioned by the Founders.
Then inform them of the Naturalization Act of 1790. Clearly, this country was intended to be RACIALLY White:
“. . .that any alien, being a free white person, who shall have resided within the limits and under the jurisdiction of the United States for the term of two years, may be admitted to become a citizen thereof, on application to any common law court of record, in any one of the States wherein he shall have resided for the term of one year at least, and making proof to the satisfaction of such court, that he is a person of good character, and taking the oath or affirmation prescribed by law, to support the Constitution of the United States…”
America was founded on racialist grounds, not as a proposition country.
Therefore real patriotism is racist!
Let me respond here for once. I found this blog first when I googled “guy white” and found several attacks against myself, as well as Lawrence Auster and “a crypto-Semitic race trator like Jared Taylor.”
I found two quotes against me (”Paleos and White Naitonalists” and “Smoking Out Auster”), and in fairness both of them were in your comments section. I think were were some other mentions of me in your posts too, but in any event, my first impression of this this place was that this was a GW-bashing blog. I left and forgot about it, but at one point you decided to include me in your daily assaults against those on the right who are just not right-wing enough for you.
Your blog dedicates far more time bashing the right than the left, including every single right-wing ideology: conservatives, paleos, neocons, libertarians, Wall Street cons, Evangelicals, patriots, etc. I disagree with all of them to some degree too, and I’ve made that clear in many posts on my blog, but the left presents a bigger issue for me. Not for you, however.
The key words you wrote is that I “responded”. That’s right. You and your readers sit here trashing every rightist - of every kind - who crosses you, including Jared Taylor.
To the degree I responded to the AS, you and others, it was a response, often to the comments posted on my own blog or your posts written directly about me.
I suggest you review my blog in 2008 before the AS showed up. I never wrote about the Jews, and yes, I did wrote often about South Africa and Zimbabwe.
But for over a year, I kept getting almost daily emails urging me to speak about how the Jews control our government and the Holocaust is a lie invented to destroy the white race. I left the topic alone because it wasn’t (then) of any interest to me, but certain things did leave with me a feeling that I am not dealing with honest people.
One wrote to me that “goy” means pig. I checked the word’s meaning, and it means nation or people. Criticize the Jews all you want, but lying is not a good idea, whether we are talking about the Jews or others.
I want my blog to be more realist and therefore truthful. You are different in that your goal is merely to promote white nationalism by any means necessary. And that’s fine with me.
I do believe that some non-Europeans - the Jews, the Orientals - are more intelligent on average, and therefore, will be more successful, and again therefore, will be more influential. This is no different than the tiny white minority in some African countries like Kenya being wealthier and more influential (per person) than the locals.
But it’s radically different from suggesting that Jews control the world, and the poor German government - with a massive military - is forced to admit guilt for an invent that allegedly didn’t happen.
Believe it or not, but my Jew Power series was not meant to address you, but the folks who believe what I just wrote above (a.k.a. most of your readers).
You may not want to admit it to your audience, but you know that the Holocaust happened more or less as history says it did with 4-6 million people who were killed by various means that included gassing, shooting, starvation and insanitary conditions caused by the Germans.
At the end of the day, I don’t believe that you are crazy enough to think that 3 million Polish Jews magically vanished, nor that the Polish government was lying about its demographics for 400 years, and building synagogues and Jewish cemeteries for 4 centuries just to screw the Germans. Over 90% of a community doesn’t just die, not even during war. (Only 10% of Polish Catholics died and Poland took a bigger civilian hit per capita than any other country.)
While you are accusing me of lying to please someone, the honest truth is that the direct opposite is the case: you are picking fights with other conservatives and refusing to take sides on issues like the Holocaust precisely because your visitors really are crazy enough to believe that Poland was faking having millions of Jews for four centuries, and all those old synagogues and cemeteries are fake. You know that the Holocaust happened, and that’s why you refuse to take sides.
I don’t know if you were honest about having a Master’s in Politics, but I can see you having a graduate degree. I still think that your sudden interest in Jews is most likely the product of this degree not being your first career choice (it almost never is), but that’s just a guess and for what it’s worth, you are decently intelligent and I don’t know what happened that caused you to get a Politics MA.
Your readers, however, holy crap! Joe Biden is an Iraqi Jew?!
Admittedly, every time I get a boost in traffic, I wind up with a few idiots. But I block them. Not because they disagree with me. If you look through my posts in the summer, there was a girl who sang my praises, but I just didn’t think she added anything intelligent with her posts, so I stopped her clutter.
Read through my old posts. I blocked crazy Jews, nutty Christians, liberals, conservatives, anyone who added nothing intelligent with their comments.
If you want to allow imbecilic comments here, good for you. This is your blog and if you feel that you benefit from being affiliated with people who think Tim Geithner is a Jew (no, he’s an Aryan) and that this proves a Jewish Conspiracy to ruin the American economy, that’s fine because it’s your blog.
But you seem to be dragged by your visitors rather than running your own blog.
Ultimately, even on the Jewish Question, you aren’t the radical most of your readers are, and in order to please them, you feel the need to attack others on the right to prove your credentials.
However, your attacks have the exact opposite effect they are meant to. When you attack people, they will defend the position they believe is right.
This is particularly true when you are attacking from a crazy position.
Today I got an email saying that Oliver North warned the Senate in 1987 about Osama bin Ladin and Al Gore laughed at him. It’s false. It’s obviously false. It’s stupid and no person who knows anything about politics could believe it. So I responded back to the person warning him not to make himself look like an idiot with this kind of stuff in the future.
The AS position is usually that crazy. If you want to discuss Jews having more power than their demographic numbers would suggest, that’s legitimate. If you start saying crazy things that nuclear China admits the Holocaust because Jews control the world, then you’ll be called out on it.
Likewise, when you make things personal, people will not suddenly see the light and agree that their effigies should be burned.
Our positions on the Jews - despite your AS brand and my PS brand - are not radically different, and if you stayed away from my blog, I’d stay away from yours. Or maybe I’d even read it sometimes, but there certainly wouldn’t be a back-and-forth dispute. I would skip the comments on your blog, but I certainly don’t have any reason to tell you whom you should and should not allow to comment on your own blog.
I don’t know what you do for a living, but obsessing over an obscure blogger like me can’t be good for you. Go outside. Get some air. See a movie. You’ll understand just how unimportant Guy White and his wife are to you.
But I suspect that you are afraid that if you stop bashing me and others on the right, someone might question your inadequate Holocaust and Conspiracy credentials.
Or maybe you just feel the need to constantly fight with people.
My response:
1.) I have never attacked Jared Taylor anywhere on this blog. In fact, I have defended him from Alex Linder’s attacks over the years. In “Jared Taylor: Friend or Foe,” I explicitly said that he is not our enemy and explained his management style at Amren.
2.) I’ve actually met Jared in real life. I know he reads this blog. It was the first thing he told me. I count him as a friend of mine.
3.) I will be attending the next AR conference in February.
4.) I reread both of the posts you cited. I never mentioned you in either of those threads (in the OP or the comments).
5.) The first time I wrote anything about you was on June 29th in “Guy White, Moderate.”
6.) You responded on June 29th in “Fighting for Respectability or Asking for the Truth,” not two months later, as you said on your blog.
7.) You write far more about “anti-Semites” and “Nazis” than the Left. A search of your blog for “Jews” reveals multiple hits going all the way back to your very first blog entry.
8.) I don’t trash “rightists” of every stripe. I’ve criticized a handful of people for various reasons in the pro-White movement, namely, the philo-Semites. Likewise, you have written harshly about Kevin MacDonald and David Duke.
9.) I have good relations with most people in the WN movement. I know a lot of these people (including Jared Taylor) in real life. I write for TOQ Online.
10.) You were crusading against Neo-Nazis and anti-Semites long before you ever met me.
11.) You responded to me in multiple blog entries throughout the Summer and Fall.
12.) I searched your blog for “Boers” and “Poles” the other day. I found a handful of entries. A search for “Jews” turns up far and away more hits.
13.) I haven’t lied anywhere about the Jews.
14.) A really smart and talented enemy is still an enemy.
15.) I don’t have much interest in the Third Reich and zero interest in the Holocaust. I rarely write about European issues, period. That has always been my policy. The original subtitle of this blog was “Racial and Cultural Preservation in North America.”
16.) I have zero interest in Polish history: ancient, medieval, modern. I don’t write about the Holocaust because - surprise, surprise - it doesn’t interest me.
17.) The Holocaust is irrelevant to the Jewish problem we have in the United States.
18.) I became interested in the Jewish Question as an undergraduate at Auburn University. I believe this was late 2001/early 2002. It had absolutely nothing to do with my career choice. There aren’t many Jews in East Alabama.
19.) I have never censored anyone here (including you) for presenting an opposing view. The commentators often say kooky things, or things that I don’t agree with, but their views are not mine.
20.) I have never attacked anyone here to please my readers.
21.) I have never said that Jews control the world.
22.) I don’t know where you got the idea that I said you should be burned in effigy. I’ve only criticized you for the philo-Semitic stance you have taken.
Guy White
At the end of the day, I don’t believe that you are crazy enough to think that 3 million Polish Jews magically vanished, nor that the Polish government was lying about its demographics for 400 years, and building synagogues and Jewish cemeteries for 4 centuries just to screw the Germans. Over 90% of a community doesn’t just die, not even during war. (Only 10% of Polish Catholics died and Poland took a bigger civilian hit per capita than any other country.)
The most obvious explanation for the absence of jews from postwar Poland is that after being persecuted (no one denies that the jews were persecuted in occupied Poland) they decided to take advantage of the chaotic situation to emigrate to the United States where the largest jewish community in the world would welcome them, and where white people were very naive about typical jew behavior. Many others probably ended up in Palestine.
This theory is more credible than the six million dead, which should have left some evidence in the form of mass graves, even if the mass graves were full of cremated remains. Cremation does not reduce the whole body to unidentifiable ash, it leaves large bone fragments as any funeral director can tell you.
The hoax could be believed until the fall of the Iron Curtain opened up Eastern Europe to western historians and no mass graves were discovered.
The sequence of this latest exchange:
1.) I wrote a post about Arthur Kemp (Can America Be Saved? I).
2.) Guy White responded to me (Arthur Kemp and White Nationalism).
3.) I responded to Guy White (Can America Be Saved? II).
4.) Guy White mentions me in a post about Alexa traffic (A quick Alexa explanation).
5.) I post the Arthur Kemp photo for Guy White’s benefit (Guy White on Nazis).
6.) Guy White reposts it on his blog (Arthur Kemp a Nazi?).
7.) Guy White writes another post about deranged anti-Semites and mentions me (What the hell is wrong with you?).
8.) Guy White blames me for becoming a philo-Semite (The Wrong Focus). He says that I attacked him for two months before he responded; false, as we have seen.
But somehow I am the one who is “obsessed” with him.
Guy, you should be thankful in a way, Hunter is giving you free publicity. I, and probably many others here, would have never heard of you and wouldn’t have visited your blog if not for Hunter discussing you.
The interaction between you two is a curious one. Is it a love-hate thing? Because you two talk about each other quite often. I think Hunter has talked about you more than any other single person.
Hunter, if you’re the sole reason for Guy’s dedication to philo-Semitism then you should take it as a compliment that you can motivate someone to spend so much of their life doing something.
“It’s hardly surprising, then, that some (”moderate racialists”) should choose to take the time to distance themselves from such views and to ponder whether there is any natural check on racialism that would prevent it going so far.”
I don’t see liberals agonizing that socialism might go too far or lack any natural check and give us the NKVD death squads, the Gulag system, Lubyanka, the Great Leap Forward, the Cultural Revolutions, etc. and 100 million dead like in the last century. No, Silver does a good job at internalizing the standard Jewish attack on any racial feelings of solidarity or concern for their interests on the part of Whites by throwing Auschwitz in their faces. “Discourse as war” as someone said recently.
Hunter,
1. Please understand. Sometimes I write because I hear something from someone. You wrote about Kemp. I thought I should weigh in on that. It’s not an attack against you. I just had my own thoughts.
You did that to another blogger a couple months ago. Just because someone writes on the same topic, doesn’t mean that it’s directed at you. Notice that even here, I wrote about AS in general and you responded as if each claim is directed at you individually.
2. Check my blog prior to March or April or so. There was very little discussion of Jews. There was a section on South Africa, but nothing on Jews until recent weeks. I did decide to open the topic prior to you, but it was dying off until you decided to obsess with every word I write.
3. As for trashing right-wingers, it’s either you or your readers who do it daily. Like I said, you aren’t as extreme as most of them, which is why you have to take an agnostic position on certain issues. But my immediate impression of OD was that it’s a place where extremists bash the rest of the right.
And to be honest, every time I popped up here, there was an attack against someone on the right.
4. I did make my disdain for the Nazis clear even before you, but until the flood of anti-Semites who wanted to join in a discussion of the Holocaust, there was very little (though some) discussion of the Nazis, and far, far more of the leftists.
Several people, like OneSTDV and others, commented in the spring that during the first year of my blog, they weren’t sure if I am a Nazi myself, but were relieved that I wasn’t.
On the other side, I was invited to join all sorts of neo-Nazi organizations, including Stormfront and various Yahoo groups, again because the people assumed that being pro-White means being anti-Semitic.
5. You really are obsessed with me. I write something and the next time I come to my PC, there’s almost always a response from you.
You need to relax and breath. If you post a picture of Kemp and I repost it on my blog with a thank you note, then take it as a compliment, not another reason to get hysterical.
I’ve reposted stuff from other blogs all the time without anyone reacting as you did.
6. As far as your readers go, OldRight is a good example. He claims that 6 million Jews suddenly disappeared from Europe because they went to the US and Israel. To this day, Israel doesn’t have 6 million Jews. In fact, the number of Ashkenazi (European) Jews is 3 million TODAY. In 1945, there were fewer than half a million of them. Fewer than 100,000 of them arrived during the war. The same is true in the US: only about 100,000 arrived during the war. That’s 200,000 for Israel and the US, and no other country took a significant number (more than a few thousand) of Jews. What about the rest?
The amount of evidence for the Holocaust is greater than for any criminal case I’ve ever seen when I worked in the DA’s office. If we couldn’t prove the Holocaust, we can’t prove a single crime out there. I am not going to go through it right now, but let’s just say that when 90% of the population disappears and fails to reappear elsewhere, only one explanation is possible. Unlike your readers, I think you know what that reason is.
And yes, like I said, had it not been for you, I would have gone back to writing about the same thing I wrote about the first year of the blog.
But you inspire me.
I think I’ll go write about the pre-trial Huntley hearing as it connects to claims that poor Nazis were tortured by ZOG to admit to the Holocaust.
Guy White, how come you mention HW on your blog but never link to his site? It seem bad form.
By the way, I didn’t realize that I responded to your original post about me in June. You weren’t really all that prominent in my mind. But notice that for the following month, I totally ignored you as you “shadowed” everything I wrote. I couldn’t excuse myself to go to the bathroom without a lengthy response on your blog.
It was only on July 26 that I wrote:
[http://guywhite.wordpress.com/2009/07/26/obsession/]
And it did.
Tendentious argument. I’m afraid Dr. Rudolf and others have had differing opinions on this matter. But were they allowed to air them? No, they were thrown in jail. That doesn’t speak very well to your ability to refute their findings, generally when the evidence is on your side you can debate the points without fear. The censorship suggests that you Holocaust-maniacs fear honest investigation.
“Guy White:
On the other side, I was invited to join all sorts of neo-Nazi organizations, including Stormfront and various Yahoo groups, again because the people assumed that being pro-White means being anti-Semitic.”
They also probably assumed being pro-white means you don’t consider a quadroon white. Not so with GW! He’s full of surprises!
Do you also come away with the feeling GW is a compulsive liar and an asshole?
So, “Guy White”, which family member of yours is Jewish? Go ahead, tell us.
I find it amusing that “Guy White” doesn’t even realize that the number “6″ is a very important mystical number in the Jewish religion.
What a naive and ignorant twit.
Several people, like OneSTDV and others, commented in the spring that during the first year of my blog, they weren’t sure if I am a Nazi myself, but were relieved that I wasn’t.
No they weren’t concerned whether you were “a Nazi.” They were concerned that you might have been pro-white instead of a philo-Semitic, pro-Asian, pro-black “race realist.” Many of the HBD/Race Realist types are hostile to white racialists.
ZOG,
Any proof that 6 has a special significance? Which part of the Old Testament says it? All holy books, including Jewish ones, are online. Care to point to a page that says 6 is special? And if it is, what does that mean for the Holocaust? That 6 million Jews disappeared in Europe and failed to re-appear elsewhere should be discounted because 6 may be a special number? (It’s not, but let’s go alone with it.)
As for Dr. Rudolf, his investigation was utter bs. If you spray something on the wall, whether it’s gas or roach spray or paint, it won’t penetrate deep into the wall, which is where he conducted his study. The Polish government checked the very top layer of the wall and found proof that Rudolf failed to find.
His study is an equivalent of looking for paint on your wall deep inside the stone, and then claiming that rumors of any house being painted are a hoax.
Anyway, I addressed this before on my blog. I might cut and paste some parts of it and post a FAQ for you. I won’t address that here.
But as Hunter can see, Holocaust is the most emotional issue for his flock, complete with crazy conspiracy theories.
Yes, poor China with nuclear weapons and a billion people. It just can’t defend itself from the Jewish conspiracy and has to lie about the Holocaust. The whole world just can’t stand up to 13 million Jews and has to lie.
And that’s the root of anti-Semitism. Insanity. Deranged insanity. 6 million people fall off the face of the Earth and the explanation for it is that a billion nuclear-armed Chinese in a country with no Jews are all afraid of the Jews. Yup, makes sense.
6 million Jews live in the United States alone. Another 5 1/2 million live in Israel. Another 3-4 million live in Europe, Canada, and Australia.
I guess all these Jews just materialized out of thin air, huh, Guy Weiss?
Not only does the number ‘6′ have special religious significance in Judaism, but the Jews tried to claim that ‘6 million’ of them died several times before WWII even occurred.
Read and learn, Guy Weiss.
The Sacred Nature of Six Million in the Judaic Religion
http://finalconflictblog.blogspot.com/2009/02/sacred-nature-of-six-million-in-judaic.html
Yes, I explained that before.
6 million Jews lived in Russia, which included Poland at the time, during WWI. The Russian Czar and his White Army initiated a genocide that resulted in 100,000 Jews getting killed, and would’ve had all of them killed had the White Army not lost. A true sign of a deranged conspiracist is looking for any conspiracy at any point in history and claiming it as proof.
As for 6 million Jews in the US, almost all of them came prior to the immigration restrictions in the 1920s.
Europe, Canada and Australia have 1 million Jews, not four.
Israel’s population is mostly Arab/Sephardic Jews with only 2.5 to 3 million Ashkenazi.
The point isn’t how many Jews are alive, but how many disappeared. By your logic, there was no murder of 50 million Chinese people by the Communists because hey, there are 1.3 billion of them still left.
Poland lost 90% of its Jews. These 3 million Polish Jews failed to appear anywhere else. Immigration to the US and Palestine was closed except for a small trickle. There were no new Jewish communities established in either place. Your argument is so idiotic, I can’t believe I am even responding to you.
I’ve addressed all these claims before because all of them are repeated by the neo-Nazis everywhere, and certainly on my blog by those who invaded in the spring.
“A true sign of a deranged conspiracist is looking for any conspiracy at any point in history and claiming it as proof.”
I meant “A true sign of a deranged conspiracist is looking for any COINCIDENCE at any point in history and claiming it as proof of a conspiracy.”
Jews Squealed About a “holocaust” of “6 Million” Jews in Romania, Poland and Ukraine in 1919 at end of WWI
http://thy-weapon-of-war.blogspot.com/2009/02/jews-squealed-about-holocaust-of-6.html
The Jews have a documented history of fabricating alleged “genocides” of their people, and specifically a “holocaust of 6 million.” For example, an October 31, 1919 article in The American Hebrew journal entitled “The Crucifixion of Jews Must Stop!” warned of the impending mass murder and starvation of “six million” Jews in Eastern Europe, specifically using the term “holocaust” to describe the alleged situation.
Early Holohoax Tale - 64 million Jewish children wrapped in scrolls and burned by the Romans in 2nd century A.D.
http://thy-weapon-of-war.blogspot.com/2008/12/early-holohoax-tale-64-million-jewish.html
Yes, as I figured. Your citation is an anti-Semitic blog. But why use a secondary source when a first hand one should be freely available? Why not show me directly in Jewish books where it says that? Forgive me if I don’t bother reading crap. Show me something from the Old Testament that says that 6 million is a sacred number.
Introduction to the Holocaust™ Hoax
http://thy-weapon-of-war.blogspot.com/2008/11/holocaust-hoax.html
The rabbis themselves say that ‘6′ is a sacred number in Judaism, dipshit. It’s kabala numerology. You did know that the rabbis are obsessed with numerology, didn’t you?
Read that article, you lazy fuck.
Polish Jew “testifies” before U.S. Congress in March 1945 of the “murder of 6,000,000 jews” by the Germans in Europe
This was long before any determination of the numbers of dead in the German camps could have been made. VE day was May 8, 1945.
http://thy-weapon-of-war.blogspot.com/2008/11/polish-jew-testifies-before-us-congress.html
DECONSTRUCTING
SIX MILLION HOLO-MYTHS
EXPLORING THE OCCULT ORIGINS
OF CRUCIAL HOLOCAUST DOGMA
http://www.rense.com/general82/decon.pdf
1.) As I noted above, I posted my first response to you (Guy White, Moderate) on June 29th. You responded to me the very same day. It wasn’t two months later.
2.) On June 30th, I responded to your response in “Guy White, Again.”
3.) From June 30th to July 15th, I mentioned you in passing a few times, in the context of several other bloggers. I simply noted that you were a “race realist” like Ian Jobling and Robert Lindsay, but none of those posts were really critical.
4.) On July 15th, I responded (Jews and Politics) to a post a yours about Jews being “particularly bad at politics.” You showed up here in the comments and called me a ” lying piece of garbage or a complete moron.”
5.) On July 17th, I responded to your comments (Guy White, Reloaded) in the Jews and Politics thread.
6.) On July 21st, I altered my WordPress theme, as we were both using Misty Look at the time.
7.) On July 24th, you cited a blog entry of mine (The Negro) in “Why it is impossible to discuss Jews.” I responded (Guy Whine).
Well, now that you called me names, I definitely have seen the light.
Anyway, for anyone else who might be interested: “Six is part of the sexagesimal system but has little symbolic value.”
Its only significance is that it’s the number of work days in a week. The real sacred number is 7. [http://en.allexperts.com/q/Conservative-Judaism-951/2009/3/significance-numbers-6-7.htm]
You’ll have to forgive me if I don’t do my research on conspiracist blogs and prefer to get information directly from the horse’s mouth. Looks like ZOG is about to burst from all the reading he’s done there.
In any event, the proof of the Holocaust is massive and every denialist claim has been responded to.
The idea that Germans and the rest of the world are afraid of the Jews is the real derangement here.
Beyond the fact that Jews don’t have such global power, even if they somehow did, you’d think one of the Chancellor’s of Germany who’s about to drop dead would write a note saying, “hey, we didn’t kill anyone. Them Jew bastards forced us to say so. We were very nice to them.”
Likewise, you’d think that the people in Poland and other countries would say things like, “hey, I remember the Jews during WWII. Nobody bothered them. They got a visa and left. I went to the train station and saw them leave on a regular train. I never once saw them get rounded up, nor did I smell any burning flesh.”
But instead, the people who lived through the Holocaust are the ones who never deny it. You’d think that old Poles and Ukrainians would be most likely to deny something that never happened. But I guess no 90-year-old Pole is brave enough to at least leave a dying note or something. Yes, the Jews will get him in the grave!
Hunter,
Exactly. So on my blog, from June 29 to July 24, I made no references to you. You kept writing about me repeatedly and obsessively. I don’t want to re-read old posts now, but my recollection of them was that they were highly negative. I wouldn’t expect you to say something positive about Auster or Jobling.
I made one comment here because you - to this very day - insist on quoting me incorrectly. If you want to cite me, then why not copy and paste what I just wrote? It’s easier and faster. But no, you re-write what I wrote because you want to make it sound completely different from the way I meant it.
It’s easy fighting strawmen, isn’t it?
But in any event, over 4 weeks, there was no mention of you on my blog and one comment here. You’d think that you’d move on. But no, you obsessed over me, often several times daily until your readers rebelled. Then you took a short break and following that, went back to the All Guy White, All The Time format.
Guy Weiss, nobody is buying your bullshit here. Go peddle it somewhere else. The Hollow Hoax has been exposed as a massive fraud, and thanks to the internet, millions of people are learning about this ever year.
The jig is up, asshole.
typo: “every year”
Guy Weiss,
Which family member of yours is Jewish? I’m still waiting for an answer.
“The Hebrew word for ‘ye shall return’, (TaShuVU), seems to be spelled incorrectly. Grammatically it requires another (vav). It ought to read (TaShUVU). Why is it lacking the letter (vav) which stands for six? [TaShuVU] (without the vav) is a prediction to the Jewish people of ultimate return to their national homeland. [TaShuVU] in numbers adds up to 708: (tav)=400, (shin)=300, (vet)=2, (vav)=6. When we write the year, we ignore the millenia. In 1948 on the secular calendar, we witnessed the miracle of Jewish return to Israel. On the Hebrew calendar it was the year 5708. That was the year predicted by the incomplete word (TaShuVU), you shall return. We did return, lacking 6 - an all important 6 million of our people who perished during the holocaust. Yet the fulfillment of the prediction of return in precisely that year implied by the gematria of (TaShuVU) gives us firm hope that the words of the prophets for Final Redemption will come true as well.”
- Rabbi Benjamin Blech, The Secret of Hebrew Words, pp 214-215.
(The same Rabbi Blech who, along with rabbis Barry Dov Schwartz and Jack Bemporad, “conferred” a “rabbinical blessing” upon Pope John Paul II, in the Apostolic Palace, on 18th January, 2005).
1.) You mentioned me specifically at least three separate times in the Arthur Kemp thread on your blog.
2.) Install a calender on your site. I have to cycle through all your old posts to get to the April 2009 material.
3.) I don’t identify with “conservatism” or “the right.” I prefer to use “White Wing” instead. In recent weeks, I have attacked William Gheen and praised the H.L. Mencken Club.
4.) I have a positive view of Alex Linder, Sam Francis, Jared Taylor, David Duke, Don Black, Greg Johnson, Michael O’Meara, Steve Sailer, Pat Buchanan, Jim Giles, etc. I like Robert Lindsay and link to his site.
5.) The only three people I have consistently criticized are yourself, Auster, and Jobling.
6.) I’ve only been reading you since June 29th. Since then, it has been all Nazis, all the time.
7.) Anyone is free to read the last three or four pages of your blog. You mention me by name over and over again. In fact, this latest exchange was started after you replied to me by name in the Arthur Kemp thread.
8.) I’m not interested in the Holocaust. I didn’t respond to anything you wrote about Soviet communism either.
1.) You just said above that you responded to me on July 26th!
2.) I’ve reread my posts about you in July. I said a few times that you were a “race realist” like Jobling and Lindsay. I linked to something you wrote about the Ricci case, but didn’t really criticize you. I altered my WordPress theme. I responded to your responses to me a few times.
3.) I’ve criticized Auster and Jobling for the same reasons I have criticized you. That’s the pot calling the kettle black though. You have criticized Duke and MacDonald.
4.) I once did a post specifically about your use of straw man arguments.
5.) It is not true that you completely ignored me and I was obsessively attacking you.
I haven’t read your blog beyond what you write about me and occasionally the top story you post that day. But every time I am here, I see something bad about a person or a brand of conservatism like paleos or whoever else.
Since we’ve been debating, the number of Nazi/Jew posts have definitely increased. Wonder why.
But look at the crazy maniac ZOG who can’t stop cursing. Look at his last post. The Jews believe that the Bible predicts all events, down to the killing of Diana. If you saw the History Channel show on it, you already know that. But he thinks it proves something sacred, etc. And even if it’s sacred, which it’s not, so what?
These people are an embarrassment. Not because of the Jews. Because they are insane. I did write about them every now and then prior to your obsession with me. I blocked similar people on my blog, and not just when they obsessed with Jews, but with any similar conspiracy: 9/11, whites are falsifying SAT scores, whites stole Mona Lisa from a museum in Ethiopia, etc.
These are the folks I was talking about when I wrote that we can’t have deranged folks and expect to make any progress.
You aren’t old enough to have a grown daughter, but when you do, will you let her date a guy like that? Presently, would you want your sister dating him? Or do you expect him to snap one day and you wouldn’t want your family around when he does?
Does he seem alright to you? Does he seem like a proper speaker for any movement or business? Would you hire him as your front desk person to greet your customers/clients?
The root of anti-Semitism is the argument that White Americans, racially and culturally speaking, would be better off without the Jews.
Keep spinning your wheel, Guy Weiss. It won’t do you any good.
Hunter,
How’s this: you never mention me again and I won’t mention you again. You can write whatever you want on your blog and I will write whatever I want on mine.
We are both obscure bloggers. Despite the feeling that you may have that you are someone important because you have a couple hundred visitors reading your blog, you just aren’t, and neither am I.
Your readers agreed with you before they ever came to your blog. Mine agreed with me before they ever came to mine. Nobody’s opinion is really being changed. Maybe a dozen people can change their mind, but all of whom are, again, not important.
So why the personal crusade against me? Just stop. You’ll move on and I will move on. If you want to expel the Jews, fine. If I want to give all of them a Nobel Prize, what’s it to you? Do you really think anything will change because of what’s written on either of our blogs?
Don’t write about me. Don’t link to me. Don’t come to my blog. And I will do the same for you.
Deal?
“wheels”
The Sacred Nature of Six Million in the Judaic Religion
Why Six Million Holocaust Victims Cannot be Questioned
Michael Fishwick
11th February 2009
“After the destruction of the Temple (70 AD), the rabbinic exegesis has replaced faith in the Mosaic Messiah with that of the “collective messiah”, which is the Jewish people. Christianity can not accept this Jewish sacralization of the Holocaust without the denial of its identity and faith. The only Holocaust is the sacrifice of Christ. To accept another “holocaust” of salvation and ‘meta-historical act’ next to that of Jesus would be an act of apostasy. Unfortunately, the new Judaic theology of the council, and after the council, has taken hold of progressive Catholics. We hope and pray that it does not pollute Tradition. It is therefore a duty to warn the faithful shepherds.”
- Don Curzio Nitoglia, translated from Il Caso Williamson, 28th January, 2009.
Introduction
Some commentary on the statement of Fr. Nitoglia may be instructive in regard to understanding why the figure of ‘Six Million Holocaust’ victims is sacred to the Jews.
The “unquestionable” number of Six Million Jewish holocaust victims is not based upon documented historic fact, nor even particularly upon demographic estimation, but above all is a mystical number that relates in a fundamental manner to the religious belief system of Judaism.
The New York based Museum of Jewish Heritage, for example, in regard to “the memory of the six million Jews who perished.” reveals that: “Zachor, to remember, is a sacred Jewish obligation.” (my bold emphasis).
Examples of religious phraseology in regard to Six Million Jewish victims of The Holocaust are plentiful and easily found by use of simple internet searches.
On a purely natural level a Christian can understand that Jews might consider the suffering and death of Jewish victims of the Shoah (catastrophe) to be ‘Kiddush Hashem’ - ‘martyrs’. Further investigation using the Jewish chabad.org Knowledge Base reveals that, for Jews, the concept of ‘Kiddush Hashem’ has a much deeper meaning in that it is a “sanctification of G-d’s Name.”
What is not so commonly realised, or understood, by Christians is how the Six Million figure relates integrally to the occult teachings that the Jewish religion is based upon.
Before proceeding further it will be necessary to distinguish between two commonly used words that are often used interchangeably with resulting obfuscation of the subject.
‘Shoah’ is an anglicized spelling of a Hebrew word that means ‘catastrophe’ or ‘calamity’. That millions of Jewish people suffered horrific calamity involving widespread persecution and many deaths during World War Two is not in dispute.
Holocaust, by contrast, is a word of Greek origin meaning ‘burnt whole’ and is defined in the dictionary as “a sacrificial offering that is consumed entirely by flames”. The anglicised Hebrew word for ‘burnt offering’ or ‘burnt sacrifice’ is ‘Olah’ (pronounced ‘o-law’). It derives from the Hebrew word for ‘elevation’. That the corpses of many thousands of Jews (and others) were burnt in crematoriums in Nazi concentration camps after suffering death from typhus and other disease is not at issue either.
What is disputed is the claim that Six Million Jews were murdered by cyanide gas in purpose built homocidal gas chambers in Nazi concentration camps.
If it is true that Jews, as Jews, collectively suffered genocidal extermination and cremation in concentration camps, then ‘holocaust’ is indeed a valid historic, as well as Judaic religious, description. If it is not true, then the description of ‘holocaust’, as well as the “sacred” figure of Six Million, belongs entirely to Jewish religious mythology and must be opposed by Catholics both as a matter of historical truth and religious truth.
The enormous amount of data from divers fields of research that indicates very strongly that homicidal gas chambers did not exist in Nazi concentration camps is not the purpose of this study, and will not be summarised here. Rather, the purpose of the study is to reveal, largely from Jewish sources, that the fabled ‘Six Million’ is a religious mantra recited by Jews as an integral practise of the Jewish religion.
The Sacred Six Million
The Jewish religion is based upon:
1) ‘Written Torah’ (’Tanakh’) which consists of books of the Old Testament;
2) ‘Oral Torah’ (’Mishnah’) which Jews believe God taught to Moses and was handed down orally through the generations until being compiled in book form in the second century;
3) later rabbinical commentaries on ‘Mishnah’ called ‘Gemara’ which were compiled together with ‘Mishnah’ in the 5th century and became known collectively as ‘Talmud’;
4) ‘Midrashim’ which are anecdotal stories expanding upon written or oral ‘Torah’;
5) and ‘Kabbalah’ which is the mystical teaching of Judaism, the primary body of which is known as ‘Zohar’.
A fundamental constituent of Jewish mystical gnosis is the practice of ‘Gematria’, a type of numerology that assigns numerical value to the characters of the Hebrew alphabet. It involves the calculation of numerical equivalence and relationship between letters, words and phrases in order to find mystical insights and hidden teaching that Jews believe God planted into ‘Torah’. Rabbi Harav Yitzchak Ginsburgh explains that: “Since the world was created through God’s ’speech’, each letter represents a different creative force.”
Certain letters, and the corresponding numerical value, are considered in Judaism to have greater mystical power than others because of the frequency with which they are found in ‘Torah’. One such value, the expression of which holds a predominant power in the Jewish psyche, is the Hebrew letter ‘vav’ which has a numerical value of six. As well as its obvious relationship to the six days of creation and the Jewish sabbath Rabbi Harav Yitzchak Ginsburgh reveals much of its esoteric connotation in his book The Alef-Beit: Jewish Thought Revealed Through the Hebrew Letters. For example, one learns that: “the consummate structure of six (as in the form of the Magen David [Star of David], the outer area of whose six ‘wings’ equals, and therefore folds onto, the area of its inner hexagon), reflected by the six orders of the Mishnah, finds its source in the dimensions of the Tablets given to Moses at Sinai. They were cubes measuring six handbreadths in each direction.” A cube has six faces, of course.
The superstitious ‘power’ of ’six’ in the Jewish mind can be found, for example, in the fact that the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington D.C. was purposely designed so that the display floors of photographs and artifacts of the Permanent Exhibition cover a space of 36,000 square feet. In ‘Gematria’ it is understood that this represents six thousand multiplied by six thousand. At the end of the tour the visitor enters the six thousand square foot Hall of Remembrance, which has six sides symbolising the six-pointed Star of David, and the six ‘extermination’ camps where ‘Six Million’ Jews were slaughtered. One can also find there a collection of six thousand children’s hand-painted tiles. Yaffa Sonenson, a member of the U.S. Holocaust Commission donated, according to a sympathetic review of the museum penned by Barbara Beckwith for the online St. Anthony Messenger, a collection of six thousand photographs.
We learn from the spirituality section of chabad.org in its “Letters of Light - Vav” that: “Six also represents completion, because something that is surrounded on all six sides-north, south, east, west, above and below-is complete. Similarly we find that when the Jewish people left the land of Egypt, G-d surrounded them with six Clouds of Glory… The number six also signifies the six hundred thousand Jewish men aged 20-60 who left the land of Egypt. It additionally represents the Torah… There are six hundred thousand letters of the Torah, and if one letter of the Torah is missing or broken or cracked, G-d forbid, the entire Torah scroll is declared not kosher-unfit to be read. Similarly, if one Jew strays from the path, or is missing or defiled, the entire Jewish nation is likewise lacking or defiled. We are rendered incomplete… We find another instance of ’six’ when the Jewish people were in Egypt and oppressed with backbreaking work. Pharaoh devised many plots against the Jewish people to keep them from multiplying. Yet the Jews continued to propagate at an unbelievable rate. Indeed, the Torah tells us that the Jewish women bore six children at one time… Thus the vav teaches us the monumental effect we have on the world by being connected on high and bringing the Torah down to earth in our thoughts, speech and actions.”
Rabbi Ginsburgh reveals that the secret of the word ‘truth’ resides in the “triangle of six” and, for that reason, the Hebrew letter ‘vav’ is known as “the letter of truth”, its numerical value ’six’ being “the power which links together the souls of Israel.” The triangle of six instantly reminds one again of the six-pointed Star of David that is composed of triangles. It also brings to mind the fact that a triangle consists of three sides or three points. Three points consisting of six? 666?
Judaism teaches that God created six hundred thousand Jewish souls and these souls, according to the rabbis, correspond to the six hundred thousand letters in the written ‘Torah’. In a translated text entitled “600,000 Souls, 600,000 Letters” Rabbi Rabbeinu Yaakov Abuchatzeira reveals that:
“The word ‘Israel’ can be read as an acronym for ‘Yesh Shishim Ribo Otiot LaTorah’, meaning: ‘There are six hundred thousand letters in the Torah’. Therefore, Israel did not leave Egypt until there were six hundred thousand of them, in order for each soul to be ’supported’ by one letter in the Torah, as we have written in a number of places… Since the name ‘Israel’ alludes to the fact that the number of letters in the Torah corresponds to the number of souls, it follows that when the Jewish People come to count their souls [take a census], the accuser comes and accuses them saying, ‘Master of the universe, didn’t Israel only reach this size population in order to match the number of letters in the Torah which are hinted at in their name? And now they are negligent in [the Torah]!’ This becomes the substance of the accusation. Furthermore, the word ‘negef’, meaning ‘a scourge’, has the same numerological value as ‘Samael’, the Angel of Destruction, short two. (’Negef’ equals 133, while ‘Samael’ equals 131.) The missing two allude to the two Torahs (Oral and Written). When Israel are lax in the two Torahs, two powers are added to those of the forces of evil, and it becomes ‘negef’, a scourge, and afflicts them, G-d forbid.”
Rabbi Zev Reichman, in a partly published online book named Chassidus, confirms the rabbinical teaching of ’six hundred thousand souls, six hundred thousand letters’. In footnote, 19, of ‘Lesson Six, The Body Can Complement the Soul’, the rabbi states plainly that Jewish souls are “pieces of the Divine”, part of God Himself.
“The Zohar teaches that God, Torah, and Israel are one. In truth, God clothed himself in the thoughts and words of Torah, and Jewish souls are pieces of the Divine as well; thus Torah, Israel and God are linked in an intrinsic manner. Rabbi Levi Yitzchok of Berditchev (1740-1810) explained a Scriptural ambiguity with this principle.
‘As God commanded Moses, he counted them (the Jews) in the Sinai desert.’ (Numbers 1:19) One can ask, it should have written, ‘He counted them in the Sinai desert as God commanded Moses?’ Behold, God gave the Torah to the Jewish people, and the souls of Jews are the essence of the Torah, for there are 600,000 Jewish souls and 600,000 letters in the Torah scroll. In fact, the name ‘Yisrael’, Israel, is an acronym for ‘Yesh shsishim ribo otiyot latorah’, there are 600,000 letters to the Torah. Therefore, Jews are the Torah, for each Jew is a different letter in the Torah. When Moses counted the Jews he was learning Torah. This is why the verse changed its usual formulation to hint ‘As God commanded Moses he counted the people,’ like the Torah that God commanded Moses was the (experience of) counting of the nation.’ (Kedushas Levi parshas Bamidbar s.v. Caasher) .”
Examples of the Kabbalistic religious use of numbers relating to ‘vav’, “the power that links together the souls of Israel”, and especially of ’six hundred thousand’ abound virtually everywhere one cares to look and it becomes obvious that ’six’ is related in a very special manner to the Jewish concepts of ‘kiddush hashem’ and ‘olah’, of holocaust. ‘Kiddush hashem’ ,one will remember, means to the Jew ‘martyrdom’ and the “sanctification of G-d’s Name”. One will also remember that the Jewish religion teaches that Jewish souls are themselves “pieces of the Divine”. Therefore one begins to understand that in the Jewish religion the concept of ‘martyrdom’ and “sanctification of G-d’s Name” is in fact a collective ’sanctification’ of the Jewish people, of the six hundred thousand souls.
The concept of ‘olah’ is described by Rabbi Harav Yitzchak Ginsburgh’s teaching, thus: “The Sages reply that the olah is first in the Torah recitation. However, in the order of sacrifice, the chatat precedes the olah. According to Kabbalah and Chassidut, the recitation reflects a drawing down of the Supernal Infinite Light from above to below — as a person calls to his friend to come to him, or as a small child calls to his father to come and join him. In contrast, the actual sacrifice reflects an act of spiritual elevation from below to above — the secret of the sacrifice ascends to the secret of the Infinite One.”
Thus ‘olah’, ‘holocaust’, involves a religious mantra of recitation aimed at “a drawing down of the Supernatural Infinite light from above to below”
As a side note, one may ask, how can it be that only six hundred thousand Jewish souls exist when it is evident that many millions of Jews have existed in time?
The rabbinical explanation appears to be that the 600,000 souls are “root souls” and that all other Jewish souls are “offshoots”, intrinsically connected and, perhaps, somehow, generated from them.
Some examples of the sacred connection that exists in the Jewish religion between religious recitation of the mantra of ‘Six’ (”the power that links together the souls of Israel”), the 600,000 Jewish souls, ‘martyrdom - Divine sanctification’ that draws down “Supernatural Infinite light from above to below” and holocaust, may be instructive. The religious objective of this ‘divine’ mantra is obviously meant to culminate in the eventual arrival of the long-awaited Jewish ‘Messiah’:
70 AD: Roman historian Cornelius Tacitus on the destruction of Jerusalem, the Temple, and the slaughter of Jews - “We are told that the number of the besieged, old and young, men and women, amounted to 600,000.”
135 AD: Roman historian Cassius Dio is told and records that 600,000 Jews are slaughtered when Rome finally crushes the Bar Kokhba rebellion.
18th century: Ukrainian pogrom where “reliable accounts” record that 60,000 Jews were slaughtered by Gaidamak Cossacks according to the Jewish People’s Relief Commitee Report of 1921, mentioned in The Slaughter of the Jews in the Ukraine in 1919, by Elias Heifetz.
1880: The New York Times editorial of 27th February states that: “The war, which has for some time raged in Germany between the natives and the Jews, seems rather to increase than diminish in intensity… The charge is made that of the 600,000 Israelites in the empire, hardly any engage in agricultural or mercantile pursuits; but that they control trade, rule the money markets, and are eating up the country with their avarice and usury.”
1900: The New York Times of 11th June reports extracts from an address given by Rabbi Stephen Samuel Wise, founder of the Federation of American Zionists, that “there are 6,000,000 [Six Million] living, bleeding, suffering arguments in favour of Zionism.”
1916: The American Jewish Committee publishes a book entitled ‘The Jews in the Eastern War Zone’ in which it is claimed that eastern Europe is “a kind of prison with six million inmates, guarded by an army of corrupt and brutal jailers.”
1917-1920: 60,000 Jews were murdered in pogroms in Poland and Russia according to the Jewish authors of The Jew in the Modern World.
1918: The New York Times of October 18th carries a full page advertisement from the Joint Distribution Committee of the American Funds for Jewish War Sufferers to collect one hundred million dollars to “Rebuild Jewry” and states that “6,000,000 Jews Need Help” (Six Million).
1919: The American Hebrew of 31st October carries an article entitled ‘The Crucifixion of the Jews Must Stop!’ It claims that “Six million men and women are dying” in what it describes as a “threatened holocaust.” “The war is over for everyone but the Jew. The knife is still at his throat and an unreasoning and unreasonable century-old lust for Jewish blood opens his veins”.
1936: Chaim Weizmann, president of the World Zionist Organization, testifies in front of the Peel Commission, on November 25th, that: “It is no exaggeration to say that six million Jews are sentenced to be imprisoned in this part of the world, where they are unwanted, and for whom the countries are divided into those, where they are unwanted, and those, where they are not admitted.”
1937: Chaim Weizmann reports to the Zionist Congress of London that “the hopes of Europe’s six million Jews are centred on emmigration” according to the document “Holocaust Victims Accuse” published by anti-Zionist Jews.
1943: The New York Times of 2nd March reports, on page 4, Rabbi Joseph Hertz, Chief Rabbi of the British Empire, stating that “appalling is the fact that those who proclaim the Four Freedoms have so far done very little to even secure the freedom to live for 6,000,000 [Six Million] of their Jewish fellow men by readiness to rescue those who might still escape Nazi torture and butchery.”
1946: The Jewish Black Book Committee, a venture between the Soviet Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee (JAC) and US Jewish organisations publishes The Black Book. It states that “Four million Jews - about two-thirds of the six million who perished in Europe at the hand of the Nazis - were murdered at Oswiecim [Auschwitz] and its subsidiary camps.”
1948: Rabbi Menachem Kasher, in the introduction to Kol HaTor in HaTekufah HaGedolah, reports a statistic relating to the year of the establishment of the Zionist State. He states that 1948 was the first year in centuries that there were 600,000 Jews living in ‘Eretz Yisrael’.
1948: 600,000 Jews living in Arab countries were forced to flee from surrounding Arab lands to the newly established Israeli State claim the Children of Jewish Holocaust Survivors Los Angeles organization and their political director Omri Ceren, in a press release dated 7th July, 2008.
1948: 600,000 Holocaust survivors moved to Israel during the early years of the State, reports Judy Siegel-Itzkovich for the Jewish Weekly News of northern California, in a story entitled Holocaust Survivors; Handle with Care, on 21st March, 2008.
1967: Rabbi Menachem Kasher, in the introduction to Kol HaTor in HaTekufah HaGedolah, reports a statistic relating to the year of the Six Day War. He states that 1967 was the first year in centuries that there were 600,000 Jewish males above the age of 20 living in ‘Eretz Yisrael’.
1999: The Independent reveals in a story of 4th March entitled Holocaust Trial Opens in Croatia that The Encyclopedia of the Holocaust states that 600,000 were killed at the Jasenovac concentration camp but that Croatian historians think 35,000 people died.
2000: CBC News in Canada reports on 27th July that “a judge in the United States has approved the settlement offer between Swiss banks and 600,000 survivors of the Holocaust.”
2004: Hungary’s first Holocaust Museum opens in Budapest on the 60th anniversary of Hungarian Jews being sent to concentration camps. 60,000 names have been inscribed on the inside face of the wall surrounding the museum in order to remember 600,000 Hungarian Jewish victims.
2004: A memorial for the “600,000 Jews who were killed in gas chambers” at the Belzec “death camp” in Poland is solemnly opened on the 3rd June as a joint project of the American Jewish Committee and the Warsaw-based Council for the Protection of the Memory of Combat and Martyrdom.
2005: The Yad Vashem Holocaust Museum in Jerusalem announces on October 10th the figure of 600,000 vistors in the six months since the opening of its new Museum Complex.
2006: A New America Media report of 14th November entitled Israel Encourages Citizens to Return to Homeland, written by Stacey Palevsky, states that “More than 600,000 Israeli’s live elsewhere. And Israel wants them back… About 6,000 return each year.” The report further reveals that the Israeli Minister of Immigration Absorption, Ze’ev Boim, was visiting as “part of the six-city campaign”.
2007: Sidney Zabludoff tells the US House Committee on International Relations: Subcommittee on Europe and Emerging Threats, on 3rd October that “Currently there are approximately 600,000 Holocaust survivors worldwide.”
2008: A libel case heard at Jerusalem District Court, initiated by the Claims Conference, reveals that 600,000 Holocaust survivors worldwide have received over $50 billion.
2008: German Culture Minister, Bernd Numann, and the chief of the German Foundation for Remembrance, Responsibility and Future, Martin Salm, present to the Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial site in Jerusalem a completed list of the 600,000 German Jewish population between 1933 and 1945.
Should any further consideration be necessary to determine the ’sacred’ relationship between the Six Hundred Thousand Jewish Souls and The Six Million it is only necessary to remember that ’six’ is the number of “truth” and represents “completion”. It is “the power that links together the souls of Israel” of which there are 600,000. When multiplied by ten we arrive at Six Million.
The number ‘ten’ in the Jewish religion relates to the ‘Sefirot’ (enumerations) by which, Jews believe, God manifests Himself in the physical and metaphysical planes. ‘Ten’ is believed by Jews to be the number of “divine perfection”. Therefore, the 600,000 souls of Israel, which are “pieces of the Divine”, when multiplied by ‘divine perfection’ come to Six Million.
“The Hebrew word for ‘ye shall return’, (TaShuVU), seems to be spelled incorrectly. Grammatically it requires another (vav). It ought to read (TaShUVU). Why is it lacking the letter (vav) which stands for six? [TaShuVU] (without the vav) is a prediction to the Jewish people of ultimate return to their national homeland. [TaShuVU] in numbers adds up to 708: (tav)=400, (shin)=300, (vet)=2, (vav)=6. When we write the year, we ignore the millenia. In 1948 on the secular calendar, we witnessed the miracle of Jewish return to Israel. On the Hebrew calendar it was the year 5708. That was the year predicted by the incomplete word (TaShuVU), you shall return. We did return, lacking 6 - an all important 6 million of our people who perished during the holocaust. Yet the fulfillment of the prediction of return in precisely that year implied by the gematria of (TaShuVU) gives us firm hope that the words of the prophets for Final Redemption will come true as well.”
- Rabbi Benjamin Blech, The Secret of Hebrew Words, pp 214-215.
(The same Rabbi Blech who, along with rabbis Barry Dov Schwartz and Jack Bemporad, “conferred” a “rabbinical blessing” upon Pope John Paul II, in the Apostolic Palace, on 18th January, 2005).
You’re probably confusing me with Captainchaos. I’ve always had mixed views about the paleos. I dislike Thomas Fleming, John Zmirak, and Justin Raimondo - all of whom have attacked racialists. I like Sam Francis, Pat Buchanan, Peter Brimelow, and Paul Gottfried. I said positive things about the paleos in the H.L. Mencken Club thread.
Maybe. I really haven’t really paid that much attention to you beyond what you wrote about me.
You aren’t terrible on most issues. Even on the Jews, I haven’t been in that much disagreement with you other than a forcible expulsion. I do think that your comments section is like the bathroom wall of an insane asylum.
What you think are mild comments about other bloggers are usually full-frontal assaults. You need to chill out.
I have no reason to continue arguing with you. I have better things to do than worry about you and you should as well.
How about we just go our separate ways. If you aren’t obsessed with me, it should be real easy for you.
I’m not on a “personal crusade” against you. At least half the time that I have written about you it is because you have mentioned me or singled me out for criticism on your blog. Auster and Jobling have the same material, but they never reply to anything I have to say.
If you don’t want me to write about you, I suggest you try returning to your original focus. Stop being an apologist for the Jews. Call off your crusade against anti-Semites. You’re getting criticized because you’re trying to be more philo-Semitic than Abe Foxman.
I don’t mind your debunking of kooky, ludicrous claims about Jewish power. I’ve never picked a fight with you about any of these old chestnuts. I also don’t write about subjects which are of no interest to me like the Holocaust, Spanish Inquisition, Soviet communism, etc.
I think David Kelsey is fair. Do you see me attacking him all the time? No, you don’t. OneSTDV is another HBD blogger. Do you see me attacking him all the time? No, you don’t. Have you ever seen me attack Richard Hoste? No, you haven’t.
“If you don’t want me to write about you, I suggest you try returning to your original focus. Stop being an apologist for the Jews. Call off your crusade against anti-Semites.”
I will write whatever I want on my blog. You aren’t going to dictate to me what I can and cannot say. You are welcome to run your blog as you please, but you can’t run mine.
I would agree with one thing you said: I shouldn’t have responded to your original post. You are like an attention-hungry little child who got a response and then did everything to provoke another one.
My position on the Jewish Question is that White Americans would be better off (racially and culturally speaking) without Jewish influence in our society. Thus, I think American Jews should immigrate to Israel.
I see no reason why Jews cannot contribute to the scientific and technological progress of humanity from abroad. You’ve already made a lot of hay over Israelis in this respect.
Guy White forgets that he initiated this whole exchange. See #21.
If you’re going to write nonsense about the Jews, you can expect a response. If you stick to debunking kooky, unfounded, absurd claims about the Jews, I will ignore you.
I have no problem with encouraging Jews to move to Israel with some kind of benefits package, just as I would support the same for blacks and Moslems. I do have a problem with ethnic cleansing of anyone.
Again, care to end the feud? Why is it so important for you to change my mind?
1.) I don’t think you will change your mind.
2.) If you would stick to making reasonable points about Jews (ex. they aren’t the sole cause of America’s racial decline), I wouldn’t criticize you.
3.) I’m not feuding with you. If you want me to stop posting about you, all you have to do is stop saying outrageous, unfounded, or unbelievable things.
4.) I said above that David Kelsey is fair. I also read his blog, but rarely find anything objectionable.
Ok, well, you have fun here. I hope you realize just what you sound like with your statements about you being here to save the day from an obscure blogger like myself.
See you tomorrow.
And the blog wars between Guy Blight and Hunter continue. Guy feels it’s his mission to purge the white nationalist movement of “anti-semites”. The traditional meaning connotes an irrational hatred of Jews but now the Jews use this label to smear their perceived enemies and Guy is most willing to oblige them.
Someone needs to educate Guy that 44 million gentiles died in WWII which included those burned and incinerated by firebombs, dismembered by fragmentation bombs, torture, starvation, slave labor camps and other wonderful ways to meet one’s demise. These victims are no less dead than the alleged 6 million Jews that were to have perished in gas ovens. Approximately 7-10 million Ukrainians died in the Soviet engineered famine of the early 1930’s but somehow they are less important than the muy importante Jews. Any historian can quibble about the number of Ukrainian deaths without risk of censure or smear yet nobody is allowed to dare question any aspect of WWII concerning Jewish suffering.
People far more informed and credible than Guy White have commented about the scope of Jewish control over our political system. Pat Buchanan, former Congressmen Paul Findlay, Paul McCloskey and Ernest Hollings are just the tip of the iceberg.
Guy, you think this blog is all about you because you only pay attention to the parts where you’re mentioned. Your claim that HW is obsessed with you only reflects your own obsession with yourself.
Why is it so difficult for you to see (or at least admit) that Whites and jews are largely distinct groups with at least partially distinct interests, and that when there’s a conflict between White and jewish interests you are criticized by pro-Whites because you side with jews?
I am curious what you think China or the Chinese have to do with how or how many jews were killed during WWII or why questioning these things merits prosecution and imprisonment anywhere. Could you paste or link a fleshed out version of your argument?
@GW,
If a combatant is caught out of uniform, he is subject to summary execution, according to the customs of war. Why is that - and what does it have to do with Jewish tactics in the invasion of other cultures as civilians?
Guy White
As far as your readers go, OldRight is a good example. He claims that 6 million Jews suddenly disappeared from Europe because they went to the US and Israel. To this day, Israel doesn’t have 6 million Jews. In fact, the number of Ashkenazi (European) Jews is 3 million TODAY. In 1945, there were fewer than half a million of them. Fewer than 100,000 of them arrived during the war. The same is true in the US: only about 100,000 arrived during the war. That’s 200,000 for Israel and the US, and no other country took a significant number (more than a few thousand) of Jews. What about the rest?
Of course jews claim that no other nations took in the jews, but they claim many other things which are known to be untrue.
What requires less of a leap of faith, to believe that the Nazis completely vaporized almost eleven million people or that three million jews emigrated to friendlier nations after being subjected to severe persecution in Poland? Persecution that began long before the Nazis invaded, by the way.
I did look at the jew approved history of Poland on Wikipedia and even that admits that about 300,000 Polish jews emigrated to the Soviet Union.
The emigration theory fits with the presence of hordes of “Holocaust survivors” all over the world, and the ease with which illegal immigrants can melt into the US. The Holocaust theory has six million missing jewish bodies to explain, as well as the missing bodies of the less emphasized four to six million additional “miscellaneous” victims.
I note in passing that you neither confirmed nor denied that you have a jewish spouse, girlfriend or relatives.
You may not want to admit it to your audience, but you know that the Holocaust happened more or less as history says it did with 4-6 million people who were killed by various means that included gassing, shooting, starvation and insanitary conditions caused by the Germans.
It’s impossible to know that. You weren’t there. The best you can have is an informed opinion. Sorry.
Poland lost 90% of its Jews. These 3 million Polish Jews failed to appear anywhere else.
Maybe, maybe not. You have no way of knowing this. Jews commonly lie about their identity. How many Polish Jews were like the Bilbruecks from Vienna who changed their name to Thomason (”It’s an English name”) and wound up posing as gentiles in Shreveport?
You don’t — and you can’t — know.
Friedrich,
Firstly, liberalism is the regnant order. The very air we breath is infused its assumptions. No one’s being asked to buy into these assumptions; they’re taken for granted. So, no, the average liberal isn’t thinking about the possibility of liberalism going too far; in general, he isn’t thinking much at all.
Secondly, come off it, there are plenty of “liberals” concerned about totalitarianist tendencies. If you’re not seeing it it’s probably because you’re not looking.
There are obviously degrees of racial infeeling. My point was that those who tend to describe themselves as Nazis have very, very intense racial infeelings and these feelings tend to be accompanied by an intense revulsion for other kinds as well as for the inferior members of one’s own kind. One doesn’t need to go all the way to Auschwitz before he balks at that sort of thing. (And please, as if I’d ever bring up “Auschwitz.” My view on that is that there is every reason to believe that “nazi gassings” is a load of jew bullshit.)
guy white isnt jewish. hes catholic italian whos prejudiced against other europeans. he doesnt care so much about southern europeans. hes very chauvinistic when it comes to northwest europeans. i think hes pissed off that “nordicists” don’t see italians as “white enough”. but it goes way past that. he may be prowhite but hes also an italian chauvinist who wants to stick it to the nordics. when it comes to guy white and jews, it’s not all about the jews.